Bad beat/Moaning/Venting thread - Wordle Gummidge

[Lazare]

A mate of mine suggested to his new wife that when their honeymoon in India ended he would like to stay on by himself for three weeks.


Lad has no bother fucking off for weekends and pints poor girl.

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

I just don't get how people like Andrew Cuomo the New York mayor can find the time to abuse women. Like mayor of New York just seems like such a demanding job. I guess they delegate everything except the abuse?

[ArmaniJeans]

Dice's mate with no kids needs better legal people, no reason why he should be at anything less than 50:50 ...............

Can't remember how to multi-quote so I'll use your post.
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50/50 does appear the obvious split on first read.

But looking for a part of the pension could possibly be explained if they were mainly putting their joint income into his pension (because it had less fees, or his company topped it up and hers didn't).

And even without kids I wonder whether it's always as simple as 50/50. Like if they'd used joint income to pay €15K for his Masters (they decided they could only afford one between them), is she entitled to compensation or even a percentage of the career benefits that that qualification will bring? What if their joint income paid for him to have regular new cars to impress in his job whilst she stuck with a runaround?

I don't know whether these sort of things would be legally relevant.

[ArmaniJeans]

Cuomo looked the real deal but I wouldn't want him parachuted in.
Would much prefer to see him in 4 or 8 years time going through the normal process of primaries/caucuses and democrat party debates.
If he's not the real deal, or doesn't appeal nationally, or has skeletons, then better they are exposed at that relatively early stage of the process.

I absolutely nailed this 14 months ago when Eagle Eye wanted Biden thrown out and Cuomo parachuted in after the primaries.
What a mess we'd be in now.

[Charlie Sheen]

How common is this? Maybe if there's child minding involved it warrants a discussion, but otherwise?

I've only ever seen it when the couple have different life-styles. One has a group of friend's they like to see and has hobbies and the other has neither or isn't pushed about leaving the house. When both people want to get out of the house it's an easy trade off, you go out this week and I'll go next whether that's going for a few drinks, golfing, popping around to your friend's to just hang out, whatever. A shocking amount of people have reached adulthood with few/no hobbies and a tiny friend group that they rarely see.

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

Can't remember how to multi-quote so I'll use your post.
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50/50 does appear the obvious split on first read.

But looking for a part of the pension could possibly be explained if they were mainly putting their joint income into his pension (because it had less fees, or his company topped it up and hers didn't).

And even without kids I wonder whether it's always as simple as 50/50. Like if they'd used joint income to pay €15K for his Masters (they decided they could only afford one between them), is she entitled to compensation or even a percentage of the career benefits that that qualification will bring? What if their joint income paid for him to have regular new cars to impress in his job whilst she stuck with a runaround?

I don't know whether these sort of things would be legally relevant.

There's some reasonable points there. The other side though is that legal fees will make a mockery of things like going 50:50 on €15k masters fees.

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

I've only ever seen it when the couple have different life-styles. One has a group of friend's they like to see and has hobbies and the other has neither or isn't pushed about leaving the house. When both people want to get out of the house it's an easy trade off, you go out this week and I'll go next whether that's going for a few drinks, golfing, popping around to your friend's to just hang out, whatever. A shocking amount of people have reached adulthood with few/no hobbies and a tiny friend group that they rarely see.

Absolutely.

[ArmaniJeans]

There's some reasonable points there. The other side though is that legal fees will make a mockery of things like going 50:50 on €15k masters fees.

Fair point, but if the plan was that the masters would eventually put him into that 98% percentile that we spoke of last night, then is she entitled to a) nothing because they are no longer together b) the bare €7.5K refund or c) some percentage of that extra ~€500K that he's going to make in his career because of it? I haven't a clue how this would normally be accessed.

Whilst at first glance it looks like a grasping solicitor turning her head away from a completely fair 50/50 split of everything, it's at least possible that he's a good solicitor who's pointed out that she'd be absolutely screwing herself if she accepted such a terrible split. Gave her a few home truths V4V-style.
Their initial demand is probably still a 'gambit' but it might be to focus Dice's friend that 50/50 just isn't realistic.

[Solksjaer!]

Marriage should be a 7 year contract . Signing on for life seems harsh to all involved . What are we Swans ?

[Solksjaer!]

Radiohead dropped by to put its 2 cents into the conversation.

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

Fair point, but if the plan was that the masters would eventually put him into that 98% percentile that we spoke of last night, then is she entitled to a) nothing because they are no longer together b) the bare €7.5K refund or c) some percentage of that extra ~€500K that he's going to make in his career because of it? I haven't a clue how this would normally be accessed.

There's surely no logical reason why future earnings would belong to your partner unless they can show that their own earnings were impeded by the act of investing in the other partner. That would be very hard to show.

I could well believe the courts are trigger happy enough to think along those lines, but it seems illogical.

Maybe the husband could argue that the cost of paying the wedding, or the engagement ring, meant he couldn't do an MBA.

[Charlie Sheen]

Havnt really got into the Olympics but just reading about the men's 400m hurdle. World record beaten twice in the race . How sick would you be, all the prep during the pandemic, you know you can run a WR time and you turn up on the day and do it. Only for the current world record holder to absolutely smash his old record.

[ComradeCollie]

I just don't get how people like Andrew Cuomo the New York mayor can find the time to abuse women. Like mayor of New York just seems like such a demanding job. I guess they delegate everything except the abuse?

He's not the mayor. The mayor is de Blasio.

[Lazare]

Havnt really got into the Olympics but just reading about the men's 400m hurdle. World record beaten twice in the race . How sick would you be, all the prep during the pandemic, you know you can run a WR time and you turn up on the day and do it. Only for the current world record holder to absolutely smash his old record.

Stunning. Did you read Cathal Dennehy's piece on it?

I linked it above.

[ionapaul]

This is a fantastic piece of writing..

https://m.independent.ie/sport/other...-40713796.html

I watched that race about 5 times yesterday, and will squeeze in another few viewings today, trying to get different channels' playbacks to enjoy new commentary. Seems fairly unanimous that it was one of the best, if not the ultimate, Olympic finals race ever.

[Raoul Duke III]

I watched that race about 5 times yesterday, and will squeeze in another few viewings today, trying to get different channels' playbacks to enjoy new commentary. Seems fairly unanimous that it was one of the best, if not the ultimate, Olympic finals race ever.

Recency bias.

Gebrselassie vs Tergat, Sydney 10000m
Coe vs Ovett, Moscow 1500m
Tokyo marathon 1964

All way more compelling and dramatic

[AndyFatBastard]

Gambit seems to be the word of the day.

Comes from the Italian gambetto, which means 'tripping up'. Somehow ended up in chess terminology and from there to an opening position in legal negotiations.

More etymology please <3

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

Saw a headline people would be talking about a particular race - probably that one - for 100 years. Which seemed slightly optimistic.

[Raoul Duke III]

Saw a headline people would be talking about a particular race - probably that one - for 100 years. Which seemed slightly optimistic.

It wasn't even that exciting a race. The fav blasted off in front and stayed there easily.

He doesn't seem to have any particularly interesting back story either (but then does any Norweigan).

[ComradeCollie]

It wasn't even that exciting a race. The fav blasted off in front and stayed there easily.

He doesn't seem to have any particularly interesting back story either (but then does any Norweigan).

I thought getting his tits out at the end was a bit odd.

[shrapnel]

I thought getting his tits out at the end was a bit odd.

he didn't even mange to break his zipper which always looks ridic weak

[Solksjaer!]

[QUOTE=Raoul Duke III;n1699232]

It wasn't even that exciting a race. The fav blasted off in front and stayed there easily.

He doesn't seem to have any particularly interesting back story either (but then does any Norweigan).[/QUOTE]

Ah here .

[Mellor]

Then her mate told her to get a Solicitor and see what she could get. Next thing she wants to stay in the house, him to pay half the mortgage and monthly payments with 50% of his pension. Money talks.

She's entitled to asks for whatever she wants. He's entitled to counter with whatever he wants. They sooner they decide what that what is legally irrelevant the better.

He can also walk away from the table. Without knowing the details, staying married but separated is also an option, and should really be his bottom line. It's in her interest to get divorce papers signed and much as his. She shouldn't benefit any more than he should.

Staying legally married probably means;
50% of assets, 50% of future pensions (both ways). And half of his additional 30% earnings - which is only 9% after tax. Call it 10%. In no scenerio should he be losing more than that.

Finding a fair 50:50 is hard. As a stab, 50% of assets, 50% of current pension now (goes both ways) or 50% of current pensions future value. She loses any claim to post divorce earnings.
If she wants to stay in the house, that's no problem. She can pay rent, which comes of the mortgage repayment, and the remainder (if any) is spit. House is split in future when should. Confirm survivorship rules on ownership papers.

[ionapaul]

It wasn't even that exciting a race. The fav blasted off in front and stayed there easily.

He doesn't seem to have any particularly interesting back story either (but then does any Norweigan).

It's the Olympics, not the X Factor He trains for 8 hours a day, that's back story enough for me. Not a dying granny in sight...

[Solksjaer!]

She's entitled to asks for whatever she wants. He's entitled to counter with whatever he wants. They sooner they decide what that what is legally irrelevant the better.

He can also walk away from the table. Without knowing the details, staying married but separated is also an option, and should really be his bottom line. It's in her interest to get divorce papers signed and much as his. She shouldn't benefit any more than he should.

Staying legally married probably means;
50% of assets, 50% of future pensions (both ways). And half of his additional 30% earnings - which is only 9% after tax. Call it 10%. In no scenerio should he be losing more than that.

Finding a fair 50:50 is hard. As a stab, 50% of assets, 50% of current pension now (goes both ways) or 50% of current pensions future value. She loses any claim to post divorce earnings.
If she wants to stay in the house, that's no problem. She can pay rent, which comes of the mortgage repayment, and the remainder (if any) is spit. House is split in future when should. Confirm survivorship rules on ownership papers.

Seems sad to be married to a piranha that goes for blood like this. I think id find it hard to hate an ex enough to want to bleed them for every cent like that. I know a guy being supported by his ex in Seattle. Has he no pride .

[The Istanbul]

Not to state the obvious, but she can ask for whatever she wants. What she gets will be different. That's just her opening gambit. However, the winner out of her move away from an amicable resolution will be the legal teams.

And most of these solicitors will actively encourage disputes as they know that divorce/separation is a situation where common financial sense will rarely prevail. A vvg solicitor of my acquaintance said that once they establish that their potential divorcing/separating clients have money they are ready to work it hard.

[Lazare]

It wasn't even that exciting a race. The fav blasted off in front and stayed there easily.

He doesn't seem to have any particularly interesting back story either (but then does any Norweigan).

Recency bias sure, but you can't say it wasn't a phenomenal spectacle when a bronze medalist is 2 hundreths off the WR.

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

She's entitled to asks for whatever she wants. He's entitled to counter with whatever he wants. They sooner they decide what that what is legally irrelevant the better.

He can also walk away from the table. Without knowing the details, staying married but separated is also an option, and should really be his bottom line. It's in her interest to get divorce papers signed and much as his. She shouldn't benefit any more than he should.

Staying legally married probably means;
50% of assets, 50% of future pensions (both ways). And half of his additional 30% earnings - which is only 9% after tax. Call it 10%. In no scenerio should he be losing more than that.

Finding a fair 50:50 is hard. As a stab, 50% of assets, 50% of current pension now (goes both ways) or 50% of current pensions future value. She loses any claim to post divorce earnings.
If she wants to stay in the house, that's no problem. She can pay rent, which comes of the mortgage repayment, and the remainder (if any) is spit. House is split in future when should. Confirm survivorship rules on ownership papers.

Why would a marriage with no kids result in the partner earning more having to split their extra earnings with the partner who earns less?

I fully get, and support, the idea that if someone stays at home to raise the kids then obviously they are entitled to their fair share and have earned it exactly as much as the working partner.

I can imagine a lot of special circumstances, such as those that AJ pointed out yesterday, where a legal system might determine a 50:50 split is fair, but I don't get how its a default perspective.

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

you can't say it wasn't a phenomenal spectacle when a bronze medalist is 2 hundreths off the WR.

we can!

[Raoul Duke III]

we can!

and do!

[Guest]

It wasn't even that exciting a race. The fav blasted off in front and stayed there easily.

He doesn't seem to have any particularly interesting back story either (but then does any Norweigan).

Roald Almudsen the Viking’s and finally Aylar lie

[Guest]

Seems sad to be married to a piranha that goes for blood like this. I think id find it hard to hate an ex enough to want to bleed them for every cent like that. I know a guy being supported by his ex in Seattle. Has he no pride .

Duck pride it does not pay the bills.

[Dice75]

Showjumping final on now on RTE, always a decent watch. 3 Irish in it.

[Solksjaer!]

Duck pride it does not pay the bills.

Yes it does . Go out and work ,is one example .

[Solksjaer!]

we can!

If it were an Irish medal we would call it a spectacular race.

Sure we Were all fecking glued to sailing when Annalise was winning her medal. FECKIN SAILING?

[Raoul Duke III]

If it were an Irish medal we would call it a spectacular race.

Sure we Were all fecking glued to sailing when Annalise was winning her medal. FECKIN SAILING?

and singing along too:

we are sailing, stormy waters, to be neeearrrrr youuuuuuuu, to be freeeeeeeee

[Solksjaer!]

and singing along too:

we are sailing, stormy waters, to be neeearrrrr youuuuuuuu, to be freeeeeeeee

I prefer Christopher Cross song.

[hotspur]

I have just invented a new conspiracy. Covid is a scam created by Dublin Bus to finally get people to exit by the centre doors.

[Dice75]

Pretty grim reading coming out of the inquest of the land dispute in Cork

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/kanturk-inquest-horrified-mother-saw-husband-and-son-shoot-eldest-son-in-bedroom-40718298.html

[ionapaul]

Oooh, that's very grim indeed - wish I had avoided it. I've heard some stories from family members who are farmers and though nothing the like of that happened within the family, regardless things have been tense and aggressive at different times regarding the inheritance of land. Very hard for many of us to comprehend I'm sure. I'd like to think my brothers and I would never fall out badly over an inheritance but god only knows what it feels like if you're in the middle of it!

[Solksjaer!]

Pretty grim reading coming out of the inquest of the land dispute in Cork

https://www.independent.ie/irish-new...-40718298.html

Fking hell. Makes THE FIELD look like a light hearted romp.

[Lazare]

and singing along too:

we are sailing, stormy waters, to be neeearrrrr youuuuuuuu, to be freeeeeeeee

You're both wrong.

Hope that helps.

[hotspur]

A la Hitch I am also in a cinema screen entirely on my own. The market for Ivory Coast films isn't what it used to be.

[Mellor]

More etymology please <3

Originally, the ampersand (&) was not a simple graphic representing "and". It was actually a 27th letter known as "and".
It's glyph was a merge of e+t, et being the latin word for and. As it was used by itself as a word, when reciting the alphabet people would say "...x, y, z, and per se and." Per se literally meaning by or in itself. Over time, "and per se and" was contracted to be "ampersand".

et →

[Mellor]

Why would a marriage with no kids result in the partner earning more having to split their extra earnings with the partner who earns less?

When married there is a shared interest in the combined income. If that status quo where maintained post separation, then half the difference is the equal split. Half of both incomes is the same has one of the incomes +/- half the difference. That should form the bottomline, there's no way that an arrangement where somebody is handing over more should be entertained on that basis.

[Mellor]

Pretty grim reading coming out of the inquest of the land dispute in Cork

https://www.independent.ie/irish-new...-40718298.html

I knew at the time it was grim, but it's worse than imagined. Fucking hell.
Spoiler for anybody who wants to avoid.

SPOILER

From the first paragraph, I assumed that one son was getting the lot and other lost the plot.

"Mrs O'Sullivan had wanted to split the Ossolas farm between her sons - but Diarmuid became increasingly agitated as he demanded the lion's share of the holding".

Fucking hell. Losing the plot because it was only. What a greedy selfish little cunt.
How the fuck do the two of them go along with that.

[Solksjaer!]

I knew at the time it was grim, but it's worse than imagined. Fucking hell.
Spoiler for anybody who wants to avoid.

SPOILER

From the first paragraph, I assumed that one son was getting the lot and other lost the plot.

"Mrs O'Sullivan had wanted to split the Ossolas farm between her sons - but Diarmuid became increasingly agitated as he demanded the lion's share of the holding".

Fucking hell. Losing the plot because it was only. What a greedy selfish little cunt.
How the fuck do the two of them go along with that.

Why Spoiler that. Bad pun on losing the plot ? Or the bad language ?

[Mellor]

Why Spoiler that. Bad pun on losing the plot ? Or the bad language ?

Pun was unintentional, and couldn’t give a flying fuck about bad language.

Its a grim story, and I was quoting the article. Some might want to avoid it entirely, just affording then the curtesy. I said that before the spoiler.

[dinekes]

Originally, the ampersand (&) was not a simple graphic representing "and". It was actually a 27th letter known as "and".
It's glyph was a merge of e+t, et being the latin word for and. As it was used by itself as a word, when reciting the alphabet people would say "...x, y, z, and per se and." Per se literally meaning by or in itself. Over time, "and per se and" was contracted to be "ampersand".

et →

Stratford upon Avon ..16th Century


Julius Caesar -first draft

Brutus, you bollox.
Brutus! fancy seeing you here..aargh
What's the knife for Brutus?..aargh
You also Brutus?

Shakespeare's old dear "ah heyor Willy, theres a lad heyor ta see ye, be the nayum of Mellorius, sayus he wants ta help with ewer stordee. Ine arthur making ewer favrit kayak too. Wud ye not come dowun luv"

[Micknail]

Gimmick turns out to be gimmick

[eamonhonda]

Gimmick turns out to be gimmick

Until the youngfella taking them out with stones problem was addressed this was never a runner.

[DeadParrot]

Being punished compared to who? She can't compete in a women's division, for the same reasons that you or I can't.
What logically basis is here to let her compete in women's divisions as-is, against genetic females.

Athletes have benefited from genetic differences always.
Double jointed swimmers, bjorn borg's heart rate, sprinters twitch muscles, basketball players height...

I said years ago on this thread the ruling as more down to future proofing trans athletes
but I don;t think someone should be restricted to compete by their own body chemistry.

[DeadParrot]

New builds are generally in piss-poor locations though. That's the #1 component of any house price, the location. A house that's 5 minutes walk of the Luas is always going to be smaller/in worse condition than a new build that's the same price but 25 minutes walk away.

Had a good night at the Chef's Table on Saturday night, the new main man stopped by a few times for a chat which was great. We were all stuffed by the end of the night, we must have been some of the last people in Chapter One at that stage and not sure if that played a part, but we ended up getting three different desserts (and after a 'pre-desert' sorbet), all lovely but I couldn't finish it all. I can't remember exactly all the dishes but had frozen gazpacho, scallops & caviar, lobster and a funky chicken dish (the only one that was a bit of a let down) in there. Got the wine pairing too so lots of chats with the sommelier as well.

sounds wonderful but the thoughts of talking to sommeliers and chefs while eating and drinking their food fills me with a kind of dread.

[DeadParrot]

Going for a pint <> going away for the weekend with the lads.

All situational imo - if you have a young baby at home and announce blithely you're heading out on the town, it probably won't go down well with a sleep-deprived wife! And rightly so.

Some men also like to use their wives as an excuse for not going out.

I was pretty shocked how rare that mindset is tbh.
I know plenty of lads who "friday night pints" and off skiing/magaluf for the weekeend with the crew are considered sacrosanct.
Life changes, you gotta roll with it.

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

sounds wonderful but the thoughts of talking to sommeliers and chefs while eating and drinking their food fills me with a kind of dread.

Oh, so much, you're turning yourself into a performing monkey who can't just sit back and enjoy the food. You have to have thoughts on it. Your face has to clearly express interesting and positive thoughts. You can't let out a sneaky fart.

[V for Vendetta]

Oh, so much, you're turning yourself into a performing monkey who can't just sit back and enjoy the food. You have to have thoughts on it. Your face has to clearly express interesting and positive thoughts. You can't let out a sneaky fart.

Ah it’s not like that. It’s very relaxed and convivial.

My main memories of the interactions are RDIII and GAB giving the sommelier a hard time all night but secretly lusting after his job.

And then blagging a free cheese board by taking advantage of another poor fellas misfortune.

[ComradeCollie]

but I don;t think someone should be restricted to compete by their own body chemistry.

Do you reckon people with auto brewery syndrome should be allowed to drive on public roads?

[DeadParrot]

Do you reckon people with auto brewery syndrome should be allowed to drive on public roads?

I guess quanitify this as not a) compete and b) in a way that is not a danger to others.

Similiarily, I wouldn't condone Wolverine to be competing in the UFC.
But someone with an exceptional lung capacity shouldn't be barred from a swimming event.

[Raoul Duke III]

Ah it’s not like that. It’s very relaxed and convivial.

My main memories of the interactions are RDIII and GAB giving the sommelier a hard time all night but secretly lusting after his job.

And then blagging a free cheese board by taking advantage of another poor fellas misfortune.

We saved his life! And we got free port as well.

The thing I remember most from that was the reaction of the wife of the unconscious guy (as relayed by Ed the sommelier) to being told that an ambulance was being called for her husband who GAB\I tried to revive when he drunkenly fell over backwards in the jacks. Not alarm or even concern but 'ah for fuck's sake, not again'.

TLDR: GAB and I are heroes.

[AndyFatBastard]

Athletes have benefited from genetic differences always.
Double jointed swimmers, bjorn borg's heart rate, sprinters twitch muscles, basketball players height...

I said years ago on this thread the ruling as more down to future proofing trans athletes
but I don;t think someone should be restricted to compete by their own body chemistry.

The whole point of having a different category for women's sport is to allow them to compete on a level playing field