Bad beat/Moan/Venting Thread - BBV Archive 2

[colquhom]

lol wut? A huge amount of school exam systems are like the Leaving Cert - e.g. Scottish highers and International Baccalaureate to name just two - whereas essentially none are like the A-levels. There's a good reason why one system is far more popular than the other!

A-levels are like the Argos of the examination world. The Brits said 'we think this is what exams should look like', and the rest of the world went 'eh no'

My friend from Cork put it excellently,

"Do you know what? You caaaaannnoot trust an education system where the sum total amount of subjects they do for their A-Levels is the same amount of extra subjects we do for our leaving cert in Cork"

[tylerdurden94]

For those of you who don't leave the BBV have a read of this HERE

[Flushdraw]

Had to lol when i was looking through the nominees for the British Poker Awards and came across this

Reader's Choice: Poker Personality of the Year

Andrew Feldman
Kara Scott
Liv Boeree
Neil Channing
Vicky Coren

There's not 1 personality between the lot of them! No doubt Feldman will get it for his secret millionaire bs. Mike Lacey (shortstack) is up for 'Biggest contribution to growing & promoting poker' so would probably appreciate some votes

http://www.thebritishpokerawards.com/

[The Aul Switcharoo]

Nothing wrong with getting 360! I don't think i even cracked the 300 mark. We only got 7 subjects to play off in school, while others got 9/10. The whole class was fucking stupid tho, and even tho we were in the top class in school, only 1 guy did honours maths so obv got very very little dedicated time from the teacher

Never said there was anything wrong with 360 or less!

[carlop]

My friend from Cork put it excellently,

"Do you know what? You caaaaannnoot trust an education system where the sum total amount of subjects they do for their A-Levels is the same amount of extra subjects we do for our leaving cert in Cork"

This day of all days must be very hard for you.

[badugi]

The pokerstars world cup of poker qualifier set up has me tilted!
Anyone playing the qualifiers? no point, you wont get through.

I was going to make a thread about it but noones even playing them id say.
I posted this in general thread yesterday. its fking tilting!

this is a joke like.

"Each country will receive a score that is equal to their highest individual cash in each tournament. The team that has the best combined score across all four tournaments will win their group."

Ireland is in a group of 8 countries with Norway and Russia. Its your countries top finisher you get points for, but how can we compete when Russia is more than 80% the field in the qualifiers?!

http://www.pokerstars.com/wcp/qualify/#stage2

like a comparision even of wcoop entrants by country shows how little players we have comapred to Norway 15k Russia 27k and Ireland 3.5k!numbers here: http://www.pokerstars.com/wcoop/stats/

how the fuck does any other country in the group have a chance when Russia have 10 times the players in the qualifiers!
If you check the lobby for completed tournie in "regional" and scroll down the results, its clear that Russia have over three quarters of the 1232 entrants (if not more, could be closer to 90% of the field)
Ballox of a promo/league. Most countries have no chance!

[thedini]

I see Fabrice Muamba has retired from football on Medical Advice. I guess he didn't have the heart for the game. I guess it also means that Bolton will be looking for a new pacemaker in the middle of the park.

I've told many a bad joke but seriously???

[Strewelpeter]

, what a strange thing to wish for.

I'd love an opportunity to go back to college and do something interesting, instead of the unbelievably dull B.Comm that I did do. Almost pulled the trigger on History and Politics in TCD instead and talked myself out of it. But for that, there could be a picture of me in every house in the country and you would all bow before the radio as I made my weekly speeches to the nation.

No time like the present, there is no better excuse for getting out of this new fangled concept of doing housekeeping and child minding.

But seriously there are any number of great courses even in the uber dull world of finance that would be great to get your teeth into and would improve worklife as well.

[BallymoreChris]

Chris, my start date was set in stone & also the 6 days in the Hotel so had no choice

hmmm, I'm going to fly over on the Friday, if that's not my start day I wont be playing I guess. there is a £300 on friday & £1k on sat so its worth the trip.

Had to lol when i was looking through the nominees for the British Poker Awards and came across this

Reader's Choice: Poker Personality of the Year

Andrew Feldman
Kara Scott
Liv Boeree
Neil Channing
Vicky Coren

There's not 1 personality between the lot of them! No doubt Feldman will get it for his secret millionaire bs. Mike Lacey (shortstack) is up for 'Biggest contribution to growing & promoting poker' so would probably appreciate some votes

http://www.thebritishpokerawards.com/

Bit harsh, they have to pick someone, who would you suggest? The girls are nearly all going to get nominated every year.

I see Fabrice Muamba has retired from football on Medical Advice. I guess he didn't have the heart for the game. I guess it also means that Bolton will be looking for a new pacemaker in the middle of the park.

Word is God was a bit busy sorting out our Katie with her prayers and made a few mistakes fixing up Muamba's heart - suppose the world of twitter should have prayed a bit harder.

[eamonhonda]

good morning, is the storm done or what

[The Situation]

I've told many a bad joke but seriously???

He should be cardiac arrested for crimes against humour!

[Keane]

He should be cardiac arrested for crimes against humour!

Another vein attempt at a joke.

[pgodkin]

Tonight in the Showboat bar(in the back of it) is the only one that is dealer dealt - €50 + 5. Usually between 16 to 22 players. 8pm start

Kakak1 is the only regular poster who will be there. I think I have to give it a miss tonight

what about the casino's is there anything on in them tonight/tomorrow???

I'm actually busy applying to agencies now for jobs etc so have my 'work stuff' folder open beside me and just checked my LC results, 3 A1s, 1A2, C1 and C2 from my 6 honours subjects. Maths was the worst.

undoubtedly the peak of my formal academic career

I hate recuirment agencies with a passion they are by far the nut worst way to hire staff!! (no offence to RichieM) i applied for a job a few weeks back and was over quailifed but the agency never but my name forward for it because i didnt have a ACIPS cert (this is like a diploma in Supply Chain management), i lit them over the phone!!


2 years ago i applied for for a driver controller job with Eddie Stobarts, having worked in transport for 4 years, the agency i applied for said i hadn't the right quailifcations

[V for Vendetta]

I'd love an opportunity to sit my leaving cert again.

100k and 6 months and id ship 600 points. But without a cash incentive it would be a total waste of time and youd very quickly get bored. So much more better stuff to do in life.

, what a strange thing to wish for.

I'd love an opportunity to go back to college and do something interesting, instead of the unbelievably dull B.Comm that I did do. Almost pulled the trigger on History and Politics in TCD instead and talked myself out of it. But for that, there could be a picture of me in every house in the country and you would all bow before the radio as I made my weekly speeches to the nation.

lol. Not nearly sneaky enough for politics.

It would be all about subject selection for me anyway.

Business, economics, accounting are certs.

History,Geography,Construction and Engineering.

Im no way construction or engineering inclined but easy for the points. I literally had no clue about anything construction related in the LC and managed a C3 in honours. I probably studied it the night before.

agreed. maths, applied maths, physics, economics, english, and AN other for me.

Imagine trying to do the honours leaving cert maths exams again - the horror... I was fairly good at maths but in the 15+ years since I've forgotten almost everything apart from the most basic stuff, shocking! Zero chance I'd even pass it now. Similarly with French, Irish or Physics. I reckon I'd pass English (unless the amount of marks given to analysis of a set body of literature is higher than I remember), Geography and History, maybe manage an honour in the last one given the fact I've two degrees in the subject and have a pretty good casual knowledge of a wide range of historical topics.

Given four months off work and properly incentivised, would I match my 1995 results? I'm not so sure...

You are way overestimating the difficulty based on how you learned back in the day. Approaching it properly would make a huge difference. no time wasted and optimal study techniques would make a huge difference.

I'll let her have today, but then I'm all about the historical supremacy because of grade inflation!

You must have got ridic high points, did you, given the course you did?

i got 570 which meant i could do any course in the country in 1996. Tbh i coasted and then worked hard for 12 weeks. I worked really hard for the JC. I knew the history book by heart etc. Then I realised Id over done it and scaled back.

if id known about the incentives for getting 600 points (scholarships etc) I may have worked harder but then if I knew what I wanted in later life i may have worked less. Its hard to know.

[pgodkin]

good morning, is the storm done or what

lol storm, Ireland can really do with a big glass of manning up jucie!! We have shit weather like 90% of the year, a hurricane to us should just be another wednesday!!

i blame America in fairness, the likes of Florida get great weather 95% of the time so when they get a little rain and wind they think the world is ending!!

i for one am going swiming later!!

[FeetMagic]

I worked hard & got 515. I ended up doing two courses, both requiring under 400, so I wish I spent less time with my head in the books. If I were to do it again right now, all at honours level, I'd say I'd only pass English & Business. I've lost nearly all my knowledge of LC History, Biology, Maths, French & Irish.

[Strewelpeter]

I understand that Eniskillen in running a festival themed around the writer would want to play down this mistaken idea that is firmly entrenched in the non reading public's conciousness that Sam Beckett is all doom and gloom. But the bright and breezy tone of the ad they are running on the radio for the 'Happy Days' festival is hilariously OTT

[eamonhonda]

After learning tech drawing it was by far the easiest a1 i got

[V for Vendetta]

Nothing wrong with getting 360! I don't think i even cracked the 300 mark. We only got 7 subjects to play off in school, while others got 9/10. The whole class was fucking stupid tho, and even tho we were in the top class in school, only 1 guy did honours maths so obv got very very little dedicated time from the teacher

This inequity at the heart of the education system really grinds my fucking gears.

Personally id have to consider home schooling for my kids. Too many bullshit teachers in underresouced schools. i wouldnt trust most of the fuckers with minding a dog much less looking after my child.

[Guest]

100k and 6 months and id ship 600 points. But without a cash incentive it would be a total waste of time and youd very quickly get bored. So much more better stuff to do in life.

Not a hope in hell imo.

[V for Vendetta]

Not a hope in hell imo.

Please have 100k to put into escrow.

[NuckChorris]

Got tickets for the Jameson Silence of the Lambs screening in the Mansion House later - what are the best places for early bird menus for a meal first nearby? Cheers.

[Guest]

Please have 100k to put into escrow.

I would snap call if I had it to spare!

Actually you did TP in Trinity right? Suppose you're sorted for hons maths and physics with not too much work then, so that changes things a bit. If you were fluent in a foreign language and/or Irish you might have a shot but failing that I reckon it would be a very tall order. Also assuming Eng Ire Maths are mandatory.

[Denny Crane]

Got tickets for the Jameson Silence of the Lambs screening in the Mansion House later - what are the best places for early bird menus for a meal first nearby? Cheers.

La Stampa across the road

[V for Vendetta]

what about the casino's is there anything on in them tonight/tomorrow???





I hate recuirment agencies with a passion they are by far the nut worst way to hire staff!! (no offence to RichieM) i applied for a job a few weeks back and was over quailifed but the agency never but my name forward for it because i didnt have a ACIPS cert (this is like a diploma in Supply Chain management), i lit them over the phone!!


2 years ago i applied for for a driver controller job with Eddie Stobarts, having worked in transport for 4 years, the agency i applied for said i hadn't the right quailifcations

There are actually a few decent headhunter/agency types. But in a small town like Dublin and in specialist industries you really need to tread very carefully. Can be frustrating alright.

[Denny Crane]

I would snap call if I had it to spare!

Really? I'd be on Vs side. I reckon w/ 6 weeks I could break 500, 6months and a 100k I'd have a decent shot at 600!

[Guest]

Really? I'd be on Vs side. I reckon w/ 6 weeks I could break 500, 6months and a 100k I'd have a decent shot at 600!

Talking about it with the lads here and they're on the fence too. Despite having the capacity to learn it, hons maths is a long course and is no picnic as far as I recall. I dunno what V does for a living but I think it's something financy meaning he might have no bother with accounting and bus. org or whatever it's called now, but even the latter has a ton of lists that have to be learned off and spewed back on the page in the exam. The real stumbling blocks are English and Irish though. People who aren't speaking Irish regularly would be fucked. I'd have to lol at 6 weeks and 500 tbh.
Interesting discussion though!

[V for Vendetta]

[QUOTE=zuutroy;596509]I would snap call if I had it to spare!

Actually you did TP in Trinity right? Suppose you're sorted for hons maths and physics with not too much work then, so that changes things a bit. If you were fluent in a foreign language and/or Irish you might have a shot but failing that I reckon it would be a very tall order. Also assuming Eng Ire Maths are mandatory.[/
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Yes I did.
i listed my subjects above. id just stick on accounting or history or geography or chemistry as the 6th subject. You are really overestimating the difficulty. Of course if i actually was going to do this id be looking for 10/1.

Making irish mandatory would be an issue alright but id happily do 8 subjects like i did the first time and get 600 points and just pass honours irish and german to get over that difficulty.

[Denny Crane]

Yeah Irish wouldn't be one of my top six, I did an extra subject on my own and did pass Irish for mine. Efficiency ftw!

[Guest]

Yes I did.
i listed my subjects above. id just stick on accounting or history or geography or chemistry as the 6th subject. You are really overestimating the difficulty. Of course if i actually was going to do this id be looking for 10/1.

Making irish mandatory would be an issue alright but id happily do 8 subjects like i did the first time and get 600 points and just pass honours irish and german to get over that difficulty.

I missed that part of your post. I think that's the difference in our positions. If I could do physics, maths, app. maths, chemistry, geography, and maybe business or tech drawing I could give it a shot...I would def be well odds against though.

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[TheJiggaman]

I fully regret not putting in the effort in the LC, instead looking to find as many ways to NOT go to class as possible, just doing random stuff like playing table tennis instead.

Subsequently, not putting the effort in, in my first stint in college is also disappointing looking back on it as it was a course I SHOULD have liked and enjoyed, but the 1 or 2 modules that I didn't like (Programming and Music Skills) ruined it for me and stopped me getting up in the morning for it.

[V for Vendetta]

By the way I'm in no way trying to demean the achievements of those getting results today. It's a different story being 17 and working in the system and getting good results compared to a college graduate who can optimize his studying etc and has 100k of an incentive.

Still totally doable though!

[hotspur]

We can all agree though that the LC is a ridiculous thing right? All of the wonderful things that could be done to encourage, enhance, and enrich a young person's intellectual, creative, psychological, emotional, physical, artistic, spiritual, social selves during those years and instead they learn about the Franco Prussian war and sedimentary rocks.

Such a waste and time, money, and effort. By all means have some structured learning and an aptitude test for who gets dibs on the college courses, but don't waste all that time gearing it towards it. Because the clever ones are just going to cram in a few weeks and get the scores anyway. They might as well have been doing something worthwhile for first 4 and a half years of secondary school.

[V for Vendetta]

We can all agree though that the LC is a ridiculous thing right? All of the wonderful things that could be done to encourage, enhance, and enrich a young person's intellectual, creative, psychological, emotional, physical, artistic, spiritual, social selves during those years and instead they learn about the Franco Prussian war and sedimentary rocks.

Such a waste and time, money, and effort. By all means have some structured learning and an aptitude test for who gets dibs on the college courses, but don't waste all that time gearing it towards it. Because the clever ones are just going to cram in a few weeks and get the scores anyway. They might as well have been doing something worthwhile for first 4 and a half years of secondary school.

Hotspur you rock. If only I knew all that then and wasn't listening to the teaching vested interests. There is a real need for proper life/career advice from people who know what they are talking about.

[Guest]

Isn't it just a case of the least worst way to do things though?

[Zod]

We can all agree though that the LC is a ridiculous thing right? All of the wonderful things that could be done to encourage, enhance, and enrich a young person's intellectual, creative, psychological, emotional, physical, artistic, spiritual, social selves during those years and instead they learn about the Franco Prussian war and sedimentary rocks.

Such a waste and time, money, and effort. By all means have some structured learning and an aptitude test for who gets dibs on the college courses, but don't waste all that time gearing it towards it. Because the clever ones are just going to cram in a few weeks and get the scores anyway. They might as well have been doing something worthwhile for first 4 and a half years of secondary school.

shit son, learning how to measure sand dunes is a survival skill, yo.

[thechamp87]

100k and 6 months and id ship 600 points. But without a cash incentive it would be a total waste of time and youd very quickly get bored. So much more better stuff to do in life.

Would you attempt it if you get €0 for anything less than 600?

[V for Vendetta]

Would you attempt it if you get €0 for anything less than 600?

Oh yes. Thats the point. I'd want 10k at 10/1. Money to be escrowed.

[Ste05]

Subsequently, not putting the effort in, in my first stint in college is also disappointing looking back on it as it was a course I SHOULD have liked and enjoyed, but the 1 or 2 modules that I didn't like (Programming and Music Skills) ruined it for me and stopped me getting up in the morning for it.

What course was this? Music Skills and Programming seems a strange mix.

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[cardshark202]

I fully regret not putting in the effort in the LC, instead looking to find as many ways to NOT go to class as possible, just doing random stuff like playing table tennis instead.

Subsequently, not putting the effort in, in my first stint in college is also disappointing looking back on it as it was a course I SHOULD have liked and enjoyed, but the 1 or 2 modules that I didn't like (Programming and Music Skills) ruined it for me and stopped me getting up in the morning for it.

Table tennis > LC

[carlop]

We can all agree though that the LC is a ridiculous thing right? All of the wonderful things that could be done to encourage, enhance, and enrich a young person's intellectual, creative, psychological, emotional, physical, artistic, spiritual, social selves during those years and instead they learn about the Franco Prussian war and sedimentary rocks.

Such a waste and time, money, and effort. By all means have some structured learning and an aptitude test for who gets dibs on the college courses, but don't waste all that time gearing it towards it. Because the clever ones are just going to cram in a few weeks and get the scores anyway. They might as well have been doing something worthwhile for first 4 and a half years of secondary school.

Fully agree with this. It also must be said too that a poor Leaving Cert these days is by no means an insurmountable barrier to a good career. Doing very well in the Leaving Cert gives people a vast choice of degrees, but I actually think that this is a decision that is very difficult for an 18 year old to make correctly.

I know so many people whose chosen career path has nothing to do with what they studied in university, which in turn they may only have chosen as it had high points and so therefore seemed like a good course.

On to the 100k for 600 points bet, I think I could probably do it. I would get Italian and Spanish easily enough, without having to study too much. I got an A2 in Honours French and I think I could also bump this up to an A1. That gives me a nice 300 head start.

As mentioned, Geography is there for the taking. With a bit of study of the set texts I think I could scrape it in English too. That leaves my favourite and best subject which was history. I got an A1 in this first time round, so provided I didn't injure my wrist and could handle all the writing necessary, I think I could do so again.

If a condition was having to get an A1 in the mandatory subjects, then I'd have problems. Irish would be impossible. I got an A2 in Maths, but I'd really struggle to repeat that, let alone improve on it.

[Foxy]

Funnily enough i actually did do the leaving cert a second time, and went up 60 points from the first time. 6months is a shorter time than you probably think considering theres new courses in most subjects, a completely different maths and irish syllabus and completely new plays/poets for english. Could take a month or two just to get back up to the level you were at before. I actually kinda enjoyed doing the leaving cert a second time ( I'm a freak i know ! ), cos not getting what i wanted the first time pissed me off a fair bit and it was good to be able to do things right for a change...

[Keane]

Geography course has changed drastically since most of us were in school, don't think it's the same gimme it used to be.

[NewApproach]

I got 505 with barely three weeks of proper study, but to be honest if I was to do it again now I don't think I would do much better - I wouldn't be able to motivate myself to put in a better effort this time around, given I've now seen that the benefit of having 600 points as opposed to ~420 is not worth it unless you want to pursue a medical career of some description (which I most definitely do not).

In saying that, a prop bet might increase my motivation some bit, but I'd have to become an unemployed bum like RDIII or V4V first

[NewApproach]

For prop bet purposes accounting is a must - love it or hate it. LC accounting is very straigtforward. You learn the method of doing about five questions and then plug in the figures, there is no opinionated essays or interpretation of any description required. It's either right or it's wrong - no scope for some bitchy corrector to mark you down because she's annoyed with the rainy summer.

[bp_me]

Imagine trying to do the honours leaving cert maths exams again - the horror... I was fairly good at maths but in the 15+ years since I've forgotten almost everything apart from the most basic stuff, shocking!

They have made the leaving cert maths course much simpler in the last few years. Perhaps interestingly (or not) 3rd level are not interested (from my observation) in making maths easier and still expect a reasonable standard (at least in engineering).

[thechamp87]

If I'm flying through CDG is 1h10m long enough to make a connection?

[cardshark202]

If I'm flying through CDG is 1h10m long enough to make a connection?

Normally yes, but I've been screwed before by delays in security. In fact the one time I had about 1h20m I missed my flight. All other times my stopovers have been close to 2hrs and have made the connection with an hour to spare.

[BallymoreChris]

If I'm flying through CDG is 1h10m long enough to make a connection?

YES

[ionapaul]

We can all agree though that the LC is a ridiculous thing right? All of the wonderful things that could be done to encourage, enhance, and enrich a young person's intellectual, creative, psychological, emotional, physical, artistic, spiritual, social selves during those years and instead they learn about the Franco Prussian war and sedimentary rocks.

Such a waste and time, money, and effort. By all means have some structured learning and an aptitude test for who gets dibs on the college courses, but don't waste all that time gearing it towards it. Because the clever ones are just going to cram in a few weeks and get the scores anyway. They might as well have been doing something worthwhile for first 4 and a half years of secondary school.

I can't be the only one who loved learning about the Franco-Prussian war (not joking!) and bits and bobs about geology? Why'd you pick out the two subjects (History and Geography) I found the most interesting during LC? Throw French under the bus, by all means, leave History alone!

[Guest]

Its amazing in my year in school all the guys who did best points wise were the ones who only studied the last 2 weeks.

The fact they were not seen for 6 months is just a coincidence.

Whats wrong with admitting you studied hard and got good results.

[thechamp87]

Normally yes, but I've been screwed before by delays in security. In fact the one time I had about 1h20m I missed my flight. All other times my stopovers have been close to 2hrs and have made the connection with an hour to spare.

I've to get from Terminal 1 to Terminal 2E. Dunno how long this will take.

There's an earlier flight from Dublin to CDG but it would mean a 4h15m stopover. I want to gamble but I'm fucked if I miss the connection. I'm leaning towards taking the earlier one.

[kakak1]

what about the casino's is there anything on in them tonight/tomorrow???

Only one casino in Waterford.............not allowed discuss them here for very good reasons. Their best game of the week is a €30 FO or their DEEPSTACK for €20

My advice is don't go near the place.

If you want a decent game, reasonable standard, good craic the Showboat is the spot on a Wednesday night at 8pm for €50 + €5.run by Staffy who used be in The Poker Lounge and where most of their players now play as well.

[cardshark202]

I've to get from Terminal 1 to Terminal 2E. Dunno how long this will take.

There's an earlier flight from Dublin to CDG but it would mean a 4h15m stopover. I want to gamble but I'm fucked if I miss the connection. I'm leaning towards taking the earlier one.

You should be grand, involves a bus ride which is about 10 mins I think, maybe a little shorter

[Kayroo]

Geography course has changed drastically since most of us were in school, don't think it's the same gimme it used to be.

History course is unrecognisable from what it was 10 years ago.

[thechamp87]

You should be grand, involves a bus ride which is about 10 mins I think, maybe a little shorter

Cheers, gonna gamble.

[NewApproach]

Its amazing in my year in school all the guys who did best points wise were the ones who only studied the last 2 weeks.

The fact they were not seen for 6 months is just a coincidence.

Whats wrong with admitting you studied hard and got good results.

Meh stereotypes. Some people just naturally understand things easier than others. TBH I have the height of respect for those who worked seriously hard for their results, it made me feel like I didn't deserve what I got in a way. I reckon there is little correlation between hours studied and points attained, bar maybe at the extremes.

Personally, I done whatever homework during the year but didn't do extra hours until the end of term (I was in boarding school so we had assigned study hours - about 2.5 a night IIRC).

Either way, the way the LC is set up is not a good grounding for college. Two vastly different methods of both learning and examining in my experience.

[Opr]

Oliver Kay from the Times saying Liverpool have completed the signing of Sahin on loan for the season

Opr