IPB Hero Our Conor Memorial Thread - (Horses Betting Obv)

[The Situation]

Also Nicholes rated Ghizao as his most likely winner today in his betfair column even though he's got two odds on shots in the first two races. Whether that means he really rates Ghizao or the other two were far too short I'm not sure.

[Wesley Harms]

Thank god the jumps are back

[The Situation]

Writing was on the wall from the first fence!

Wp Richie, wonder if CC was getting there before the fall?

[Wesley Harms]

Writing was on the wall from the first fence!

Wp Richie, wonder if CC was getting there before the fall?

I think he was tbf.

[flushjee]

Loads of people talking about percy the pinto in the 1.40 southwell. 20/1 this morning 3/1 now. One time.

[The Situation]

Loads of people talking about percy the pinto in the 1.40 southwell. 20/1 this morning 3/1 now. One time.

Classic George Baker gamble.

You know it's winter when there's a Southwell card every other day, horrific to watch but the track is very beatable. La estrella going for 10 Southwell all weather wins in a row in the 3.10. Think he'll start shorter than his current 1/1 price.

[amberleaf]

re percythepinto http://horses.sportinglife.com/Horse...578056,00.html

[The Situation]

re percythepinto http://horses.sportinglife.com/Horse...578056,00.html

Well you'd be crazy to back at 3/1 now but I wouldn't read much into previous form especially as Southwell is a beast of it's own, form here can be taken very much in isolation. Clearly someone in the baker camp thinks this one will enjoy the sand surface.

[amberleaf]

yup,wont take a whole pile to win this race,only time it was backed as well,so good luck to all that invested i guess

[The Situation]

La Estrella, the Frankel of class 6 Southwell claimers!

[FeetMagic]

What time will boyles/paddy be putting prices on these?

[alocon]

Anyone have any fancies for tonights breeders cup?

[connie147]

Here is the 2nd installment of Dr Whizz.

Moville runs off 119 in Downroyal tomorrow. On what I have seen this horse is an absolutely max bet job in this race. I have one concern. I am a little suspect about his ability to go right handed. Assuming this is a silly concern then go ahead and get shopping at the first opportunity.

Noel,
Are you recommending a straight bet or is it to be e.w.?

[eagle eye]

Backed Moville on the machine at 7.4, went out to 8.0 after that but has just jumped down to 5.7.

Edit: Make that 4.4

[Downtown]

hes into 3's now according to ATR

[Dice75]

On at 11/2. GL us.

[Maddogg]

so shhould i lump?

[Jaysoose]

Note to self...stop looking in this thread..

[Dice75]

Note to self...stop looking in this thread..

Spat out a mouthful of tea laughing at this, perfectly timed

[careca]

In fairness the money was down and he ran pretty well (didn't see the race but sounded like he just blew up a bit).


anyway if you want to lose more or maybe get some back, there is good word for Up tonight in Churchill Downs 8.50 (AP O'Brien). Course its a breeders cup so that has to be taken into consideration. Certainly not lumpage imo.

[Strewelpeter]

Ugh! A runner I know they are working hard to drop half a stone finished in front of it
Only saw from just before the last fence he looked to be travelling well enough approaching it, was it a crawl for the first 14f ?

[Downtown]

ah f**k it.

Who we on to get out so

[Dice75]

ah f**k it.

Who we on to get out so

Maldron cash tables imo.

[eagle eye]

He just didn't appear good enough to win it in fairness. Gave a good sweat all the same, thought his jumping wasn't great just ok'ish. I'll keep an eye out for him going the other way, there might be something to that.

[Jaysoose]

Spat out a mouthful of tea laughing at this, perfectly timed

I try my best, worst is im at my desk listening to the commentary and cant even have a little curse.

[Guest]

ah f**k it.

Who we on to get out so

Leinster -4 10/11 on paddy power on tonight

[Pat Mustard]

got a call from a guy about moveable asset @8.45 dundalk, says he was talking to trainer today and reckoned he was improving and had a good each way chance

[Wesley Harms]

Fancy being thrown down the well Noel?

[amberleaf]

just working on my "nag me stable" to keep me amused for the winter,so far i got,kauto stone,groody hill,sword of honour on the sand i've gone for hassaya and rachel(jeo murphy trainer)any other good uns out there,to keep me tormented!

[amberleaf]

done thanking you

[Wesley Harms]

De Bromhead has to be a bit slow. He runs the 2 mile Champion chaser over 3 miles in a bog at Down Royal and then doesn't enter him in the one race where he might get the 3 miles and some decent ground.

I'd understand it if he has decided to stick to 2 miles but the clown will probably run Sizing Europe in some other 3 mile chase on heavy ground in Ireland

[premierstone]

De Bromhead has to be a bit slow. He runs the 2 mile Champion chaser over 3 miles in a bog at Down Royal and then doesn't enter him in the one race where he might get the 3 miles and some decent ground.

I'd understand it if he has decided to stick to 2 miles but the clown will probably run Sizing Europe in some other 3 mile chase on heavy ground in Ireland

Its fcukin madness, the horse has only ever won at a distance of over 2m 1F twice, once was an incredibly weak novice chase in Punchestown and the other was a 4 runner race in Gowran where he's main rival was clearly out for a workout and even at that both these races were only over 2m 4F where he gets the notion the horse will get 3m on a testing track is beyond me.

[Wesley Harms]

I know it was a nothing race but Peddlers Cross jumped absolutely super just then

[nicnicnic]

I know it was a nothing race but Peddlers Cross jumped absolutely super just then

Bangor fences wouldn't be that stiff, but a flawless display in jumping them

[Wesley Harms]

Bangor fences wouldn't be that stiff, but a flawless display in jumping them

Far too short for the Arkle already though

[premierstone]

Far too short for the Arkle already though

Havent seen todays performance yet, in work , but I would be a layer for the Arkle regardless, imo he will want further than 2m even at this stage.

[Wesley Harms]

Havent seen todays performance yet, in work , but I would be a layer for the Arkle regardless, imo he will want further than 2m even at this stage.

Dont agree, He will probably be in the Tidal bay/My Way De Solzen/Captain Chris mould than a pure speed chaser like Azertyiuop/Vor Por Ustedes

[Downtown]

Just checked some of my betting history. Surprised to see I have

Quito De La Roque at 16/1 for Gold Cup
Ghizao at 20/1 for Chase.

Hopefully get a sweat. Pretty sure Im atleast -50% roi in sports betting.

[premierstone]

Lads, looking for a bit of guidance, anyone any idea how you get a selection added to an existing market on Betfair?

[mcnugget]

Just email them, think its info@betfair.com

They will usually have it added within a few hours

[amberleaf]

have a little tinkle on this one for today 3.20 southwell @7/1,apparently going to give a good account,colourbearer 3.20 s/w

http://horses.sportinglife.com/Horse_Profile/0,12491,498496,00.html

[westlife]

De Bromhead has to be a bit slow. He runs the 2 mile Champion chaser over 3 miles in a bog at Down Royal and then doesn't enter him in the one race where he might get the 3 miles and some decent ground.

I'd understand it if he has decided to stick to 2 miles but the clown will probably run Sizing Europe in some other 3 mile chase on heavy ground in Ireland

Richie, for a fact, this horrible decision to keep a genuine 2 mile champion chaser slogging away over 3 miles on soft ground is 100% down to the "potty" Potts. They should have learnt their lesson last year and be thankful that the horse showed his true worth and class in the champion. But no, these people keep on persisting on the staying route. The way he finished the last day was a sorry sight and if he comes back to defend his crown next year it will be a remarkable constitution shown by the horse.... Not the foolish owners.

They will break his heart if they persist

[Wesley Harms]

Richie, for a fact, this horrible decision to keep a genuine 2 mile champion chaser slogging away over 3 miles on soft ground is 100% down to the "potty" Potts. They should have learnt their lesson last year and be thankful that the horse showed his true worth and class in the champion. But no, these people keep on persisting on the staying route. The way he finished the last day was a sorry sight and if he comes back to defend his crown next year it will be a remarkable constitution shown by the horse.... Not the foolish owners.

They will break his heart if they persist

I agree Phil, I actually posted that it was down to Potts over on the Boards horse racing forum. And I guess De Bromhead can't afford to lose Potts as an owner but h should really put his foot down on this

It's so obvious

[The Situation]

Any Chelts thoughts for the day?? The grands crus v CC race looks tough one to call. Will Cue Cards have a slight advantage having a run under his belt this season?

Wanted to take Crack Away Jack on but soon realised that it's a bloody terrible race, which almost made me flip reverse and back CAJ but alas I settled on Marley Roca at 28/1, just a small ew punt. Think he showed a bit of ability chasing last sesson at a reasonable level, hopefully his first run this season was just a cobweb duster and he comes on for that today as it was a pretty flawed performance. Chelts form is also a worry but think there's slight value in the price.

[Wesley Harms]

I've backed Grands Cru already for the Arkle ( yes I know mental, I just don't think he got home at Cheltenham or Aintree, the 3m hurdle division is awful apart from the monster) I posted it yesterday on Board horse racing.

I'll be backing him today, over what is probably going to be his trip eventually, I think he has too much speed to be a Gold Cup horse. Although I'm quite willing to be proven wrong there.

Crack away Jack was my big ante post Arkle hope a few years back but got injured ( why these smaller trainers insist on trying their crack novices in open company so early is beyond me, Tizzard with Cue Card, Lavelle with CAJ and I think Webber was going to run Time For Rupert in the Pillar last year aswell until he got sick) so I'll have a token wager on him today on his first start for PFN

Garde Champetre will probably win ( the race where they run around and around in the middle of the course till the favourite is in front and then they run up the straight )

[HelloJellyFish]

I've backed Grands Cru already for the Arkle ( yes I know mental, I just don't think he got home at Cheltenham or Aintree, the 3m hurdle division is awful apart from the monster) I posted it yesterday on Board horse racing.

I'll be backing him today, over what is probably going to be his trip eventually, I think he has too much speed to be a Gold Cup horse. Although I'm quite willing to be proven wrong there.

Crack away Jack was my big ante post Arkle hope a few years back but got injured ( why these smaller trainers insist on trying their crack novices in open company so early is beyond me, Tizzard with Cue Card, Lavelle with CAJ and I think Webber was going to run Time For Rupert in the Pillar last year aswell until he got sick) so I'll have a token wager on him today on his first start for PFN

Garde Champetre will probably win ( the race where they run around and around in the middle of the course till the favourite is in front and then they run up the straight )

I'm on Cue Card in today's race, I reckon it is one of the best horses Tizzard is training at the moment and I think there is still much more in Cue Card then what has been show up till now. The last race was won in a canter, so I backed him last night already.

Good luck with your pick....

[The Situation]

Reason I'm so neg on CAJ today aside the obvious is that Nichols has an abysmal record at the open meeting especially in handicaps for whatever reason.

[mcnugget]

Jaysis Boyles are really taking a stand against Grands Crus today, 5/2 when he's a solid 9/4 on the machine.

[Wesley Harms]

Henderson horse in the first e/w for me

[gingerwhinger]

will b interesting to c crack away jack running today first run for nicholls and ruby in the plate wont b punttig thou just a watching brief. for what its worth only backing one nag today DEVONELLI 7.55 dundalk backed it at 15/2 dis mornin only negitive its a hold up merchant and we all no u need a lot of luck in running at that dundalk kip

[mcnugget]

The Cross Country is a filthy e/w race with Lads and 365 at 1/4 the odds - big arbs on the place side.

[Wesley Harms]

Convinced totally now Grands Cru is an Arkle horse.

[Wesley Harms]

not sure if trolling or semi serious - he wont run in it as his stable mate will be winning the Arkle. Anyway, I think Grands Crus could do an Our Vic in the RSA.

100% serious, and Scudamores comment after about him having the speed for 2 miles was encouraging

[mcnugget]

Dunno, could be more plausible than it sounds. My Way de Solzen has already done a stayers/arkle double and dont think Grands Crus is the type of warhorse you need for the RSA.

Only problem its a serious serious Arkle this year.

Out of interest what price would you quote for the Arkle Gimmeabreak?

[Wesley Harms]

Il give either of you 2/1 on him running in the Arkle.

Currently he is a 20/1 poke for the race imo.

At 6pm over half the money matched on him on Betfair for the Arkle was mine lol, im not getting stuck anymore. If hes confirmed for the race he will be single figures

[balfejohn]

horse for saturday

hi all


Got a phone call regarding this horse on Wednesday,
GREAT ENDEAVOUR in the pp gold cup.
Available at 12/1 at the moment.
After the pipe yard had a treble today this has to be a great ew bet with powers paying the 1st 5 home.
His last couple of runs have been not 2 bad.2nd to poquelin and falling when running a great race at Cheltenham.

hope u get on

[Charlie Harper]

hi all


Got a phone call regarding this horse on Wednesday,
GREAT ENDEAVOUR in the pp gold cup.
Available at 12/1 at the moment.
After the pipe yard had a treble today this has to be a great ew bet with powers paying the 1st 5 home.
His last couple of runs have been not 2 bad.2nd to poquelin and falling when running a great race at Cheltenham.

hope u get on

ye heard from 2 people during the week,telling me 2 get on him

[The Situation]

Although I'm highly doubtful Classic Colari will stay this 10f, his previous listed win at Lingers off a higher mark is enough reason for a small ew poke at 25/1.

[Wesley Harms]

David Pipe will go seriously down in my estimation if he runs Grands Crus in the Betfair Chase.

He's surely talking bullshit with those comments

[amberleaf]

first of my nag me horse's is out today, notus de la tour 1.30 plumpton,very skinny price with 8/13 with powers,be worth a look in a double or so