Bad beat/Moan/Venting Thread - BBV Archive 3

[MegaSin]

Reddit thread on Roma scams. One particularly impressive scam is that they hand you a baby and then whilst you're holding it they openly pick your pockets as both of your hands are taken with the baby. What do you even do in that event? You can't drop the baby, as much as you'd be tempted to.

Throw the baby high and straight in the air and walk away.

[Strewelpeter]

Strewelpeter the second, arise.

I dare anyone deal with the passport office in any way that varies ever so slightly from their proscribed procedure and not come away on life tilt. The office is totally dysfunctional, on the one hand you have lazy superannuated unionised dossers who feed off their pathological hatred of the general public and a on the other an incompetent management and utterly useless CEO who bend over backwards to please the unions.
Their recent streamlining procedures were claimed to have reduced queuing times to zero, well done you'd think but the truth is they did that by in effect closing down the public office and only allowing people in to the remaining two windows by appointment. Appointments are available in a 3 to 5 days in case of emergency

There is a new privately run driving license procedure in place, absolute piece of piss, almost a pleasure to deal with. Fire every one of the useless cunts in the passport office from top to bottom and tender the work out, Just like the driving licenses where Dept of transport in Shannon actually approve the issuing of licenses Foreign Affairs can keep control of the tiny but essential little bit of the process it is necessary for them to have.

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[Emmet]

I dare anyone deal with the passport office in any way that varies ever so slightly from their proscribed procedure and not come away on life tilt. The office is totally dysfunctional, on the one hand you have lazy superannuated unionised dossers who feed off their pathological hatred of the general public and a on the other an incompetent management and utterly useless CEO who bend over backwards to please the unions.
Their recent streamlining procedures were claimed to have reduced queuing times to zero, well done you'd think but the truth is they did that by in effect closing down the public office and only allowing people in to the remaining two windows by appointment. Appointments are available in a 3 to 5 days in case of emergency

Ah go on, tell us how you really feel.

[Lord Sir Banter]

One person was saying they actually throw the baby at you!

Were they on Joe Duffy?

[Lord Sir Banter]

Wow passport renewal is a tiltingly stoneage process. When you've to go to 3/4 different places to complete a simple form you know they're doing it wrong.

Did you lose your old paasport?

[Lord Sir Banter]

I love milk. its never been better

[CHDad]

I love milk. its never been better

What is for breakfast?

[The Situation]

Did you lose your old paasport?

Nah its just badly torn and garda at airport last time I flew said a lot would turn you away for a passport in that state. It expires next year so needs to be renewed anyway.

[Denny Crane]

I dare anyone deal with the passport office in any way that varies ever so slightly from their proscribed procedure and not come away on life tilt. The office is totally dysfunctional, on the one hand you have lazy superannuated unionised dossers who feed off their pathological hatred of the general public and a on the other an incompetent management and utterly useless CEO who bend over backwards to please the unions.
Their recent streamlining procedures were claimed to have reduced queuing times to zero, well done you'd think but the truth is they did that by in effect closing down the public office and only allowing people in to the remaining two windows by appointment. Appointments are available in a 3 to 5 days in case of emergency

There is a new privately run driving license procedure in place, absolute piece of piss, almost a pleasure to deal with. Fire every one of the useless cunts in the passport office from top to bottom and tender the work out, Just like the driving licenses where Dept of transport in Shannon actually approve the issuing of licenses Foreign Affairs can keep control of the tiny but essential little bit of the process it is necessary for them to have.

I'm surprised someone in your company hasn't cosied up up to the local TD to get the use of the fast-track box in Leinster House.

[Lazare]

GOT

SPOILER

Holy Jaysus what an ending!! I clicked into Kev's head asplode post by mistake yesterday, so I was expecting a Red Wedding style finish with the Lannisters getting slaughtered including Tyrion. Wasn't expecting what happened. Unreal scene.
How many eps are left?

[Flushdraw]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt9h3R7gYK8

[DeadParrot]

GOT

SPOILER

Holy Jaysus what an ending!! I clicked into Kev's head asplode post by mistake yesterday, so I was expecting a Red Wedding style finish with the Lannisters getting slaughtered including Tyrion. Wasn't expecting what happened. Unreal scene.
How many eps are left?

2

[Denny Crane]

GoT

SPOILER

Any other show and Oberyn takes it down, since it's GoT, and once it starts dragging on you know something ominous is coming.

[Denny Crane]

What's the order of preference for flying transatlantic?

I think I have a choice between:

BA
Delta
AA
US Airways
United

[Emmet]

Signatures needed

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Frances_Fitzgerald_Irish_Minister_for_Justice_and_Equality_A_full_Gardai_investigation_into_the_mass_grave_in_Tuam_Co_Ga/

Not sure that these things ever work, but given that Washington Post has picked it up, hopefully some media pressure can see someone forcing answers.

[Lazare]

Signatures needed

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Frances_Fitzgerald_Irish_Minister_for_Justice_and_Equality_A_full_Gardai_investigation_into_the_mass_grave_in_Tuam_Co_Ga/

Not sure that these things ever work, but given that WSJ has picked it up, hopefully some media pressure can see someone forcing answers.

Shared on FB and Twitter.

An absolute disgrace that there isn't full blown national fury over this.

Fucking bastards.

[Guest]

Shared on FB and Twitter.

An absolute disgrace that there isn't full blown national fury over this.

Fucking bastards.

Kids that were not sold to the yanks.
Like 1961 many who were involved in this would still be alive.
Even a cat found dead on the road would get a better burial.
The demise of the catholic church accelerates.
Why has there been no uproar in the media about this?

[Denny Crane]

Shared on FB and Twitter.

An absolute disgrace that there isn't full blown national fury over this.

Fucking bastards.

I see the usual catholic nut jobs on twitter have been explaining it away, e.g.

While any child that dies because of neglect is one too many I think the 800 "babies" in this case are being bandied about as more of a horror than it really was.

[Kayroo]

I'm at a bit of a loss as to why there isn't a greater outrage about the mass grave in Tuam. The "few bad eggs" position adopted by the Catholic Church rings more hollow with each passing revelation. Are we so numbed to the horrors they inflicted that we are almost immune to the shame this should bring to us?

Magdalene laundries, mass graves of "illegitimate" children, physical and sexual abuse and a legacy of influencing state laws that made homosexuality and divorce illegal until the 1990's. Is it even possible to argue anymore that the Catholic Church is anything less than, to borrow a charming phrase from Leviticus, an abomination?

[Emmet]

I'm at a bit of a loss as to why there isn't a greater outrage about the mass grave in Tuam. The "few bad eggs" position adopted by the Catholic Church rings more hollow with each passing revelation. Are we so numbed to the horrors they inflicted that we are almost immune to the shame this should bring to us?

Magdalene laundries, mass graves of "illegitimate" children, physical and sexual abuse and a legacy of influencing state laws that made homosexuality and divorce illegal until the 1990's. Is it even possible to argue anymore that the Catholic Church is anything less than, to borrow a charming phrase from Leviticus, an abomination?

It's almost disturbing how close satirical accounts are to the bone.

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2014/06/03/bodies-of-800-children-were-just-resting-in-mass-grave-claims-catholic-church/

[Strewelpeter]

Its a death cult, whaddya expect? In the eyes of the Holy Roman Apostolic Church its good to be dead, dead and innocent is better but dead as an alternative to a life in the care of a sinful, loose woman, well that's the jackpot for people unable to free themselves of this acquired mental illness.

[eamonhonda]

What's the order of preference for flying transatlantic?

I think I have a choice between:

BA
Delta
AA
US Airways
United

Stick AA at the bottom of your list to start anyway. And BA towards the top if not the top.

[Teddie]

Signatures needed

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Frances_Fitzgerald_Irish_Minister_for_Justice_and_Equality_A_full_Gardai_investigation_into_the_mass_grave_in_Tuam_Co_Ga/

Not sure that these things ever work, but given that WSJ has picked it up, hopefully some media pressure can see someone forcing answers.

Is there a good report on this in terms of comparing the morality rate to other institutions at the same time and the general morality rate at the time?

[Emmet]

Is there a good report on this in terms of comparing the morality rate to other institutions at the same time and the general morality rate at the time?

http://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/cahirodoherty/Galway-historian-reveals-truth-behind-800-orphans-in-mass-grave.html

http://www.rabble.ie/2014/05/28/the-septic-tank-full-of-secrets/

The children died at the rate of one a fortnight for almost 40 years. The figures are still confused. Another report seems to claim that 300 children died between 1943 and 1946, which would change the statistic to almost two deaths a week in a relatively small institution.
Mortality at that rate countered trends in Ireland of the 1940′s which saw infant mortality drop from the regions of 80 per 1,000 live births to almost 40 per 1,000.

There's another very long newspaper clipped timeline site though I can't remember. May stumble upon it again at some stage.

edit
IrishCentral : http://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/...y-Galway-.html

Examiner : http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakin...hs-632129.html

Co-founder of Adoption Rights Alliance Susan Lohan said as-yet unpublished amateur research into similar homes in Ireland and Britain has highlighted concerns that need to be investigated fully.

"The research suggests that the mortality rate in these homes was in excess of double the national average," she said.

Washington Post : http://m.washingtonpost.com/news/mor...unwed-mothers/

[Opr]

Grand Budapest Hotel and 300 in the usual places.

Opr

[RoadSweeper]

What's the order of preference for flying transatlantic?

I think I have a choice between:

BA
Delta
AA
US Airways
United

BA would be my pick based on comfort, service and food for economy.

Look at the model of plane that you are getting though as flights direct from Ireland to US (or anywhere else), tend to get a shitter model than say a Dub > UK > US type flight.

Obv sign up to the loyalty program too!

[40something]

What's the order of preference for flying transatlantic?

I think I have a choice between:

BA
Delta
AA
US Airways
United

Sort them alphabetically and you have it

[Denny Crane]

BA would be my pick based on comfort, service and food for economy.

Look at the model of plane that you are getting though as flights direct from Ireland to US (or anywhere else), tend to get a shitter model than say a Dub > UK > US type flight.

Obv sign up to the loyalty program too!

Stick AA at the bottom of your list to start anyway. And BA towards the top if not the top.

Cool, thanks, my list was in order of who I was thinking on going with. Seems BA > US carriers in terms of planes.

[eamonhonda]

Summer heights high fans..

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3431720/

[NewApproach]

What's the order of preference for flying transatlantic?

I think I have a choice between:

BA
Delta
AA
US Airways
United

BA > Delta > Swimming > United

(I haven't flown AA or US Airways.)

Virgin are excellent too.

[TheDrunkenOne]

Dropped glasses in Lough today whilst fishing ...I am a bollocks

[bp_me]

What's the order of preference for flying transatlantic?

I think I have a choice between:

BA
Delta
AA
US Airways
United

Destination dependant I guess but why rule out aer lingus?

[Wombatman]

I'm at a bit of a loss as to why there isn't a greater outrage about the mass grave in Tuam. The "few bad eggs" position adopted by the Catholic Church rings more hollow with each passing revelation. Are we so numbed to the horrors they inflicted that we are almost immune to the shame this should bring to us?

Magdalene laundries, mass graves of "illegitimate" children, physical and sexual abuse and a legacy of influencing state laws that made homosexuality and divorce illegal until the 1990's. Is it even possible to argue anymore that the Catholic Church is anything less than, to borrow a charming phrase from Leviticus, an abomination?

I'm an atheist. My youngest girl was the only girl in her class not make here communion last week. While she put on a brave face, I know that deep donwn she would love to have joined them, felt included and to have worn the fancy dress. Im telling you this so you know where Im coming from.

Now to address your point. None of this stuff happened in a vacuum. In this Tuam case for example guards, doctors, teachers, mothers and fathers, and brothers and sisters etc etc, would have suspected what was going on and turned a blind eye.

What is abominable is that we allowed this to happen. So easy to look for a scapegoat (the nuns or the church in this case), than to face our collective guilt and the dark underbelly that was, and arguably still is a feature of this fantastic little country.

By blaming a scapegoat it can happen again because the underlying problem is not being addressed.

How many thanking your post got married in church, go to church, have their children go through christening communion confirmation, are fine with their children being indoctrinationin school and still address the guys in the dog collars as "father".

This is a perfect case of 'Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.' Time to make a few changes folks.

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[RasTa]

What's the order of preference for flying transatlantic?

I think I have a choice between:

BA
Delta
AA
US Airways
United

I wouldn't even consider the other ones.

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[Denny Crane]

BA > Delta > Swimming > United

(I haven't flown AA or US Airways.)

Virgin are excellent too.

Destination dependant I guess but why rule out aer lingus?

US Airways don't even seem to have individual inflight entertainment

Virgin/AL don't fly to where I want to go (I guess I could book multiple airlines but that's extra hassle)

[RasTa]

US Airways don't even seem to have individual inflight entertainment

Same for Delta

[thechamp87]

Wouldn't put any US airlines on that list due to the manky old planes they use. BA, Virgin, Aer Lingus, Iberia would be all good though. Way better flying from Dublin though due to preclearance, so that puts Aer Lingus tops IMO. Fact that you need to go through Heathrow for BA, Virgin is a huge negative.

Only vaguely remember flying through London to Vegas a few years ago (other times I've connected in the US so done pre-clearance here) - I'm going via Gatwick at the end of this month, does that mean I've to do customs once I land? And anyone done it recently know how long it takes? Tilt, forgot about that when I was booking.

[Denny Crane]

They did last time I flew with them? For the international flight, not for the domestic.

[Ed]

Flew BA recently, think virgin is better but would take it over the other options if virgin is not available

[thechamp87]

I actually think Delta are decent and have used them a few times over the past few years.

Flew a few times last year with US Airways and United and said never again. If anyone is doing internal flights within the States and Jet Blue is an option I think they're fantastic.

[eamonhonda]

Same for Delta

same for AA from dublin

[RasTa]

same for AA from dublin

Here I'm flying out at 9.35 on Thursday, going to walk up and get the public bus outside Drumcondra train station think it's the 40. Anyway how long does it take at that hour?

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[eamonhonda]

Here I'm flying out at 9.35 on Thursday, going to walk up and get the public bus outside Drumcondra train station think it's the 40. Anyway how long does it take at that hour?

41, or 16, but 16 detours around whitehall so avoid that.

I used get that from the regency and id be there in bout 20 mins so say half hour ish max with added traffic and that.

[RoadSweeper]

They did last time I flew with them? For the international flight, not for the domestic.

Inflight entertainment all depends on the plane model - Dublin usually gets a lower spec of plan than say UK or Amsterdam in my experience.

[Mickey Rosa]

Speaking of internal flights within the US for the price I think Southwest are the nuts.

[TheDrunkenOne]

Decided to marinade some sliced steak to make a curry. Added Worcestershire sauce instead of soy sauce ...rather than waste, chucked in soy on top with sherry, garlic and chilli powder

be interesting to see how it comes out ...

I am a bollocks again ..................

[RasTa]

Decided to marinade some sliced steak to make a curry. Added Worcestershire sauce instead of soy sauce ...rather than waste, chucked in soy on top with sherry, garlic and chilli powder

be interesting to see how it comes out ...

I am a bollocks again ..................

Got some flank steak from the Asian shop marinating the past 24 hours, €2 euro for a massive piece. Going to fire up the egg and flash it for 30 seconds on each side. If this works oh joy.

Beef short ribs are nicer then any fillet steak I've had.

[bohsman]

Only vaguely remember flying through London to Vegas a few years ago (other times I've connected in the US so done pre-clearance here) - I'm going via Gatwick at the end of this month, does that mean I've to do customs once I land? And anyone done it recently know how long it takes? Tilt, forgot about that when I was booking.

Customs didn't take too long in February in Vegas but then there was a 30 minute queue to leave the airport, maybe an hour total after landing.

[Kayroo]

I'm an atheist. My youngest girl was the only girl in her class not make here communion last week. While she put on a brave face, I know that deep donwn she would love to have joined them, felt included and to have worn the fancy dress. Im telling you this so you know where Im coming from.

Now to address your point. None of this stuff happened in a vacuum. In this Tuam case for example guards, doctors, teachers, mothers and fathers, and brothers and sisters etc etc, would have suspected what was going on and turned a blind eye.

What is abominable is that we allowed this to happen. So easy to look for a scapegoat (the nuns or the church in this case), than to face our collective guilt and the dark underbelly that was, and arguably still is a feature of this fantastic little country.

By blaming a scapegoat it can happen again because the underlying problem is not being addressed.

How many thanking your post got married in church, go to church, have their children go through christening communion confirmation, are fine with their children being indoctrinationin school and still address the guys in the dog collars as "father".

This is a perfect case of 'Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.' Time to make a few changes folks.

On a basic level I agree with you but the thing is, in this case, the Catholic Church aren't the scapegoat for an underlying problem, they are the underlying problem.

The pervasive influence they have had on Irish society for centuries, breeding the culture of deference to the cloth that we are still trying to shake off in the most secular society we have ever had, is astonishing. The fact that we find it wonderful that Ireland is ready to allow gay people to marry (in all likelihood) is quite demonstrative of their influence. What right did we ever have to say they couldn't? Irish society and Irish culture is fundamentally Catholic.

The permissiveness that allows us to keep voting Lowry in, that allows us to forgive almost any mis-deed in public office, is the same permissiveness bred by a Catholic Church that stood on the pulpit and told you to only marry other Catholics and that sex was a sin while simultaneously committing the most heinous acts of hypocrisy as well as just the most heinous acts imaginable.

And all with our tacit consent. The unbreakable consent of silence. Never has the adage that all evil needs to flourish is for good men to do nothing been so clearly proven. We allowed it to happen but we allowed it to happen because of centuries of indoctrination, control and demonisation.

None of this is an attack on Catholicism or Christianity by the way. It is an attack on the institutions who pontificate at the world while they wield the power of an institution to facilitate their abominable actions.

[Theresa]

GOT

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Suffering from a serious case of the Fear today. An unrelenting negativity. I honestly feel worse after watching GOT, fucking Oberyn, he didn't deserve that. I'm gutted.

[rounders123]

Should always have a respect for the church and give up yer auld sins. Breeding a bunch of heathens on here before we know it with all this talk.

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This pic says it all. Seen it a while back looking at google maps. Refuge of sinners. Look at that chap entering the church. He isnt listening to all this talk, hes happy to admit hes a sinner and is seeking said refuge. Why cant we all just be like that fella.

[Lazare]

On a basic level I agree with you but the thing is, in this case, the Catholic Church aren't the scapegoat for an underlying problem, they are the underlying problem.

The pervasive influence they have had on Irish society for centuries, breeding the culture of deference to the cloth that we are still trying to shake off in the most secular society we have ever had, is astonishing. The fact that we find it wonderful that Ireland is ready to allow gay people to marry (in all likelihood) is quite demonstrative of their influence. What right did we ever have to say they couldn't? Irish society and Irish culture is fundamentally Catholic.

The permissiveness that allows us to keep voting Lowry in, that allows us to forgive almost any mis-deed in public office, is the same permissiveness bred by a Catholic Church that stood on the pulpit and told you to only marry other Catholics and that sex was a sin while simultaneously committing the most heinous acts of hypocrisy as well as just the most heinous acts imaginable.

And all with our tacit consent. The unbreakable consent of silence. Never has the adage that all evil needs to flourish is for good men to do nothing been so clearly proven. We allowed it to happen but we allowed it to happen because of centuries of indoctrination, control and demonisation.

None of this is an attack on Catholicism or Christianity by the way. It is an attack on the institutions who pontificate at the world while they wield the power of an institution to facilitate their abominable actions.

Excellent post. I've been pacing the floor here for twenty minutes trying to word a reply to Wombatman's 'scapegoat' post. I'm too filled with fury to articulate my thoughts. Thank you for doing it for me.

Let’s not be too surprised at the silence over mass graves of babies in Ireland. This society, after all, is founded on a contempt for the weak. This is a society that has never confronted its own great catastrophe, the Irish Shoah known as the Great Famine. This is a society well-used to burying its feelings and hating those who fall beneath the hooves of history.

Let me put it this way: what did the Famine survivors do in order to survive? Would they boast about their actions to their children and grandchildren? What did your ancestors do to survive? Maybe they even became wealthy during those years?

What a fertile plot Cardinal Paul Cullen found, in which to sow the seeds of his extreme Ultramontane Catholicism back in 1852. A society riddled with grief, rage, guilt and hatred.

Fucking scapegoats, the bastards raped the minds of an entire society with their twisted sense of morality. The reason there is so much apathy to this horror is because that still pervades to this day.

Wtf with people comparing mortality rates anyway? They dumped babies into a fucking septic tank. They malnourished them because they were illegitimate and they dumped their bodies. There's one story of a child's body that was just tossed into a bush and left to rot.

How many fucking nuns died of malnourishment?

I'm really upset about this, moreso because nobody gives a flying fuck.

Fucking hate this country.

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[AndyFatBastard]

GOT

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Suffering from a serious case of the Fear today. An unrelenting negativity. I honestly feel worse after watching GOT, fucking Oberyn, he didn't deserve that. I'm gutted.

Millions of people are in an abusive relationship with George R R Martin. The man is a terror. A mad, brilliant, terror.

[Mickey Rosa]

I have a couple of thousand words to write for my final assignment between now and the morning. Came on here hoping for some entertainment through the night, and as if by magic Hitch provides