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Breaking Bad
SPOILERwhat a great episode. the tent idea is just genius. never have i watched a show where it has gotten better through the seasons or at least be on a level peak as far as five seasons. Skyler needs to be taken out Mike will have none of it and ya might aswell take Marie with herairport, lol
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Originally posted by Bubbleking View Postsound might head down tonight or tomorrow. What time is kick off?airport, lol
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Originally posted by Micknail View PostI was going to advocate a ban on that country entering the next games,
or a ban on entering that event next games,
but I suppose that would likely punish a wholly different competitor.
Banning and retrospectively stripping medals from the offender means little when the only fanfare they ever get is during this month, and are then quickly forgotten in many cases.
First two resolutions would probably see a serious change in attitude for many countries toward doping.
There was a brilliant documentary by RTE on this about 8 years ago, can't for the life of me remember what it was called unfortunately."Worldly wisdom teaches that it is better for reputation to fail conventionally than to succeed unconventionally." - John Maynard Keynes
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Originally posted by LuckyLloyd View PostLook, to be honest the reality is that we possibly exceeded the limits of natural human performance in a multitude of events decades ago. Barring complete and utter freak specimens like Bolt and Phelps, it's unlikely that records can be smashed through clean living and hard training alone. A completely drug free athletic landscape would be very, very different to what we have now. Whether people like to admit it or not they love bigger, stronger, fitter and faster and that desire drives the lengths competitors from all over will go to.
There was a brilliant documentary by RTE on this about 8 years ago, can't for the life of me remember what it was called unfortunately.﴾͡๏̯͡๏﴿
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I find the ticketing scandal absolutely infuriating. I got my tickets for an Olympic Hockey session sorted a few weeks ago when a friend offered them as a gift - they entered the lottery for a bunch of events and received tickets they didn't want / couldn't attend because of work and have been trying to give them away since. A friend of mine decided to jump on a ferry on Friday evening and get over to London in the hope of grabbing a ticket for anything and get into the Olympic Village. Was unsuccessful in the endeavour - it simply wasn't possible to get one on the website yesterday morning, and you can't buy them outside the village, etc.
I realise that this is a massive organisational / I.T. problem, and people were likely to be disappointed to one extent or another no matter how the issue was tackled, but the website simply isn't up to scratch imo. The lottery system and multiple rounds of same made perfect sense. But coming up to this weekend, functionality for a daily list of unsold / resalable / returned tickets available for instant purchase on a first come, first served basis should have been in place. They are taking steps to address the empty seats now, but filling seats with soldiers to improve aesthetics kind of misses the point imo. You will have situations where more expensive seats are being filled with whatever off duty servicemen are around when diehard fans of the sport concerned are in the cheap seats at the same venue without being offered a move to the front first.
Though, from what I saw, everything else has been top class and it should be 'three cheers for London'. Getting around the city and getting help and directions in and around the venues has been sorted to an extremely impressive standard. The voluntary "gamesmakers" lining the approaches and exits to say "hello" or "goodbye" are undoubtedly strange, but still point to the huge effort and preparation on show. The information brochures you get with your tickets are very well done, and the citywide free travel pass for the day of your event is a nice touch.
Also, the media naysaying about London's transport network seems to be Y2K mark two. I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary London wise out and about over the weekend or going to Heathrow during rush hour this morning.
Finally (and almost incidentally), I can confirm that playing International hockey can do wonders for a woman's figure - a few fine looking players on the USA and GB teams. GB lack cutting edge and will get murdered by any decent team that presses them hard imo, so there could be a few quid made laying them. Germany on the other hand were solid at the back and had a ton of cutting edge up front - will be tough to beat."Worldly wisdom teaches that it is better for reputation to fail conventionally than to succeed unconventionally." - John Maynard Keynes
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The gymnastics is nuts. I recall doing gymnastics as a kid briefly, should have been me.
Think it was mostly forward roles.X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostPopular westerners = Freaks
Chinese = cheats
It is what it is"Worldly wisdom teaches that it is better for reputation to fail conventionally than to succeed unconventionally." - John Maynard Keynes
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Originally posted by Teddie View PostNeither.Originally posted by Dice75 View PostIs the Palace not a youngish crowd?
Not sure though.
What's so bad about the both? Will just be a get together for a late drinks to round a night off and won't be anything funky or special planned
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Originally posted by Flushdraw View Post
/LazareX can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostPopular westerners = Freaks
Chinese = cheats
It is what it isProfit before people.
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Originally posted by Flushdraw View Post
Keoghs on St Anne street is nice!
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Originally posted by KevIRL View PostChaos in the gymnastics.X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by Flushdraw View PostWon't be heading to either till after 11pm anyway. We're a youngish crowd
What's so bad about the both? Will just be a get together for a late drinks to round a night off and won't be anything funky or special planned
Palace crowd is about 18-21, also think you have to pay in before hand. Cafe en Seine is just crammed with absolute muppets. Haven't been in ages but the door staff can be very picky as well.
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Originally posted by The-Rigger View PostBBC a replay of RTE? Or are you on some weird red buttons, thought the gymnastics coverage had stopped.
Japan appealed the scoring for the last guy successfully. Just confirmed that they the appeal was successful and GBR down to bronze with Japan up to silver.
Correct decision to my untrained eye. Amazing tension while the whole thing was sorted.
The crowd going nuts booing now, where they really should be celebrating an unlikely bronze.
Poor Ukranians are distraught as they have had their bronze taken away from them.
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Originally posted by KevIRL View PostChaos in the gymnastics.Originally posted by KevIRL View PostBBC3
Japan appealed the scoring for the last guy successfully. Just confirmed that they the appeal was successful and GBR down to bronze with Japan up to silver.
Correct decision to my untrained eye. Amazing tension while the whole thing was sorted.
The crowd going nuts booing now, where they really should be celebrating an unlikely bronze.
Poor Ukranians are distraught as they have had their bronze taken away from them.X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by The Situation View PostYou're the only one that seems to be obsessed with the race issue here. If she was from anywhere i'd be doubting her. Her times have dramatically improved from what she was previously achieving. With the likes of Phelps you can see a natural progression and improvement over time with no freaky swings in the curve. A high up US coach (embarrassingly for us) has compared her to Michelle Smith in Atlanta!
Look if she's assumed to be a cheat based on this evidence we have seen then Phelps must be too. That there isn't a sudden spike in his numbers would mean nothing more than his team are aware that any spike would cause him to be tainted.
TBH I have very little interest in the particular case I'm much more interested to find out what possible miraculous substances are out there that can create this kind of performance that can get past state of the art chemical analysis.
I just don't understand what they could be that could have such an effect on someone to put them that far ahead of the field. I remain to be convinced that its right to all these substances banned.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Percy007 View PostThe deal has been agreed between the clubs but Carroll hasnt agreed to it...............yet.
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Originally posted by The Situation View PostYou're the only one that seems to be obsessed with the race issue here. If she was from anywhere i'd be doubting her. Her times have dramatically improved from what she was previously achieving. With the likes of Phelps you can see a natural progression and improvement over time with no freaky swings in the curve. A high up US coach (embarrassingly for us) has compared her to Michelle Smith in Atlanta!
Not sure why you'd be doubting her and not everyone else. She's be around for two years an has been putting in very good times. Also I just don't get the comparison to Lochte as some massive sign, he's not a sprinter. When Rebbeca Adlington won Gold in 4 years ago in the 800 free style her last 50m split was even 28.91, even fast then Shiwen yet I don't remember everyone calling her a cheat or even coming close to suggesting it.Last edited by Teddie; 30-07-12, 18:52.
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Originally posted by Teddie View PostNot sure why you'd be doubting her and not everyone else. She's be around for two years an has been putting in very good times. Also I just don't get the comparison to Lochte as some massive sign, he's not a sprinter.
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Originally posted by Opr View PostSo is the club just feeding these stories in the hope of forcing certain players out? Aquilani's agent has said it's completely impossible that Fiorentina could meet his clients wages but yet the BBC reported earlier we have agreed a fee.
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Originally posted by ghostface View PostDid she not swim the last 100m in a faster time than the male record holder in that event? I may be sightly confusing that as wasn't paying proper attention to the radio
This was Lochte's split for the freestyle end of his 400m and she outswam him (although he wasn't under any pressure)
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostAnd we have studied the progression of this 16 year old yea?
Look if she's assumed to be a cheat based on this evidence we have seen then Phelps must be too. That there isn't a sudden spike in his numbers would mean nothing more than his team are aware that any spike would cause him to be tainted.
TBH I have very little interest in the particular case I'm much more interested to find out what possible miraculous substances are out there that can create this kind of performance that can get past state of the art chemical analysis.
I just don't understand what they could be that could have such an effect on someone to put them that far ahead of the field. I remain to be convinced that its right to all these substances banned."Worldly wisdom teaches that it is better for reputation to fail conventionally than to succeed unconventionally." - John Maynard Keynes
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Originally posted by ghostface View PostDid she not swim the last 100m in a faster time than the male record holder in that event? I may be sightly confusing that as wasn't paying proper attention to the radio
And? It's 400m race, you can hammer the first 300m and hope to hold off or you can go out easy and hope to push hard for the last 100m. Take the last 100m split and comparing to the mans is pointless. I could understand if the times for the over-all events were identical or even close, but there not.
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Originally posted by LuckyLloyd View PostIt has always been the case that the latest chemical aids are one step ahead of testing knowledge. See "Human Growth Hormone" on this.
Are they not all doing these kind of things as young people to build their frame before they are ever tested and then working to sustain it through diet and training?Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostSo we are mostly talking about substances that promote the growth of muscle mass. I thought there was no real short term benefits from hgh.
Are they not all doing these kind of things as young people to build their frame before they are ever tested and then working to sustain it through diet and training?
As for the second paragraph, she's 16."Worldly wisdom teaches that it is better for reputation to fail conventionally than to succeed unconventionally." - John Maynard Keynes
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In relation to the Chinese girls swimming performance surely we're ignoring the huge benefits of the selection program in China compared to how athletic talent is selected in advanced democratic economies.
Especially in relation to technical events with high barriers to entry the impact of identifying and selecting the person with the best genetic potential for the sport combined with the best nutritional and coaching advice could surely have a huge impact on a minority sport like swimming.
Not saying this is necessarily the case here but it's got to be considered.‘IF YOU had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.” Genghis Khan
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Originally posted by Flushdraw View Post
Please rectify this in future posts, as you are lifetilting him.
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Originally posted by Gimmeabreakget out of here with your semi rational slant on things.
I love the book/film Moneyball and the book fooled by randomness it makes you question all conventional unproven knowledge in life.....‘IF YOU had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.” Genghis Khan
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Originally posted by Gimmeabreakget out of here with your semi rational slant on things."Worldly wisdom teaches that it is better for reputation to fail conventionally than to succeed unconventionally." - John Maynard Keynes
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Is this swimming on BBC a repeat of earlier or live?X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by LuckyLloyd View PostFinally (and almost incidentally), I can confirm that playing International hockey can do wonders for a woman's figure - a few fine looking players on the USA and GB teams. GB lack cutting edge and will get murdered by any decent team that presses them hard imo, so there could be a few quid made laying them. Germany on the other hand were solid at the back and had a ton of cutting edge up front - will be tough to beat.
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Originally posted by Teddie View PostSwiss footballer Michel Morganella kicked off the Swiss team for posting this after they lost to South Korea
Obvious case of pot kettle.X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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