Bad beat/Moaning/Venting thread - BabyforV

[LuckyLloyd]

Always wonder why people are so interested into getting into the BA side of things tbh. Doesn't appeal to me at all looking from the QA side of the coin.

[LuckyLloyd]

Pretty much all the evidence is that increasing the cycling mode share is tremendously beneficial for the country. The issue is the gains are long term and a little harder to measure.

Yeah, but if you're at 1.6% there is simply too far to go to make it a worthwhile resource / policy pursuit imo. You could increase cycling mode share by 400% over a decade (a tremendous achievement) and still end up with a fairly minimal relative impact.

[dobby]

This Donegal Galway game is like two teams who have no interest in winning. Poor game.

[iSnow]

Not sure it's all been enacted but substantially in force AFAIK. Best of luck to him/her

It's a step in the right direction. As long as legislation is defined we can operate within the boundries of such. An interesting development is the introduction of a class E fine for a section 27 offence:

So an underage punter may be fined up to €500 for setting up a gaming account and placing a bet. This has the potential to turn the tables in relation to compliance, KYC etc.

[Tar.Aldarion]

Either of the cash transfers imo, probably the unconditional numero uno.

Nope, they are both more than 200 times worst than the most effective there, with each 100e spent on them giving less than 1/10th of a year more to a child in school.
The most effective there gives 21 years more education per 100e. The second best gives 14 years.

This is why I love looking up effective analysis of things, it's often very counter intuitive.
It's a big part of looking at activism in general or at effective charity and changes to national systems. And really fucks things over like "well this is how you would change things, it's so obvious!"

[DeadParrot]

Always wonder why people are so interested into getting into the BA side of things tbh. Doesn't appeal to me at all looking from the QA side of the coin.

also the hope to end this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg

[Lazare]

What does BA mean?

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

...

[DeadParrot]

What does BA mean?

BA ain't mean

[LuckyLloyd]

also the hope to end this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg

Money, well...there's certainly a strata in QA and Dev that can get paid as well.

The expert stuff is somewhat understandable, but you just have to learn to make your case and leave it be I guess.

[davepoke/her]

Ian McfuckingShane just got cast for GoT season 6!

[6starpool]

What does BA mean?

BA = Business Analyst. Essentially the translator between purely business and purely IT people, taking high level "we want to do XYZ" from business people and turning into something the IT teams can use to actually build what the business want.

Fascinating stuff. Well, no, not really actually.

[dobby]

For any astro/soccer players here. sports direct have a sale on. I got an email about it being Puma only but there's a few pairs of Adidas there too. I just got my new boots for the season for €35 reduced from €100. Picked up a PSV jersey while I was there. Sure why not.

[Guest]

[QUOTE=dobby;913332]For any astro/soccer players here. sports direct have a sale on. I got an email about it being Puma only but there's a few pairs of Adidas there too. I just got my new boots for the season for €35 reduced from €100. Picked up a PSV jersey while I was there. Sure why not.[/QUOT

When i see someone wearing a football jersey i think skanger.

[CHDad]

For any astro/soccer players here. sports direct have a sale on. I got an email about it being Puma only but there's a few pairs of Adidas there too. I just got my new boots for the season for €35 reduced from €100. Picked up a PSV jersey while I was there. Sure why not.

When i see someone wearing a football jersey i think skanger.

When I buy pizza I cook it then eat it cause I like pizza.

[CHDad]

View of the Aurora Australis from the ISS

[japeye]

Anyone able to give me a rough idea what time Ronda Rousey is on tonight?

[ComradeCollie]

Anyone able to give me a rough idea what time Ronda Rousey is on tonight?

Disapointed that's not a new sitcom

[CHDad]

Anyone able to give me a rough idea what time Ronda Rousey is on tonight?

Lots of fights tonight so it is hard to know. Somewhere between 5am and 6am depending on how the earlier fights go. Probably closer to 6am.

[dobby]

[QUOTE=Sickpuppy;913333]

For any astro/soccer players here. sports direct have a sale on. I got an email about it being Puma only but there's a few pairs of Adidas there too. I just got my new boots for the season for €35 reduced from €100. Picked up a PSV jersey while I was there. Sure why not.[/QUOT

When i see someone wearing a football jersey i think skanger.

Good for you bro. Must be a nightmare watching sport for ya.

[mdoug]

Anyone able to give me a rough idea what time Ronda Rousey is on tonight?

~5am

[MrsFlushdraw]

Ian McfuckingShane just got cast for GoT season 6!

Is that Jaqen H'ghar as your avatar?

No likely Mcshane?

[LuckyLloyd]

@CHD: Rousey to win?

[dobby]

~5am

Sweet. Getting up at 6 to head for Croker so may as well get up an hour earlier to watch that.

Rouse will surely do it in the 1st or 2nd round?

[ComradeCollie]

So, introducing the second ash-tray seems to have had the desired effect. Though it's just typical that Rothmans went for the Silk Cut one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaBTemi9mQo

Meh, rang the dspca, and their offering was a loan of a trap, and reduced priced neutering. Sorry but I just couldn't be arsed. Come winter, I head out and arrive home in darkness, no way I'm keeping an eye on them.

Bought a couple of these bad boys



and they seem to have fucked right off. Felt like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8A0uUYuId8

[CHDad]

@CHD: Rousey to win?

Handily. There is always a punchers chance but Rousey will clinch, throw and then finish it with strikes or a submission pretty quickly probably. I hope not but this girl isn't up to much and Rouseys Judo makes her a Lion against Cats.

[Wombatman]

Cocksucking White Walkers

[RoadSweeper]

Handily. There is always a punchers chance but Rousey will clinch, throw and then finish it with strikes or a submission pretty quickly probably. I hope not but this girl isn't up to much and Rouseys Judo makes her a Lion against Cats.

Not think it's her toughest test to date? Not that that means much as the gap is still huge.

[coillcam]

Jesus Christ, buying a used car is tilt inducing. Nice car in good shape = scraped (someone was bribed) through NCT and an absolute wreck. A couple of marks, usual wear and tear = attempted break in and about to fall apart.

I'll surely meet this guy next:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBw-aEixWuo

[CHDad]

Not think it's her toughest test to date? Not that that means much as the gap is still huge.

No. She has never beaten anyone of note. She got this fight because she beat Rondas m8s who are lolbad, kept calling out Rousey, Brazil needed a headliner that would sell. Hype it up, you have UFC 190.

Zingano and Tate are the only two who could land that lucky game changer/finish against her. Holly Holm might be able to jab and dance around her to a decision and take a round or two but she isn't progressing as much as I thought she would. It's a pity Joanna Jedrzejczyk isn't a bigger woman, that's the only kind of style and skill level I see threatening Rousey.

[CHDad]

Looks like BT have now snatched La Liga from Sky.

Sky launched a European Football channel last season and now only have Scottish and Dutch football for it. They throw in MLS too.

BT have CL, EL, Spanish, German, French and Portugese football.

Good old competition, will be great for the consumer...

[Guest]

Looks like BT have now snatched La Liga from Sky.

Sky launched a European Football channel last season and now only have Scottish and Dutch football for it. They throw in MLS too.

BT have CL, EL, Spanish, German, French and Portugese football.

Good old competition, will be great for the consumer...

Yeah its shite isn't it,near 60 quid a month if you go for both. Just signed up to standard/BT for the standard 1 euro deal,1 euro first month but you pay normal price for mandatory second month. Not sure why I did,will only watch a handful of premium games and the 2 UFC ppvs.
Need to join the 21st century and set up some sort of streaming box

[CHDad]

Yeah its shite isn't it,near 60 quid a month if you go for both. Just signed up for the standard 1 euro deal,1 euro first month but you pay normal price for mandatory second month. Not sure why I did,will only watch a handful of premium games and the 2 UFC pivs.
Need to join the 21st century and set up some sort of streaming box

Yeah, it is ridic. Might be more? If it isn't I'm sure it will be soon. BT prices should shoot up.

[ArmaniJeans]

Times publishing stats today on Irish commuting, claiming that a mere 1.6% of all journeys are via cycling. If true, I would suggest any public policy / resource dedicated to improving cycling infrastructure, etc be shelved and the money diverted to public transport investment. The numbers are too small to be worth a government focus.

Times is surprisingly anti-cycling over the last few years, from memory one of their senior contributors had a run-in with a bike and their editorial policy has been wholly negative since. Haven't read the article but '1.6% of all journeys' seems a nonsense metric to apply to cycling. At least narrow it down to journeys where cycling should be a theoretical option and then see what the %s are. So leave out bricklayers vans, 15k+ commutes, commercial deliveries etc. And see if we have a worthwhile percentage to build on.

Been some great improvements over the last few years, always heartening to see the huge volume of cyclists along the grand canal route at rush hour. Very hard to see it and say the money spent hasn't been worthwhile.
Some negatives as well, yesterdays FPN introduction is quite sad - basically the authorities saying that they are going to harshly apply to cyclists a set of traffic regulations that only exist in the first place because of the presence of motorised traffic on our streets. So 'car supremacy' confirmed by the lawmakers.
Would love if a cycling organisation in Dublin organised the protest that took place in SanFran this week where 100 cyclists went single file perfectly obeying every stop sign and red/amber light, didn't shoal or edge past white lines - it brought areas of the city to a standstill within minutes.

[LuckyLloyd]

Times is surprisingly anti-cycling over the last few years, from memory one of their senior contributors had a run-in with a bike and their editorial policy has been wholly negative since. Haven't read the article but '1.6% of all journeys' seems a nonsense metric to apply to cycling. At least narrow it down to journeys where cycling should be a theoretical option and then see what the %s are. So leave out bricklayers vans, 15k+ commutes, commercial deliveries etc. And see if we have a worthwhile percentage to build on.

Been some great improvements over the last few years, always heartening to see the huge volume of cyclists along the grand canal route at rush hour. Very hard to see it and say the money spent hasn't been worthwhile.
Some negatives as well, yesterdays FPN introduction is quite sad - basically the authorities saying that they are going to harshly apply to cyclists a set of traffic regulations that only exist in the first place because of the presence of motorised traffic on our streets. So 'car supremacy' confirmed by the lawmakers.
Would love if a cycling organisation in Dublin organised the protest that took place in SanFran this week where 100 cyclists went single file perfectly obeying every stop sign and red/amber light, didn't shoal or edge past white lines - it brought areas of the city to a standstill within minutes.

But they seem to be a tiny minority of the people commuting in total, dwarfed by cars / people walking / packed rush hour public transport. That's where policy and resources needs to be focussed.

[ArmaniJeans]

But they seem to be a tiny minority of the people commuting in total, dwarfed by cars / people walking / packed rush hour public transport. That's where policy and resources needs to be focussed.

CSO say 5.9% of commuting to work journeys are by bicycle in Dublin, which blows your 1.6% figure clean out of the water. Is 5.9% not something to work with and consider a justifiable basis to increase spending? Clearly the IrishTimes 1.6% figure must have been arrived at by including Ballyshannon to Bundoran type commutes, but no-one is actually proposing spending any money on cycling infrastructure for such journeys - the money is generally on cycling projects in our largest urban areas.
Also that 5.9% figure doesn't count anyone like me who part cycles on a DB before finishing the bulk of the commute on a bus as the cso only count primary mode, so the actual figure is likely higher.

[iSnow]

But they seem to be a tiny minority of the people commuting in total, dwarfed by cars / people walking / packed rush hour public transport. That's where policy and resources needs to be focussed.

For any of you sharpies, there's a nice wedge to be made facilitating cycling options on the planned national greenways. Your local LEO office will salivate over a well structured business plan. There are a myriad of grants available for such a venture..

[LuckyLloyd]

CSO say 5.9% of commuting to work journeys are by bicycle in Dublin, which blows your 1.6% figure clean out of the water. Is 5.9% not something to work with and consider a justifiable basis to increase spending? Clearly the IrishTimes 1.6% figure must have been arrived at by including Ballyshannon to Bundoran type commutes, but no-one is actually proposing spending any money on cycling infrastructure for such journeys - the money is generally on cycling projects in our largest urban areas.
Also that 5.9% figure doesn't count anyone like me who part cycles on a DB before finishing the bulk of the commute on a bus as the cso only count primary mode, so the actual figure is likely higher.

It's 6 out of 100. Hence a 'tiny minority'. And if it's 5.9% in Dublin, the figures outside of Dublin must be infestimal when the national figure is 1.6%.

If there are limited resources, they should be focussed on improving the more dominant forms of transport, particularly public transport.

[ghostface]

It's 6 out of 100. Hence a 'tiny minority'. And if it's 5.9% in Dublin, the figures outside of Dublin must be infestimal when the national figure is 1.6%.

If there are limited resources, they should be focussed on improving the more dominant forms of transport, particularly public transport.

Problem is public transport costs a shit load of money where you can stick in a few cycle lanes for relatively cheap. Also, DCC Chief Executive is a huge advocate of cycling and improving mobility management this way so dublin city will be heading this way for the foreseeable future.

[ArmaniJeans]

It's 6 out of 100. Hence a 'tiny minority'. And if it's 5.9% in Dublin, the figures outside of Dublin must be infestimal when the national figure is 1.6%.

If there are limited resources, they should be focussed on improving the more dominant forms of transport, particularly public transport.

Yes, the figures are infinitesimal in many areas but again no-one is suggesting spending money in these areas, the money is to be spent in urban areas.
I don't see anything small about the 6% figure btw, to say that nothing more should be spent because the figure is only 6% seems like an anti-cycling bias. Notwithstanding that the actual figure is likely even higher because of the quirks in cso calculations and that they relate to the 2011 census which predates a lot of the urban cycling infrastructure.

How about 'bang for buck' calculations by the way - if cycling in Dublin is 6% and public transport is say 60% then its a simple enough comparision. And I suspect the public transport subsidy + apportioned cost of Luas construction is more than 10x that of yearly cycling spend?

[CHDad]

What you at AJ m8

[ArmaniJeans]

What you at AJ m8

Wrecked, did 5K run at silly o'clock Saturday morning, then had barbacue in afternoon/evening. Chillin watching 4 minute snippets of programmes I recorded (grrm interview, britain v bookies, trev mc donald mafia). On final half bottle of wine.
Hows chdworld?

[6starpool]

Yeah its shite isn't it,near 60 quid a month if you go for both. Just signed up to standard/BT for the standard 1 euro deal,1 euro first month but you pay normal price for mandatory second month. Not sure why I did,will only watch a handful of premium games and the 2 UFC ppvs.
Need to join the 21st century and set up some sort of streaming box

I still have about 4 months left in a 12 months for €99 deal for setanta including BT. I doubt that'll happen again this year but it'd be nice.

[CHDad]

Rousey will be after 6am at this rate. Might go bed and just watch the fight in a gif tomorrow.

[DeadParrot]

Rousey will be after 6am at this rate. Might go bed and just watch the fight in a gif tomorrow.

heavy weights are good

[CHDad]

heavy weights are good

This is true, try sleep after this one.

[Lord Sir Banter]

Express dedicated bus lanes which are marked with bright bollards. Prirorite at intersections. Luas style ticketing, no interaction with drivers. Three sets of doors on the buses, not stopping every 40 yards. .

[CHDad]

Express dedicated bus lanes which are marked with bright bollards. Prirorite at intersections. Luas style ticketing, no interaction with drivers. Three sets of doors on the buses, not stopping every 40 yards. .

You ok m8

[Lord Sir Banter]

also the hope to end this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg

Selling out to the man? SIAD

[Lord Sir Banter]

You ok m8

yea m8
are you?

[CHDad]

yea m8
are you?

Pretty out of it on strong painkillers m8. Feel class and shit.

[DeadParrot]

feeling class is class

[Lord Sir Banter]

it is tbf

[DeadParrot]

Help me Ronda

[DeadParrot]

SPOILER

fucking hell that is hilarious, I've had longer pisses

[dobby]

I had forgotten how shit it feels to get up this early.

[CHDad]

Rousey will be after 6am at this rate. Might go bed and just watch the fight in a gif tomorrow.

Yup

[Guest]

Bit sad about La Liga going to BT. Enjoyed the no-fanfare setup on Sky and will miss Rob Palmer and Gerry Armstrong as commentators. Gerry wasn't technically very good, but it was like watching matches with a cheerful granddad.

[SatNav]

Other half drank till 4am, poor fucker dying and now has to face this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfCWhkBfUE0&sns=fb

[Tar.Aldarion]

Yes, the figures are infinitesimal in many areas but again no-one is suggesting spending money in these areas, the money is to be spent in urban areas.
I don't see anything small about the 6% figure btw, to say that nothing more should be spent because the figure is only 6% seems like an anti-cycling bias. Notwithstanding that the actual figure is likely even higher because of the quirks in cso calculations and that they relate to the 2011 census which predates a lot of the urban cycling infrastructure.

How about 'bang for buck' calculations by the way - if cycling in Dublin is 6% and public transport is say 60% then its a simple enough comparision. And I suspect the public transport subsidy + apportioned cost of Luas construction is more than 10x that of yearly cycling spend?

Cylcing has increased dramatically since 2011 all right.There are actually tonnes of people cycling when I am going to/from work. I think it's a rather large mistake to say well only x are cycling so we shouldn't fund it, well of course only x are cycling if there are no facilities and it's dangerous (people stop cycling because of this). On top of that you can't leave your bike anywhere it will just get stolen. I would never cycle to town but I want to. So the numbers are nonsense imo.

With the introduction of cars this is what happened in Amsterdam etc before they built facilities, as facilities got better it shot straight up to now 60-70%:

"The Dutch take this for granted; they even tend to believe these cycle-paths have existed since the beginning of time. But that is certainly not the case. There was a time, in the 1950s and 60s, when cyclists were under severe threat of being expelled from Dutch cities by the growing number of cars. Only thanks to fierce activism and a number of decisive events would Amsterdam succeed in becoming what it is, unquestionably, now: the bicycle capital of the world. Gradually, Dutch politicians became aware of the many advantages of cycling, and their transport policies shifted – maybe the car wasn’t the mode of transport of the future after all. In the 1980s, Dutch towns and cities began introducing measures to make their streets more cycle-friendly. Initially, their aims were far from ambitious; the idea was simply to keep cyclists on their bikes.

The Hague and Tilburg were the first to experiment with special cycle routes through the city. “The bicycle paths were bright red and very visible; this was something completely new,” says Godefrooij. “Cyclists would change their routes to use the paths. It certainly helped to keep people on their bikes, but in the end it turned out that one single bicycle route did not lead to an overall increase in cycling.”

Subsequently, the city of Delft constructed a whole network of cycle paths and it turned out that this did encourage more people to get on their bikes. One by one, other cities followed suit"