Bad beat/Moaning/Venting thread - Mammy told me not to come.

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[Denny Crane]

I'd say out of habit I use incognito for about 20/30% of my searches, for one off stuff or things that don't add anything to have attached to my account.

[Solksjaer!]

I'd say out of habit I use incognito for about 20/30% of my searches, for one off stuff or things that don't add anything to have attached to my account.

Denny Crane you're in my ears and in my eyes.

[Charlie Sheen]

Irish staff get a €20k salary due to minimum wage, so tipping there is very different. In US the tip is a de facto part of the meal cost as staff need the tip just to make minimum wage. US aren't good tippers, they've just chosen a weird deal where the advertised price of a meal doesn't include a major portion of the cost.

I'm not sure what the average tip in Ireland would be and where is seen as a place to tip but here in Canada, tipping is in nearly every food/pub industry and the average is 15-20%. There was a subway (the shit fast food place) close to my work that used to have a tip prompted when you used your card, fuck off!

The minimum wage for everyone (I believe) has gone up to $14 this year and will go up to $15 next year. They have the US tipping culture with European average wage, it's a very good earner if you're in an even slightly busy bar/restaurant.

[Solksjaer!]

Tis only money tip the good folk if it's part of the culture. Too many tight arses worry about the odd Euro met a few tight feckers in my time. Terrible trait.

[Charlie Sheen]

Tis only money tip the good folk if it's part of the culture. Too many tight arses worry about the odd Euro met a few tight feckers in my time. Terrible trait.

For whatever reason I've drawn the line at fastfood.

Does this happen in anyone else's work because it seems cracked to me. My office is small (20 people), the bosses are laid back and the dress code is relaxed but if you have a meeting step it up. There are two guys who walk around the place in their socks, if they come over to talk to you, in their socks, go into the bosses office, socks! One of them has his own pair of slippers to avoid the stuffiness of a pair of shoes when he goes to the washroom. How dirty those fleece looking slippers are is for your imagination.

[Tar.Aldarion]

I'd say out of habit I use incognito for about 20/30% of my searches, for one off stuff or things that don't add anything to have attached to my account.

Porn, gotcha.

[DeadParrot]

It would appear the quote in the video was out of context in this case.

[DeadParrot]

I'd say out of habit I use incognito for about 20/30% of my searches, for one off stuff or things that don't add anything to have attached to my account.

thats one way of saying it


edit Tara with the more direct response

[Theresa]

But its him who is imagining individuals in Google towers spying on people's wives and throwing out meaningless shite like the 400,000 word documents I have no idea who this guy is but he has been getting media attention and IMO he's either a bit simple and is just finding out how this stuff now or is cynically scaremongering.

I'm all for people understanding how much data they are sharing, with whom, for what purposes and most importantly how they can control it.

I'm sure the day will come when the deal with Google will stop working in favour of the consumer but for the moment I'm still waiting to see the catch where the only cost appears to be seeing targeted ads, which are mainly a good thing, in return for a host of free products and services:
Maps with realtime accurate traffic and routing info and livesharing if I want it
email - I can search in gmail and find stuff from 10 years ago quicker than I can find something from last week in outlook!
Chrome and Chromecast
Photos, sharing and searching
Drive
Sites
Better than MS office docs and sheets
etc.

And at every step I can configure privacy and security settings with a fine granularity through a very easy to use interface.

If anyone can explain, using only facts and reality what the catch is I'm wide open to hearing them ?

LOL. No. Fair enough about everything else...

[Theresa]

I'm not sure what the average tip in Ireland would be and where is seen as a place to tip but here in Canada, tipping is in nearly every food/pub industry and the average is 15-20%. There was a subway (the shit fast food place) close to my work that used to have a tip prompted when you used your card, fuck off!

The minimum wage for everyone (I believe) has gone up to $14 this year and will go up to $15 next year. They have the US tipping culture with European average wage, it's a very good earner if you're in an even slightly busy bar/restaurant.

The missus manages a bar here and its nuts how much she makes.She paid her deposit for her house purely from tips. Its actually prohibitive as if we were to move away she'd likely earn 50% less anywhere else.

The tipping issue is screwed up here, there aren't any easy solutions.

That said... after being in Aus last week, and being home for Xmas and dealing with standing at a bar and trying to catch an overwhelmed bar mans eye I'd happily pay 15% of my $80 bill to have drinks brought to me and an attentive server (which for the most part they are here). I've spent $12 on a lot worse. I view it as a service not as an extra charge which is how most people mentally model it.

If I walked into a bar and was asked do I want a server for 15% of my bill or not. I'd take the server.

[Charlie Sheen]

The missus manages a bar here and its nuts how much she makes.She paid her deposit for her house purely from tips. Its actually prohibitive as if we were to move away she'd likely earn 50% less anywhere else.

The tipping issue is screwed up here, there aren't any easy solutions.

That said... after being in Aus last week, and being home for Xmas and dealing with standing at a bar and trying to catch an overwhelmed bar mans eye I'd happily pay 15% of my $80 bill to have drinks brought to me and an attentive server (which for the most part they are here). I've spent $12 on a lot worse. I view it as a service not as an extra charge which is how most people mentally model it.

If I walked into a bar and was asked do I want a server for 15% of my bill or not. I'd take the server.

I'm not sure how it'll play out over the next couple of years, they introduced the new higher wages so quickly it'll surely affect bars/restaurants that where already on a thin margin.

I'll be back in Ireland next month and you'll be right, sat in a bar I'll gladly pay extra for someone to come over when I have a third of my drink left and ask if I want another.

[jack90210]

The missus manages a bar here and its nuts how much she makes.She paid her deposit for her house purely from tips. Its actually prohibitive as if we were to move away she'd likely earn 50% less anywhere else.

The tipping issue is screwed up here, there aren't any easy solutions.

That said... after being in Aus last week, and being home for Xmas and dealing with standing at a bar and trying to catch an overwhelmed bar mans eye I'd happily pay 15% of my $80 bill to have drinks brought to me and an attentive server (which for the most part they are here). I've spent $12 on a lot worse. I view it as a service not as an extra charge which is how most people mentally model it.

If I walked into a bar and was asked do I want a server for 15% of my bill or not. I'd take the server.

Not going to the right pubs IMO. Pains me to feel obliged into tipping some guy a dollar to pick up a glass and pour you a pint.

[NewApproach]

I hate the expression “server” in that context for some reason.

[Theresa]

I'm not sure how it'll play out over the next couple of years, they introduced the new higher wages so quickly it'll surely affect bars/restaurants that where already on a thin margin.

I'll be back in Ireland next month and you'll be right, sat in a bar I'll gladly pay extra for someone to come over when I have a third of my drink left and ask if I want another.

It'll be paid for by either servers or customers.

Lots of bars are just increasing the house tip out by a % or 2. Means that less of that 15% you pay is going to the actual server and more to the employer or back of house.

Its a pretty sketchy system but as much as I rally against the idea... everyone comes out pretty well from it.

Bars over here are on a much, much tighter margin than bars at home though not that thats any consolation to a consumer.

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[Guest]

Shortlisted for permanent associate professor interview the week after next. Would be an underdog to get it. After 13 years of contracts, I'd probably go on a Domaine Romanee Conti bender if I somehow manage to wangle it.

Got 2nd prize...4 years at my current level which is de facto permanent when I let them know that they can't keep someone for 11 contracts and 10 years and not make them permanent.

Good reason to drink this when I scoop my brain up off the floor:

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[Ed]

IFI doing a mini James Whale festival at the end of April - showing Frankenstein, Bride of Frankenstein, the Invisible Man and The Old Dark House

[Lazare]

I'm assuming people recommend The Deuce?

Thinking of giving it a lash tonight.

[tylerdurden94]

I'm assuming people recommend The Deuce?

Thinking of giving it a lash tonight.

It's good

[Wombatman]

Bloody kids and their Stack Overflow and fecken Snapchat

God be with the days of Experts Exchange.


P.S. Can't believe anyone would search for anything while logged into Chrome.

P.P.S Download all your Facebook data https://www.facebook.com/help/302796099745838

Whatever comes after P.P.S: Facebook has been collecting call history and SMS data from Android devices. Not at all surprised.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/25/17160944/facebook-call-history-sms-data-collection-android

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[6starpool]

ffs. A rather prominent pro-choice guy claiming that Russia is interfering to boost anti-choice chances in referendum. Russia, for context, being the first country in the world to legalise abortion.

Anyone who follows the likes of him on twitter anyhow is only voting one way already.

[jack90210]

ffs. A rather prominent pro-choice guy claiming that Russia is interfering to boost anti-choice chances in referendum. Russia, for context, being the first country in the world to legalise abortion.

George Soros is funding the pro abortion side how do you feel about that outside interference?

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[Lazare]

I actually cannot wait for all this shite to be over.

Sick to death of it at this stage.

The referendum is not the end of it though, we've (I've) all this catholic bollixology to be subjected to at the end of the summer when those cunts from Rome show up.

Ugh, bring on xmas.

[Opr]

Appreciate this is long but is generally an entertaining podcast. He claims to have owned $1m dollars worth of Amazon stock at one stage that would be worth nearly $1bn today if he had held on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6aBXL0ZlWA

Opr

[Lazare]

When you said long, I thought you meant 40 mins. Not 4 hours. How can a podcast about Barry Greenstein be four hours long?

Opening ep of The Deuce was class, cool soundtrack. Mad seeing D'Angelo on the beat.

[oleras]

When you said long, I thought you meant 40 mins. Not 4 hours. How can a podcast about Barry Greenstein be four hours long?

Opening ep of The Deuce was class, cool soundtrack. Mad seeing D'Angelo on the beat.

One other old timer turns up...keep watching. Great show.

[Lazare]

One other old timer turns up...keep watching. Great show.

Ha! Thought for a sec you meant some other old timer poker player turns up.

Yeah, really enjoyed it, am hooked now.

[Raoul Duke III]

ffs. A rather prominent pro-choice guy claiming that Russia is interfering to boost anti-choice chances in referendum. Russia, for context, being the first country in the world to legalise abortion.

The Russians want to foment internal discord in the liberal democracies (and have been doing a rather spiffing job - Trump, Brexit, FN, AfD, 5Star etc). They don't care what the issue is.

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Intuitively I find it hard to believe that irrespective of Russia's own position on abortion why they would bother interfering in a referendum of trivial consequence to them in a nation that has a negligible amount of global influence.
Perhaps I'm wrong and it's a more complex move than simply asserting their influence on one referendum but it just seems unlikely.

[Raoul Duke III]

^^^ silently adds Raoul to the lunatic list.

It's very fcking convenient that all the crazies that each country has are suddenly able to be blamed on someone else. Nevermind that FN and UK/US racism has been going on for waaaay waaaay longer than Putin.

What do you think of Putin?

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[Guest]

Why did the Irish government not expel Israeli staff after mossad muttered using stolen Irish passports? Also the Dublin Monaghan bombings and other acts of British collusion and murder but we still wag the tail for London and Brussels. The us and I’ll have caused the deaths and displacement of millions yet Russia is the bad guy with there needless costly wars.

[DeadParrot]

^^^ silently adds Raoul to the lunatic list.

It's very fcking convenient that all the crazies that each country has are suddenly able to be blamed on someone else. Nevermind that FN and UK/US racism has been going on for waaaay waaaay longer than Putin.

Silicon Valley has returned and has it's finger on the pulse

[Lazare]

Why would the Russians need to meddle when there's going to be social discord regardless of the result.

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[Strewelpeter]

Intuitively I find it hard to believe that irrespective of Russia's own position on abortion why they would bother interfering in a referendum of trivial consequence to them in a nation that has a negligible amount of global influence.
Perhaps I'm wrong and it's a more complex move than simply asserting their influence on one referendum but it just seems unlikely.

Why would the Russians need to meddle when there's going to be social discord regardless of the result.

Asides from following orders from the cabal controlling Putin they do it because its what they do.
Its kind of like Horse breeding in Kildare, wine production in France or faith and begorrah gobshitery in Kerry, its just what they do because they are the best in the world at it.
Fake news and political destabilisation and infiltration at an international level has been the the great expertise of Russia for almost a century now, nobody does it better.

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[Guest]

Asides from following orders from the cabal controlling Putin they do it because its what they do.
Its kind of like Horse breeding in Kildare, wine production in France or faith and begorrah gobshitery in Kerry, its just what they do because they are the best in the world at it.
Fake news and political destabilisation and infiltration at an international level has been the the great expertise of Russia for almost a century now, nobody does it better.

Is there any proof they made any previous efforts to infiltrate any other Irish referendums?
Gay marriage for example?

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[Dice75]

[Guest]

Yeah gay marriage would be the one to influence. Not abortion rights, which they support.

Plus the great big elephant in the room of why they would be involved in literally anything in Ireland, especially a referendum of zero international relevance.

That's my thoughts too. Gay marriage is a far more likely issue for the Russians than Abortion.

It seems strange to waste resources on a trivial referendum when I'm sure the resources could be far better spent in some other area which may yield some potential benefit to them.

I have no doubts that the Russians enjoy the anarchy of influencing whatever they wish but it seems unlikely to waste time with Ireland when they have the capacity to influence the US presidential election and Brexit

[Strewelpeter]

Best to avoid twitter for the next while

[Ed]

Seems a very quick turnaround in terms of deliberation. Was on a more trivial case jury a few years ago and took us longer to come back with a result. With the unanimous decision required, guess it only requires one staunch holdout

[Strewelpeter]

Is there any proof they made any previous efforts to infiltrate any other Irish referendums?
Gay marriage for example?

Plus the great big elephant in the room of why they would be involved in literally anything in Ireland, especially a referendum of zero international relevance.

I have no idea if they are active in this referendum but why wouldn't they be?

Do you doubt that the kremlin are working to to sow discord and political instability across Europe?
Sure we are right to doubt and to look for evidence that they are active in any specific campaign regardless of how hard it will be to find but the idea that those kind of operations would be bounded by strict moral principals is ridiculous.

[Strewelpeter]

Seems a very quick turnaround in terms of deliberation. Was on a more trivial case jury a few years ago and took us longer to come back with a result. With the unanimous decision required, guess it only requires one staunch holdout

There are some huge issues raised, and not for the first time, by this trial on one side anonymity for the accused and on the other side are we going to leave the bar so high to prove rape that that only a tiny percentage of real victims will be able to get justice.

IMO things have moved to the extent that we need some sort of consensus or social norm that unless there is explicit consent, ongoing and mutual then the absence of a 'Yes, please' is a 'No!'

Given their behaviour on the night and in the subsequent days I have very little sympathy for the consequences these lads will face but in general I think it is very unhealthy that anyone found innocent in a case like this is named and shamed.

[jack90210]

Is there any recourse to take a case against the crown prosecution service for taking such a case for damages?

[Emmet]

Seems a very quick turnaround in terms of deliberation. Was on a more trivial case jury a few years ago and took us longer to come back with a result. With the unanimous decision required, guess it only requires one staunch holdout

Strange take. I'd have thought a quick turnaround would have meant all were united in opinion of not guilty?

Not impressed with the hot takes (senator O'Rioirdan in particular) on twitter. They all believe her and consider the jury who sat through 8 weeks of excruciating detail to be unanimously wrong.

[Solksjaer!]

Is there any proof they made any previous efforts to infiltrate any other Irish referendums?
Gay marriage for example?

Today is SPY Wednesday. We should be celebrating them on their national day instead of throwing them back to Russia.

[Guest]

Best advert ive seen in years:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ItpotxmU8Q

Jack, Denny and Hitch probably should avoid watching it

[Denny Crane]

Best advert ive seen in years:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ItpotxmU8Q

Jack, Denny and Hitch probably should avoid watching it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mTLO2F_ERY

[Ed]

Is there any recourse to take a case against the crown prosecution service for taking such a case for damages?

I wouldn't think so unless there was some overwhelming evidence to indicate the prosecution was frivolous or malicious

[KevIRL]

Best to avoid twitter for the next while

https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/IBelieveHer?