Bad beat/Moan/Venting Thread - BBV Archive 1

[Raoul Duke III]

Nasri to United?

if true, Arsenal fans would be right to be furious

[Raoul Duke III]

by the way, do I see that the Aquarium has sneakily withdrawn its 4k guarantee for tonight's game?

[Theresa]

Oh wow. Would be so sick to see Nasri at United. He is such a cracking player.

[Wesley Harms]

Oh wow. Would be so sick to see Nasri at United. He is such a cracking player.

Nasri and Young on the same day would be mega

[Rufio]

Young for 20 mil is laughable. Guy is still ridiculously overrated.

[ghostface]

Any of you BBV degens heading to the SE for the 2nd thursday of the month game??

May head in to play some cash after cos going for a few drinks in town later, I'll be the value at that table if it happens

[sligoboi]

Nasri to Utd has to be bullshit shirley? Wenger's past frugality would surely then have to be seen as unambition rather than sticking to his principles?

[reilly110]

Ha Thanks. I enjoyed it myself. I knew there was little chance he was going to fold (he never does really) which made it so appealing-like cheering home a 10-1 shot who somehow has got into the mix in the home straight, a nice sweat.

Cash game was bananas aswell,managed to hold for two four figure pots and still not book a huge win on the night!

where was this game held ?
thanks

[Theresa]

I reckon Nasri is only silly twitter rumours but I still love the idea. He'd be so good for United in CM.

Young, I dont think he is overrated at the minute. Hes been pretty quiet for a while now. Obv when he hits form he is 'OMG worlds best winger/Striker/Cm' because he's english but hes a very decent signing and Fergie has a penchant for getting it spot on with wingers.

[Teddie]

Nasiri out of contract obviously?

[Theresa]

Yeah Nasri is out of contract at the end of next year I think. Wenger wont want him going like Flamini did so its a possibility and if Nasri wants it, Wenger will have to find a way to make it work. Still... it just doesnt seem likely.

[Guest]

where was this game held ?
thanks

Crackpot

[Teddie]

Yeah Nasri is out of contract at the end of next year I think. Wenger wont want him going like Flamini did so its a possibility and if Nasri wants it, Wenger will have to find a way to make it work. Still... it just doesnt seem likely.

If I was wenger I would let him rot in the reserves for a year before selling him to Arsenals biggest rivals. It would be crazy by Wenger to let him go to United.

[RasTa]

Nasri is just twitter rubbish.

[RasTa]

If I was wenger I would let him rot in the reserves for a year before selling him to Arsenals biggest rivals. It would be crazy by Wenger to let him go to United.

Sell him for free or get £15m? Easy choice

[Rufio]

I reckon Nasri is only silly twitter rumours but I still love the idea. He'd be so good for United in CM.

Young, I dont think he is overrated at the minute. Hes been pretty quiet for a while now. Obv when he hits form he is 'OMG worlds best winger/Striker/Cm' because he's english but hes a very decent signing and Fergie has a penchant for getting it spot on with wingers.

Young has been pretty poor for villa the past two seasons imo. He's ineffective playing behind the front man, and he doesn't like playing out wide.

Also has a tendency to try the same trick too many times (step over and then a cut inside) every full back in the premiership knows it at this stage.
His redeeming feature is that he has decent set piece delivery.

While undoubtedly Ferguson will get more out of him then previous managers, I still don't think he will be worth the 20mil that is being bandied about.

[Raoul Duke III]

just going to plunge on Mairead McGuinness for our next president @ 11\1

anyone care to dissuade me?

[Solskjaer]

Nasri I like although a bit like Modric in front of goal at times unfortunately (ie misses more than hits) Hopefully he can provide some assists. Young is an overrated rafalike signing. These players will not take United anyway near Barca. Think again Fergie. I like Jones. Has anyone come in for Adel Taarabt , young 21 yr old, player of the championship last season.(QPR) He will be something that fellow. Pity he is a moody fecker.

[Theresa]

If I was wenger I would let him rot in the reserves for a year before selling him to Arsenals biggest rivals. It would be crazy by Wenger to let him go to United.

Not really the way it works though. IF he wants to leave, he holds all the power.

but like rasta said, twitter rubbish.

[Guest]

Home Final for Leinster the year after next...nice!

[Teddie]

Sell him for free or get £15m? Easy choice

If he wants to leave he can go abroad, otherwise he can put his feet up and rest for a year.

Not really the way it works though. IF he wants to leave, he holds all the power.

but like rasta said, twitter rubbish.

Fergie didn't let Heinze move to Liverpool, rightfully so and I'd expect Wenger to be the exact same.

[Keane]

I now live in Dublin

[Wesley Harms]

I now live in Dublin

My deepest and sincerest condolences

[Bubbleking]

The GF got me tickets to the Ireland v England and Ireland v France Internationals in August

wp her imo

[RasTa]

If he wants to leave he can go abroad, otherwise he can put his feet up and rest for a year.




Fergie didn't let Heinze move to Liverpool, rightfully so and I'd expect Wenger to be the exact same.

Yeah but Heinze had more then 12 months left on his contract.

[ArmaniJeans]

just going to plunge on Mairead McGuinness for our next president @ 11\1

anyone care to dissuade me?

Won't get the nomination.

Even if she gets the nomination people won't want another woman after 21 years.

Michael D Higgins has a higher profile and is more popular.

All the negative David Norris stuff is being got out of the way early - we won't be able to resist electing Europes first gay president to show how mature we are.

[Zod]

I now live in Dublin

Congrats on moving to civilisation.

Now, are you living

a) Northside
b) between the canals
c) southside.

Options a and B are acceptable.

[Strewelpeter]

just going to plunge on Mairead McGuinness for our next president @ 11\1

anyone care to dissuade me?

Give me your money instead I'd make better use of it

She's got no hope. She stands in fromnt of the people she'll be exposed for the know nothing self serving fraud she is ... Oh Wait aren't those just the kind of qualities almost guaranteed to get you elected in Ireland.

Ugh! she is a thoroughly nasty person, I know this from personal experience. Can't be having her at all. Surely if Edna wants Pat Cox Edna gets Pat Cox?

[Theresa]

Yeah but Heinze had more then 12 months left on his contract.

Yup. He did. Wengers also been burnt by this before AND cant afford to effectively lose Nasri (be it through rotting in the reserves or leaving) for free. Especially when his squad needs strengthening in other places.

But like has been said. Pipe dream most likely.

[Strewelpeter]

Oh and LOL@ some of the other creatures coming out of the wood pile

[Wesley Harms]

The GF got me tickets to the Ireland v England and Ireland v France Internationals in August

wp her imo

Genuine lol, i thought you were of the fruity variety the way your portrayed around here. Many sorrys

[Teddie]

Yeah but Heinze had more then 12 months left on his contract.

True. But if you told Nasiri he can do nothing for a year and sign for whoever he wants or else he can go to a club abroad which do you think he would pick?


edit: or else sell him to Liverpool, at least we aren't title rivals.

[Raoul Duke III]

Won't get the nomination.

Even if she gets the nomination people won't want another woman after 21 years.

Michael D Higgins has a higher profile and is more popular.

All the negative David Norris stuff is being got out of the way early - we won't be able to resist electing Europes first gay president to show how mature we are.

I think you're overestimating (a) the liberality of the average Irish voter (in relation to Norris) and (b) the 'mna na hEireann' factor. If MMcG gets the FG nomination, I think she'd be the outright favourite to scoop.

but yeah the big danger is that she won't get the FG nomination, Cox has just applied for FG membership. So I'm more interested in this market now. You should read up on how FG nominate their presidential candidate - it's very much a grass roots choice as opposed to dictation from the top. MMcG is very popular within the party whereas Coxer ran for FF at one stage. Your average FG party member won't stomach him.

I'm splitting my stake and putting 75% on MMcG at 4s to get the FG nomination and the rest at 11s to win outright.

[Theresa]

True. But if you told Nasiri he can do nothing for a year and sign for whoever he wants or else he can go to a club abroad which do you think he would pick?

Those options wont ever be put forward though...

Wenger, rightly or wrongly, is under a fair bit of pressure. Letting one of the clubs better players sit in the reserves with a view to leaving on a free in 12 months to whoever (and if it United he wants to go to, why not make htem pay now as opposed to free) wont go down well with either fans or board.

Getting 15-20mill and pledging to strengthen the squad properly would be a smart move.

[Wombatman]

Went baby swimming this moring. Was the only male in attendance. Was the only under 40 (infants aside) in attendance. Alpha male.

Cougars FTW

[Raoul Duke III]

Give me your money instead I'd make better use of it

She's got no hope. She stands in fromnt of the people she'll be exposed for the know nothing self serving fraud she is ... Oh Wait aren't those just the kind of qualities almost guaranteed to get you elected in Ireland.

Ugh! she is a thoroughly nasty person, I know this from personal experience. Can't be having her at all. Surely if Edna wants Pat Cox Edna gets Pat Cox?

Give me 5/1 so

[Raoul Duke III]

by the way, Iceland beat us to the punch on the whole 'first gay leader' thing

although Norris seems like far more craic

dirty Prod too which would count against him

[Angry-Ball]

Won't get the nomination.

Even if she gets the nomination people won't want another woman after 21 years.

Michael D Higgins has a higher profile and is more popular.

All the negative David Norris stuff is being got out of the way early - we won't be able to resist electing Europes first gay president to show how mature we are.

or to show how stupid we are, by voting him in just in case we do something politically incorrect.

[Bubbleking]

Genuine lol, i thought you were of the fruity variety the way your portrayed around here. Many sorrys

wtf?? I'll have to straigthen my act up

[Strewelpeter]

by the way, Iceland beat us to the punch on the whole 'first gay leader' thing

although Norris seems like far more craic

dirty Prod too which would count against him

I think you are wrong about MMcG's popularity in FG, anyone who knows her hates her.

If DN plays his cards right we could be forced to vote him in , whether we like him or not, in order not to let nasty vermin like Helen Lucy Burke and the whole Sindo agenda have their way.

How much 5/1 do you want?

[Teddie]

Those options wont ever be put forward though...

Wenger, rightly or wrongly, is under a fair bit of pressure. Letting one of the clubs better players sit in the reserves with a view to leaving on a free in 12 months to whoever (and if it United he wants to go to, why not make htem pay now as opposed to free) wont go down well with either fans or board.

Getting 15-20mill and pledging to strengthen the squad properly would be a smart move.

It would go down better with fans then selling him to United imo. Also, it's not like Arsenal are hard up for money so I doubt that will be a pressing matter. If he was available for free then more clubs would be in for him so increases his chances of not going to United too.

[Raoul Duke III]

How much 5/1 do you want?

a ton at 5s would be perfect

[Strewelpeter]

a ton at 5s would be perfect

I'll give you 20

[RichieM]

Getting 15-20mill and pledging to strengthen the squad properly would be a smart move.

My prediction is he will buy 19 young soon to be superstars. Most likely French speaking and not bother strengthening the team. This will however lead to a great team in 3\4 or a more vague number of years that he will now start building towards.
My prediction is that RVP and Fab will get injured and mid table it is next season - enjoy

[Raoul Duke III]

I'll give you 20

seriously? thought I was lowballing with the ton opening offer

[Flushdraw]

if true, Arsenal fans would be right to be furious

That doesn't even begin to describe it..

If I was wenger I would let him rot in the reserves for a year before selling him to Arsenals biggest rivals. It would be crazy by Wenger to let him go to United.

Sell him for free or get £15m? Easy choice

The story has been doing the rounds for a while now. Think it first came out back in April, but it's not something i cans see happening. As for Rasta's comment, easy choice is sell for free so i presume that's what you mean? Whatever hope we have of catching United, it disappears if we sell Nasri to them. £15m for him is an insult. I think it was £12 Arsenal paid. He was good then, but he's twice the player now. He wouldn't exactly rot in the reserves but i'm be more than happily to let him leave out of contract than get £15m from United for him.

Arsenal are after Benzema and Madrid also want Nasri. I'd prefer a swap deal if he was going to go. Like most Arsenal fans, it'd be disgusting to see Nasri in a United jersey. Here's a quote from back in May

With rumours circulating last week that Sir Alex is a long-standing admirer of Nasri, Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger replied by saying: "We have a financial disagreement which hasn't yet been settled, we are still in discussions but we haven't agreed a deal... But, one thing's for sure: We're not selling him to United !"

The French International - who has made 22 appearances for his nation - has other ideas... "I don't know if I will sign a new contract (beyond the current 2012 deal). Anyway the discussions are ongoing, but at the moment I don't think about this. We will speak about it after the (Euro 2012 Qualifier) match with Poland. Do I want to go to Manchester United ?... First, we should see if it's real and if it is concrete."

The ball is in Wengers court

Nasri I like although a bit like Modric in front of goal at times unfortunately (ie misses more than hits) Hopefully he can provide some assists.

I don't agree. I think he's fantastic in front of goal and very composed

Those options wont ever be put forward though...

Wenger, rightly or wrongly, is under a fair bit of pressure. Letting one of the clubs better players sit in the reserves with a view to leaving on a free in 12 months to whoever (and if it United he wants to go to, why not make htem pay now as opposed to free) wont go down well with either fans or board.

Getting 15-20mill and pledging to strengthen the squad properly would be a smart move.

£25 million and they can't really say no. I think once he's out of contract, the package that a Milan/Madrid/Barcelona can offer in terms of wages and signing on fee would dwarf United hopefully and send him on his way.

I just think it's a ploy tho to try and get a better contract at Arsenal. He could also be waiting to see what happens with Fabregas. Clichy is our most likely export considering he almost looks like he definitely won't sign a new contract.

The thought of Nasri leaving makes me sad

[RichieM]

by the way, Iceland beat us to the punch on the whole 'first gay leader' thing

although Norris seems like far more craic

dirty Prod too which would count against him

Fucks sake. First euro bank crisis, first gay president, more people who believe in Faries and Leprauchans. They really do everything we do a little quicker and better.

[tylerdurden94]

by the way, do I see that the Aquarium has sneakily withdrawn its 4k guarantee for tonight's game?

That 2nd Thursday of the month was never guaranteed, they did reduce the normal Thursday guarantee from €2000 to €1500

Congrats on moving to civilisation.

Now, are you living

a) Northside
b) between the canals
c) southside.

Options a and B are acceptable.

[Raoul Duke III]

what is this 5/1 on MMcG to get the FG nomination?

yes

[Strewelpeter]

what is this 5/1 on MMcG to get the FG nomination?

LOL

[Strewelpeter]

yes

No


OK I see your post about 11/1 now

I was wondering if you'd had a dose of the stupids or what


Sorry.
where is the 4/1 for the FG Nomination ? sounds about right.

[Raoul Duke III]

No

Way to wriggle outta it

of course it is, she's 4/1 on PP to get the nomination

11/1 to win outright

did you really think I'd be pushing to get 5s on an 11/1 shot?

[thedini]

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[Strewelpeter]

just going to plunge on Mairead McGuinness for our next president @ 11\1

anyone care to dissuade me?

of course it is, she's 4/1 on PP to get the nomination

11/1 to win outright

did you really think I'd be pushing to get 5s on an 11/1 shot?

I was looking outside to see if there were any pigs flying by ...

[Raoul Duke III]

I was looking outside to see if there were any pigs flying by ...

so....that would be a no then?

no worries, I will invest with PP anyway. The FG nomination will be done quickly so not much long-term sweatage.

I think Norris has zero chance fwiw

[Keane]

Congrats on moving to civilisation.

Now, are you living

a) Northside
b) between the canals
c) southside.

Options a and B are acceptable.

I'm living in Sandyford for the next two or three months, then into Rathmines/Ranalagh/Harold's Cross area after that.

hatersgonnahate.jpg

[Guest]

of course it is, she's 4/1 on PP to get the nomination

11/1 to win outright

did you really think I'd be pushing to get 5s on an 11/1 shot?

What's more bemusing is that he try to bargain you down on the stake

[Raoul Duke III]

What's more bemusing is that he try to bargain you down on the stake

he's old and thus easily confused

[Strewelpeter]

What's more bemusing is that he try to bargain you down on the stake

Didn't want to be accused of taking advantage of the mentally feeble, I was going to give him his stake back and pocket the profit for LOL's

[Zod]

The ball is in Wengers court

Far from it. As Nasri will be in the last year of his contract soon, (if he'#s not already) Due to the Webhster Ruling (and the fact that the contract was for 3 years or more) he has the right to buy out the remainder of his contract then sign for whoever he likes.

So the options are

a) Arsenal offer him what he thinks he's worth for a new contract (if he even wants to stay at Arsenal)
b) Arsenal don't offer his what's he's worth, he buys out his contract (which will be worth significantly less than 15 million) and goes to United this summer
c) He remains with Arsenal for a year and goes to United next summer.