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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
Yeah, I think you think you're being smart, but it's actually comprehensively stupid. As the link above shows convincingly.
No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity, but I know none, therefore am no beast.
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Much to PSV's horror, this jackeen decamped to the West last weekend for three glorious days. It's totally a first world problem, but we hadn't been away since the 1st week in January. I had some respite in that I've been going into the office every day but Mrs Lao Lao has been working from home the whole time - You definitely need a change of scenery every so often.
We didn't get down to Roundstone until about quarter to eleven Friday night so we just had the obligatory few glasses of wine with the father in law before heading to bed around 1 am. Now, when I am out west, I get the most perfect sleeps. We're out a bit from the village so it's dead quiet and pitch black, cannot stress how well I sleep.
After a nice lie in on Saturday, we had breakfast and set out to hit the beach and go for a swim. Dog's Bay and Gurteen were rammed so we headed out to Manin which is just past Ballyconnelly. We had the entire place to ourselves, not another sinner of the beach. The weather became a bit overcast and actually started to lightly spit rain as we got into the sea but within a few minutes, the sun was out and the water was glorious, we must have stayed in for about 30 minutes. From there we headed back to home where the father in law had obtained 4 freshly caught lobster which we cooked and polished off for dinner and washed them down with some great Chablis, which was followed by cheese and then chocolate with a really good Pinot Noir from NZ
Sunday was a somewhat early start (for early, read 10am) as we had acquired one of Mrs Lao Lao's friends kid who were staying not to far from us. He is 9 and obsessed with boats/ships so we took him out to Inis Lackeen for the morning. Lots of good fun on the boat, exploring the island, and doing stuff that ten year olds enjoy. Much to my annoyance, Mrs Lao Lao forgot to put some chorizo into the picnic basket so when we went crab hunting in the rock pools, we had to settle for Dunnes Stores finest Italian ham. Now, it clearly wasn't going to be the same but we did manage to catch three crabs with it in a relatively short time. I reckon we could have got more had we stuck at it but once we caught a few, the novelty wore off the 9 year old for wanted to do something else. It clearly demonstrated that the Duke family just don't have a long pedigree in the capturing of crustaceans. After a good swim off the beach in Inis Lackeen, we headed for home and the 9 year old was made up as he was allowed steer the boat across the main stretch of the water. After we handed him back to his parents, we headed for a spin out to Cleggan. There's not much to do there but there was a little coffee shop for some cake and coffee overlooking the harbor which did the trick. From there, it was back home where I got suck into making dinner which was roast chuck with all the trimmings, followed by rhubarb crumble and Connemara ice-cream all accompanied with some more of the Chablis.
Monday was the nicest day of the three, so nice that we hung around until 5pm rather than heading for Dublin early afternoon. We took the scenic route into and out of Roundstone (there's a walk along the coast rather than the road) for coffee and the papers and then took a dip in the sea when we got back to cool down. The water was just fantastic. When we got out, the father in law had prepared a feed of prawns for us, just to make sure we didn't fade away on the drive home.
I've said it before, I couldn't live out there full time as it would be too quiet but a visit there a few times a year is the best tonic you could ever get. We've already made plans to head back out for a slightly longer stay in early Sept sans father in law, I'm already looking forward to it!!
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SPOILEROriginally posted by Lao Lao View PostMuch to PSV's horror, this jackeen decamped to the West last weekend for three glorious days. It's totally a first world problem, but we hadn't been away since the 1st week in January. I had some respite in that I've been going into the office every day but Mrs Lao Lao has been working from home the whole time - You definitely need a change of scenery every so often.
We didn't get down to Roundstone until about quarter to eleven Friday night so we just had the obligatory few glasses of wine with the father in law before heading to bed around 1 am. Now, when I am out west, I get the most perfect sleeps. We're out a bit from the village so it's dead quiet and pitch black, cannot stress how well I sleep.
After a nice lie in on Saturday, we had breakfast and set out to hit the beach and go for a swim. Dog's Bay and Gurteen were rammed so we headed out to Manin which is just past Ballyconnelly. We had the entire place to ourselves, not another sinner of the beach. The weather became a bit overcast and actually started to lightly spit rain as we got into the sea but within a few minutes, the sun was out and the water was glorious, we must have stayed in for about 30 minutes. From there we headed back to home where the father in law had obtained 4 freshly caught lobster which we cooked and polished off for dinner and washed them down with some great Chablis, which was followed by cheese and then chocolate with a really good Pinot Noir from NZ
Sunday was a somewhat early start (for early, read 10am) as we had acquired one of Mrs Lao Lao's friends kid who were staying not to far from us. He is 9 and obsessed with boats/ships so we took him out to Inis Lackeen for the morning. Lots of good fun on the boat, exploring the island, and doing stuff that ten year olds enjoy. Much to my annoyance, Mrs Lao Lao forgot to put some chorizo into the picnic basket so when we went crab hunting in the rock pools, we had to settle for Dunnes Stores finest Italian ham. Now, it clearly wasn't going to be the same but we did manage to catch three crabs with it in a relatively short time. I reckon we could have got more had we stuck at it but once we caught a few, the novelty wore off the 9 year old for wanted to do something else. It clearly demonstrated that the Duke family just don't have a long pedigree in the capturing of crustaceans. After a good swim off the beach in Inis Lackeen, we headed for home and the 9 year old was made up as he was allowed steer the boat across the main stretch of the water. After we handed him back to his parents, we headed for a spin out to Cleggan. There's not much to do there but there was a little coffee shop for some cake and coffee overlooking the harbor which did the trick. From there, it was back home where I got suck into making dinner which was roast chuck with all the trimmings, followed by rhubarb crumble and Connemara ice-cream all accompanied with some more of the Chablis.
Monday was the nicest day of the three, so nice that we hung around until 5pm rather than heading for Dublin early afternoon. We took the scenic route into and out of Roundstone (there's a walk along the coast rather than the road) for coffee and the papers and then took a dip in the sea when we got back to cool down. The water was just fantastic. When we got out, the father in law had prepared a feed of prawns for us, just to make sure we didn't fade away on the drive home.
I've said it before, I couldn't live out there full time as it would be too quiet but a visit there a few times a year is the best tonic you could ever get. We've already made plans to head back out for a slightly longer stay in early Sept sans father in law, I'm already looking forward to it!!
I'll be staying in a house on Inishboffin Island early Sept sailing from Cleggan harbour. Never been and looking forward to it and intend to rule Inishboffin for that short period of time. If i encounter hardy locals who wont fold easily I might mobilize you. Standby. Over.
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Cant be arsed to go digging for the Restaurant thread but for anyone that's visiting Kerry at any stage you must go to Jack's Coastguard in Cromane. About 10 minutes far side of Killorglin and worth the trip from anywhere in the county. Our Airbnb was 40 minutes away and my parents joined us from almost an hour away. Absolutely everything about it is top class that I could probably write an essay recommending it.
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Originally posted by rounders123 View Post
I'll be staying in a house on Inishboffin Island early Sept sailing from Cleggan harbour. Never been and looking forward to it and intend to rule Inishboffin for that short period of time. If i encounter hardy locals who wont fold easily I might mobilize you. Standby. Over.
She was almost fully gone when I saw her up there last week.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostIt's a chart designed to show an ideology, hence it not being IMF data. For example there's far more slavery in US if you consider forced labour at $0.23 an hour in US prisons, where people are imprisoned for primarily racial reasons.
The current estimate is that there is about 40 million slaves in the world today, with the countries where it is most prevalent being:
India is home to the largest number of slaves globally, with 8 million, followed by China (3.86 million), Pakistan (3.19 million), North Korea (2.64 million), Nigeria (1.39 million), Iran (1.29 million), Indonesia (1.22 million), Democratic Republic of the Congo (1 million), Russia (794,000) and the Philippines (784,000)."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Solksjaer! View PostLet's not forget those poor feckers building the luxurious buildings in Dubai . Living in atrocious conditions"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostRookie mistake that will take years of therapy to get over (again). Sat in line of sight of the clown at the kids show. Cue being forced into a ten minute routine on the stage of the most cringeworthy kind. I'd been almost four years French-clown-free after the last incident and we're just about to escape on the ferry from French clown country. Its like Murtagh being a day from retirement in Lethal Weapon.Gone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.
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Gone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostRookie mistake that will take years of therapy to get over (again). Sat in line of sight of the clown at the kids show. Cue being forced into a ten minute routine on the stage of the most cringeworthy kind. I'd been almost four years French-clown-free after the last incident and we're just about to escape on the ferry from French clown country. Its like Murtagh being a day from retirement in Lethal Weapon.
Makes it an evens shot you'll be dragged up for the Dad Dancing contest. Humilation beyond belief.Last edited by Raoul Duke III; 09-08-20, 20:43."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
That looks fascinating but impossible to read! I read a review saying 'even for an extreme leftist philosophical doctrine written in Paris in the 1960s, this is a bit convoluted'.Last edited by ComradeCollie; 09-08-20, 21:34.Gone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.
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Originally posted by dobby View PostCant be arsed to go digging for the Restaurant thread but for anyone that's visiting Kerry at any stage you must go to Jack's Coastguard in Cromane. About 10 minutes far side of Killorglin and worth the trip from anywhere in the county. Our Airbnb was 40 minutes away and my parents joined us from almost an hour away. Absolutely everything about it is top class that I could probably write an essay recommending it.
https://jackscromane.com/
Hope the Dublin registration doesn't get us too many funny looks! At least we're not driving a Kildare car I suppose
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
Capisco.
Didn't see any Sopranos types in Prado but you never know. Think The Monk lives fairly close.
I used to have a friend who lived on St Lawrence's road who was a garda. We were walking across Clontarf Road and a car comes down St Lawrence's road and turns too close to us for my liking. I shout expletive-laden abuse at it. My friend goes: "You know who that was right? It was The Monk."
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
Not sure what slavery has to do with the topic? I'd imagine those numbers are also highly doubtful. The clue being in the generic weblink to IMF in the graphic to give the assumed halo of IMF to the data. Those are not IMF numbers, which is why the graphic can't link to anything specific from IMF.
Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostIt's a chart designed to show an ideology, hence it not being IMF data.
Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostFor example there's far more slavery in US if you consider forced labour at $0.23 an hour in US prisons
Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Postwhere people are imprisoned for primarily racial reasons.
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostThat was my point. Canada is an exception because its now a place where a reasonable human might want to live and raise a family the US and Australia are not.
The thinly veiled dig is pretty sad attempt at whatever you were going for tbh.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostI think he's describing a situation a good while ago. Hopefully it has changed since Trudeau came into power given there was the big healthfelt apology episode.
while it's a different topic, look at how slow the change was in the same-sex marriage acceptance or abortion referendums. Both seen a big "wins" but the amounf of people against them was still kinda worrying.
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You should watch 13th on Netflix if you haven’t already
] it is titled after the Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, adopted in 1865, which abolished slavery throughout the United States and ended involuntary servitude except as a punishment for conviction of a crime.
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Originally posted by Emmet View PostWho'd be on an Irish Mount Rushmore? - Question on Newstalk now - 4 faces.
Jeopardy style reverso - can you tell me what kind of person gave the following 4?
Samuel Beckett (what a face)
"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Jam-Fly View Post
so you had me here...
you had me here...
yeah, you still had me here...
then you've lost me a bit here. Are you not just attaching your ideology to the "data" here? If you're arguing that the USA has the highest modern slavery (by a certain definition), fair enough. Implying causation between imprisonment due to racism and modern day slavery is a big leap, no?
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Originally posted by Hectorjelly View Post"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
you want 4 good faces, never mind any other factor. So I'll just give one:
Samuel Beckett (what a face)
Miley from Glenroe
Podge (Better looking than Rodge )
AND OF COURSE RONNIE DREW (whose death started a worldwide recession ?
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Originally posted by Emmet View PostWho'd be on an Irish Mount Rushmore? - Question on Newstalk now - 4 faces.
Jeopardy style reverso - can you tell me what kind of person gave the following 4?
The 4 most important people in shaping the country we live in
Maybe with a statue of Sean Lemass or the likes giving them the finger!
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Originally posted by ArmaniJeans View PostLocation for our Rushmore would be interesting as well - we don't have Indian land to desecrate so we'd have to think outside the box on the most unsuitable location possible.
Hills of Tara maybe, or the side of Ben Bulben."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Emmet View PostI've long thought of the slogans at the top of the hillside on the right hand side as you approach the Glen of the Downs as Ireland's answer to Rushmore tbh."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
3 strikes and you're out was precisely one of the laws developed to criminalise the black community. Just put more police in black neighbourhoods to observe petty criminality and bang after three minor crimes you've got a 25 year prison sentence slave to work for $1.50 a day.
Oddly enough, it was one of the deepest blue states, California, who led the way back in 1994.
e.g.:California's “three strikes” law is a sentencing scheme that gives defendants a prison sentence of 25 years to life if they are convicted of three violent or serious felonies."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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I would have zero problem with an Irish version of that law for repeat violent offenders.
How many court cases do you read of where the summary is "Scumbag X, who has more than 100 previous convictions, received a suspended sentence'?"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostI would have zero problem with an Irish version of that law for repeat violent offenders.
How many court cases do you read of where the summary is "Scumbag X, who has more than 100 previous convictions, received a suspended sentence'?
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
I was getting at that these imprisoned black people are then forced to work at $0.23 an hour in prison so they can afford 'luxuries' like toothpaste. Which seems pretty exactly like slavery. The fact that it disproportionately happens in Southern racist states makes it seem like starting the band up again to reinstall slavery. Maybe it's a leap, but it's not too much of a leap imo.i think the intention is fairly clear.
It's a widely held idea by justice reform campaigners in the US, whether right or wrong, so I'm not just pulling the idea out of my ass.
If you think slavery is wrong full stop (or if you want to be more specific, if you think using prisoners as slaves is wrong), then surely it should be about stopping the practice of using prisoners as slaves - (so the fact that you're more likely to become a prisoner due to racial reasons is largely irrelevant).
If you think people being more likely to become prisoners due to racism is wrong, then it should be about addressing this racism.
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
probably 17/18
but that's the equivalent of non-league football compared to playing Premier League for Man City
Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
You and GL2ME could do with a bit of differentiation too, I have to squint every time to see if its the lad with the hairstyle or the lad with a senior all Ireland medal
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
3 strikes and you're out was precisely one of the laws developed to criminalise the black community. Just put more police in black neighbourhoods to observe petty criminality and bang after three minor crimes you've got a 25 year prison sentence slave to work for $1.50 a day.Last edited by Guest; 10-08-20, 11:31.
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostI would have zero problem with an Irish version of that law for repeat violent offenders.
How many court cases do you read of where the summary is "Scumbag X, who has more than 100 previous convictions, received a suspended sentence'?
Id agree though that there should be an increased severity for repeat offenders, if there is even a perception of leniency for petit criminality it can lead to dangerous outcomes. It would need to be for something that affects others though like violent crime or the like.
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Originally posted by Sickpuppy View Post
Maybe just maybe if they didn’t do the crimes they would not have to do the time. Like sone yahoo from paves point blame everyone but the individual responsible. I’d have no issue giving a life sentence to some scumbag with 40 or 50 convictions how many bribes and what cost to the state have they accumulated.
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Originally posted by Goodluck2me View PostI recently heard of a 14yo playing first team cricket with Merrion, which I figure is a serious achievement. Youngest ever for the club.
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
It only applies to violent crime or serious felonies.
Oddly enough, it was one of the deepest blue states, California, who led the way back in 1994.
e.g.:
Violent crime has dropped by 50% in California since it was introduced. So I guess the people who voted it in by a large majority would be happy with it, in what is generally reckoned to be the most progressive state in the US.
The Effect of Three-Strikes Legislation on Serious Crime in California study analyzed the effect of the Three-Strikes legislation as a means of deterrence and incapacitation. The study found that the Three-Strikes Law did not have a very significant effect on deterrence of crime, but also that this[38] ineffectiveness may be due to the diminishing marginal returns associated with having pre-existing repeat offender laws in place.[39]
A 2015 study found that three-strikes laws were associated with a 33% increase in the risk of fatal assaults on law enforcement officers.[44]
Anyway, this whole discussion is about twenty years behind modern thinking. Prisons don't work in any effective sense, they never have and they never will. This is a good primer on the future and prisons and punishment:
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
It only applies to violent crime or serious felonies.
Oddly enough, it was one of the deepest blue states, California, who led the way back in 1994.
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Violent crime has dropped by 50% in California since it was introduced. So I guess the people who voted it in by a large majority would be happy with it, in what is generally reckoned to be the most progressive state in the US.
Three strikes does not work. It leads to absurdities beyond description and attributing a drop in violent crime to it is a classic correlation/causation error.You are technically correct...the best kind of correct
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Originally posted by Kayroo View Post
Hectorjelly deals with it pretty well but let me just head you off at the pass here and tell you: You are wrong.
Three strikes does not work. It leads to absurdities beyond description and attributing a drop in violent crime to it is a classic correlation/causation error."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Elshambles View Post
Sur wasn't the Duke hockied all over the park by a 8 year old Eoin Morgan in a senior cup match or something (that's how I remember the story anyhu)"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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