Bad beat/Moaning/Venting thread - It's the end of the world as we know it

[dobby]

Etto hit the spot. Chorizo and Hake croquettes for starter, rabbit for me, hake for Mrs for mains and obviously the cheese for dessert.

Pre and post pints in O Donoghues made for a fine afternoon.

2 American lads asked for a photo to be taken in front of the Guinnesss sign in O Donoghues so I gave 1 of them my pint to hold for the photo. And he popped in to the bar and came back with another pint ended up having a nice chat for an hour with them.

[Theresa]

If we get a United Ireland will McIroy finally play for Ireland in olympics? The oul fence sitting cunt.

[Silver-Tiger]

Eh

[MysteryGuest]

If we get a United Ireland will McIroy finally play for Ireland in olympics? The oul fence sitting cunt.

He represented Ireland last time and was in a playoff for bronze

think it was a 5 man play off on 1 hole or last 3 holes something crazy like that

[MysteryGuest]

Spud shortages incoming

[DeadParrot]

Yeah, they added on the resort part a few years ago. Just seems odd seeing it written down. Our parents used to take us swimming there when we were kids. Tis a fine spot in a savage area.

Could take a stroll down to the Europe for lunch. I'm 99% sure there's a woodland, paved walkway between the 2 hotels. You wouldn't regret it.

I spent a bomb on chowder and 2 pints in the muckross last time we were here.
The wife still wistfully reminds me of it.

[Theresa]

He represented Ireland last time and was in a playoff for bronze

think it was a 5 man play off on 1 hole or last 3 holes something crazy like that

Listen, I'm absolutely not here for facts.

[Denny Crane]

At the very least, it's now a different perspective.

For decades, it was easy to call for Irish reunification - because there was no real prospect of it actually happening. So it was easy to call for it as a 'good thing' with no real costs involved.

Now, it's actually something that is imaginable in a real sense. so it's entirely reasonable to start asking hard questions about cost, modalities, processes. When you start putting that lens on it, the entire conversation shifts from something fuzzy and desirable to something achievable - but that is really hard and has huge costs attached. And that will totally change the character of the state itself.

Worth the price to get a few more protestants imo

[dobby]

I spent a bomb on chowder and 2 pints in the muckross last time we were here.
The wife still wistfully reminds me of it.

If you're looking for a chipper at some point. For yourself, not the wife and kid/s, DenJoes is the spot to hit. Every single time I go home, I make time to pop in. Snack box with curry and stuffing. Unreal

[Micknail]

Football, Bloody hell!

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

3 Body Problem is a heck of a show!

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

Those figures on United Ireland are nonsense. Even the authors admit 'it doesn't take into account any changes in productivity'. There would be a decent crossover period - a decade plus where the UK would retain some responsibilities, so it would be eased in and we would be able to direct jobs up there - i.e. boost productivity. You'd probably early-retire 100k public sector workers there too - with the UK on the hook for those pensions. That would shrink the obligations side. Its also not like 20bn would just disappear - most money spent ends up creating far more money than was spent. This is all economists trying to stop things happen based on bad maths. We need to get up to around 20m people on the island to be able to do fun things, this is a handy 2m in the bag on that glorious journey.

[Lao Lao]

Opportunity is the definition of romance? I stopped reading after that.

new political party - me feiners .

Democracy decides . I only hope the economy , standard of living pearl clutchers are the minorities .

And yes we are in the EU, we Will be supported..

If the banking crises showed us anything , its that doom mongers bask in pessimism.

You should read it again as that's not what I said.

If you also actually read some of the other posts I've made on the subject. I've said I love the idea of a united Ireland but I'm not sure of how it actually plays out practically, no me fein in there. It's called being pragmatic rather than running off on a romantic whim.

And as for your reference to the banking crisis. Sweet Jesus, that resulted in the most severe austerity measures that effected millions of people, most of them the worst off in society and the impact is still being felt. If the banking crisis showed us anything it's that we can't afford to pay out 10's of billions of euro and for it not to have a severe impact on the basic needs of people.

[zuutroy]

Not sure I would care that much if they told us that the North was being made part of Djibouti and they were digging a mile wide trench across the border filled with piranhas. Everything is becoming so globalised now that it will just come down to money.

[6starpool]

Any chance we can get the land, but evict all the people up there first?

[Solksjaer!]

You should read it again as that's not what I said.

If you also actually read some of the other posts I've made on the subject. I've said I love the idea of a united Ireland but I'm not sure of how it actually plays out practically, no me fein in there. It's called being pragmatic rather than running off on a romantic whim.

And as for your reference to the banking crisis. Sweet Jesus, that resulted in the most severe austerity measures that effected millions of people, most of them the worst off in society and the impact is still being felt. If the banking crisis showed us anything it's that we can't afford to pay out 10's of billions of euro and for it not to have a severe impact on the basic needs of people.

I read it , i laughed.

Austerity or obesity ? Tell me how they suffered . Actually don't , I can imagine the exaggeration.(millions?) Those you mentioned didnt foot the bill, you or I did.

We are supposedly flying now according to you boys and yet the homeless rates are way higher than the dark Victorian times you mention.

Romance is wanting a United Ireland for the glory of it

Opportunity is what it will present. i agree with HH post but I'll repeat. You obviously ( the plural) don't seem to grasp the upside. Just like the bank crises , just doom and gloom, and yet here we are.
Our corporate taxes might be keeping us flying but that well is exposed .

Happy Friday .

[Solksjaer!]

Any chance we can get the land, but evict all the people up there first?

And a few down here .

[Micknail]

I see this is now a tv show:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8230448/

[Raoul Duke III]

I see this is now a tv show:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8230448/

Yes! I am holding off until I can binge it but there's no way it can come anywhere close to the book.

[Raoul Duke III]

I read it , i laughed.

Austerity or obesity ? Tell me how they suffered . Actually don't , I can imagine the exaggeration.(millions?) Those you mentioned didnt foot the bill, you or I did.

We are supposedly flying now according to you boys and yet the homeless rates are way higher than the dark Victorian times you mention.

Romance is wanting a United Ireland for the glory of it

Opportunity is what it will present. i agree with HH post but I'll repeat. You obviously ( the plural) don't seem to grasp the upside. Just like the bank crises , just doom and gloom, and yet here we are.
Our corporate taxes might be keeping us flying but that well is exposed .

Happy Friday .

AKA the 'sure it'll be grand' doctrine.

[Solksjaer!]

AKA the 'sure it'll be grand' doctrine.

Naw, i'm the opposite to being a doom merchant despite being a UTD fan. Listen , I know you privileged lot are worried about your kingdoms but just vote YES when you get a chance . Sure AI is gonna get us all anyway , dont be afraid of the nordies.

[6starpool]

And a few down here .

Since we're choosing, it'd be a shame not to. Plenty we could bin off. Between the 7m or so on the island, bound to be 5m or so that you'd want to have in the country. Ship the rest off to Rwanda, be grand.

[Strewelpeter]

The problem now is that up until 2016 there was no argument but that, in the context of the GFA and EU any discussion of realignment to an all island state was a complete irrelevance and the preserve of the wrap the green flag round me troglodytes whose real agenda is triumphalism and the ethnic cleansing of the unionist population.

Brexit has fucked that royally and unless all sides in the north work together determinedly to take advantage of their unique status vis a vis EU/UK there will be little choice for Dublin but to take on the challenge of creating some sort of realignment which at the moment looks all cost and no benefit to anyone.

Still waiting to hear any nationalist provide a coherent explanation of how they are going to persuade a majority of the million British people to vote to join with them?

[Raoul Duke III]

This article does a wonderful job of reconfirming my abhorrence of cruises and the people who go on them (Zuut excepted). Sounds like hell.

[dinekes]

3 Body Problem is a heck of a show!

Yep...on episode 4 myself

Started Humans also

Re watching Friends ...great writing in fairness

[Raoul Duke III]

We just had a poll in work: who had ever heard of Big Tom. Results were 50/50. Animals!

[Raoul Duke III]

Naw, i'm the opposite to being a doom merchant despite being a UTD fan. Listen , I know you privileged lot are worried about your kingdoms but just vote YES when you get a chance . Sure AI is gonna get us all anyway , dont be afraid of the nordies.

Half my family are Nordies. I know why we don't want 'em.

[6starpool]

We just had a poll in work: who had ever heard of Big Tom. Results were 50/50. Animals!

Generational gap I presume? Under 40's largely never heard of him, over 40's had? I presume foreigners weren't part of the polling sample though.

[zuutroy]

This article does a wonderful job of reconfirming my abhorrence of cruises and the people who go on them (Zuut excepted). Sounds like hell.

Can't read it all. Yes, the general chaos wouldn't be for me either. The trick is to use cruise lines that have what's called a 'ship within a ship' concept. We go with NCL who have something called The Haven, which is an area that only approx 250 people have access to, that has its own restaurant, bar, lounge, and pool/sundeck, and they escort you on and off the ship through crew routes. It's a much more relaxed affair and you can dip in and out of the other amenities on the ship as you see fit. Royal Caribbean don't do that so I wouldn't book with them.

[Raoul Duke III]

Generational gap I presume? Under 40's largely never heard of him, over 40's had? I presume foreigners weren't part of the polling sample though.

The Indian guy on the team was fascinated by the whole culture of Irish c&w. He's just bought a house in Kildare so we told him he needed to sign up for line dancing.

[Raoul Duke III]

Can't read it all. Yes, the general chaos wouldn't be for me either. The trick is to use cruise lines that have what's called a 'ship within a ship' concept. We go with NCL who have something called The Haven, which is an area that only approx 250 people have access to, that has its own restaurant, bar, lounge, and pool/sundeck, and they escort you on and off the ship through crew routes. It's a much more relaxed affair and you can dip in and out of the other amenities on the ship as you see fit. Royal Caribbean don't do that so I wouldn't book with them.

That sounds like 'shit but not quite as shit'.

When I become world uberfuhrer, I'll amuse my dinner guests with the chance to order a missile strike on cruise ships. Then we'll get Ronnie Drew impersonator Solks in for an after-dinner musical revue. If he's bad, we'll throw axes at him.

[Goodluck2me]

Still waiting to hear any nationalist provide a coherent explanation of how they are going to persuade a majority of the million British people to vote to join with them?

Chances of personal economic prosperity much higher in Ireland than in GB, a much better run country where religious ethos is becoming less and less relevant and therefore higher standard of living versus what they currently experience.

I would also like to see a UI for the sports, we might actually have a better chance of qualifying for a few soccer tournaments

[zuutroy]

A nice small resort with excellent food and unlimited top shelf gargle, kids can roam the whole ship untethered, and a new place to explore every morning. What's shit about that?!

[Lao Lao]

I read it , i laughed.

Austerity or obesity ? Tell me how they suffered . Actually don't , I can imagine the exaggeration.(millions?) Those you mentioned didnt foot the bill, you or I did.

We are supposedly flying now according to you boys and yet the homeless rates are way higher than the dark Victorian times you mention.

Romance is wanting a United Ireland for the glory of it

Opportunity is what it will present. i agree with HH post but I'll repeat. You obviously ( the plural) don't seem to grasp the upside. Just like the bank crises , just doom and gloom, and yet here we are.
Our corporate taxes might be keeping us flying but that well is exposed .

Happy Friday .

You're ranting like a loon now and seem to be confusing me with somebody else?

When did I say we are flying it now or mention Victorian times?

I'm well aware of the homeless issue having spent over three years running a soup run. Some of the shit that I saw over that time period will haunt me forever and it exposed just how badly the resources (or lack of resources) were for people who needed it the most.

Everybody foot the bill for the bank bail out in terms of additional taxes - Introduction of USC - remember that? but people who were less well off paid more through a withdrawal or a reduction of essential public services.

What was the upside of the banking crises in your opinion?

Romantic Ireland is dead and gone Solks, it's with O'Leary in the grave!

[Solksjaer!]

You're ranting like a loon now and seem to be confusing me with somebody else?

When did I say we are flying it now or mention Victorian times?

I'm well aware of the homeless issue having spent over three years running a soup run. Some of the shit that I saw over that time period will haunt me forever and it exposed just how badly the resources (or lack of resources) were for people who needed it the most.

Everybody foot the bill for the bank bail out in terms of additional taxes - Introduction of USC - remember that? but people who were less well off paid more through a withdrawal or a reduction of essential public services.

What was the upside of the banking crises in your opinion?

Romantic Ireland is dead and gone Solks, it's with O'Leary in the grave!

This is possible .

[Hectorjelly]

Romantic Ireland is dead and gone Solks, it's with O'Leary in the grave!

I reread that poem recently, i'd totally forgotten it's meaning: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poe...september-1913

Something I've been thinking about recently is whether Ireland would have been better off in the 50s/60s still part of the Union; we became a pretty miserable theocracy. Women's rights, in particular, were far behind those in GB. Of course, we're doing a lot better now.

[Raoul Duke III]

A nice small resort with excellent food and unlimited top shelf gargle, kids can roam the whole ship untethered, and a new place to explore every morning. What's shit about that?!

Pretty much everything.

[FeetMagic]

Yes! I am holding off until I can binge it but there's no way it can come anywhere close to the book.

It must be you I have to thank for the recommendation then. That book, narrowly ahead of two others of his, Rules of Civility & The Lincoln Highway, offered possibly the most engaging plot lines and characters I've had the pleasure to read to date. His newest book, of short stories, was just released in the past few days. Chasing more of his collection in the library also serendipitously led me to Miriam Toews whose novel Fight Night challenges Towles for highly immersive writing!

[Solksjaer!]

I reread that poem recently, i'd totally forgotten it's meaning: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poe...september-1913

Something I've been thinking about recently is whether Ireland would have been better off in the 50s/60s still part of the Union; we became a pretty miserable theocracy. Women's rights, in particular, were far behind those in GB. Of course, we're doing a lot better now.

How dare you assume their gender .

[Theresa]

Apples strategy when it comes to app developers and monetisation is well known, but they really need to get slapped down.

30% of gross sales is nuts. (even 15% for start ups is nuts).
Inconsistent guidelines and reviews. We've recently been told we can't use promo codes to discount in app purchases (incentivising purchases where apple gets it cut btw).
You can "apply" for an "entitlement" to make your users aware of better pricing and options while they are in the app. Otherwise you need to have no mention of any way to pay other than the in app purchases (where apple gets their 15%).
Strategic ambiguity around jursidictional rules, for example, you can only make users aware of better pricing and link out to your website on the US appstorefront. Not anywhere else, this practically makes it not worth it.

Their guidelines are ambiguous enough, and their reviewers never deal with specifics. This has to be a strategy to avoid any gotcha's they themselves might say when dealing with their confusing guidelines.

Its all very grifty. I applaud the ecosystem and I genuinely think I'd pay 10% and never think about it again but 15% rising to 30% if you get successful is egregious.

All it does is incentivize people to find ways around the apple cut, of which there are so many for anyone with a clue how the whole process works.

Here is hoping they get slapped around by a court with power at some point.

[zuutroy]

A $2 Trillion company behaving purely in their own interest? Good heavens!

[thechamp87]

Raoul Duke III I’ve just ordered an Ooni pizza oven and various basic accessories.
Could you please share the recipe you use for dough? +any dough-related accessories I’ll need. Tyvm

[Theresa]

A $2 Trillion company behaving purely in their own interest? Good heavens!

Yeah no one is surprised, but for capitalism to work, this shit needs to be slapppppped around.

[Raoul Duke III]

Raoul Duke III I’ve just ordered an Ooni pizza oven and various basic accessories.
Could you please share the recipe you use for dough? +any dough-related accessories I’ll need. Tyvm

Welcome to the club.

My dough recipe is:
600ml warm water
1000g '00 flour
6g yeast
25g salt

1. Dissolve the salt in the warm water in a large bowl.
2. Add 1/3 of the flour, mix in by hand (you could use a food processor, I prefer not to)
3. Add another 1/3 plus the yeast, mix by hand
4. Add the last 1/3, form into a big ball and tip onto a smooth surface
5. Knead by hand until smooth and supple, takes about 5 mins
6. Form into a ball and put a wet t-towel on top, leave for 2 hours
7. Use a dough cutter to cut into 8 pieces
8. Shape these into balls (this become your pizzas) and put in a dough box or similar)
9. Leave for about another 1-2hours before baking!
10. Make pizzas

tbh, you're better off to watch any of the many vidoes online and find a recipe that works for you. It took me a few gos to get it working well. You will fuck it up at the start, that's pretty much guaranteed.

For me, essential tools are a turning peel, a dough cutter and a decent pizza wheel. And a decent launching peel (I find a wooden one better and less sticky).

[thechamp87]

Welcome to the club.

My dough recipe is:
600ml warm water
1000g '00 flour
6g yeast
25g salt

1. Dissolve the salt in the warm water in a large bowl.
2. Add 1/3 of the flour, mix in by hand (you could use a food processor, I prefer not to)
3. Add another 1/3 plus the yeast, mix by hand
4. Add the last 1/3, form into a big ball and tip onto a smooth surface
5. Knead by hand until smooth and supple, takes about 5 mins
6. Form into a ball and put a wet t-towel on top, leave for 2 hours
7. Use a dough cutter to cut into 8 pieces
8. Shape these into balls (this become your pizzas) and put in a dough box or similar)
9. Leave for about another 1-2hours before baking!
10. Make pizzas

tbh, you're better off to watch any of the many vidoes online and find a recipe that works for you. It took me a few gos to get it working well. You will fuck it up at the start, that's pretty much guaranteed.

For me, essential tools are a turning peel, a dough cutter and a decent pizza wheel. And a decent launching peel (I find a wooden one better and less sticky).

Excellent, thanks a mill! Did you say before you can freeze the dough balls? V handy if so.

Had ordered a couple of those accessories so we’re on the right track. Will report back…

[MysteryGuest]

I can’t be the only one who couldn’t finish gentleman in moscow
The guy can write but it was a twee fairytale for adults-then again I’m really not a fan of those books that flatten dark historical events/periods of history to make soft westerners feel good about themselves (like all those violinist of auschwitz, egg collector of stalingrad,tea cup seller of Kabul type books, )

[MysteryGuest]

Bob Dylan - time out of mind album- I finally get him

[Raoul Duke III]

Excellent, thanks a mill! Did you say before you can freeze the dough balls? V handy if so.

Had ordered a couple of those accessories so we’re on the right track. Will report back…

You can freeze them although I never have. The leftover ones just get used the next day (I wrap them in clingfilm and put them in the fridge).

Pizza sauce...now there's a rabbit hole you can throw yourself down.

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

No idea where 3 Body Problem is going, but jesus its a next in terms of storybuilding

[DeadParrot]

I spent a bomb on chowder and 2 pints in the muckross last time we were here.
The wife still wistfully reminds me of it.

Haha, she tried to surprise us and booked the same for 3pm today.
She booked the wrong place so we are sitting in colgans as its literally only punters.
I think they opened especially as well

[Strewelpeter]

I can’t be the only one who couldn’t finish gentleman in moscow
The guy can write but it was a twee fairytale for adults-then again I’m really not a fan of those books that flatten dark historical events/periods of history to make soft westerners feel good about themselves (like all those violinist of auschwitz, egg collector of stalingrad,tea cup seller of Kabul type books, )

I finished it but I didn't like it, much preferred the Lincoln Highway.

I've got a cracker of a book for you :

Him by Geoff Ryman

Ignore the unavoidable tagline - Trans Jesus - yeah, it is an accurate precis of what the story is but its very much more than that. Ryman is a sci fi writer and this is a sci fi / speculative historical fiction cross.

[DeadParrot]

Haha, she tried to surprise us and booked the same for 3pm today.
She booked the wrong place so we are sitting in colgans as its literally only punters.
I think they opened especially as well

Same kitchen, or at least same recipe.
They do a mean chowder

[Silver-Tiger]

This is absolutely fantastic, blew through the audiobook in no time which has him narrating it

He grew up pretty poor but as some kind of maths prodigy which enabled him to end up at London School of Economics. He won a job on the trading desk with Citibank in a card based trading competition they used to hold every year. At one point he was the highest performing trader in the bank worldwide in his section doing billion dollar trades. The whole world and characters are so over the top and the stories so ridiculous that it makes for a very engaging story.

He has since turned to talking much more about inequality through what he learned from his time but the book isn't really about that and is more his story of his time in Citibank.

Good Q&A with him around the book.

Ah man. I loved this. Started last week. Flew through it. I'm usually wary of authors narrating books as there's no guarantee they are any good at it but it's absolutely perfect that it's him with that accent. You can hear the genuine venom in his opinions on some things and people. And the opposite when he adored something. I found it hilarious in parts too.

Thanks for the rec. Send on similar if you have any.

[Strewelpeter]

Front page news that RTE executives spent €175,000 on corporate credit cards over a five-year period.

We had a sales manager that outspent that in a 6 month blitz a couple of hears ago

[Raoul Duke III]

That's supernatural stuff by Gibson-Park for Leinster. Dupontesque.

[oleras]

Front page news that RTE executives spent €175,000 on corporate credit cards over a five-year period.

We had a sales manager that outspent that in a 6 month blitz a couple of hears ago

Was he spending public money and then moaning they dont have enough money ?

[ComradeCollie]

Was he spending public money and then moaning they dont have enough money ?

It's she, and it's really small stuff. Like a biggest items mentioned are about 1k, and one of those is for florists over 3 years.

She spent €40 on macaroons in the Dublin-based French bakery Laduree.

Ms Forbes used her RTÉ credit card to pay for subscriptions to the New York Times, the Financial Times, the Economist and the Irish Times.

[Keane]

Any more book recommendations folks? It's been a while since I added a good clatter to my reading list.

[MysteryGuest]

Apples strategy when it comes to app developers and monetisation is well known, but they really need to get slapped down.

30% of gross sales is nuts. (even 15% for start ups is nuts).
Inconsistent guidelines and reviews. We've recently been told we can't use promo codes to discount in app purchases (incentivising purchases where apple gets it cut btw).
You can "apply" for an "entitlement" to make your users aware of better pricing and options while they are in the app. Otherwise you need to have no mention of any way to pay other than the in app purchases (where apple gets their 15%).
Strategic ambiguity around jursidictional rules, for example, you can only make users aware of better pricing and link out to your website on the US appstorefront. Not anywhere else, this practically makes it not worth it.

Their guidelines are ambiguous enough, and their reviewers never deal with specifics. This has to be a strategy to avoid any gotcha's they themselves might say when dealing with their confusing guidelines.

Its all very grifty. I applaud the ecosystem and I genuinely think I'd pay 10% and never think about it again but 15% rising to 30% if you get successful is egregious.

All it does is incentivize people to find ways around the apple cut, of which there are so many for anyone with a clue how the whole process works.

Here is hoping they get slapped around by a court with power at some point.

It should incentivise you to make the biz more successful to overcome apples cut.
you need to be more confidential in your business

[Theresa]

It should incentivise you to make the biz more successful to overcome apples cut.
you need to be more confidential in your business

I am very confidential in the business playa.