Bad beat/Moaning/Venting thread - BabyforV

[oleras]

Why doesn't RasTa post here anymore ?

[CHDad]

Why doesn't RasTa post here anymore ?

Pasta allergy.

[oleras]

Pasta allergy.

If its because of that its silly imo.

He is missed.

[CHDad]

If its because of that its silly imo.

He is missed.

Who?

[pokerhand]

Who?

Were you behind the pasta account?

[Mellor]

Were you behind the pasta account?

What do you mean "behind"?
I get the feeling you are suggesting something, but can't quite pinpoint it.

[CHDad]

Were you behind the pasta account?

Nope, but I was informed that it was SatNav and MrsFD.

[CHDad]

What do you mean "behind"?
I get the feeling you are suggesting something, but can't quite pinpoint it.

Are you going to the UFC? What time will it start Irish time? About 24 hours from now?

[Mellor]

Are you going to the UFC? What time will it start Irish time? About 24 hours from now?

Yeah I'm going.
Prelims start at midnight Irish time, and the main card at 3am.

It's 11am/2pm my time. Will be messy by close of business.

[CHDad]

Yeah I'm going.
Prelims start at midnight Irish time, and the main card at 3am.

It's 11am/2pm my time. Will be messy by close of business.

That's weird timing.

tyty, enjoy.

[BobSloane]

Wow! wtf?

What's this?

bbv blues. vocal,guitar,whistle bobsloane. based on an arrangement by wombatman. based on original lyrics by gimmeabreak. expect to see it in eurocision 2015

[Mellor]

That's weird timing.

tyty, enjoy.

Yeah sounds strange to other going to the event at that time, but a normal american PPV event is on at that time on a sunday. After years of it, i'm kinda used to watching them at that time.

[Raoul Duke III]

How to get people not to pay for a service:

Step 1 - publicly declare there will be no reduction in service for those who refuse to pay.

Job done. Alan Kelly, take a bow.

[Lazare]

bbv blues. vocal,guitar,whistle bobsloane. based on an arrangement by wombatman. based on original lyrics by gimmeabreak. expect to see it in eurocision 2015

Deadly man, don't know how I missed it first time around.

What's your recording set up?

[Silver-Tiger]

How to get people not to pay for a service:

Step 1 - publicly declare there will be no reduction in service for those who refuse to pay.

Job done. Alan Kelly, take a bow.

Could he be in trouble for this?

Some job.

[CHDad]

Yeah sounds strange to other going to the event at that time, but a normal american PPV event is on at that time on a sunday. After years of it, i'm kinda used to watching them at that time.

Is that for the American market?

Longshot and it would never get a licence but a late PPV card in Dublin would be amazing.

[Megatron]

15 year old you, ya kinda would, with reservations

Read a report that the poor lad was High fived to death.

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[shano_88]

2 tickets to Dara O Brien in Killarney tomorrow night free if anyone wants them

[Lord Sir Banter]

Good morning comrades.

[ghostface]

Oh Laser Discs. How much we loved you once upon a time. Those three Star War movies you introduced is to one Christmas. Old Boy for the gore. Infernal Affairs so we could mock Sorcese's subsequent Hollywood efforts. That random Japanese movie that turned out, as hoped, to be some weird take on snuff porn. Your part in history will be recorded (in a torrent probably, definitely not a dvd, we're not prehistoric beasts)

Sad times indeed, although I'd imagine I'm pretty much the type of customer who screwed them. Went from buying loads of DVDs there to wandering round the shop and getting titles to download later. RIP

[LuckyLloyd]

How to get people not to pay for a service:

Step 1 - publicly declare there will be no reduction in service for those who refuse to pay.

Job done. Alan Kelly, take a bow.

He's just speaking the truth. It was never a real threat as it would never be allowed to stand in the areas where there will high rates of non payment.

It's refreshing to see how public protests are being effective however.

[Strewelpeter]

No man, always keep Jools for Fri night. Didn't realise they were on, deadly.

I'm going to see The Lost Brothers in Whelans tomorrow night, be nice to come home to that.

Went to see them in Naas last night, there were no more than about 30 people at the gig but they still played a stormer.
The new album is their best IMO its just a shame they aren't reaching a much bigger audience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkU7SUKux9A

[Megatron]

Very Punny

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[coillcam]

Up in Dublin next week for training with work.

Any recommendations for events or gigs worth checking out while I'm there?

[BobSloane]

Deadly man, don't know how I missed it first time around.

What's your recording set up?

Phone hanging over edge of table

[Denny Crane]

He's just speaking the truth. It was never a real threat as it would never be allowed to stand in the areas where there will high rates of non payment.

It's refreshing to see how public protests are being effective however.

I just can't believe people are putting this kind of effort into something that's effectively a couple of euro a week (plus it's something people pay for it in almost every other country). At this stage you'd have to suspect: hours spent protesting x min wage >>>> charges

[dobby]

2 tickets to Dara O Brien in Killarney tomorrow night free if anyone wants them

Yes please if you still have them? Can they be printed from email?

[Lazare]

Went to see them in Naas last night, there were no more than about 30 people at the gig but they still played a stormer.
The new album is their best IMO its just a shame they aren't reaching a much bigger audience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkU7SUKux9A

Yeah, it's fantastic. They're playing some really cool intimate gigs lately, they were in a pub in Ballymore Eustace last Mon, had to work late, was gutted I missed it.

[Lazare]

Phone hanging over edge of table

Lol, me too. You've a cracking voice man.

I'm looking to get set up with something half decent for home recording, any ideas?

[DeadParrot]

Any decent movie streaming sites?

shobox app is pretty killer
icefilms.info
shush.se
moviereel

[AndyFatBastard]

Lol, me too. You've a cracking voice man.

I'm looking to get set up with something half decent for home recording, any ideas?

One of my coworkers went down this rabbit hole recently. There's a shop on Capel St which has relatively low-bullshit, helpful salesmen, who were happy enough to explain the difference between €200 and €2000 kit and why he didn't need the latter.

[Zod]

One of my coworkers went down this rabbit hole recently. There's a shop on Capel St which has relatively low-bullshit, helpful salesmen, who were happy enough to explain the difference between €200 and €2000 kit and why he didn't need the latter.

Sounds Around. very good for that kind of stuff.

[Raoul Duke III]

Could he be in trouble for this?

Some job.

His party leader is probably delighted with him so from his pov, it's all good in da hood.

Although he's actually being disingenuous as the option to garnish wages\social welfare still exists (as per the LPT).

In practical terms it's clearly fucking stupid. ESB will cut you off if you don't pay so setting up different policies for different utilities is just political meddling at its worst. Much better to get out there and make the case for water charges in a reasoned manner rather than just responding to every latest headline. As Denny points out quite rightly, this is nowhere near the Top Ten of things that people get screwed on in this country.

[Raoul Duke III]

I just can't believe people are putting this kind of effort into something that's effectively a couple of euro a week (plus it's something people pay for it in almost every other country). At this stage you'd have to suspect: hours spent protesting x min wage >>>> charges

I look forward to seeing huge anti-VAT marches this weekend

[CHDad]

One of my coworkers went down this rabbit hole recently. There's a shop on Capel St which has relatively low-bullshit, helpful salesmen, who were happy enough to explain the difference between €200 and €2000 kit and why he didn't need the latter.

[Iago]

I just can't believe people are putting this kind of effort into something that's effectively a couple of euro a week (plus it's something people pay for it in almost every other country). At this stage you'd have to suspect: hours spent protesting x min wage >>>> charges

Rightly or wrongly, I can't help but think this is the first time the majority of protesters have actually had a tax they had to pay (excluding vat which they don't consider obviously)

That may be a bit close minded of me, but I can't see any other reason for it to be honest.

[Lazare]

One of my coworkers went down this rabbit hole recently. There's a shop on Capel St which has relatively low-bullshit, helpful salesmen, who were happy enough to explain the difference between €200 and €2000 kit and why he didn't need the latter.

Sounds Around. very good for that kind of stuff.

Cheers lads

[AndyFatBastard]

Rightly or wrongly, I can't help but think this is the first time the majority of protesters have actually had a tax they had to pay (excluding vat which they don't consider obviously)

That may be a bit close minded of me, but I can't see any other reason for it to be honest.

Wow. Just... wow.

[Strewelpeter]

It's refreshing to see how public protests are being effective however.

Its a shame that it went as far as getting the private army involved, though the shadow of the gunman theme will go down well with the crowd at the $500 a plate Manhattan Marquee tonight

[Strewelpeter]

Wow. Just... wow.

[shano_88]

Yes please if you still have them? Can they be printed from email?

Ya, pm your email.

[DeadParrot]

Few will agree with me but still think labels that skip the mailbox are better. I stick all those type of mails into a group to look at every so often, another label for upcoming events /different accounts, with only actually important mails going into the inbox and creating notifications.

It gets a little bothersome where you are managing multiple email addresses on one account as the labels then technically skip the inbox and two labels are applied.

[CHDad]

Protesters are bandwagon jumpers. Should have been out in their masses 4/5 years ago. Sheep.

[Denny Crane]

I look forward to seeing huge anti-VAT marches this weekend

Is it really just a case that it's a simple transparent tax?

Vat/USC/pension levy are magnitudes higher and yet not a peep.

[Denny Crane]

Rightly or wrongly, I can't help but think this is the first time the majority of protesters have actually had a tax they had to pay (excluding vat which they don't consider obviously)

That may be a bit close minded of me, but I can't see any other reason for it to be honest.

I can't believe you'd make that sort of accusation at the fine patriots that spend their weekdays obstructing the installation of water meters across the country!

[Mellor]

Is that for the American market?

Longshot and it would never get a licence but a late PPV card in Dublin would be amazing.

Yeah to suite the US. They get away with it here as its "normal".
Late PPV in dublin would be class, but also probably a disaster

[Emmet]

Anyone know any good barbers in Bali?

[Raoul Duke III]

Is it really just a case that it's a simple transparent tax?

Vat/USC/pension levy are magnitudes higher and yet not a peep.

I think that's the essence of it. The simple act of writing a cheque to 'the government' is clearly far more unpalatable than paying through the nose for baked-in taxes such as the ones you mention.

In which case yes, the government should scrap water charges and increase VAT by 1%. Job done (everyone is worse off especially the poor but hey at least we don't have to pay The Man for water, free delivery of which is our God-given right. Just don't mention the fact that every other western democracy already imposes domestic water charges).

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[NewApproach]

Is it really just a case that it's a simple transparent tax?

Vat/USC/pension levy are magnitudes higher and yet not a peep.

Of course. I sent an invoice out to a guy once and got a barrage of abuse the next day, saying how he isn't VAT registered, never pays VAT and why were we charging him VAT on the invoice!

[Raoul Duke III]

The environment weeps a little. Use too much water -> taytos cost more.

Well obviously nobody protesting water charges gives a flying fuck about the environment!

[AndyFatBastard]

You're confused by my distaste for a ludicrous demonstration of rampant classism?

[LuckyLloyd]

Its a shame that it went as far as getting the private army involved, though the shadow of the gunman theme will go down well with the crowd at the $500 a plate Manhattan Marquee tonight

What are you blathering on about?

Well obviously nobody protesting water charges gives a flying fuck about the environment!

Clearly neither do the government!! There are rumblings of flat rate charges from Bruton and Kenny.

Fun times. This thread told us that there would be no changes; no roll back on the key points; registration rates wouldn't matter; protests irrelevant. Why would anyone continue to take ye seriously is my genuine question?

Keep squeezing. Don't pay.

[ArmaniJeans]

Why do ~100% of retailers in Ireland show prices inc VAT? You could see how it causes people to not even be aware that they are paying such a tax.
Its always annoying in America when you have exact change ready and then the till operator clicks the button to add 11% Sales Tax to the stated price, but it does make it more transparent.
Is it compulsory in Ireland to price inc VAT or did it just happen that way.

Re water charges - there is probably a solid enough case to abandon it at this stage. Obviously it would be a courageous step which would lead to short term flak, however its probably far enough away from the GE that they could just about do it now.
If as now appears likely the total expense of putting in the metering/billing systems, inc gardai time and time wasted by other state bodies, added to the whole hassle of getting people to pay - if that sum is going to mean that the income gained is going to be far less than planned then really its time for sensible heads to prevail and just abandon it.

Or alternatively go hardball on it like RD3 would, but the current middle road softly softly attitude isn't working.
Personally I'd do a tactical withdrawal if I was EK, save a bit of face by saying we are delaying charges until 2028 or suchlike in a classic 'pass the parcel' solution. Make waters meters compulsory for all house sales/new builds/extensions/improvement grants etc in the meantime.

[LuckyLloyd]

Rightly or wrongly, I can't help but think this is the first time the majority of protesters have actually had a tax they had to pay (excluding vat which they don't consider obviously)

That may be a bit close minded of me, but I can't see any other reason for it to be honest.

Continue to not listen. Seems to be working for the current government. A huge range of those protesting take issue with the setup of IW; the way in which the money will be used; etc. We already pay for water don't forget.

[Denny Crane]

Don't pay.

Why?

[LuckyLloyd]

Why?

So that the government are forced to revisit the charge / IW setup.

[Megatron]

So that the government are forced to revisit the charge / IW setup.

Do you think a revisit is likely given that they have come this far and started installing meters?
Where will the money come from for the work that has been done to date?