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I normally yawn at these sort of things, and disagree a lot of the time but in fairness, this is outrageous.
Take Brendan O'Connor for instance. 4 hours on the radio. Let's assume he does another 15 hours in the background, and takes 3x weeks off. Why is he worth €230 odd an hour?
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Coming back to Bill Bailey. He's been a top class comedian (but possibly understated?) for years, 20+ at this point . Presume everyone has seen Black Books? Really good comedy series - probably 20 or so episodes, himself and Dylan Moran. As a fan of the slightly harder side of music, i did enjoy this...
Musical and comedic genius Bill Bailey proves why he's the master on stage as he shows us why Death Metal works in the German accent but NOT in the Welsh or ...
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Royal rumble haul isn't what it used to be. Case of whiplash body riddle helps though.People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Gimmeabreak
and I yawn at people who think it is outrageous...
RTE Sells Commercial Advertising through program sponsors, Spot Adverts throughout the course of the show. They cost money, call up the LLS there and ask them how much it costs to become the headline sponsor of the show.
The rate for that sponsorship and those advert spots is directly linked to audience. Audience is a factor of host. Pay/Salary is a factor of audience and how much commercial revenue is exploited from that base through advertising and sponsorships.
That said, I am sure in isolation there are some outrageous numbers out there. But on average the system works about as well as it can.
Care to suggest an alternative system that doesn't end up with 4th and 5th rate presenters and a broken broadcasting product.
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Originally posted by Degag View PostComing back to Bill Bailey. He's been a top class comedian (but possibly understated?) for years, 20+ at this point . Presume everyone has seen Black Books? Really good comedy series - probably 20 or so episodes, himself and Dylan Moran. As a fan of the slightly harder side of music, i did enjoy this...Bill recorded this special message to Metallica during his rehearsals for Sonisphere UK at Knebworth!
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Originally posted by ComradeCollie View Post
I've been surprised at how much I like Taylor Swift.
I'll be waggling my hips to that during the oldies section of my daughters 21stPeople say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Think newbie2 used to say the phone in competition on the LLS used to absolutely rake in money for RTE, I'd be certain it's a positive revenue outcome stream even with wages for Tubs.
That said, wish he would have fucked off to the BBC back in the day when he was half being courted by them on various stand in slots, Pat Kenny was a better interviewerLast edited by Micknail; 30-01-22, 01:44.﴾͡๏̯͡๏﴿
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What he came up against, was that he was used to the Western Hemisphere where being a representative for a scam company seems to be largely accepted: 'I'm only a rep'. I prefer our system by and large, but referring to the Chinese gov that is trying to get recompense for the victims as the 'mafia' in this situation is maybe only something that someone deeply engrained in the amoralistic world of finance could say. The company he chose to be paid by, despite fairly open information out there on the company, were run by the literal mafia.Last edited by Hitchhiker's Guide To...; 30-01-22, 02:18."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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Originally posted by Lazare View PostI normally yawn at these sort of things, and disagree a lot of the time but in fairness, this is outrageous.
Take Brendan O'Connor for instance. 4 hours on the radio. Let's assume he does another 15 hours in the background, and takes 3x weeks off. Why is he worth €230 odd an hour?
"We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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Find myself quite struck (no pun intended) by this awful story of the man in Clondalkin that jumped on the bonnet of his car that was being stolen. That momentary mistake and that was all she wrote. Poor lad. Looks sound in the picture. I suppose we could all imagine ourselves making some sort of decision like it. I think in the US, because there was so much news coverage of the 'hero' shopkeeper who jumped on the shop robbers, that chain stores had to institute specific training to instill in staff that they should under no circumstance risk their lives for the shop. It's amazing, and maybe heartwarming, how many people will innately choose the hero option if given a choice."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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Originally posted by MysteryGuest View Post
Was a few goblets of dubbel and trippel deep when I posted that
the score posting (which I assume is a big social media thing) seems stupid though, d sad to think how many people are faking scores for kudos.
something that consistently amazes me in golf actually, ythe lengths people will go to to massage their handicap so they can get their name up in lights
The one I don't understand is a guy who's desperately trying to hold onto his 10hc and now only returns half of his cards after comps. I've played twice with him and both times he asked me to stop marking on the front 9. I was also told by an experienced member to "mind my handicap" before Christmas to have a chance of making an inter-club team.
In general 9/10 people I end up playing with are not like any of the above examples whatsoever. It does amuse me when people go on about the good sportsmanship and ethos of the game.
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Yeah, GAB and Hitch, your points do make sense, as I said I normally avoid populist simplicity whenever salaries are outraged against.
It's really the Brendan O'Connor one that jumped out at me.
Not too familiar with Chay Bowes Hitch, what's the craic with him?I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Originally posted by ComradeCollie View Post
I've been surprised at how much I like Taylor Swift.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
Sorry, wha? The mafia in your example are the scamming company he worked for, or China? We'd be all a lot better off living in a country that treat criminal company behaviour as criminal company behaviour, rather than treating it as less than shoplifting.
What he came up against, was that he was used to the Western Hemisphere where being a representative for a scam company seems to be largely accepted: 'I'm only a rep'. I prefer our system by and large, but referring to the Chinese gov that is trying to get recompense for the victims as the 'mafia' in this situation is maybe only something that someone deeply engrained in the amoralistic world of finance could say. The company he chose to be paid by, despite fairly open information out there on the company, were run by the literal mafia.
I do realise that it's a bit of a game with you but kidnapping (because that's what detaining someone against their will without any criminal charge ever being brought) an Irish citizen for three years and shaking him down for ransom?
For shame sir."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostSorry, wha? The mafia in your example are the scamming company he worked for, or China? We'd be all a lot better off living in a country that treat criminal company behaviour as criminal company behaviour, rather than treating it as less than shoplifting.
Aside from the fact it was a business dispute, which feels like civil rather than criminal. It occurred prior to this guy even working for the company. Supporting this is absolutely guzzling the red kool-aid.
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Originally posted by Mellor View PostWhat exactly was this man’s crime?
Aside from the fact it was a business dispute, which feels like civil rather than criminal. It occurred prior to this guy even working for the company. Supporting this is absolutely guzzling the red kool-aid.
I prefer our system overall, but it's a perfectly valid legal approach to view these matters as criminal.
Plus, these media stories all tend to be fed from one sides legal team, rather than well thought through both-sides analysis. You see it all the time in the UK, where every single legal system in the world, when someone is "banged up abroad" - its always that the innocent Brit who was duped into shoving ten kilos of coke up his ass and shitting it out on the statue of a national diety is the victim of the overseas people who don't know what they are doing.
There tends to be almost no journalism involved in these stories. It's exclusively local lawyer fed.
You can see that with the Iranian-Brit person (an overall tragic story) locked up in Iran, where it has already been admitted she was a British agent to promote underground journalism, yet that is never reported in current stories - its all about the unfairness of Iran. But whatever about the individual tragedy, every country clearly has the right to lock up foreign subversive."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostWe seem to have had essentially no winter this year.
I think I might be offered a move in that direction: 'shit weather' would definitely be in the top 3 reasons not to go."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
Hmm. I'm not sure that's the only ethically correct way of viewing such disputes. That's just how Western business people wrote up the laws - that shoplifters get jail, and scammers through a business get mediation talks in a five star resort.
I prefer our system overall, but it's a perfectly valid legal approach to view these matters as criminal.
Plus, these media stories all tend to be fed from one sides legal team, rather than well thought through both-sides analysis. You see it all the time in the UK, where every single legal system in the world, when someone is "banged up abroad" - its always that the innocent Brit who was duped into shoving ten kilos of coke up his ass and shitting it out on the statue of a national diety is the victim of the overseas people who don't know what they are doing.
There tends to be almost no journalism involved in these stories. It's exclusively local lawyer fed.
You can see that with the Iranian-Brit person (an overall tragic story) locked up in Iran, where it has already been admitted she was a British agent to promote underground journalism, yet that is never reported in current stories - its all about the unfairness of Iran. But whatever about the individual tragedy, every country clearly has the right to lock up foreign subversive.
Anywhere."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by coillcam View Post
For handicap bandits, well you understand their miserable behaviour but it does get annoying when big comps come around. One 12hc lad at my club was cut 3 shots for shooting a level par winter comp (granted it was 15 holes non-counting). Amazing the miraculous imorovements some lads make in winter .
The one I don't understand is a guy who's desperately trying to hold onto his 10hc and now only returns half of his cards after comps. I've played twice with him and both times he asked me to stop marking on the front 9. I was also told by an experienced member to "mind my handicap" before Christmas to have a chance of making an inter-club team.
In general 9/10 people I end up playing with are not like any of the above examples whatsoever. It does amuse me when people go on about the good sportsmanship and ethos of the game.
The new handicap system sorts this out to a decent extent although it does still rely on people putting in cards/scores.
Lads who sandbag are so much worse than lads who have the ego cap.
Nature of the game, and nature of humans means that unless you play straight up it’s very hard to ever calibrate people’s true handicap.
Over here, all competitions are flighted and you play straight up in your flight, so +’s to say 2cap are in Champ flight. 2-8 in A flight. 8-14 in C. And then the rest in D. Is it not something similar back there?
This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
All efforts were made to make this thought original but with the abundance of thoughts in the world the originality of this thought cannot be guaranteed.
The author is not liable for any issue arising from the platitudinous nature of this post.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
You can see that with the Iranian-Brit person (an overall tragic story) locked up in Iran, where it has already been admitted she was a British agent to promote underground journalism, yet that is never reported in current stories - its all about the unfairness of Iran.
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Originally posted by Lazare View PostHad a dream last night that Shrap had a pet monkey and I was marvelling at how cool a dude he is.
Originally posted by coillcam View Post
For handicap bandits, well you understand their miserable behaviour but it does get annoying when big comps come around. One 12hc lad at my club was cut 3 shots for shooting a level par winter comp (granted it was 15 holes non-counting). Amazing the miraculous imorovements some lads make in winter .
The one I don't understand is a guy who's desperately trying to hold onto his 10hc and now only returns half of his cards after comps. I've played twice with him and both times he asked me to stop marking on the front 9. I was also told by an experienced member to "mind my handicap" before Christmas to have a chance of making an inter-club team.
In general 9/10 people I end up playing with are not like any of the above examples whatsoever. It does amuse me when people go on about the good sportsmanship and ethos of the game.
problem is with the new system, you need to play at least 20 comps before it starts to stabilise. i started off at 24, then shot a 90 in comp (won it) handicap went down to 18, and now it's back up to 21, simply because i don't play enough comps for it to stabilise. i probably should be around 19
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Originally posted by pokerhand View Post
Who running the event? Can't see anything online.
They run festivals like the iPO regularly.
Have struck a deal with the Bonnington Hotel to run weekly tournaments & cash games
every Thursday through Saturday.
It kicked off this week and
they've been getting 60ish runners nightly.
There's a WhatsApp group with all the details
called Bonnington Poker info.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostHmm. I'm not sure that's the only ethically correct way of viewing such disputes. That's just how Western business people wrote up the laws - that shoplifters get jail, and scammers through a business get mediation talks in a five star resort.
I prefer our system overall, but it's a perfectly valid legal approach to view these matters as criminal.
Im not sure the eastern/western card flies here. That’s applies to people caught with drugs in Bali and banged up for life.
But just because the totalitarian regime allows kidnapping, doesn’t make it ethical.
Plus, these media stories all tend to be fed from one sides legal team, rather than well thought through both-sides analysis. You see it all the time in the UK, where every single legal system in the world, when someone is "banged up abroad" - its always that the innocent Brit who was duped into shoving ten kilos of coke up his ass and shitting it out on the statue of a national diety is the victim of the overseas people who don't know what they are doing.
There tends to be almost no journalism involved in these stories. It's exclusively local lawyer fed.
You can see that with the Iranian-Brit person (an overall tragic story) locked up in Iran, where it has already been admitted she was a British agent to promote underground journalism, yet that is never reported in current stories - its all about the unfairness of Iran. But whatever about the individual tragedy, every country clearly has the right to lock up foreign subversive.
It was a simple question. What was his crime? The individual who was detained for 3 years? You’ve claimed he was a criminal, should be easy to state his crime.
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
Just to be clear: are you saying that detaining people for years in a business dispute without either charges or trial is a perfectly OK thing to do?
Anywhere."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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Originally posted by Mellor View Post
It was a simple question. What was his crime? The individual who was detained for 3 years? You’ve claimed he was a criminal, should be easy to state his crime."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostAnd its not 'kidnapping', lol. Its preventing people leaving a country while they face criminal investigation, which is standard in many countries. Including Ireland."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Hectorjelly View Post
Do you have a source for that? Or are you referring to a statement Boris made that was afterwards retracted?"We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
I didn't claim he was a criminal anywhere? He was suspected of being involved in a criminal enterprise.
They didn't even try to prove him guilty. They just kidnapped him and demanded a ransom, doing what dictatorships do."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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A country is fully entitled to their own legal proceedings, and their own interpretation of what is civil and criminal law. We are probably too soft on categorising a lot of business scams as civil matters, primarily because politicians and business people move in the same social circles. Its not morally wrong to categorise this as a criminal matter, its a case of choices.
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Originally posted by ArmaniJeans View PostNadal back from 2-0 down to take it to a fifth set v Medvedev. Eurosport."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostA country is fully entitled to their own legal proceedings, and their own interpretation of what is civil and criminal law. We are probably too soft on categorising a lot of business scams as civil matters, primarily because politicians and business people move in the same social circles. Its not morally wrong to categorise this as a criminal matter, its a case of choices."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by DeeBrown View Post
Nick O'Hara & Brian Lannon.
They run festivals like the iPO regularly.
Have struck a deal with the Bonnington Hotel to run weekly tournaments & cash games
every Thursday through Saturday.
It kicked off this week and
they've been getting 60ish runners nightly.
There's a WhatsApp group with all the details
called Bonnington Poker info.No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity, but I know none, therefore am no beast.
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
Therefore he is, by definition, innocent. I'm sure you agree with the fundamental precept of innocent until proven guilty.
They didn't even try to prove him guilty. They just kidnapped him and demanded a ransom, doing what dictatorships do."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
So, if it's a criminal matter, should there not be, you know stuff like actual criminal charges. A trial maybe? Due process?"We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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So, to summarise:
The Shanghai courts, like courts in many countries, decided there was a sufficient case to be answered, and revoked his exit visa.
This is a standard procedure in most countries of the world where there is a possibility of a flight risk. Including many prominent and high profile cases in supposed better legal jurisdictions like the US, Canada, UK.
He remained on bail while the investigation proceeded against him.
There was almost certainly criminal actions by the particular company. The open issue was the extent to which he was culpable.
Its a weird form of kidnapping that seems to only apply in his particular case and not the other countries where it is also a standard procedure. The very fact of using the word 'kidnapping' highlights the flawed logic.
Going back to my original point, that's why these national news stories, that are almost exclusively fed by the local legal team, are often a poor interpretation of the underlying story. Indeed, the UK versions of these stories, largely feed on xenophobic views of the world."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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Found more 'kidnapping' cases in errant legal systems.
The judicial kidnapping of Julian Assange
Arrest of Huawei top executive Meng Wanzhou likened to kidnapping
Courts Can Take Debtors’ Passports to Block Flight
CHICAGO (CN) - Federal courts may confiscate the passports of debtors who are believed to be a flight risk, the 7th Circuit ruled.
After Pethinaidu and Parameswari Veluchamy defaulted on $39 million in debts owed to Bank of America, a federal judge ordered them to turn over financial records showing their assets.
The couple delayed for three months, asserting protection under the Fifth Amendment. The judge rejected their defense and ordered them to comply with the citations.
The court soon discovered that the Veluchamys had transferred about $20 million of their assets to India. The couple had also diluted or transferred ownership of their nonmovable U.S. assets.
Bank of America requested an emergency order compelling the Veluchamys to produce the funds that they had transferred overseas. The court obliged and also ordered the couple to relinquish their passports until the assets were reclaimed.
US pretrial detention
Nearly half a million people in the U.S. are currently being detained pretrial – in other words, they are awaiting trial and still legally innocent.
My point is not that these are acceptable, necessarily, just that it is standard procedure to detain or restrict the movements of people before trial, while criminal proceedings proceed against them. So, the idea that this is some sort of Chinese exceptional thing is clearly wrong.Last edited by Hitchhiker's Guide To...; 30-01-22, 13:32."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostIt's also a fairly standard part of bail conditions in the US where there is a flight risk that they have to surrender their passports.
Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostA country is fully entitled to their own legal proceedings, and their own interpretation of what is civil and criminal law..
and whatever legal process they want? Lmfao.
You’ve literally described every human rights violation in history.
Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostI didn't claim he was a criminal anywhere? He was suspected of being involved in a criminal enterprise.
But you’re still trying to dodge.
What was he personally suspected of? The disputed deal occur before he worked at the company.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostI didn't claim he was a criminal anywhere?
Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostThere were, of course, criminal charges against him."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
Both of them look knackered. I think you would have to shoot Nadal to get him to lose from here though. Probably with an elephant gun.
Spare a thought for Novax?"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
Now you are just making stuff up.
Let's examine this:
Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostThere were, of course, criminal charges against him. He constantly appeared in court over the years as these criminal charges proceeded against him.
O'Halloran was never charged in the Chinese courts.
The Journal succinctly and correctly describes the reality:
There are no allegations of wrongdoing against O’Halloran, but Chinese authorities have refused to let him leave the country while a financial and legal solution is worked out.
Mr O’Halloran was never accused of any wrongdoing or charged with any crime but he endured endless court appearances, hours-long police interrogations
"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
This is either wilful ignorance or just a flat-out lie.
O'Halloran was never charged in the Chinese courts.
This is an interpretation based on our legal system. He was the subject of court proceedings. Exactly when, in that point, formal charges are presented differs by country, but he was certainly in that process."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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