Bad beat/Moaning/Venting thread - Wordle Gummidge

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[Opr]

There is also the fact that we live in a different age. Comparing what worked in the past versus what works now is stupid. We have evolved in many ways so saying that the system can't change or evolve doesn't make sense. What got us to this point may have been the best of what was available but that doesn't mean it remains the best way forward.

[Opr]

I think Nick Hanauer speaks a lot of sense in this area. One of his striking messages that he tried to get across is that it is not competition but cooperation that drives us forward which is rather poignant in this current crisis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th3KE_H27bs

[Solksjaer!]

There is also the fact that we live in a different age. Comparing what worked in the past versus what works now is stupid. We have evolved in many ways so saying that the system can't change or evolve doesn't make sense. What got us to this point may have been the best of what was available but that doesn't mean it remains the best way forward.

I'd dispute the evolution point. We are in a period of regression . It beggars belief where we are right now .

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[Raoul Duke III]

what a name though.

Sir Humphry Tyrrell Wakefield

You just don't get names of that calibre anymore. Or indeed cannons of that calibre.

[Raoul Duke III]

I'd dispute the evolution point. We are in a period of regression . It beggars belief where we are right now .

It's a sign of getting old when you start moaning about the Good Old Days.

[Solksjaer!]

when do you think was a better time? I mean it as a serious question - like do you genuinely believe the world was better at some point in the past?

Yes . Go back even 5 years . I had a grudging respect for World leaders and some politicians I'm struggling to find one now. It's as though we are being parodied somehow. Perhaps the celestial gamers are bored and want us to regress for LOLS .

[Solksjaer!]

It's a sign of getting old when you start moaning about the Good Old Days.

Saying 'beggars belief ' is probably another sign.
I miss Sapphire offering me a straddle .

[Raoul Duke III]

Yes . Go back even 5 years . I had a grudging respect for World leaders and some politicians I'm struggling to find one now. It's as though we are being parodied somehow. Perhaps the celestial gamers are bored and want us to regress for LOLS .

Merkel?

[rounders123]

Most products made in the past was better though, thing of cadbury snack bar. Wrapped in foil(paper on inside of foil paper on outside then paper wrapping.
Bought a 6pk of meanies yesterday, pathetic pea sized meanies, smallest ive ever seen. Snax used be big yellow dusty squares now they are small white dry squares!.
Fig rolls is one product staying constant.

Must say one product that has upped its game recently is the Old Paso enchilada kit. The wraps is the main thing, thinner and not crusty like previously.

I seen Ireland flags on windows yesterday?, whats that about were they showing some match of yesteryear on tv or something?.

[Raoul Duke III]

Saying 'beggars belief ' is probably another sign.
I miss Sapphire offering me a straddle .

or a strudel

[Solksjaer!]

Merkel?

Shes a shadow of her former self . Daburd needs to step down

[ComradeCollie]

Matt Hancock was in some form today

[ComradeCollie]

I seen Ireland flags on windows yesterday?, whats that about were they showing some match of yesteryear on tv or something?.

I assumed it was our version of clapping the NHS.

[Rahenyrhythm]

I assumed it was our version of clapping the NHS.

I think it's partly that, also some sign of generally showing solidarity as a nation in the face of the virus.
I think.

[pokerhand]

British premier League is scheduled to restart on 17th June.

[AndyFatBastard]

stuff

Sorry way too much to unpack here. It's very difficult to know where to start. A few points which I hope will meet your actual positions as head on as possible:

1. It's not enough to say that's something wrong when no viable alternative is available. There are aspects of our current system that encourage short-termism for sure. Hopefully this crisis will be a wake up call that long-term stability must also be prioritised. Capital doesn't want instability either. But everything is so interconnected now that one failure anywhere produces a shockwave through the entire system. This is a good thing in the long term because everyone will force everyone else to get their shit together, but in the short term it will be chaotic. We're living in a period of relentless, accelerating change. Shit be whacked yo.

2. The suicide and domestic violence stats I've seen are deeply troubling. Lockdown definitely comes with human costs that we need to have both eyes firmly fixed on. That said, I think it will be good for a lot of people to have faced some genuine adversity and come through it. A lot of young people especially are building resilience right now that will help them through the rest of their lives, as counter-intuitive as that seems. Humans are anti-fragile.

3. Agreed completely this isn't 2008 and a whole different approach will be needed. Of course we could sustain this for a very long time, the problem is what will the cost of that be? If you think there won't be tremendous costs both economically and in human terms then I have some magic beans to sell you. A huge amount of investment will be required to recover from this. I'm hopeful that it will appear. The signs are that it will.

4. Not sure what you mean by yielding what and to whom? Can you elaborate?

5. Totally agree about difficult conversations, trouble is there's too many unknowns right now. A lot of pro-lockdown people I see claiming that a vaccine will come in a few months if we just hold out for it. That's complete nonsense. We have to assume there won't be a vaccine. There's a very strong chance there won't be one, so we're going to have to figure out how to live without one. If one comes along that will be amazing, but we can't pin everything on it. We have to figure out what's the largest amount of human activity we can perform with the minimal amount of transmission. Both those competing variables must be taken into account. Anyone prioritising one over the other is playing the wrong game.

[Denny Crane]

Most products made in the past was better though, thing of cadbury snack bar. Wrapped in foil(paper on inside of foil paper on outside then paper wrapping.
Bought a 6pk of meanies yesterday, pathetic pea sized meanies, smallest ive ever seen. Snax used be big yellow dusty squares now they are small white dry squares!.
Fig rolls is one product staying constant.

Must say one product that has upped its game recently is the Old Paso enchilada kit. The wraps is the main thing, thinner and not crusty like previously.

I seen Ireland flags on windows yesterday?, whats that about were they showing some match of yesteryear on tv or something?.

Why is everything they make only mild? It that something unique to the Irish palate, or is that all they make? Don't think I've ever seen a non-mild kit.

[ArmaniJeans]

Quality set of fixtures to welcome horse-racing back next weekend.

Friday, June 5, ITV4
Newmarket
1.50 Race Five Handicap
2.25 Abernant Stakes (Group 3)
3.00 Paradise Stakes (Listed)
3.35 Coronation Cup (Group 1)

Lingfield
2.05 East Grinstead Handicap
2.40 Oaks Trial Fillies’ Stakes (Listed)
3.15 Derby Trial Stakes (Listed)

Saturday, June 6, ITV

Newmarket
1.50 Palace House Stakes (Group 3)
2.25 Dahlia Fillies’ Stakes (Group 2)
3.00 Newmarket Stakes (Listed)
3.35 Qipco 2,000 Guineas Stakes (Group 1)

Newcastle
2.05 Washington Handicap
2.40 Sagaro Stakes (Group 3)
3.15 New Harrington Handicap

Sunday, June 7, ITV

Newmarket
1.50 Buckhounds Stakes (Listed)
2.25 Barrow Handicap
3.00 EBF Pretty Polly Fillies’ Stakes (Listed)
3.35 Qipco 1,000 Guineas Stakes (Group 1)

Haydock Park
2.05 Pinnacle Stakes (Group 3)
2.40 Brigadier Gerard Stakes (Group 3)
3.15 Spring Trophy Stakes (Listed)

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[Denny Crane]

I meant to setup a thread months ago about the predictions of how things would pan out. Would be interesting to look back on.

Will some of the current effects stay with us?
I think people have a lot of habits that they haven't previously considered. Now, people will have broken all sorts of consumer habits, will they pick them back up?
Will there be a permanent downturn in consumerism?
There's probably a ton of pub regulars who have found other things to do and might not go back. Will this be the end of the Chancery?
Less business travel.
More working from home.

[Denny Crane]

Anyone know where’s best to trade US stock options? Have a Degiro acc but they only offer options trading for US indexes, not individual stocks.

@ Denny maybe?

Interactive brokers

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[Trippie]

The idea that other economic models wouldn't also be fucked up in different but no less impactful ways is very silly. The absolute worst takes I've seen from all this have involved people claiming X problems wouldn't have happened under <insert my prior government preference of choice>. Of course there are distinct challenges based on capitalist levels of consumption (which are driven by the incredible levels of wealth). But espousing the idea that e.g. a socialist government would build extreme resilience into their systems during a time of unprecedented peace and prosperity shows a tremendous naivety. Besides which, nothing has truly fallen apart yet. The only thing close to it is the meat production system in the US which it turns out was massively overcentralised.

It's been a rollercoaster off a time lately. When it first started I was picking up 1.5kg bone in tomahawk ribeyes for around $22, there was a massive run on chicken but that didnt bother me. Then the surplus briskets and pork butts hit the market since bbq joints closed. Decent sized briskets ran about $40. Next up was pork ribs both baby back and spare. Now unless you go to proper butcher, at the stores you can only get ground beef & turkey, flank steak and other random cuts.

[Raoul Duke III]

Shes a shadow of her former self . Daburd needs to step down

she tried! Not her fault her successor committed political suicide.

Still a towering political figure of the last two decades though.

[Raoul Duke III]

Any thoughts on where you will live in Dublin Hitch - head back out to Howth or somewhere new?

[Raoul Duke III]

A rather risky transfer right there of quite a lot of cash to the Dublin French school for the kids despite not yet having a job in Dublin. Hopefully if we don't get to go they'll use the money for a good cause like stocking up on confit de canard in advance of the next epidemic wave.

good to know my pillaging of Carrefour last summer put me ahead of the curve

[rounders123]

Why is everything they make only mild? It that something unique to the Irish palate, or is that all they make? Don't think I've ever seen a non-mild kit.

I reckon just because it sells better. A lot of people dont like hot or too spicy the weirdos. Yeah were similar to those scandi countries in that respect. Hot is just not in the culture or bloodline Bull McCabe style.Climatic thing too. Thats why all that hot stuff is from warm climes.

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[shrapnel]

Any thoughts on where you will live in Dublin Hitch - head back out to Howth or somewhere new?

good luck getting the kids to school from Howth

[hotspur]

I meant to setup a thread months ago about the predictions of how things would pan out. Would be interesting to look back on.

Will some of the current effects stay with us?
I think people have a lot of habits that they haven't previously considered. Now, people will have broken all sorts of consumer habits, will they pick them back up?

I'm very confident that people will lap up everything that they didn't get to indulge in with zeal.

[Mellor]

I think a great portion of political leaders, particularly those who made a full career of it, are likely to be sociopathic to varying extents. There's no clinical difference between psychopathy and sociopathy - we just use the latter for more minor transgressions.

Probably. A lot of CEO’s too apparently, the traits would certainly align well bit big corporate business.
But having sociopathic/psychopathic tendencies is not the same as being a psychopath. You need to have multiple traits. I can’t remember the numbers, but a majority is needed.

He deliberately caused a famine in India!!! wtf.

He no doubt contributed to the famine in India - at the height of WW2. There’s much more to psychopathy than that.

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[Solksjaer!]

Gandhi. Is he still alive ? WC. I hate I share his initials

[Guest]

Foxrock it will have to be due to the kids school. Bit of a nightmare getting to Ballymun every day, but the idea would be to not go there very often. Although I will omit that point in the interview.

Oh are you coming back to us?! I thought Trinners. We prefer to call it Glasnevin btw.

[Theresa]

Most of this forum have some psychopathic traits I’d imagine. More than the average human.

It was built on the foundations of risk taking.
Grandiose senses of self.
Taking money off degens and it being part of the game.

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[rounders123]

Sounds like a good article but behind a pay wall.

I could have done more': Former Ireland player Matt Mostyn looks back at highs and lows of rugby career

Matt Mostyn doesn't talk about his rugby career much nowadays.

At his home in Sydney, there are few reminders of his past life, except for the handful of jerseys that are stored away safely, along with the man-of-the-match award he won following his hat-trick on his second Ireland appearance.

As much as the memorabilia is hidden from view, Mostyn's sense of what might have been is unavoidable, and for all that he has many regrets, he doesn't blame anyone but himself for not making more of a career that had promised so much.

[Keane]

No sign of Brady or PSV lately?

[6starpool]

Well have the interview on June 10th so we'll see. A choice of five of us to pick from. I easily beat the internal candidate and there's unlikely to be shenanigans on that front, but no idea who the other three are, maybe one of them is an unbeatable brexitfugee. There's so few of these positions that open up as its full prof, as maybe one every few years across all the unis in finance, so just need to apply for whichever pops up first. I know a guy in UCD whose only hope of promotion is that one of two full profs die, so he laughs in an uncomfortable way about encouraging them to make unhealthy lunch choices to hasten their demise. My pal in [Glasnevin] was going around the department gauging opinion and he said it was maybe a 50:50 split between enthusiasts for my hiring and those whose faces looked as if they were recalling deep negative emotional connections with my name. Might have to write off a few things from the last sejour there to youthful indiscretion. The main problem being collapsing the Masters I was running from 90 students when I took it over to 20 when I left. People seem to have memories like fucking elephants about the dude who lost them over a million in annual recurring revenues. I also vaguely recall disappearing for a few months and leaving some sort of administrative nightmare, but have forgotten the details.

You should sell it to them in those terms in the interview, how could it possibly go wrong?

[dobby]

British premier League is scheduled to restart on 17th June.

No such thing as the British Premier League m8. Not the one you're referring to anyway. It's just called the Premier League, like La Liga is in Spain, Serie A in Italy or Ligue 1 in France, or English Premier League as some League of Ireland diehards like to call it in an inferiority complex kinda way.

[eagle eye]

Finished Upload, enoyed it. We've now started watching Defending Jacob and it's very enjoyable too.

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[oleras]

Chinese don't mince their words.

[Solksjaer!]

Chinese don't mince their words.

Finally there is SOMETHING they dont mince .

[eagle eye]

Could easily have been absolute shite, but the cast just kinda clicked together.

Upload? Yeah the cast is very good. It's certainly something different. Love all the little things like the condoms and ratings, they made it enjoyable for me.

[SatNav]

Finally finished garden. Needed new table and chairs. Ordered click and collect last night on jysk . Woke up this morning everything half price so I was absolutely thrilled. Highly recommend the out door rug a steal at 17. 99. Kinda sponge texture. Up and down the town then buying shite to add to it all. A fucking fortune spent this week but well spent. I'm loving my little space here and this weather!!

[V for Vendetta]

Anyone move their pensions away from ETFs and into cash or other commodities before things really kicked off?

Had and interesting chat recently with a colleague who's a couple of years off retirement. She got burned in the last GFC with most of her fund mixed across various ETFs per the standard portfolio from the company's pension advisers. However this January she dumped the balance of ETFs into cash before Covid took off globally. She reckons its a not so insignificant difference in the order of 5 figures saved. Granted at this stage of her pension much of it was already moved out of ETFs automatically. I still thought it was interesting how much she saved. The ironic thing was the pension advisers telling her that she pays more attention to her pension that their team of "experts".

What a load of bolllix. Is she planning on buying an annuity or investing in an ARF once she retires?

If it’s an annuity she’s liability mismatched by being in cash versus bonds and credit, if it’s an ARF I hope she times her reentry point into markets with just as much market timing skills.

[Raoul Duke III]

I'm very confident that people will lap up everything that they didn't get to indulge in with zeal.

especially those who have been, ahem, separated from the joys of the flesh

[SatNav]

Jesus the day gets better proud mama!

[coillcam]

What a load of bolllix. Is she planning on buying an annuity or investing in an ARF once she retires?

If it’s an annuity she’s liability mismatched by being in cash versus bonds and credit, if it’s an ARF I hope she times her reentry point into markets with just as much market timing skills.

What should she be doing here or is it pie in the sky stuff that she's been talking in the first place? I'm new enough to pensions tbf and haven't changed mine as there's so little in it at this point. My only understanding prior to the conversation was that at her default plan already would have moved most of fund into low risk, low yield situations as she nears retirement. Therefore there shouldn't have been too much much of a spike with a market drop. So when she said it was "definitely" 5 figures in the difference it caught my attention. She didn't say whether she'd have an annuity or ARF but based on how afraid she was of losing money I'd expect her to go for an annuity.

How does the mismatch work for cash on an annuity? Is it basically that normal inflation would potentially make the cash worth significantly less down the road vs bonds/credit which accrue gradually with the market?

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[Hectorjelly]

A colleague from Ghana just had a kid called Kojo, so I looked up the name and see its part of the Ghanaian tradition of naming your kid after the day of the week they are born on. Kojo meaning Monday, and the famous Kofi Annan presumably born on a Friday.

There's an interesting section on the page linked above for naming kids if they are born under 'special circumstances'. If you meet an Afúom he was born in a field, and a poor unfortunate Obím̀pέ means the father refused responsibility.

That's fascinating.

[Hectorjelly]

Yes.

Imagine asking Lenin that a hundred years ago though.

Whoo-hoo, we have a winner. Game over.

How does it work in a world where there are almost no jobs? How does it work when the planet faces an existential threat?

[Raoul Duke III]

How does it work in a world where there are almost no jobs? How does it work when the planet faces an existential threat?

Well,we live in a world when there are more jobs than ever before so that first one seems purely rhetorical.

The existential threat presumably is global warming? Interestingly it's a communist country that is the most appalling polluter.