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I asked a friend does it affect her and she said that even in the mornings when she is leaving for work she puts on the light outside from inside, checks the street both ways and essentially races to her car. It's a pretty common thing and much more like that. My girlfriend said she wouldn't have even done what that girl was doing, jogging in the afternoon alone. Sure she tried skipping outside my apartment a few times and got hassled every time. The sexual stuff they receive is unending.
Also to mention an experience of a fraction of what women receive, one time a friend of mine had came out and was scared to go to a gay club by herself for the first time so I brought her to help her out. Jesus christ the lads in there towards me, if I experienced that all the time I'd never want to go out anywhere. I don't think I've ever asked somebody about this stuff and they haven't been sexually assaulted. Since most are so easily physically overpowered it just adds to it.Last edited by Tar.Aldarion; 14-01-22, 18:06.
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Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostI asked a friend does it affect her and she said that even in the mornings when she is leaving for work she puts on the light outside from inside, checks the street both ways and essentially races to her car. It's a pretty common thing and much more like that. My girlfriend said she wouldn't have even done what that girl was doing, jogging in the afternoon alone. Sure she tried skipping outside my apartment a few times and got hassled every time. The sexual stuff they receive is unending.
Also to mention an experience of a fraction of what women receive, one time a friend of mine had came out and was scared to go to a gay club by herself for the first time so I brought her to help her out. Jesus christ the lads in there towards me, if I experienced that all the time I'd never want to go out anywhere. I don't think I've ever asked somebody about this stuff and they haven't been sexually assaulted.
Can I go back to our fathers time please?"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Wombatman View Post
Sample size of one. Nice.
So the numbers you posted seem to roughly indicate that women feel a third less safe (or a third more unsafe) when comparing attitudes between 2018 and 2021.
But does that actually translate into a corresponding increase in sexual crime? It seems unlikely (or we would have heard about it, right?)
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So it seems like the levels of fear do not correspond to the actual threat. Interesting. I wonder why that it is."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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There is free money to be had on photo finishes at dundalk. Racing TV have a terrible angle that can be remedied with a ruler. Surprised that the market is getting it wrong so often, I think this is the third time in the last few weeks its been called wrong and TBH I think the market is more heavily influenced by what the commentators are saying rather than the evidence on screen.
This latest one the freeze frame the TV showed has a shadow or blur that made it look at a distance like the one on the nearside had won while the actual winner was trading for three minutes at 3/1 for decent amounts. It's also frozen about a meter short of the line.
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostThere is free money to be had on photo finishes at dundalk. Racing TV have a terrible angle that can be remedied with a ruler. Surprised that the market is getting it wrong so often, I think this is the third time in the last few weeks its been called wrong and TBH I think the market is more heavily influenced by what the commentators are saying rather than the evidence on screen.
This latest one the freeze frame the TV showed has a shadow or blur that made it look at a distance like the one on the nearside had won while the actual winner was trading for three minutes at 3/1 for decent amounts. It's also frozen about a meter short of the line.
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"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
No, that's what you're saying.
Fwiw, my wife runs at night all the time. She also runs the canal alone, but in daylight. Two things that seem to concern me more than her. Her words last night were 'I'm going out for a run in the dark because Fuck him'.
She's been beeped at a few times and catcalled from passing cars and trucks. She's felt momentary fear in those moments but deals with it.
Your wife is spot on of course, violence happens mostly in the home. It's the small cumulative things though that we have the power to reduce. The more we understand how women feel in situations like the beeping car example the less acceptable over time it becomes for lads to do it.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostSeems to me that using an extreme outlier murderous assault on a young woman is a terrible place to start a discussion of the undoubtedly real issue of violence by men against women (99% of which involves people known to each other) and then to frame it within the context of tangentially related, though no less real, phenomenon like objectification of women in media and pornography, male sexuality and the discomfort felt by women when out on their own in public.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostI asked a friend does it affect her and she said that even in the mornings when she is leaving for work she puts on the light outside from inside, checks the street both ways and essentially races to her car. It's a pretty common thing and much more like that. My girlfriend said she wouldn't have even done what that girl was doing, jogging in the afternoon alone. Sure she tried skipping outside my apartment a few times and got hassled every time. The sexual stuff they receive is unending.
Also to mention an experience of a fraction of what women receive, one time a friend of mine had came out and was scared to go to a gay club by herself for the first time so I brought her to help her out. Jesus christ the lads in there towards me, if I experienced that all the time I'd never want to go out anywhere. I don't think I've ever asked somebody about this stuff and they haven't been sexually assaulted. Since most are so easily physically overpowered it just adds to it.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Originally posted by Lazare View Post
The focus went onto women's general fears and micro aggressions because of the fact Ashling Murphy was running in daylight. It immediately highlighted the fact that women fear excersising at night time.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Lazare View Post
I had that experience in The Dragon on George's St about 15 years ago. I will admit to it being a bit funny at the time batting lads away but would be absolutely horrible if it happened every time you went out.Gone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.
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Originally posted by Lazare View Post
I guess I did call him a racist. I should probably accept the low blow.
Fwiw, my wife runs at night all the time. She also runs the canal alone, but in daylight. Two things that seem to concern me more than her. Her words last night were 'I'm going out for a run in the dark because Fuck him'.
She's been beeped at a few times and catcalled from passing cars and trucks. She's felt momentary fear in those moments but deals with it.
Your wife is spot on of course, violence happens mostly in the home. It's the small cumulative things though that we have the power to reduce. The more we understand how women feel in situations like the beeping car example the less acceptable over time it becomes for lads to do it.
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Originally posted by ComradeCollie View Post
Do you never get sexual harassment from men when you are out jogging? I used to get a fair bit of it ( 30 years ago). Only time I was actually worried was from 4 fellas in a car along the canal. 95% sure they were just having a hilarious laugh, though it was pretty extreme.
Did get a fright.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostFear of *all* crime is at an all time high. While crime itself is at an all time low. Initially the disparity came from 24 hour news, in the last two decades. But the arrival of social media has massively exploded that.
We've never been more fearful yet we've never been safer.
Now ask youself:- Why that is? and
- Who benefits from keeping us in that state of fearfulness?
"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by pokerhand View Post
I actually didn't think you did. I just assumed you didn't see my point about LA v Dublin.
Although I still believe the way you worded that post came across a little racist, I get now the point you were making. I thought you were saying that Kentucky example was fine.
So apologies.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Originally posted by Solksjaer! View PostThinks ive heard whilst out running .
30 years ago. Its a stew ya need - from passing yobs in a car
2 years ago. Run fatboy run . From teenagers . (One was my niece )
On the other hand two of my female colleagues have actually been robbed on that path and most of them report sexualised and racial comments.
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Was trying out a few tone deafness tests and found this one of the better ones, though they do collect a lot of info in the process https://www.themusiclab.org/quizzes/td
themusiclab-org-your-tonedeafness-scores.pngGone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
That's a terrible bastardisation of what he did.Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
What did he do?
Young wans were sluts and whores, young fellas were skangers and skobes.
Any girl passing by and catcalled and oogled over a mic.
All in the name of "comedy"People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Lazare View Post
Emmet and I were talking about regular Joe white Kentuckians crossing the street when they saw regular Joe black Kentuckians, I think that's repugnant racism.
Although I still believe the way you worded that post came across a little racist, I get now the point you were making. I thought you were saying that Kentucky example was fine.
So apologies.
Likewise with women seeing a man coming against them. They would analyse the risk based on the factors they observe i.e. is the person walking with a dog, is he jogging also, does he look dodgy eg homeless etc . We all do that assessment, but women are more attuned to the the threat factor as that is a natural survival skill they developed since the beginning of time. If they didn't have that.
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Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post
Shouted abuse at perceived easy targets, for fucking years.
Young wans were sluts and whores, young fellas were skangers and skobes.
Any girl passing by and catcalled and oogled over a mic.
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Fairly important context imo:
"While women are more fearful of violent crime, men are at much higher risk of being victims of violent crime"Contrary to popular belief, men, not women, are overwhelmingly the victims of random street violence resulting in death. And although women are socialised to fear strangers, their partners are more deadly, writes criminologist Dr Michelle Noon.
Female fear is hardening into noisy, righteous anger. In the UK last week, the din broke through to the corridors of power. Fear is passive. It takes anger, apparently, to be heard.
In 2017, 1.7% of women aged 15 years or older said they had been the victim of one or more violent crimes, against 2.5% of men. Intimidation is the most common crime among both sexes. Women report twice as often than their male peers that they have fallen victim to a sexual offence.
On the streets, men are more likely to be the victims of "stranger danger" than women - more likely to be violently mugged, stabbed or beaten up. In the UK, men are two to three times more likely than women to be killed by someone unknown to them, with the 16-24 age group at highest risk."I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. Thompson
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Originally posted by AndyFatBastard View Post
Yeah, see feminist theory states that it's all connected.Gone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.
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Originally posted by AndyFatBastard View Post
We all know the level of fear well outweighs the level of risk. It's all about that fear though.
I'm talking about minor adjustments to our behaviour that we can make to shrink that fear.
I also don't think it's reasonable to then say if I accept women can legitimately be in fear of good men that it follows that I should not condemn white people from Kentucky being irrationally in fear of black people.
To do so would be to discard all manner of historical nuances. It's not a simple rising boats situation. The two positions are not mutually exclusive.Last edited by Lazare; 14-01-22, 20:58.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Touch wood in 30 years socializing in the City Centre I've never had any real hassle or trouble bar one attempted mugging when some fucker pulled a knife on me.
Many times out with herself though maybe walking up Grafton Street at 3am or wherever and ive turned us down a side street or crossed over and she would be completely oblivious as to why i did it. Can only imagine what it is like for a woman own her own or even in a small group at times.
There are an element of men out there and it will never really change in my opinion.
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Originally posted by Lazare View Post
I really feel people are totally missing the point of what I'm on about.
All the stuff you advised is pretty much what I've done over the last 30 years or so. I do think it can help women feel somewhat less fearful in a small way. Unfortunately it does nothing to reduce the chances of something actually happening.Gone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.
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Originally posted by hotspur View PostMy first thought after Lazare's point was - hmm, people think that universals exist i.e. that "men" is something that exists in the world. I don't get to have any debating fun at all.
Although, it doesn't smell very complimentary
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It's not an uncomplentary thing Lazare and it's not about you.
People were initially debating something about what the meaningfulness of what one man does has on men in general.
That is predicated on believing that there exists in the real world a thing called men. I would be inclined towards the view that there is not.
This issue is a very old one in philosophy called the problem of universals.
Apart from that, I agree with your suggestions on what someone can do. Not that I much do them myself, I do a bit, but I'm a delightful sprite who is of no visual threat to anyone.
Lastly, I think any full discussion of all of this could do with including how women use their sexuality. I happen to hold a view that I would prefer if we didn't live in a time and place where every other woman is wearing yoga pants etc.
But obviously now is that not the time for introducing that given what happened which is due to some dangerous nutjob.
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I'm looking to buy a Buddhist statue from the UK as a present for someone. It'll be over three hundred quid, and I was looking for a way to get it without all the customs and double vat paying etc. which jack up the cost to the point of not being viable.
So I thought to get it sent to the North, but I don't know anyone in the North, so I found a place in Derry that acts like a Parcel Motel type thing.
It sounds like a classy operation, one option people have in Donegal is to pick their package up in Buncrana in a car park one evening from 6:10-6:20pm.
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
What did he do?"We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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Originally posted by Dice75 View PostTouch wood in 30 years socializing in the City Centre I've never had any real hassle or trouble bar one attempted mugging when some fucker pulled a knife on me.
Many times out with herself though maybe walking up Grafton Street at 3am or wherever and ive turned us down a side street or crossed over and she would be completely oblivious as to why i did it. Can only imagine what it is like for a woman own her own or even in a small group at times.
There are an element of men out there and it will never really change in my opinion."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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Originally posted by hotspur View PostLastly, I think any full discussion of all of this could do with including how women use their sexuality. I happen to hold a view that I would prefer if we didn't live in a time and place where every other woman is wearing yoga pants etc.
Do you think they should cover up in the pool and at the beach too?
They need to change their behavior in any case. It's not like one could just look away or better still remove oneself from harms way if it's too much to be dealing with like.
Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt
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Originally posted by Wombatman View Post58% of Covid hospital cases aren't there because of Covid. WTF like. Yes, I know they still have to be managed differently but the numbers are input into big decisions without this type of breakdown.
Good luck with your tests before flying.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by hotspur View PostIt's not an uncomplentary thing Lazare and it's not about you.
People were initially debating something about what the meaningfulness of what one man does has on men in general.
That is predicated on believing that there exists in the real world a thing called men. I would be inclined towards the view that there is not.
This issue is a very old one in philosophy called the problem of universals.
Apart from that, I agree with your suggestions on what someone can do. Not that I much do them myself, I do a bit, but I'm a delightful sprite who is of no visual threat to anyone.
Lastly, I think any full discussion of all of this could do with including how women use their sexuality. I happen to hold a view that I would prefer if we didn't live in a time and place where every other woman is wearing yoga pants etc.
But obviously now is that not the time for introducing that given what happened which is due to some dangerous nutjob.
What is reality if it's not in our thoughts and speech?
Am a little disappointed in the last bit of that post tbh. It's only from our point of view that it's sexuality that's being used. They're just wearing comfortable clothes.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Originally posted by Lazare View Post
Thank you. It's admittedly a difficult concept to understand.
What is reality if it's not in our thoughts and speech?
Am a little disappointed in the last bit of that post tbh. It's only from our point of view that it's sexuality that's being used. They're just wearing comfortable clothes.
Men are just out for a walk. Women are just wearing comfortable clothes.
Tad inconsistent tbh.
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Originally posted by pokerhand View Post
Now you are applying double standards. You want us to be mindful of our impact on women, but you don't want women to be mindful of their impact of men, you can't have it both ways.
Men are just out for a walk. Women are just wearing comfortable clothes.
Tad inconsistent tbh.
It's her fault if she does?
Fucking hell.
Fucking. Hell.
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Originally posted by Lazare View Post
You think women should dress in a way that doesn't sexually arouse you then?
It's her fault if she does?
Fucking hell.
Fucking. Hell.
Do you not get the double standards there?Last edited by pokerhand; 15-01-22, 01:11.No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity, but I know none, therefore am no beast.
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Wife's going in for a colonoscopy in the morning so has had to take loads of laxative today. I could see all evening she was dying to have a conversation about just how much she was shitting, but I managed to send enough nods and appreciative sighs to indicate that I silently sympathise but just can't take on board your actual fecal explosions stories today."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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Was interviewing a new person I'm hiring today, from Iran. A rather free flowing conversation as I've never thought to look up how to interview someone. My general approach is to just chitchat until they hopefully mention something about the job, at which point I go: oh yeah, what are your thoughts on that? To my credit, I've evolved over the years and now only 'interview' people after I've already made the decision to hire them based on prior recommendation.
Anyway, we were chatting away about Tehran and she was mentioning how it's a mad place underground. The conversation meandered into me talking about that cool guy from Iran from Boards Poker. I named him Ghadi out of immediate memory deficit. I was just saying how he left here to go back to Iran and doubled his debauchery. What was his name again?
I've managed to meet a lot of Iranians and as a default rule they are all ridiculously charming. It's a really unique cultural personality. I'm quite fascinated by it. There's no Iranian you could meet who is not weird, but great, in some way.
Remember seeing a stat a while ago about how Iran is the top five nation in terms of AI research. It'll never do them any good, but they're just doing it because who there gives a fuck, and why not use their brains for something mad."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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Originally posted by Lao Lao View Post
Talking the sister in law in Melbourne and she said the over riding feeling was embarrassment that he wasn't been allowed in and that majority wanted him to play the event and the people kicking up about were a very small but noisy minority.
Not sure if Sydney reaction is different?
There would be a cohort in Melbourne who see the tennis as an important sporting event and that this cheapens it. I’d imagine the fans would value that over the covid rules.
Had a nice meal over the Christmas. Will do a trip report at some point in the review thread.Last edited by Mellor; 15-01-22, 07:15.
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It’s mental (but not surprising) how much of the social media reaction to the murder is basically “so sad but how can I make this about me” plus all the baseless xenophobia re the initial suspect etc. social media needs to be regulated to the point of extinctionWill you ever fuck off with that shite... you are easily one of the worst posters on here for this-Pokerhand
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Originally posted by pokerhand View Post
Missing the point... I don't care how women dress nor should I. But you can't ask men to care about their impact on the opposite sex without asking women to care about their impact on the other sex, regardless of what it is.
Do you not get the double standards there?
Women can wear whatever the fuck they want. It's up to you to control your sexual urge.
Women don't wear clothes with you mind.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
Are you describing a national problem with drinking or a national problem with men there?
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Originally posted by Wombatman View Post
Yeah. They are asking for it. Scheming on new way to "use their sexuality" to bamboozle men.
Do you think they should cover up in the pool and at the beach too?
I'm quite comfortable in my view that we live in a hypersexualised society that has numerous negative consequences. We get overly aroused generally in our society, and sexual arousal is part of it. I think our arousal society is problematic.
And yes I think some part of that includes clothes worn. I know what it's like to spend weeks on retreat where all clothes worn by everyone are loose non-revealing clothes. And I have been surprised to notice the effect that has on preventing sexual thoughts and arousal. It goes down and down. Obviously there's no media too.
I observe my mind states, and when I notice sexual orientated mind states arising when walking down the street in the city centre I know what conditions it. And it isn't the mere presence of women. I would prefer not to have this as what my mind is partially conditioned by.
I'm a guy and what that entails, I don't always look away as much as I think I should, but some of it is objectively due to fashion choices that accentuate the appearance of sexual attractiveness.
I appreciate that I'm unusual in this respect, of preferring to have a mind not conditioned by sensual desire left, right, and centre. And I'm not saying that women should or should not do anything that has to do with what I wish. I'm merely pointing out that there are consequences.
For every person who wishes not to crave or grasp after such mental states there are ten thousand who will. Most just internally crave, but some will externally grasp (act).
Anyway, I hope that gives more context to what I'm getting at.
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Originally posted by paul8200 View PostLads you need to re-read Lazare's posts about female fear and have a think about it again
I sm one of those guys Hotspur refers to. The struggle is real. Women do have a sexual power sometimes toxic sometimes intoxicating. We have to acknowledge that .
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