Bad beat/Moan/Venting Thread - BBV Archive 1

[6starpool]

Between us we should be able to scrape togethe a couple of million by the weekend and lump on that horse. What could possibly go wrong?

[mdoug]

It was hardly too much of a bad beat. He was only a 2/1 dog on the turn with any 5,7,8,9,J getting him there, and he was possibly marginal favourite on the flop all those outs as well, and also his back door flush draw.

alrite ye win

[chips1234]

if withdraw from paddypower to my laser card how long will it take for the withdrawal to go through???

[Emmet]

Could any of the Boylepoker heads on here give me a PM about my account?

I thought I'd never deposited, but it appears to have money in it. I'm worried I may have deposited a paltry amount at some stage, and that I've lost my first depositor's bonus as a consquence?

[Hooch]

if withdraw from paddypower to my laser card how long will it take for the withdrawal to go through???

usually about 3 working days

[Ace]

Could any of the Boylepoker heads on here give me a PM about my account?

I thought I'd never deposited, but it appears to have money in it. I'm worried I may have deposited a paltry amount at some stage, and that I've lost my first depositor's bonus as a consquence?

your not havin much look when it comes to these poker a/c's, first it was FTP and the 60 day clause for RB and now you've discovered you made a drunken deposit and probably miss out on their first time deposit bonus...

[AndyFatBastard]

Just played a few hands on Boyles there with the new tables. Could they have made the font any smaller? It's almost like they wanted it to be hard to read.

[Guest]

Just played a few hands on Boyles there with the new tables. Could they have made the font any smaller? It's almost like they wanted it to be hard to read.

I absolutely hate the boyle layout, thats a bonus i will not be clearing in the next month or so (lucky i made a rick when depositing so its only small i suppose)

[max_power]

Fuck The Wire, H & A is where it's at.

[Sledgejammer]

When I've converted a hand, whats the best output format to use for here?

Like 2p2 format doesn't show up great etc....

Is there a flopturnriver option? That seems to work for me

[Ste05]

That's it, I'm going to Zaytoon for the first time tomorrow for my lunch!!! It better live up to expectations!

Well I went and got the Chicken Kebab thingy, it was a fine Kebab, absolutely no doubt, but I don't think it's as good as The Harcourt Diner.

using a 95% confidence interval

Statistics question: If you have a hypothesis and you test it for significance and you get a p value of 0.05? Therefore it is significant and we can reject the null hypothesis. Is this all correct?

So, in this does it mean the probability value is 5%??? As in 95% of the time our hypothesis is correct or what does this mean in layman/ real world terms??

Soz if this is retarded it was something I was wondering today and when you wrote that, I thought where better to ask then the BBV

[Strewelpeter]

Does anyone happen to know an accommodating GP in Galway city who might be worth a try in trying to get an appointment for a basic medical tomorrow afternoon for a student who couldn't get himself together enough to organise an appointment in the last n weeks and now needs a medical by Monday.
FFS!

[Fullof..It]

Fuck The Wire, H & A is where it's at.

H&A?

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[max_power]

The epicness of that Home and Away has been followed by one of the worst episodes of The Simpsons I have ever seen. Equalia? Wtf? How depressing.

[Denny Crane]

upc must make up at least 50% of post, bit ridic imo

[Ace]

Statistics question: If you have a hypothesis and you test it for significance and you get a p value of 0.05? Therefore it is significant and we can reject the null hypothesis. Is this all correct?

you don't "reject it",
you don't accept it.

a bit like you find someone "not guilty" not "innocent"

[Ste05]

Yes, that's all correct. If you have a p of 0.05 then it has a probability of 5% of happening. If we were looking for 95% sig then a p-value of <0.05 is sufficient. The probablilities then directly translate into the real world...

Sorry for labouring the point.

Say our hypothesis is Higher stress levels cause a decrease in Health?

So we carry out our study etc. and we test our results, and we find if it has a p value of 0.05, i.e. we find it to be significant. Does this mean that in 95% of our test cases the hypothesis holds true?? I don't know why I'm having such a mental block with this whole thing . . .

EDIT: Or there is a 95% chance that our hypothesis holds if we take a random person from the population, as opposed to a 5% chance??

[Ste05]

you don't "reject it",
you don't accept it.

a bit like you find someone "not guilty" not "innocent"

I thought we reject the null hypothesis and accept the alternative??? Or is it simply we accept the Alternative? End of...

[Ace]

The epicness of that Home and Away has been followed by one of the worst episodes of The Simpsons I have ever seen. Equalia? Wtf? How depressing.

Whats going on with H&A these days - saw somechap fell out of tree - didn't see the big deal wit that but seen it posted it on FB.

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[eagle eye]

its sunday in Leop by the looks of it - Kilfora

And his chances probably took a massive dive after it got on the internet.

[Emmet]

Lol at some people's Doppelganger's on facebook this week.

Some serious munters with Paris Hilton / Jennifer Lopez photos.

One of the girls from work has Madonna in her limelight up, I would've alikened her more to Maradonna in present form..

[tylerdurden94]

Just renamed my wireless network to The Wire

[max_power]

Whats going on with H&A these days - saw somechap fell out of tree - didn't see the big deal wit that but seen it posted it on FB.

Way too complex to explain. Here's a few things that have been going on...

-people smuggling
-murder
-faked deaths
-breakups
-prison sex
-boozing/mental breakdowns
-imaginary friends (I think)
-shootouts
-boat cat fights

Can't really think of anything else at the moment but i'm sure there's more, any other Home and Away fans feel free to add to the list.

[Ste05]

I'm sure it was already posted here, but incase it wasn't George Hook is a legend: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2055817876

[HiCloy]

Lol online slot players

Press release from Party a month ago

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The lucky player is 'gamago,' a member of the PartyGaming VIP Club,
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He was delighted by his record breaking win.

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really don't play aiming for them, I play for fun. I have won $50,000
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The fateful spin came at 20.42ET on December 2nd. The stake was $45
on popular PartyCasino.com Gold Mega Jackpot game, the Mega Fortune
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'gamago' turned $45 into $4,978,336.62!

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Then, today

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The punter grabbed the huge rollover on the group's PartyCasino site,
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But after withdrawing Pounds 1.3m, he ploughed the remaining Pounds
1.8m into the group's slot machine games and lost the lot.

The unexpected cash injection helped PartyGaming to increase revenue
by 32pc to Pounds 87.2m during the quarter, but the company also cited
strong growth in all four of its divisions - casino games, poker,
bingo and sports betting.

The firm, up 0.2p to 285.1p, said the improvement in its trading
figures would push underlying earnings for 2009 'slightly ahead' of
expectations.

It was a stunning turnaround for PartyGaming, which struggled in the
first half of the year due to an unusually large number of draws in
Premier League games.

Chief executive Jim Ryan is thought to be close to tying up a merger
with Austrian-based rival Bwin, in a deal that would create a Pounds
2bn gaming titan.

Probably redepositing the remaining £1.3m at the moment

[Emmet]

Is getting KK AIPF 200bb deep out of line?

Really considered folding it...

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($4.07)
Button ($19.37)
SB ($3.80)
BB ($10.60)
UTG ($5.27)
Hero (MP) ($41.52)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K, K
1 fold, Hero bets $0.35, 1 fold, Button raises $1.05, 2 folds, Hero raises $2.65, Button raises $18.32 (All-In), Hero calls $16.37

Flop: ($38.89) 6, 8, J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($38.89) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($38.89) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $38.89

Results:
Button had A, A (one pair, Aces).
Hero had K, K (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Button won $36.89

[Angry-Ball]

iam just after charging straight in here

whispering your mothers name in your ear

now call me out of touch with the times but what in blue blazes is that about?

[Emmet]

Wow at losing 2 huge pots with premium pairs that close together..

Hmm, no more poker tonight

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($21.79)
Hero (BB) ($19.28)
UTG ($3.89)
MP ($29.19)
CO ($13.18)
Button ($13.17)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q
4 folds, SB bets $0.35, Hero raises $1.10, SB calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.40) 4, 10, J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.40, SB raises $6, Hero calls $4.60

Turn: ($14.40) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $14.40, Hero calls $12.08 (All-In)

River: ($38.56) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $38.56

Results:
SB had K, K (two pair, Kings and tens).
Hero had Q, Q (two pair, Queens and tens).
Outcome: SB won $38.88

[daire]

Is getting KK AIPF 200bb deep out of line?

Really considered folding it...

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($4.07)
Button ($19.37)
SB ($3.80)
BB ($10.60)
UTG ($5.27)
Hero (MP) ($41.52)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K, K
1 fold, Hero bets $0.35, 1 fold, Button raises $1.05, 2 folds, Hero raises $2.65, Button raises $18.32 (All-In), Hero calls $16.37

Flop: ($38.89) 6, 8, J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($38.89) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($38.89) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $38.89

Results:
Button had A, A (one pair, Aces).
Hero had K, K (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Button won $36.89

His shove over your 4bet would make me wanna puke but I could never ever fold it.

[Angry-Ball]

Is getting KK AIPF 200bb deep out of line?

Really considered folding it...

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($4.07)
Button ($19.37)
SB ($3.80)
BB ($10.60)
UTG ($5.27)
Hero (MP) ($41.52)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K, K
1 fold, Hero bets $0.35, 1 fold, Button raises $1.05, 2 folds, Hero raises $2.65, Button raises $18.32 (All-In), Hero calls $16.37

Flop: ($38.89) 6, 8, J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($38.89) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($38.89) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $38.89

Results:
Button had A, A (one pair, Aces).
Hero had K, K (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Button won $36.89

never folding pre flop

[Emmet]

iam just after charging straight in here

whispering your mothers name in your ear

now call me out of touch with the times but what in blue blazes is that about?

A harrowing experience

http://www.irishpokerboards.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5998&postcount=2848

[Emmet]

never folding pre flop

yeah, probably not, just felt like AA so bad.

How often does this have to be AK for me to making this call and earning money on it?

[Emmet]

His shove over your 4bet would make me wanna puke but I could never ever fold it.

Is villain in this hand Out of line btw?

Huge overshove, if he makes me even think about folding KK, he's killing QQ and AK chances imo.

Should he reraise to ~7/7.50 ?

[Angry-Ball]

A harrowing experience
http://www.irishpokerboards.com/foru...postcount=2848

yes it was quiet weird but you shoulda got the "leg over" before ditching her

[TommyGunne]

Well I went and got the Chicken Kebab thingy, it was a fine Kebab, absolutely no doubt, but I don't think it's as good as The Harcourt Diner.

Statistics question: If you have a hypothesis and you test it for significance and you get a p value of 0.05? Therefore it is significant and we can reject the null hypothesis. Is this all correct?

Well first of all it depends on the significance level that is deemed appropriate at the start of the test. If we have a 95% confidence interval then you have an ambiguous case with a p-value of .05, but in practice you could always go to a further decimal place and make it greater than or equal to .05 (This kinda highlights a weakness of misapplying results though...). Sometimes a 95% confidence interval isn't appropriate. Also, if you apply a strict above or below criterion to p-values then you won't be correctly understanding the results.

So, in this does it mean the probability value is 5%??? As in 95% of the time our hypothesis is correct or what does this mean in layman/ real world terms??

Dunno anybody who says "probability value"! A p-value of 5% doesn't mean that 95% of the time the null is false. It is just the probability that a a sample statistic of the magnitude obtained would be obtained from this sample size were the null true. That may take some thinking to get your head around (no slur on you, but just saying that this is an idea not to simply look at and say OK. It took me a bit of thinking before I got my AHA! moment with this concept), but it is very very different to saying that 95% of the time the null is false.

Contrary to Hitchhiker, this is technically not correct. Obv my original post was complete waffle, but hopefully the above explanation helps a little. HiCloy, RoundTower, RJ or others might be able to explain better, I may be wrong in some things as well.

[Emmet]

I haven't done hypothesis testing in a while, so this may not be completely up to scratch. But I think if you make it into poker terms to make it more obvious.

Null Hypothesis
AA > KK

Alternate Hypothesis
AA </= KK

At Alpha of .1

You will get a p value of .1805

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

61,642,944 games 0.062 secs 994,241,032 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 81.946% 81.71% 00.23% 50371344 142614.00 { AA }
Hand 1: 18.054% 17.82% 00.23% 10986372 142614.00 { KK }

Thus from this, you can say that at a significance level of .1 , or with 90% confidence, we are unable to reject the alternate hypothesis. (as p > alpha)

However, if we take a significance level (alpha) of .3, we can reject the alternate hypothesis and say that with 70% confidence, that AA > KK (as p < alpha)

[TommyGunne]

Sorry for labouring the point.

Say our hypothesis is Higher stress levels cause a decrease in Health?

So we carry out our study etc. and we test our results, and we find if it has a p value of 0.05, i.e. we find it to be significant. Does this mean that in 95% of our test cases the hypothesis holds true?? I don't know why I'm having such a mental block with this whole thing . . .

EDIT: Or there is a 95% chance that our hypothesis holds if we take a random person from the population, as opposed to a 5% chance??

Not sure what you mean by "in 95% of our test cases the hypothesis holds true??" and "Or there is a 95% chance that our hypothesis holds if we take a random person from the population, as opposed to a 5% chance??"

The correct interpretation would be that we see this value 5% of the time if there is actually no decrease in health from elevated stress levels. Nothing more.

[TommyGunne]

Emmet, if you don't want to get 200bb in pre with KK, then don't 4bet. Easy game.

[Emmet]

Emmet, if you don't want to get 200bb in pre with KK, then don't 4bet. Easy game.

I'm just a nit with a big stack, rush poker has me playing stacks a lot bigger than I'm used to.

I'm not used to playing so deep.

[Jackyback]

What a shitty day get home from work late, stick the spag bol dinner in the microwave, drain of the excess tomatoe puree and of course the dinner ends up in the sink.

Ordering takeaway after that beat.

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[eoghan104]

Can someone give me $50 on Full Tilt for my stars? Want to try this rush poker!

[rounders123]

So im not selected for the jury service again today but its the last day i have to attend and im not going back to work like the previous days, instead i decide to stay and mince around town. Before that i made for the Lillis court room 6 as a ghoul but i was thwarted when i spied an advance group of ghouls being told by the court guards it was full and they cant let anyone else in.

So i go into Capel st/Mary st where i take the oppertunity to get my
hair cut by the blue dress girl lookalike without the buxomness of blue dress girl. I have her pegged as a 90% certainty she's Italian but no she's Romanian. She was asking about holidays and i tell her her about the Georgie Hagi tv ad i seen and ask her to confirm if Georgie Hagi is as much a legend in Romania as i think he is and she says "he was a legend". I picked her up on that point and stated that once someone is a legend they stay a legend even through retirement just to help make her understand that the term legend isnt meant to be a fleeting term.

She tells me she likes Romania and may go back for a week this year but prefers the quiet of the countryside rather than the city towns and the gypsys.
She tells me Transalvania is a great place and i bite hard not to bring Dracula up for fear of it sounding hackneyed so instead just nod along.

I tell her im surprised you like the tranquilty as i had you pegged as a party girl but she tells me she doesnt go out and doesnt drink. She asks me more questions than i deserve to be asked and gives my scalp a good old rub at the end which never happened before at a barbers(Thank god i branched out from Tommy's barbers). Had lunch at an Italian place on Capel st and a pint in tempu bah before stalking the bookies.

In the meantime im dying for a leak so i hit boylesports because as i know they have jacks where pp dont, but theres one goon after the other going in there and as bad as the situation is i have visions of what the standing area is like and puts me off

so i hit the pavement until i come across a mc donalds, now most amatuers bursting to go to the jacks in a fast food joint like this will just walk in off the street and make for the toilets running the risk of getting collared by security despite their customers only policy of toilet useage. Not me, in i stride up to the counter with coinage in my hands making out that im an ordering john whos suddenly changed his mind to make for the jacks before ordering. Not that my vigilence made any difference as the lazy security guard was straddled over a bin facing the opposite direction.

back to bookie basecamp when from inside the bookies i spy a massage parlour across the street and resolve to have a match bet at 5/6 at Meydan and use the proceeds to cover the massage. Instead the bastard gets beat but that doesnt stop me heading across for the massage anyways because i'll be damned if im going to be thwarted twice in the one day.

[Ste05]

iam just after charging straight in here

whispering your mothers name in your ear

now call me out of touch with the times but what in blue blazes is that about?

This is the beauty of the title changes, IMO... something to look forward to finding out what it's all about



And thanks lads, I'm starting to get a clearer understanding of it now... at least my thinking has changed from what it was, i.e. all over the place and wrong, I've logged the latest descriptions and I'd say once I go to back and think through it again I will "get it". Appreciate the time.

[Kayroo]

Came up with a cracking idea for a business today.

Genuine potential and there is nothing like it out there but I'm too fucking lazy to get it going.

Meh, clearly someone will end up thinking of it too and make a mint.

[Angry-Ball]

i must have sucker written all over my forehead after this hand
but actually figured he had AA or KK given his preflop play
but i will get my chips back of that b**tard
if i dont i will leave the air out of his wheels before i go home


Full Tilt Poker Game #18182440510: $24,000 Guarantee (137312783), Table 36 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:42:32 ET - 2010/02/04
Seat 1: hikkespett (3,590)
Seat 2: marix1511 (3,912)
Seat 3: freakygeeky (2,965)
Seat 4: billgoodhand (2,773)
Seat 5: rko2008 (2,510)
Seat 6: lucky-colm (4,430)
Seat 7: robbob74 (4,838)
Seat 8: ksupersmooth (3,105)
Seat 9: garreh (2,727)
garreh posts the small blind of 25
hikkespett posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lucky-colm [Ac Tc]
marix1511 folds
freakygeeky folds
billgoodhand raises to 100
rko2008 folds
lucky-colm has 15 seconds left to act
lucky-colm raises to 300
robbob74 folds
ksupersmooth folds
garreh folds
hikkespett folds
billgoodhand raises to 500
lucky-colm calls 200
*** FLOP *** [6s Td Qd]
billgoodhand checks
lucky-colm checks
*** TURN *** [6s Td Qd] [Ts]
billgoodhand checks
lucky-colm bets 600
billgoodhand calls 600
*** RIVER *** [6s Td Qd Ts] [Jh]
billgoodhand bets 1,673, and is all in
lucky-colm calls 1,673
*** SHOW DOWN ***
billgoodhand shows [Ks Ah] a straight, Ace high
lucky-colm mucks
billgoodhand wins the pot (5,621) with a straight, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5,621 | Rake 0
Board: [6s Td Qd Ts Jh]
Seat 1: hikkespett (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: marix1511 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: freakygeeky didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: billgoodhand showed [Ks Ah] and won (5,621) with a straight, Ace high
Seat 5: rko2008 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: lucky-colm mucked [Ac Tc] - three of a kind, Tens
Seat 7: robbob74 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: ksupersmooth (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: garreh (small blind) folded before the Flop

[ComradeCollie]

Came up with a cracking idea for a business today.

Genuine potential and there is nothing like it out there but I'm too fucking lazy to get it going.

Meh, clearly someone will end up thinking of it too and make a mint.

Ah, if your certain you're not going to do it, what's the harm in blurting it out?

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7laHxv4vIcw[/ame]

[Ace]

So im not selected for the jury service again today but its the last day i have to attend and im not going back to work like the previous days.

obv running well... could get rivered 2moro though.

[Angry-Ball]

bloody donk i only got another 180 chips of him before i went out

[Angry-Ball]

obv running well...

what is the case about

[Ace]

what is the case about

?

[dannydiamond]

So im not selected for the jury service again today but its the last day i have to attend and im not going back to work like the previous days, instead i decide to stay and mince around town. Before that i made for the Lillis court room 6 as a ghoul but i was thwarted when i spied an advance group of ghouls being told by the court guards it was full and they cant let anyone else in.

So i go into Capel st/Mary st where i take the oppertunity to get my
hair cut by the blue dress girl lookalike without the buxomness of blue dress girl. I have her pegged as a 90% certainty she's Italian but no she's Romanian. She was asking about holidays and i tell her her about the Georgie Hagi tv ad i seen and ask her to confirm if Georgie Hagi is as much a legend in Romania as i think he is and she says "he was a legend". I picked her up on that point and stated that once someone is a legend they stay a legend even through retirement just to help make her understand that the term legend isnt meant to be a fleeting term.

She tells me she likes Romania and may go back for a week this year but prefers the quiet of the countryside rather than the city towns and the gypsys.
She tells me Transalvania is a great place and i bite hard not to bring Dracula up for fear of it sounding hackneyed so instead just nod along.

I tell her im surprised you like the tranquilty as i had you pegged as a party girl but she tells me she doesnt go out and doesnt drink. She asks me more questions than i deserve to be asked and gives my scalp a good old rub at the end which never happened before at a barbers(Thank god i branched out from Tommy's barbers). Had lunch at an Italian place on Capel st and a pint in tempu bah before stalking the bookies.

In the meantime im dying for a leak so i hit boylesports because as i know they have jacks where pp dont, but theres one goon after the other going in there and as bad as the situation is i have visions of what the standing area is like and puts me off

so i hit the pavement until i come across a mc donalds, now most amatuers bursting to go to the jacks in a fast food joint like this will just walk in off the street and make for the toilets running the risk of getting collared by security despite their customers only policy of toilet useage. Not me, in i stride up to the counter with coinage in my hands making out that im an ordering john whos suddenly changed his mind to make for the jacks before ordering. Not that my vigilence made any difference as the lazy security guard was straddled over a bin facing the opposite direction.

back to bookie basecamp when from inside the bookies i spy a massage parlour across the street and resolve to have a match bet at 5/6 at Meydan and use the proceeds to cover the massage. Instead the bastard gets beat but that doesnt stop me heading across for the massage anyways because i'll be damned if im going to be thwarted twice in the one day.

A. Are you single?

B. Did you ask this girl out?

A negative answer to A will not exclude you from answering B.

[rounders123]

A. Are you single?

B. Did you ask this girl out?

A negative answer to A will not exclude you from answering B.

A. Yes

B: The first thwartage was not being let into court.

[Jackyback]

Aidan your outlook on life and stories are always entertaining

[LuckyLloyd]

Is it wrong that I find entertainment in the financial stupidity of others??

http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?t=131406

http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?t=131364


I'm beginning to think I might need help.....but I just can't get over how stupid some people are and I keep going and reading these things......I'm an elitist snob no two ways about it....

This is why the country is in the jock it is:

I know that some people arnt bothered about if they own there own house or not, but it's something that i've always wanted to have. The day i turned 18 i looked into getting a mortage for myself, found out what i neeed to do and then 4 years later i was in a position to buy.

I didn't go travelling i didn't blow my money on getting drunk and going out, i saved and saved and saved untill i had enough money to buy. I worked 2 jobs for years to save up all the money that i had. I put all my saving into buying that house, and furnishing it, and it may not be my dream house but it was mine.

It honeslty wouldn't bother me if the house was worth only 50k the point is it was mine and I worked hard to get it, and now it's just been taken away from me.

My situation has changed, the country's situation has changed, i honestly dont think i will ever be able to buy another property for myself. If this house does get sold i will get nothing back from it to even start again. I had my mum a few years ago to help me out with getting the mortgage, her work situation has changed as well, my income has gone down. Even if we sold the house, we wouldn't be able to buy again.

This is correct, but good luck convincing people that it is:

it was never yours, it is the banks and after that you, your ex and your mother, not you on your own.

I know I've posted this type of thing loads of times previous, but it really blows my mind when people openly lay out the crippling social / life experience sacrifices they are willing to make just to own a house, any house. When I was 18 the last things on my mind were owning a house / financial security / etc.

Does any regular here subscribe to the mindset of samanthajane above? I think it is always one way on the matter in this thread and I'd be interested in someone I know making the argument for owning their own patch above all else.

[Lao Lao]

Came up with a cracking idea for a business today.

Genuine potential and there is nothing like it out there but I'm too fucking lazy to get it going.

Meh, clearly someone will end up thinking of it too and make a mint.

Details so, in a PM of course, don't want everyone robbing ur idea, just me

[Jackyback]

This is why the country is in the jock it is:



This is correct, but good luck convincing people that it is:



I know I've posted this type of thing loads of times previous, but it really blows my mind when people openly lay out the crippling social / life experience sacrifices they are willing to make just to own a house, any house. When I was 18 the last things on my mind were owning a house / financial security / etc.

Does any regular here subscribe to the mindset of samanthajane above? I think it is always one way on the matter in this thread and I'd be interested in someone I know making the argument for owning their own patch above all else.

I had my first house/mortgage at 18 but did not make sacrifices in terms of not going out enjoying myself just worked darn hard. Luckily i got cheaply into the property market when i moved up the North - you will never see a 3 bed semi detached again for £40k. My view was probably different than most at that age though.
My longer term view was to get "that stuff" out of the way and be mortgage free in my late 30's to allow me to have more flexibility later in life.
Horses for courses.