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    Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

    You and Gemma O'Doherty can get locked and start a mask protest in front of the GPO.
    Think she prefers the Custom House; not as many foreign types hanging around
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      Originally posted by ComradeCollie View Post

      Think she prefers the Custom House; not as many foreign types hanging around
      au contraire
      "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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        Covid presser on RTE1 at 11:30.
        Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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          I'd mark them 2.5 out of 5 for that.

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            Martin didnt even believe himself there. V weak from him and have provided fuck all clarity really. Defined stages that can be changed on a whim by Nephet, so not defined. Embarrassing for them once again
            airport, lol

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              That was a fucking mess
              People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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                Originally posted by ArmaniJeans View Post
                I'd mark them 2.5 out of 5 for that.
                We have a clear plan with 5 distinct levels.

                What level is Dublin on?

                2.5.



                WAT?
                Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                  New Dublin restrictions. Wet PUBS to be moved into the natural history museum . Will have to drink with the culchies so. (No difference there )

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                    Am I the only one who wants them to cut to the chase and tell us when I can go into town and get locked

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                      Originally posted by ComradeCollie View Post
                      Choose one:

                      A: You can see why they would be worried about the health concerns of the mentally ill with regards to masks

                      B: Way too funny to be an SNL skit
                      PMA

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                        In other news 10 year cancer battle for Michael Laudrup, finally the all clear. Class player .

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                          https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=783529003

                          shorthand guide to lockdown levels
                          People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
                          Get a shiny metal Revolut card! And a free tenner!
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                            Loved Leo's UptheDubs reference during the presser

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                              Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post
                              In other news 10 year cancer battle for Michael Laudrup, finally the all clear. Class player .
                              You Mean Brian not Michael I think.

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                                Originally posted by Hatedajacks View Post

                                You Mean Brian not Michael I think.
                                Correct . Both great players

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                                  Entire Cabinet to self-isolate as Dáil adjourned
                                  https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/...olation-covid/

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                                    Originally posted by SatNav View Post
                                    Current view of where im
                                    staying. I'd say approx 10 guests here that's, one pool, same at other pool easily 150 if not more apartments here . It's fab here, have to wear mask everywhere on to the beach included. Thought would be horrific but it's not a problem at all. I'm coming here, a good few years. A good few places have closed their doors for good. Zero active cases here in corralejo.! The beach is fucking amazing.
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                                    Love Corralejo -wish I was there

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                                      Originally posted by SatNav View Post

                                      No went back to work for 2 weeks then obv had this, booked. Have to self qaurentine for 2 weeks when back. Won't be a problem. Spent 5 months barely leaving my bedroom anyway.
                                      Tesco online shop. Plenty Tonic and ice to go with the duty free. Should be grand
                                      Do yourself a favour and buy yourself a couple of bottles of Malfy Gin (few flavours all lovely but the blood orange one is really good). About €20 there and c.€50 if lucky enough to find it here

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                                        Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post
                                        Ah cool. That's very clear.
                                        "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                          Really pathetic efforts by pisspoor journos and opposition for oppositions sake clown's Mary Lou and Rosin Shortall to try and pretend that something clear and simple is too complicated for people to understand. I suppose if people were thick enough to vote for one of them they are going to struggle with basic comprehension
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                                            Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                                            Really pathetic efforts by pisspoor journos and opposition for oppositions sake clown's Mary Lou and Rosin Shortall to try and pretend that something clear and simple is too complicated for people to understand. I suppose if people were thick enough to vote for one of them they are going to struggle with basic comprehension
                                            Same above here tbh. Just fairly obvious stuff that is is easily clear if you have any modicum of common sense. Like the 2.5 comment. I struggle to accept there are people who can work and cloth themselves by themselves in the morning who can't work out that that was meant to indicate 'its 2 - but its edging up'.
                                            "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                              It takes just one kim to rule the world


                                              "Please join me tomorrow when I will be “freezing” my Instagram and FB account to tell Facebook to #StopHateForProfit."
                                              "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                It takes just one kim to rule the world

                                                Charts and graphs really are your kryptonite. y-axis range is garbage.



                                                Gratuitous snap of Kim bonus.

                                                Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                                                  Not in any way related to the above picture but anyone think Donnie Boy might throw the presidential race so he can go back to the happier times of rampant pussy-grabbin'?
                                                  "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                    Ah. In this particular situation I just couldn't see what the axis was due to being on the phone. Thank you Inspector Axis.
                                                    "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                      Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                                      Not in any way related to the above picture but anyone think Donnie Boy might throw the presidential race so he can go back to the happier times of rampant pussy-grabbin'?
                                                      I don't think he can. If he loses he probably ends up in prison. There are numerous cases making their way through the courts. If he wins he has four more years to purge the justice system of honest honest folk. Also the way he is acting now he won't have many friends left.

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                                                        Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                                        Not in any way related to the above picture but anyone think Donnie Boy might throw the presidential race so he can go back to the happier times of rampant pussy-grabbin'?
                                                        Time to start spending the loots buddy.


                                                        "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                          Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                                          Not in any way related to the above picture but anyone think Donnie Boy might throw the presidential race so he can go back to the happier times of rampant pussy-grabbin'?
                                                          I thought he was trying to throw it for the last 5 years. Think kicking Biden from behind in a debate might do it, though even that could back-fire.
                                                          Person...Woman...Man......Camera..TV

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                                                            Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                                                            Really pathetic efforts by pisspoor journos and opposition for oppositions sake clown's Mary Lou and Rosin Shortall to try and pretend that something clear and simple is too complicated for people to understand. I suppose if people were thick enough to vote for one of them they are going to struggle with basic comprehension

                                                            Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                                            Same above here tbh. Just fairly obvious stuff that is is easily clear if you have any modicum of common sense. Like the 2.5 comment. I struggle to accept there are people who can work and cloth themselves by themselves in the morning who can't work out that that was meant to indicate 'its 2 - but its edging up'.
                                                            It's like watching a cripple fight reading the two of ye vying for the position of Ireland's shittest political commentator tbf

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                                                              Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                              Ah. In this particular situation I just couldn't see what the axis was due to being on the phone. Thank you Inspector Axis.
                                                              If Zerohedge or Bloomberg zoom out.

                                                              Good rule of thumb.

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                                                                Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                                                Time to start spending the loots buddy.


                                                                You need something more like nascar to say that to make any difference

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                                                                  Originally posted by Denny Crane View Post

                                                                  You need something more like nascar to say that to make any difference
                                                                  'Time' published an edition with a black border for the 2nd time evvvr. Time magazine!
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                                                                    Manys the few Bob he won me Smullen lost the battle this evening aged 43 . My fav after Eddery boo to proxy cancer

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                                                                      Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                                                      Same above here tbh. Just fairly obvious stuff that is is easily clear if you have any modicum of common sense. Like the 2.5 comment. I struggle to accept there are people who can work and cloth themselves by themselves in the morning who can't work out that that was meant to indicate 'its 2 - but its edging up'.
                                                                      I spend a fair bit of time programming these concepts - Irish businesses love having their custs or vendors or products graded into A,B,C or Red, Orange, Yellow, Green. It usually gets messy quickly when they feel the need to add extra categories in between which is a pain. But I've never seen it so disorganised that they need a sub-category on the first day. Seriously, either have 6 categories at the start or else change the criteria such that everywhere is in the initial 5 categories. It just looks incompetent otherwise.

                                                                      And as for your 'its 2 - but its edging up' comment. That might just make sense if the extra restrictions were coming from the 3 box. But the 'wet pubs' one in particular seems to be coming from 5.
                                                                      They can open 'outdoors only' at level 4 so presumably there are less restrictions at level 3. So Dublin is level 2 with a bit of level 5. That just doesn't make logical sense.

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                                                                        Originally posted by Denny Crane View Post

                                                                        You need something more like nascar to say that to make any difference
                                                                        Just for the avoidance of doubt, I wasn't seriously contending that Scientific American was the turning point in the race to oust Trump.
                                                                        "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                          Originally posted by Keane View Post




                                                                          It's like watching a cripple fight reading the two of ye vying for the position of Ireland's shittest political commentator tbf
                                                                          You're some man for the quips. I'd say you make your family inordinately proud.
                                                                          "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                            Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                                                            You're some man for the quips. I'd say you make your family inordinately proud.
                                                                            My family?

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                                                                              Originally posted by ArmaniJeans View Post

                                                                              I spend a fair bit of time programming these concepts - Irish businesses love having their custs or vendors or products graded into A,B,C or Red, Orange, Yellow, Green. It usually gets messy quickly when they feel the need to add extra categories in between which is a pain. But I've never seen it so disorganised that they need a sub-category on the first day. Seriously, either have 6 categories at the start or else change the criteria such that everywhere is in the initial 5 categories. It just looks incompetent otherwise.

                                                                              And as for your 'its 2 - but its edging up' comment. That might just make sense if the extra restrictions were coming from the 3 box. But the 'wet pubs' one in particular seems to be coming from 5.
                                                                              They can open 'outdoors only' at level 4 so presumably there are less restrictions at level 3. So Dublin is level 2 with a bit of level 5. That just doesn't make logical sense.
                                                                              So do you understand what is happening in Dublin right now and what is going to happen? Don't bother about these hypothetical 'but other people won't understand it as they're not like me' - do you understand it? And does anyone here not actually understand anything?

                                                                              Because that's the thing. Everyone seems to understand what is happening. They all just claim that other people won't understand it.

                                                                              And we know that everyone did actually understand it, because no-one actually asked any real questions of 'what does this mean?' - as you would if you were genuinely confused and trying to figure out what was happening?

                                                                              "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                Originally posted by Keane View Post

                                                                                My family?
                                                                                I was getting at the imagery of perhaps your proud mammy saying 'ah young keane is a great man for a quip, you should see what he says on IPB!'
                                                                                "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                  Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                                                                  I was getting at the imagery of perhaps your proud mammy saying 'ah young keane is a great man for a quip, you should see what he says on IPB!'
                                                                                  I think we'd all rather avoid thinking about what our families would say if they read what we post on IPB

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                                                                                    Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                                                                    Same above here tbh. Just fairly obvious stuff that is is easily clear if you have any modicum of common sense. Like the 2.5 comment. I struggle to accept there are people who can work and cloth themselves by themselves in the morning who can't work out that that was meant to indicate 'its 2 - but its edging up'.
                                                                                    Well if dublin moves to stage 3 there's places with less restrictions.
                                                                                    Wet pubs can open with restrictions for example. Do we jump straight to 3.5?
                                                                                    They have defined a load things but then nephet can just add more stuff which defeats the purpose.
                                                                                    There isn't a single metric in the plan I could see where public could see how we actually move through the levels and therefore maybe get behind it and trust it.
                                                                                    We are left in same scenario where they will meet and discuss a few things. Move us to a level but maybe change a few things on top.
                                                                                    Lots of the details of how various businesses/services etc can operate just say "additional restrictions". I must be an idiot if all this is v clear.
                                                                                    Last edited by eamonhonda; 15-09-20, 22:33.
                                                                                    airport, lol

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                                                                                      It was quite clear they didn't take the plan to some people who weren't close to it to pick holes and ask the difficult questions, so they could try mend said holes and prepare answers for the difficult questions. Would have imagined that would be basic enough for anyone presenting even in a small office. That's the incompetence we are dealing with
                                                                                      airport, lol

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                                                                                        Gleeson finds it hard to extend his range beyond his shtick but there is something about a few moments in this interview that capture with heartbreaking honesty the reality of what was going on.



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                                                                                          Anyone with a coinbase account want a few internet tokens?
                                                                                          https://coinbase.com/earn/xlm/invite/bw67fd8z
                                                                                          "I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. Thompson

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                                                                                            Seriously people who are having trouble understanding the restrictions are either disingenuous or thick.

                                                                                            It's not complicated, iwe can all work towards a goal of limiting the viruses spread by following the spirit and intentions of the rules no matter how little we personally understand the thinking behind them or what minor inconsistencies they contain.
                                                                                            Just fucking up and shut up, if you haven't a better plan then put it up for discussion.
                                                                                            Donnelly is a gobshite and Mehole is a charisma free zone but they are who we have and again I don't hear anyone with abetter plan.

                                                                                            Fucking sick of listening to gombeen publicans and their wet brain punters whinging.
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                                                                                              Originally posted by eamonhonda View Post
                                                                                              It was quite clear they didn't take the plan to some people who weren't close to it to pick holes and ask the difficult questions, so they could try mend said holes and prepare answers for the difficult questions. Would have imagined that would be basic enough for anyone presenting even in a small office. That's the incompetence we are dealing with
                                                                                              Yeah its a weird approach where you are assuming they are simpletons that wouldn't have thought all this through.

                                                                                              I was reading a document today on the covid employment payment - loads of emails back and forth between various senior folks in the dept finance on whether to allow directors to claim the benefit. It turns out they were reluctant to allow directors as they had heard from companies house and tax office that loads of small firms were, almost overnight, were bringing in their family members as directors in the hope that they could all claim the covid unemployment payment. But in the end they decided to allow these scam artists to claim as they weren't too plentiful and banning them would create lobbying bad news at a time when Pascal needed to sell a bigger budget idea.

                                                                                              Now - my point here is, and as you can see from this example - these folks clearly work on a vastly more complex decision field that we do. They have, and will have had, endless debates about this information presented today. All the way down to the micro level. It's ridiculous to think that they are not doing something that is, to quote you, "basic enough for anyone presenting even in a small office". Have a look at how much debate they have over even issues like the one I posted above.

                                                                                              If there are holes in what was presented today its because its complex and they need to leave holes there, not because they haven't realised there are holes. And if you want the likes of SF to tell you, like Boris tells the Brits, that things are oven-ready, simple as pie, then fire ahead and live in that pretend simple world. But things aren't that simple when they are done right and thats why they sometimes have holes in them. And thats why proper politicians don't try to paper over those, because they try to trust that people will not have a fit if everything in a unprecedented pandemic isn't pretend-perfect.
                                                                                              "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                                Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                                                                                Yeah its a weird approach where you are assuming they are simpletons that wouldn't have thought all this through.

                                                                                                I was reading a document today on the covid employment payment - loads of emails back and forth between various senior folks in the dept finance on whether to allow directors to claim the benefit. It turns out they were reluctant to allow directors as they had heard from companies house and tax office that loads of small firms were, almost overnight, were bringing in their family members as directors in the hope that they could all claim the covid unemployment payment. But in the end they decided to allow these scam artists to claim as they weren't too plentiful and banning them would create lobbying bad news at a time when Pascal needed to sell a bigger budget idea.

                                                                                                Now - my point here is, and as you can see from this example - these folks clearly work on a vastly more complex decision field that we do. They have, and will have had, endless debates about this information presented today. All the way down to the micro level. It's ridiculous to think that they are not doing something that is, to quote you, "basic enough for anyone presenting even in a small office". Have a look at how much debate they have over even issues like the one I posted above.

                                                                                                If there are holes in what was presented today its because its complex and they need to leave holes there, not because they haven't realised there are holes. And if you want the likes of SF to tell you, like Boris tells the Brits, that things are oven-ready, simple as pie, then fire ahead and live in that pretend simple world. But things aren't that simple when they are done right and thats why they sometimes have holes in them. And thats why proper politicians don't try to paper over those, because they try to trust that people will not have a fit if everything in a unprecedented pandemic isn't pretend-perfect.
                                                                                                This may partially illustrate where you're consistently going wrong because it's almost exactly factually accurate, but also almost exactly the opposite of what actually happened. In fact, the government originally explicitly intended to exclude directors because Paschal Donohoe was more worried about the scam artists than about the people legitimately claiming being excluded.

                                                                                                Earlier on Friday, Mr Donohoe had said he recognised that the exclusion of directors from the scheme was “an issue for some”. But he added that the measures had been put in place to avoid abuse of the scheme, which will cost approximately €2.2 billion to the end of March 2021
                                                                                                Later, after quite a bit of criticism from normies that you would probably have argued against going on recent form, Coveney, then Michael McGrath then eventually Paschal admitted that this was a pretty stupid idea that they had better go back and think about some more.

                                                                                                Minister for Finance Paschal Donohoe said late on Friday that he had asked Revenue to reinstate directors who retain ordinary employees on their payroll to the scheme and has also asked his department to review the provision.

                                                                                                The U-turn comes after many businesses owners expressed anger at being excluded from the scheme in a move that would effectively leave them without any income.

                                                                                                It also followed commitments from fellow Ministers Michael McGrath and Simon Coveney to find a solution.
                                                                                                https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...sidy-1.4318810

                                                                                                So like, the 4d chess doyens in the dept of finance did literally start off with the position that you thought only a simpleton wouldn't have thought through, and then quickly, publicly, embarrassingly but correctly reassessed based on legitimate criticism from the general public.
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                                                                                                  Lads it not up for debate is it? Mehole is shite, buck stops there. today was a bad day for govt. they introduced the system which they didn't follow. bullshit if they can't use it it won't last

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                                                                                                    Originally posted by paul8200 View Post
                                                                                                    Lads it not up for debate is it? Mehole is shite, buck stops there. today was a bad day for govt. they introduced the system which they didn't follow. bullshit if they can't use it it won't last
                                                                                                    In fairness I actually have time for Micheal, as in I'd be surprised to learn he wasn't a fundamentally very decent man. I think he's really misreading the mood of the nation since he took office though if he's responsible for the sort of dithering equivocation that's characterised the government's communications pretty much since they started.

                                                                                                    Interestingly they were all excellent around Brexit again in the last week. I wonder is it a coincidence that the bit they're all nailing is the bit Coveney is in charge of.

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                                                                                                      Played Slade Valley today

                                                                                                      Beautiful.

                                                                                                      Only 16 holes in play due to drainage work on 2 holes.
                                                                                                      Apparently they got a grant for €30k from.the NSC

                                                                                                      Game was in beautiful synch
                                                                                                      34 points over 16, 250M drives, had 4 of my birdie attempts turn into bogeys before I got settled.


                                                                                                      4th game this year

                                                                                                      15 was HCAP in 2014

                                                                                                      I have hit 300M but that was with a huge draw

                                                                                                      Swing changed due to not playing consistently and dropped to 200/230 mark but the last 2 outings putting more muscle with full wrap swing into it and connecting sweetly.


                                                                                                      Might apply to a state board myself!



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                                                                                                        Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                                                                                                        Seriously people who are having trouble understanding the restrictions are either disingenuous or thick.

                                                                                                        It's not complicated, iwe can all work towards a goal of limiting the viruses spread by following the spirit and intentions of the rules no matter how little we personally understand the thinking behind them or what minor inconsistencies they contain.
                                                                                                        Just fucking up and shut up, if you haven't a better plan then put it up for discussion.
                                                                                                        Donnelly is a gobshite and Mehole is a charisma free zone but they are who we have and again I don't hear anyone with abetter plan.

                                                                                                        Fucking sick of listening to gombeen publicans and their wet brain punters whinging.
                                                                                                        Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly had said residents in Dublin “absolutely can” travel outside the county.

                                                                                                        However, Taoiseach Micheál Martin later clarified the advice from the National Public Health Emergency Team (NPHET) was that while people were being encouraged not to travel outside Dublin, but there was no regulation attached to it.

                                                                                                        “I am encouraging people not to travel, if at all possible,” Mr Martin told RTÉ.

                                                                                                        Tánaiste Leo Varadkar was more emphatic last night, telling RTÉ’s PrimeTime that the Government was “strongly discouraging people from travelling outside of Dublin city or county unless it’s necessary.

                                                                                                        “That might be for work reasons. It might be to care for somebody. . . It really wouldn’t be to take a weekend away”.
                                                                                                        Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly had said residents in Dublin “absolutely can” travel outside the county.

                                                                                                        However, Taoiseach Micheál Martin later clarified the advice from the National Public Health Emergency Team (NPHET) was that while people were being encouraged not to travel outside Dublin, but there was no regulation attached to it.

                                                                                                        “I am encouraging people not to travel, if at all possible,” Mr Martin told RTÉ.

                                                                                                        Tánaiste Leo Varadkar was more emphatic last night, telling RTÉ’s PrimeTime that the Government was “strongly discouraging people from travelling outside of Dublin city or county unless it’s necessary.

                                                                                                        “That might be for work reasons. It might be to care for somebody. . . It really wouldn’t be to take a weekend away”.
                                                                                                        https://www.irishtimes.com/news/heal...plan-1.4355832
                                                                                                        Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                                                                                                          Originally posted by Keane View Post

                                                                                                          My family?
                                                                                                          I think he's probably pointing out that you like to drop into debates, make a snarky comment but never provide any level of analysis or insight yourself.
                                                                                                          "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                            Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                                                                                                            Seriously people who are having trouble understanding the restrictions are either disingenuous or thick.

                                                                                                            It's not complicated, iwe can all work towards a goal of limiting the viruses spread by following the spirit and intentions of the rules no matter how little we personally understand the thinking behind them or what minor inconsistencies they contain.
                                                                                                            Just fucking up and shut up, if you haven't a better plan then put it up for discussion.
                                                                                                            Donnelly is a gobshite and Mehole is a charisma free zone but they are who we have and again I don't hear anyone with abetter plan.

                                                                                                            Fucking sick of listening to gombeen publicans and their wet brain punters whinging.
                                                                                                            Tying this to your Sinn fein obsession is strange here.

                                                                                                            The public cannot see how we move through levels, and the clearly mean feck all as they can be changed. This is the same public you need to comply to live with the virus. We can all clearly understand the actual restrictions, but with little transparency of how we move through them people won't trust them or comply.
                                                                                                            If it's a case that it's the public's fault, and your Sinn fein voters are lacking intelligence to understand compared to the genius levels found in this thread, well then it's the governments job to create a plan that they understand, because if we don't have a high level of compliance we are fairly fucked. They make up a large portion of our public.
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                                                                                                            Just" fucking up and shut up" is another great plan. We are dealing with humans with breaking points who want to live lives. Theres more impacts than covid deaths. Just fucking up and shutting up has been going great the last few weeks.
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                                                                                                            airport, lol

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                                                                                                              Originally posted by Keane View Post

                                                                                                              This may partially illustrate where you're consistently going wrong because it's almost exactly factually accurate, but also almost exactly the opposite of what actually happened. In fact, the government originally explicitly intended to exclude directors because Paschal Donohoe was more worried about the scam artists than about the people legitimately claiming being excluded.



                                                                                                              Later, after quite a bit of criticism from normies that you would probably have argued against going on recent form, Coveney, then Michael McGrath then eventually Paschal admitted that this was a pretty stupid idea that they had better go back and think about some more.



                                                                                                              https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...sidy-1.4318810

                                                                                                              So like, the 4d chess doyens in the dept of finance did literally start off with the position that you thought only a simpleton wouldn't have thought through, and then quickly, publicly, embarrassingly but correctly reassessed based on legitimate criticism from the general public.
                                                                                                              It's this freedom of information release from yesterday I was referring to, not a journalists mistaken interpretation from July. How did you manage to look up the story yesterday and not see this, and instead could only find an indirect source from July that supported your dodgy viewpoint?! It's almost impressive anti-googling. E.g. read the Revenue Commissioner article. They, as finance dept folk, raised the issue, not politicians. All the opposition politicians did was lead to money being fraudulently paid.


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                                                                                                              "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                                                What are you confused about, from the advice given yesterday, about how to live your life today eammo? I'd say together we can read through the vast enclyopedias of information and help you sort your life out.

                                                                                                                "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                                                  Originally posted by eamonhonda View Post
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                                                                                                                  The public cannot see how we move through levels, and the clearly mean feck all as they can be changed. This is the same public you need to comply to live with the virus. We can all clearly understand the actual restrictions, but with little transparency of how we move through them people won't trust them or comply.
                                                                                                                  What bit do you not understand ?
                                                                                                                  The lower Levels of the framework will be activated when there is low incidence of the disease, with isolated outbreaks, low community transmission. The higher Levels will be used to deal with higher incidences of the disease.
                                                                                                                  Turning millions into thousands

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                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post

                                                                                                                    What bit do you not understand ?
                                                                                                                    Define it, some metrics or at least a range. Like other countries have. Like the EU commission have for travel. Whats low? Have we a realistic definition of low incidence while still opening up? or we expecting a unrealistic low incidence in which case we just keep going in and out of semi lockdowns where people just break and say fuck this. What is the max admissions/cases per 100k/ICU levels/R number where health trumps economy and we lockdown.

                                                                                                                    The listed 8 criteria they would use to apply the levels but didnt provide any idea of the weighting or ranges for these criteria. If they are as intelligent as hitch suggests then they could provide transparency on how decisions will be made. What, dont tell the plebs they wouldnt get it? Maybe if they understand we will see higher levels of compliance. Its their job to make us understand

                                                                                                                    Otherwise @Hitch i dont understand the clusterfuck that is dublin, the fact that they defined 5 levels and it doesnt fit in any of them. The fact thats its suggested its between 2 and 3 even though the restrictions in 3 are more lenient in places. It shows that the plan they set out means fuck all as they can and will just change it. I dont think a plan built on such confusion will gain the public trust we need to comply.
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                                                                                                                        Not sure if my new background is just quirky, or offensive

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                                                                                                                          level 3 incoming.
                                                                                                                          They are gonna have to do it to stop the ambiguity, either real or imagined
                                                                                                                          People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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