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Dobby, you mentioned last week that you didn't really know much about the transwomen in women's sport issue.
Have a look at these couple of videos.
The first one is a swimmer called Lia Thomas who was Will Thomas up until two years ago talking about how fair the new IOC guidelines are. Note what they say about advantages, or the lack of.
The next video is that athlete competing at the top level of Penn state.
Ignore the author of the tweet as he's a cunt, a good example of 'don't shoot the messenger'
I can't understand why this is not only defended but sanctioned as totally acceptable at the highest levels of sport. Madness.
I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Fairly disgraceful that you can go into a offie or supermarket today and buy 24 cans for €15 and in 3 or 4 days they will be €40 minimum. I don't really drink at home but by god if i do then i don't want to be screwed like that.
As another poster mentioned, it's the fact that the money is going into the manufacturer/supermarkets hands that's the real kicker.
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Mine the only house to regularly buy slabs of Guinness which get drank over the course of the next 4/6 weeks?
24 cans for €40 is now the min we'll be paying, having regularly been able to get them for sub €30.
Almost never buy less than a 12 pack anyway, it's going in the boot of the car so bigger the better.Last edited by Emmet; 31-12-21, 12:40.
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Originally posted by ArmaniJeans View Post
Sounds like you are suggesting a ban on multi-buy discounting of alcohol. That would have been perfectly sensible and I doubt there would have been much argument.
'1 can for €1.50, 24 cans for €20' always seemed dodgy to me. Force the retailer to find a price point at which they are happy to sell to you regardless of whether you are buying 4 or 50.
If they try to get around it by making the 24 packs a slightly different size (499ml or something) then slap 'em with a 'packs must be always be allowed to be split open at unit price' rule.
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Originally posted by Lazare View PostDobby, you mentioned last week that you didn't really know much about the transwomen in women's sport issue.
Have a look at these couple of videos.
The first one is a swimmer called Lia Thomas who was Will Thomas up until two years ago talking about how fair the new IOC guidelines are. Note what they say about advantages, or the lack of.
The next video is that athlete competing at the top level of Penn state.
Ignore the author of the tweet as he's a cunt, a good example of 'don't shoot the messenger'
I can't understand why this is not only defended but sanctioned as totally acceptable at the highest levels of sport. Madness.
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It is kind of bizarre just how cheap booze has gotten over the years though. When I first bought cans back in 1985, a can of Heineken was £1.16 in the offie in Terenure that would serve 15 year olds. I reckon that would be around €4 a can when inflation is taken into account. Could still afford to buy enough to get locked, puke all over a friends bathroom, and crash my bike on the way home afterwards.Gone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.
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Originally posted by Degag View PostFairly disgraceful that you can go into a offie or supermarket today and buy 24 cans for €15 and in 3 or 4 days they will be €40 minimum. I don't really drink at home but by god if i do then i don't want to be screwed like that.
As another poster mentioned, it's the fact that the money is going into the manufacturer/supermarkets hands that's the real kicker.
IPB Booze Cruise + home game in the bar?"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by dobby View Post
Jaysus that's insane. Laughable at yer mans comment saying people can compete without feeling uncomfortable and he looks extremely uncomfortable and like he doesnt even believe what he is saying for the entire clip. If the IOC press ahead with that, itll make a mockery of the games surely?
One of the first out of the blocks in favour of it was British Kickboxing.
World Rugby apparently has said no and is rightly prioritising safety and fairness over inclusion.
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Originally posted by Lazare View PostDobby, you mentioned last week that you didn't really know much about the transwomen in women's sport issue.
Have a look at these couple of videos.
The first one is a swimmer called Lia Thomas who was Will Thomas up until two years ago talking about how fair the new IOC guidelines are. Note what they say about advantages, or the lack of.
The next video is that athlete competing at the top level of Penn state.
Ignore the author of the tweet as he's a cunt, a good example of 'don't shoot the messenger'
I can't understand why this is not only defended but sanctioned as totally acceptable at the highest levels of sport. Madness.
I haven't enough interest in sports that are impacted by this issue to have an real opinion one way or another but seems to be a complex enough issue, you can either regulate it heavily or not, but think these cases are in the minority so most people won't care but the problem is setting a precedent so need to clamp down on the issue or it will be open to abuse in the future. A tricky issue.No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity, but I know none, therefore am no beast.
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Originally posted by Emmet View Post
Bulk buy discounts are totally standard across almost all products, with lots of good reason!
But I'm not sure what point you are making - i'm just pointing out that stopping it would have been a different (and better imo) way to fulfil Hitch's idea of encouraging people to buy 8 units rather than 24.
Also being able to sell at any price you want is also standard across almost all products - except alcohol from Tuesday.
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Originally posted by pokerhand View Post
I thought you were in favour, equal rights and all that jazz, but now it sound like you are against it?
I haven't enough interest in sports that are impacted by this issue to have an real opinion one way or another but seems to be a complex enough issue, you can either regulate it heavily or not, but think these cases are in the minority so most people won't care but the problem is setting a precedent so need to clamp down on the issue or it will be open to abuse in the future. A tricky issue.
Categorisation in sport is important, age categories, weight categories and sex categories. They exist to promote fairness and safety. They're by their nature exclusionary.
Yes there's rarity right now, but you're right, precedents are being set that could see the erosion of fairness in women's sport.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Well I’m not just sure, I’m omicron positive.
Mile enough symptoms, achey as balls the first day back and spine and legs and then fever dreams two days. The worst part of it all though is the wicked sore throat.
Definitely the worst sore throat I’ve ever had. Seems to be persisting too.
Hoping I’m out the major piece of it now though as wasn’t super feverish last night.This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
All efforts were made to make this thought original but with the abundance of thoughts in the world the originality of this thought cannot be guaranteed.
The author is not liable for any issue arising from the platitudinous nature of this post.
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Originally posted by Theresa View PostWell I’m not just sure, I’m omicron positive.
Mile enough symptoms, achey as balls the first day back and spine and legs and then fever dreams two days. The worst part of it all though is the wicked sore throat.
Definitely the worst sore throat I’ve ever had. Seems to be persisting too.
Hoping I’m out the major piece of it now though as wasn’t super feverish last night.
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Originally posted by Theresa View PostWell I’m not just sure, I’m omicron positive.
Mile enough symptoms, achey as balls the first day back and spine and legs and then fever dreams two days. The worst part of it all though is the wicked sore throat.
Definitely the worst sore throat I’ve ever had. Seems to be persisting too.
Hoping I’m out the major piece of it now though as wasn’t super feverish last night.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Friend of mine buried his 12 week old baby today who died Stephens Day.
The funeral today and the parlour yesterday was something I don't think I could endure if it was the missus and I in their place.
Makes any problems I have seem miniscule in comparisonPeople say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Just noticed the BBV title
The wedding went ahead and we couldn't of asked for a better day it was absolutely fantastic. Don't think I've ever been as tired after it all and I was wiped out for the couple days after it.
The custom made Louis Copeland suit was awesome but the wifey looked utterly beautiful.
Hope y'all had a wonderful Christmas and best wishes for the New Year.
Look forward to hearing all the stories from the BBV I've missed over the last while."you raise, i kill you" El Tren :{)
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Originally posted by Lazare View Post
You see, in this case there's competing rights. You can't be for one without being against the other. I think inclusion is vitally important in wider society for trans people, and fully support it. In this case though fairness is sacrificed. Fairness and safety in other cases.
Categorisation in sport is important, age categories, weight categories and sex categories. They exist to promote fairness and safety. They're by their nature exclusionary.
Yes there's rarity right now, but you're right, precedents are being set that could see the erosion of fairness in women's sport.
There isn't really a one stop solution to dividing people amongst sports and I'm sure sex is more/less important in each, just like height, lactic acid creation, lung size, how well funded your states steroid program is etc but any chosen criteria at all has downsides.
I'm sure if there was some domination problem in women's sports rules would just be changed, thus far trans women have been allowed compete in the Olympics for 15 years, only one has and didn't even get a medal. They've competed at school levels for decades too and there has been no domination, mostly not even medaling either. If there was some influx of people competing and winning that were trans I'm sure it would be seen as a problem and guidelines adjusted.
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Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostI guess sport by it's nature is unfair, no matter what divides have been or will be created, so really this is all about how "unfair" people let each particular sport be.
There isn't really a one stop solution to dividing people amongst sports and I'm sure sex is more/less important in each, just like height, lactic acid creation, lung size, how well funded your states steroid program is etc but any chosen criteria at all has downsides.
I'm sure if there was some domination problem in women's sports rules would just be changed, thus far trans women have been allowed compete in the Olympics for 15 years, only one has and didn't even get a medal. They've competed at school levels for decades too and there has been no domination, mostly not even medaling either. If there was some influx of people competing and winning that were trans I'm sure it would be seen as a problem and guidelines adjusted.
A team of men playing against a team of under 9s though would not be an acceptable level of unfairness. So categories that separate men from boys exist to keep fairness and safety levels acceptable.
Women have their own category for the same reasons. Unfortunately it's been proven that testosterone reduction and other transition treatments don't reverse the natural advantages transwomen accrue during puberty. These advantages cause an unacceptable level of unfairness.
I'm listening to women on this, those in their sports courageous enough to speak up. I don't think the current rarity argument is good enough. They all fear for the future of their sports. Societal acceptance of trans people, while a really great thing, will put an end to that rarity.
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Originally posted by DeadParrot View PostFriend of mine buried his 12 week old baby today who died Stephens Day.
The funeral today and the parlour yesterday was something I don't think I could endure if it was the missus and I in their place.
Makes any problems I have seem miniscule in comparisonI hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Originally posted by AndyFatBastard View PostSome 6'8" top-500 tennis player will identify as trans, claim equal prize money for a season, and put an end to this nonsense.Last edited by Tar.Aldarion; 31-12-21, 20:51.
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Originally posted by Solksjaer! View PostIt's been a remarkable year however 2016 still amazes me. Still cant believe how many elite musicians died
Gone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.
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Originally posted by eamonhonda View Post
It doesn't effect me at all, as I don't think I've bought a slab of cans, or any drink that costs less than the new minimums from an offy in some time.
But surely if they are doing it right the extra money has to come in some form of a tax to be feed into health and addiction services and not just handed to the supermarkets. Seems like a v lazy way to look like something is being done.
Do the real problem drinkers they think they are helping buy slabs, or will they just have to beg for another 30 mins to reach the price of that flagan of cider?
Is there no rich problem drinkers? This only tackles the poor ones?
There is extra tax from this move, as there's now 23% VAT of a higher amount.
Things probably won't all get more expensive, but rather cheaper products that people were buying because they were cheapest will now leave the market. Why would you buy a shit beer for €2, when it's the same price as a decent beer also costing €2. The only sales point of the shit beer was that it was cheaper so it's out of a market.
We will probably also see a significant drop in excessive drinking. The ultimate benefit.
"We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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Originally posted by ArmaniJeans View Post
Also being able to sell at any price you want is also standard across almost all products - except alcohol from Tuesday."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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On to more important matters, look upon todays lunch down in a shabby port restaurant where you literally see the fishermen dragging the days lunch in kicking and screaming. Advertised as 'fried whatever the fisherman brings us', and it was truly glorious. Nothing added but lemon picked from a tree nearby (it is a lemon despite the green colour)
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"We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
It's about stopping people becoming alcoholics in the first place!
Gone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.
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Originally posted by Pat Mustard View PostIreland is a bit of a nanny state lads
"We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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Originally posted by ComradeCollie View Post
And topical.
A friend and I spent a New Years Eve drinking with Brendan Keneally in Madigans in Donnybrook. Must have been about 1995. Just hour after hour of amazing stories, culminating in one that starred himself, Flann O'Brien, RM Smyllie and Patrick Kavanagh going on the lash and ending up in Dalkey Quarry in the dead of night.
The punchline was "hello Smyllie, you bollix"."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by DeadParrot View PostMerry Christmas ya filthy animalsPeople say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Farewell 2021 you extraordinarily weird year. It will be memorable because I became a dad and moved into my first home, however you made a mess of a thousand other things that you're not likely to be forgiven for in a hurry.
Glad to have you gone and done, not looking for any repeats.
Tóg go bog é lads and lassies.
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Originally posted by Emmet View PostFarewell 2021 you extraordinarily weird year. It will be memorable because I became a dad and moved into my first home, however you made a mess of a thousand other things that you're not likely to be forgiven for in a hurry.
Glad to have you gone and done, not looking for any repeats.
Tóg go bog é lads and lassies."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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there are many ways in which my life is an outlier, the last 18 months/2 years is probably one of the biggest examples to date.
with the exception of one aborted trip to south america I haven't really been affected by covid. Sure there was a period when I was stuck in the house for months but having the terrace meant I could sit outside to my hearts content. We bought a pool table for the ridiculous price of €48 the week before xmas 2020 and that along with books and tv provided more than enough entertainment to offset any feelings of cabin fever.
For the rest I haven't really noticed it much apart from the news. I'm not the biggest socialiser anyway and for the vast vast bulk of it we were able to get out to the parks and beach here for walks and what have you so yeah, been a quiet period but nothing too onerous.
All the same, here's hoping we all have a better year this year. Happy new year to all!
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Professionally, 2021 was the worst year ever, with no other year coming anywhere close, to the point where there was once or twice where I thought about jacking in the job with nothing else lined up. That said, it did afford an opportunity to make a few more shillings but I don't believe the uplift was worth the work/effort required.
Personally, the lockdown at the start of the year was really grim but outside of that, the rest of year was relatively OK. The level of socializing was definitely down on previous years but I felt we did more quality stuff rather that quantity which I was alright with.
Here's hoping 2022 is a lot better and that all of ye are happy and content in whatever you do!
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
We'll be talking about 2020/2021 when our kids our auld lads saying dad stop talking about the rona.
Will you ever fuck off with that shite... you are easily one of the worst posters on here for this-Pokerhand
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Originally posted by eamonhonda View Post
Really? Surely an odd trip up to the north and down to Moore st would be profitable?This too shall pass.
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