John Terry 1/8. Is there any doubt, he seems to be playing well despite the ribs and next in line is a fair bit worse?
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Think Richards is a shoe-in @ 5/6. I wouldn't be confident of Johnson getting a place @ 1/3 when England have Richards and Walker to comfortably take care of the right back slotOriginally posted by Dice75 View PostHaven't looked at it properly yet but with the appointment of Hodgson the market for making the England 23 has to throw up a few surprises?
current odds on PP
Anything stand out?
Up front, he'll probably take 4 strikers. Rooney/Welbeck are certs, and Bent also if he was fully fit. He'll almost definetly take 1, if not both of Carroll and Crouch both @ 5/4. Again, i don't Sturridge @ 1/2 is even near a sure thingComment
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All depends on what formation Hodgson will play. 433 or 442?Originally posted by Flushdraw View Post
what did he play at Pool?Comment
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Roy and Glen have quite a bit of history from Liverpool.
Hodgson on Glen.
Rumoured at the time that Glen wanted out of Liverpool when Roy was in charge.'But he would have to be playing like an England right back for that to happen, and up to now this season, to be quite frank, he has not performed at the level you would expect. Not very often, anyway.
'The reasons? You would have to ask him that. Perhaps you should ask him, "Do you think you are playing at the top of your form? Do you think you are really performing like the best right back in the country when you play for your club?" If the answer is "yes", then we will have to agree to differ. If it is "no", you could ask him why not.'
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Sturridge is 1/100 imo. He will lead the line without WR. 1/2 is ridic valueOriginally posted by Flushdraw View PostComment
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Originally posted by CheckRaise View Post
They all look the same to Finkel
I still think Bent will make itComment
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Seeing as I'm going to watch it. Anyone seen anything for a bit of interest in the Blackburn - Wigan?
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Don't think its a great market to play in. Basically 2nd guessing a manager with little or nothing to go on.Profit before people.Comment
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john terry was as big as 2/1 to be included in the euros squad at one stage this morning,eventually got on myself @4/6 for uncomfortable lumpage thinkin i was basically buyin money
secondguessin myself now but should i be worried that someone knows something that made the england captain and best defender drift to 2/1 just to be included in the squadComment
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Article in Irish Indo today saying Hodgson will only bring 1 of him & Rio, and leaning toward Rio. Wouldn't put any faith in that though. Would've def got on at 2/1!Originally posted by blanchero View Postjohn terry was as big as 2/1 to be included in the euros squad at one stage this morning,eventually got on myself @4/6 for uncomfortable lumpage thinkin i was basically buyin money
secondguessin myself now but should i be worried that someone knows something that made the england captain and best defender drift to 2/1 just to be included in the squadComment
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Sturridge at 5/6 is just sick.
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Where is this market? Can't find on PPHunter S Thompson 1937-2005 - "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro"Comment
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Dream about CLF
I'm not a football betting man or a fan of Chelski, but last night I had a dream about the match today.
Frank Lampard scores early in the first half with a header and Chelski go on to win the cup 1-0.
At the last WC I dreamt half way through of the WC trophy sitting on the centre circle of Camp Nou, so I've some form going into this one.
GL
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Lumped on, I hope you're right.Comment
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have a free $5 bet for the match and a bit of previous with dreaming correct football results so why not? still couldnt bring myself to cheer for chelsea mindComment
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In terms of pricing the game up, how much of a normal home game do people think this is for Bayern? Does the equal ticket allocation nullify the advantage slightly, to what degree should this affect the pricing?Profit before people.Comment
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BetVictor refunding outright bets on Euros if Spain win. 11/4 on Ger & 13/2 on Holl slightly below the avg but nice promo.Comment
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Robbie Savage just said that Bayern have a huge advantage playing in their own place tonight.Originally posted by The Situation View PostComment
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Worth picking up the racing post tomorrow guys(or order it on the website), comprehensive 72 page Euro 2012 betting guide, should be a good read, they smashed it at World Cup 2010!Profit before people.Comment
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Always a great read but it'll mainly adverts. 72 pages is laughable.Originally posted by The Situation View PostComment
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Anyone looked at prices on teams not to make it out of the Groups?
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Greece 1/2
England 6/4
Italy 11/10
Portugal 4/6
12/1 for a 4 fold, keep me interested in all group matches.Comment
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Chile are 13/10 away to Bolivia tonight. I think thats a massive price. Bolivia have 1 draw and 3 losses to date in the WCQs. Chile haven't been great so far and currently lie 5th with 2 wins and 2 losses but there is a huge gap in class between these two sides imo. Bolivia have been beaten by Uruguay, Columbia and Venezuela, their draw was away to Argentina who somehow only managed to score one goal in that game.'Mental Toughness is doing the right thing for the team when it's not the best thing for you' - Bill BelichickComment
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Linfield play Bangor today in a friendly as a warm-up for their Euro game coming up, Linfield have been back for a bit now in preseason, my mate (Glenavon player) told me Bangor aren't even back in full pre season yet. Linfield -1 4/5 on PP and -2 11/5 both worth consideration today.Comment
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Ugh ffs PP pulled the game and now have it listed as Bangor City the Welsh team, know nothing about them
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European u19's start this Tuesday. Spain of course are heavy favourites. I watched Spain twice in qualifying and didn't think they looked as good as previous youth sides but hard to really tell based off only a couple of games.
I think Portugal could be worth a few quid. They've some cracking looking players at this level. I watched a few of them in the Nextgen series in which some of them looked quite special. The only place that has a market up at the minute is Bwin which has them priced at 5/1. Would like to get a few quid on Betinho as top scorer but doubt if anyone will do a market. He has eight goals in his last six games for the u19 team. Looked a really special player in the Nextgen series playing for Sporting Lisbon.
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Should have said too that the groups are set up nicely for Portugal. Two groups of fours teams in each with the top two going through to the semi final stage. Spain and Portugal are in the same group but you would expect them to finish as the first two. Means Portugal will avoid them until the final if they get through.
Group A
Estonia
Portugal
Greece
Spain
Group B
Serbia
France
England
Croatia
Bit of a preview here for Portuguese team - http://www.portugoal.net/index.php/m...-championships
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Taking a look at the opening round of games tomorrow for some value since the prices went up.
England vs Croatia
England at 10/11 looks good value.
It looks like Croatia will be considerably weaker than in qualifying. This was the team that started the last match. Four key players have been ruled out.
J. Čalušić
M. Mitrović
M. Kovačić - not released by Dinamo Zagreb
F. Mrzljak - Got a red card in qualifing and misses first two games.
M. Pajač
I. Aleksić
D. Miškić
M. Livaja - Livaja not released by Inter Milan
M. Dugandžić
A. Rebić - Injured
Kovačić, Livaja and Datković would be considered three of their best players all of whom aren't being realsed. The squad has a number of other players not realsed or injured.
England have taken over a very strong squad. William Keane seems to be the only player missing through injury.
Portugal vs Estonia
Portugal(-1) at 10/11 against Estonia
Estonia got in as hosts. They've had some matches in the build up in something called the Baltic cup in which they lost all three games.
In contrast Portugal have won 5 out of six matches in qualifying drawing the other while scoring 29 goals along the way in those matches. It looks a complete mismatch on paper. I guess the fact they're the hosts so the ground will be highly partisan may be somewhat of a detracting factor.
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Should really have known better than to trust the English at youth level. Ended up 1-1.
Comfortable 3-0 win for Portugal with Betinho getting a goal. Spain won 2-1 struggling a little in the second half against Greece and had some scares but in fairness Greece are no push overs and had a very good record in qualifying coming into this tourney. Very much looking forward to the group game between Spain and Portugal on Friday.
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What ridiculous squads Spain and Brazil have selected for the Olympics, Available at 5/2 and 9/4 respectively. Really looking forward to it.
Spain
David De Gea (Manchester United)
Diego Marino (Villarreal)
Joel Robles (Atletico Madrid)
Jordi Alba (Valencia/Barcelona)
Cesar Azpilicueta (Marseille)
Alberto Botia (Sporting Gijon)
Alvaro Dominguez (Borussia Monchengladbach)
Inigo Martinez (Real Sociedad)
Javi Martinez and Mikel San Jose (both Athletic Bilbao)
Martin Montoya (Barcelona)
Thiago Alcantara and Cristian Tello (both Barcelona)
Ander Herrera (Athletic Bilbao)
Isco (Malaga)
Koke (Atletico Madrid)
Juan Mata and Oriol Romeu (both Chelsea)
Adrian Lopez (Atletico Madrid)
Iker Muniain (Athletic Bilbao)
Rodrigo (Benfica)
Alvaro Vazquez (Espanyol)
Brazil (can't find keepers)
Defenders: Daniel Alves, (Barcelona), Danilo (FC Porto), Marcelo (Real Madrid), Alex Sandro (FC Porto), Thiago Silva (AC Milan), David Luiz (Chelsea), Bruno Uvini (Tottenham), Juan (Inter Milan).
Midfielders: Casemiro (Sao Paulo), Sandro (Tottenham), Romulo (Vasco), Paulo Henrique Ganso (Santos), Lucas (Sao Paulo), Oscar (Internacional), Giuliano (Dnipro),
Forwards: Alexandre Pato (Internacional), Hulk (FC Porto), Leandro Damiao (Internacional), Neymar (Santos), Wellington Nem (Fluminense).Comment
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Got this earlier.
Cefn Druids v Mypa Europa League qualifer. Mypa -3.5 @ 4/1. No handicap market on PP for this one though so I just took +3.5 goals 13/8.
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on tv anywhere or will there be a stream for itOriginally posted by KevIRL View PostGot this earlier.
Cefn Druids v Mypa Europa League qualifer. Mypa -3.5 @ 4/1. No handicap market on PP for this one though so I just took +3.5 goals 13/8.
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Hope ye made v little of itOriginally posted by KevIRL View PostGot this earlier.
Cefn Druids v Mypa Europa League qualifer. Mypa -3.5 @ 4/1. No handicap market on PP for this one though so I just took +3.5 goals 13/8.
Make of it what you will
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ffs, Portugal on the verge of going out of the Euro u19's. Drew the last group game with Spain 3-3. Half time currently playing Greece but have got a man sent off and have since gone a goal down. A win for Greece will mean they qualify ahead of them in the group.
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Greece u19 against England u19 on Thursday. Greece at 10/3 with Coral.
Greece came into this competition with an awesome record in qualifying. They gave Spain a right good match in the first game of the tournament and had chances to draw level in the second half of that match. They beat the whipping boys of the group in the similar fashion to Portugal/Spain 4-1. They had some luck with the red card when they beat Portugal in the last group game to qualify for the semi but it was 1-1 at the time and no reason to think they might not have gone on to win anyway.
England only drew against a Croatian side which has 5 of their best players either not released/injured or suspended. They scraped past Serbia the worst team in the group 2-1. They beat the French in the last game but the French had made seven changes from the previous two games because they already had qualified. In truth I think they've been hugely lucky to get out of the group.
I think this is far more evenly matched than the prices suggest. Also the 3.3 currently on offer with Coral for Greece to win is next best price at 2.7.
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I think we should continue this thread to champions league. Euro cup is over man!!!Comment
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Greece 1-0 up with 2 minutes to half time and the Ref just sent off the goalkeeper and gave a penalty for a decision which he got completely wrong. Commentary called it completely ridiculous. Bloody sickened.
Keeper saved the penalty but fuck you referee!
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Ive backed them also, no betfair account so what would you do to kinda cover myself?Originally posted by Opr View Post
Edit over 2.5 goals @ 11/10????Comment
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Trying to scramble and do something myself. I have a couple of decent bets on them to win the game and to qualify and had them in the match handicap -1. Again fuck you referee.Originally posted by Percy007 View Post
I can't see much of a way of laying off unless you want to back double chance, England/Draw.
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Hope you didn't try cover with overs?
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Cant tell you how much i fucked up there.Comment
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Get the fuck in. Greece win it in extra time.
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Originally posted by KevIRL View PostGot this earlier.
Cefn Druids v Mypa Europa League qualifer. Mypa -3.5 @ 4/1. No handicap market on PP for this one though so I just took +3.5 goals 13/8.
Make of it what you will
Pity you weren't on this tonight 5-0 so far
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Lithuainians 5's to win in Tallaght. Shall watch first 10mins and decide.Comment
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Is 11/2 value for Chelsea to win the league? I'm tempted.Comment
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If they played the league 100 times how many times would Chelsea win in your estimation?Originally posted by FeetMagic View Post
Also, league-long ante-post bets are the worst.Comment
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I know that's what I should do to gauge it but I wouldn't even know how to begin estimating that. It would basically be a guess - I'll say City win it 48, United 24, Chelsea 21 and any other 7. I definitely think Chelsea's odds should be closer to United's; whether that's a case of United being too short or Chelsea being too long is what I'm not sure of.Originally posted by Emmet View Post
I love bets that give a good sweat although 10 months or so is a bit excessive.Comment
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Why would you lay it off? At what price will you be laying off? Im confusedOriginally posted by Percy007 View Post
Why is this?Originally posted by Emmet View Post
Very sweeping statement.
If you are saying the markets for season long bets are weighed heavily against the punter. Or - tying up money that long is bad instead of having it working for you week on week.
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Isnt it mad how chelsea are european champions. Fa cup champions. Have just made two of the best transfers this summer, with plans to make more, yet Nobody can see past Man City.
Isnt United at 2s with some firms way too short?Comment
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Motherwell v Panathinaikos
Anyone got any insight into this? The Greeks look big to me @ 10/11 but I read recently that they have lost a good few players. Thoughts on this lads?
Game is next week btw.Comment
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It's sad to say but some could imply that to mean Chelsea are just a good cup team.Originally posted by Semibluff View Post﴾͡๏̯͡๏﴿Comment
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Sorry i missed this. I looked at Chelseas league fixtures up to around that start of Dec and think they could be on a good run, the only "big" aways they have are Arsenal and Spurs they have United, City and Liverpool all at home before December. In December they also have the inconvienience of the World Club Championships. I just think with those fixtures up to December they could be short around then. Why would I lay it off? Dunno tbh prob because im a coward, would you lay them off if they were 7/4 shots around December? Not sure why you are confused is it not all about getting profit? Fwiw im not a massive punter.Originally posted by Semibluff View PostComment
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thanks for explaining. I hadnt examined their fixtures, or knew anything about the WCC. Valid points. You could throw in an aging team to that too, if that argument still applies to chelsea.
Re laying off, if you think they are no longer the correct price at xmas, then jumping ship is perfect. If you are laying off because there is too much at risk, then only punt what you can afford to lose.
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Liverpool play Roma in a preseason friendly tonight.
Roma side should be the fitter of the two. They've already played 3 friendlies beating Turnu Severin 2-0, Rapid Vienna 2-1, and Zaglebie Lubin 4-0 last weekend.
Liverpool have only played one match which they drew 1-1 against a poor Toronto side. It was a really threadbare side which was mostly made up of kids. 16 year old was playing on the right wing with a load of other youth squad players. Much the same players are expected to take part tonight as the senior players have only arrived back and Rodgers has said they likely won't feature - http://www.lfctour.com/news/rodgers-...r-new-arrivals
If what Rodgers is saying is true I can't see how this is priced correctly and surely Roma should be favourites tonight but are priced at 21/10 with B365.
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