General Poker Thread

[tipp86]

Ive never done the math but that sounds like a big winrate needed when playin less tables to equal ur hourly rate when multitabling. Not saying your wrong just that im suprised is all.

When im on a big down swing i normally play fewer tables and try and book wins even if its only a buy in. I normally play shorter sessions too and have a 2-3 bi stop loss system. Might only stop for an hour but it definately helps. I would normally be 8-10 tabling but cutting down helps me a lot to maybe 4-6 tables. Anyway its prob stuff you do already but no harm in putting it out there.

Ya thing i may introduce stopping after 4 buyin losses.

I don't like the cold call there tipp. I think its a fold pre.

Surley he is 3 betting a wide range there on the button in that situation?

[Guest]

Yeah but being oop for the rest of the hand with UTG still to act its just not a good situation. If UTG 4bets you have to fold. What are you going to do on flops where there's an overcard? Your range is basically face-up as TT-JJ and occasionally AQs

[bohsman]

Sigh, played 12k hands yesterday, ran really bad mid session, tilted late session.

[Ramiriquez]

Did I play this ok?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 1.1 Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 50 Ante (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG+1 (t12511)
MP1 (t9755)
MP2 (t11799)
Hero (MP3) (t24038)
CO (t22386)
Button (t25866)
SB (t9217)
BB (t5718)
UTG (t34048)

Hero's M: 22.89

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, Q
UTG calls t400, 3 folds, Hero bets t1800, 2 folds, SB calls t1600, 1 fold, UTG calls t1400

Flop: (t6250) Q, 4, A (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t6250) 2 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets t2800, SB calls t2800, UTG calls t2800

River: (t14650) 7 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets t4800, 1 fold, UTG raises to t9600, Hero raises to t19388 (All-In), UTG calls t9788

Total pot: t53426

Results:
UTG had 5, 3 (straight, five high).
Hero had Q, Q (three of a kind, Queens).
Outcome: UTG won t53426

[shano_88]

Bet the flop.

[AndyFatBastard]

Played fine. UL.

[Sledgejammer]

Bet the flop.

This, and more on the turn and a hell of alot more on the river

[RoadSweeper]

Samos well should be pretty interesting

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/39/small-stakes-pl-nl/well-samoleus-956852/

[cardshark202]

Ya thing i may introduce stopping after 4 buyin losses.

4?! You can drop 4 in a flash, make it something reasonable.

I just stop if I feel the tilt-monster coming.

[RoadSweeper]

I lose 4 warming up

[AndyFatBastard]

4?! You can drop 4 in a flash, make it something reasonable.

I just stop if I feel the tilt-monster coming.

I stop playing if I start thinking that I should keep playing to recoup previous losses. Or if I fly into an an uncontrollable rage. One or the other. But yeah, I don't think you can set any kid of artificial limit. You could be playing perfectly and lose 4 buyins in your first 100 hands of the day. Tilt control is something you have to learn, and learn the hard way.

[Sledgejammer]

More importantly, stop looking at your results mid session. Horrible habbit to be in and one I'm glad I got rid of, obviously you'll have a rough idea of results regardless but still

[Flushdraw]

Missed the first 15 minutes of tonights $30k gtd so i've only 4 hands on everyone and zero reads. Whats our standard line against 2 unkowns considering i'm raising UTG (if that means anything to them)

No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (10 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 (t2805)
UTG+2 (t4372.50)
MP1 (t2895)
MP2 (t2925)
MP3 (t2925)
CO (t2140)
Button (t2602.50)
SB (t3140)
BB (t3255)
Hero (UTG) (t2940)

Hero's M: 65.33

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, J
Hero bets t90, 2 folds, MP1 calls t90, 5 folds, BB raises t210, Hero calls t150, MP1 calls t150

Flop: (t735) 7, 3, 7 (3 players)
BB bets t420, Hero ??

[tipp86]

Ya true i guess its nothing i think 8 might be the magic number but then again if there is value on the table its pretty stupid thats why i never introduced something like this before.

Im now down 23 buyins since the start of the month and i feel at crisi point i still have over 70 buyins but part of me wants to move back to 20nl for a little while.

It seems impossible to win. I even changed back to an old skin just for a change of atmosphere.

Here is a few hands i got stacked on tonight.Anyone any thoughts?

Villians 3 bet 7.1%

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($105.23)
Hero (UTG) ($65.58)
MP ($111.31)
CO ($54.16)
Button ($50)
SB ($50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, K
Hero bets $1.50, 2 folds, Button raises $4.50, SB calls $4.25, BB calls $4, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($18) 8, 5, 9 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $12, 2 folds, Hero raises $61.08 (All-In), Button calls $33.50 (All-In)

Turn: ($109) 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($109) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $109

Results:
Button had A, A (one pair, Aces).
Hero had Q, K (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Button won $106

Villian call 3bet 45% he raises flop 3 bet c bets 40%. I would have been seen as extreme aggressive.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($66.25)
Button ($101.57)
Hero (SB) ($50)
BB ($46.43)
UTG ($52.19)
MP ($50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6, 10
2 folds, CO bets $1.75, 1 fold, Hero raises $6.25, 1 fold, CO calls $4.75

Flop: ($13.50) 2, J, 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO raises $15, Hero raises $36.50 (All-In), CO calls $28.50

Turn: ($100.50) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($100.50) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $100.50

Results:
Hero had 6, 10 (two pair, Jacks and tens).
CO had K, Q (straight, Ace high).
Outcome: CO won $97.50

[Wesley Harms]

Missed the first 15 minutes of tonights $30k gtd so i've only 4 hands on everyone and zero reads. Whats our standard line against 2 unkowns considering i'm raising UTG (if that means anything to them)

No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (10 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 (t2805)
UTG+2 (t4372.50)
MP1 (t2895)
MP2 (t2925)
MP3 (t2925)
CO (t2140)
Button (t2602.50)
SB (t3140)
BB (t3255)
Hero (UTG) (t2940)

Hero's M: 65.33

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, J
Hero bets t90, 2 folds, MP1 calls t90, 5 folds, BB raises t210, Hero calls t150, MP1 calls t150

Flop: (t735) 7, 3, 7 (3 players)
BB bets t420, Hero ??

Jam

[Flushdraw]

Played fine. UL.

This, and more on the turn and a hell of alot more on the river

+1 to bet the flop, more on the turn and a lot more on the river

[tipp86]

Jam

Dont like that at all.

Early days i probably call and evaluate the turn i guess we are bleeding chips if we plan to fold to a turn bet on a blank card but il admit its a tough hand.

I guess folding the flop could be seen as weak but i dont hate it as its so early and there is way better spots.

[shrapnel]

Missed the first 15 minutes of tonights $30k gtd so i've only 4 hands on everyone and zero reads. Whats our standard line against 2 unkowns considering i'm raising UTG (if that means anything to them)

No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (10 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 (t2805)
UTG+2 (t4372.50)
MP1 (t2895)
MP2 (t2925)
MP3 (t2925)
CO (t2140)
Button (t2602.50)
SB (t3140)
BB (t3255)
Hero (UTG) (t2940)

Hero's M: 65.33

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, J
Hero bets t90, 2 folds, MP1 calls t90, 5 folds, BB raises t210, Hero calls t150, MP1 calls t150

Flop: (t735) 7, 3, 7 (3 players)
BB bets t420, Hero ??

folding is weak, jamming is silly, and calling is just asking for trouble, so min raise and watch them freak out. any jam on top is obviously a fold leaving you enough to rebuild.

[Flushdraw]

folding is weak, jamming is silly, and calling is even worse, so min raise and watch them freak out. any jam on top is obviously a fold leaving you enough to rebuild.

I considered a minraise and fold to a jam for a nano second but decided on a fold and really didn't know the best line. I suppose i essentially played it for set value pre and then base my move on what he does on the flop.

70 mins into tournie now and villain is playing 22/9 with a that was the only hand he has bet with. MP was a complete fish and is now busto

[Bubbleking]

Missed the first 15 minutes of tonights $30k gtd so i've only 4 hands on everyone and zero reads. Whats our standard line against 2 unkowns considering i'm raising UTG (if that means anything to them)

No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (10 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 (t2805)
UTG+2 (t4372.50)
MP1 (t2895)
MP2 (t2925)
MP3 (t2925)
CO (t2140)
Button (t2602.50)
SB (t3140)
BB (t3255)
Hero (UTG) (t2940)

Hero's M: 65.33

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, J
Hero bets t90, 2 folds, MP1 calls t90, 5 folds, BB raises t210, Hero calls t150, MP1 calls t150

Flop: (t735) 7, 3, 7 (3 players)
BB bets t420, Hero ??

how much do you bet there if checked to?

[AndyFatBastard]

+1 to bet the flop, more on the turn and a lot more on the river

Meh, IME slow play and small bets on dry boards induce all kinds of retarded play from donks.

[TommyGunne]

Yeah my normal shape to a session is some sort of U shape. Make me feel like I'm being a spa at the start of sessions! But dropping 4 is a very regular occurrence. Like stacks get shipped pretty regularly.

I have upped my vpip by 25% in the last 3 months though Might account for a little more variance!

[bohsman]

More importantly, stop looking at your results mid session. Horrible habbit to be in and one I'm glad I got rid of, obviously you'll have a rough idea of results regardless but still

Yea, planning to only look at account balance and results once a week. Will be such a sick feeling if the insufficient funds sign pops up during a session tho.

[nuxxx]

Hey guys, just wonder what stats should I use in my hud for hu sngs?

Been playing alot of them recently and finding the normal stats not much use. Cheers

[Sledgejammer]

Yea, planning to only look at account balance and results once a week. Will be such a sick feeling if the insufficient funds sign pops up during a session tho.

It's a very fun sweat after a long session, though. My rough idea of how I've done has been off by nearly 4 or 5 buy ins after big sessions, for good or for bad. But I think, even sub consciously, you'll play better not knowing and you'll also play a quantity of hands based on how good you're feeling and playing rather than how good or bad you're doing which is +EV for you in the long run.

[shano_88]

More importantly, stop looking at your results mid session. Horrible habbit to be in and one I'm glad I got rid of, obviously you'll have a rough idea of results regardless but still

Im very bad for this. Must get out of this habbit.

[Starvin Marvin]

folding is weak, jamming is silly, and calling is just asking for trouble, so min raise and watch them freak out. any jam on top is obviously a fold leaving you enough to rebuild.

Level?

If jamming is silly, im not sure what min raise/fold is.

[Ramiriquez]

+1 to bet the flop, more on the turn and a lot more on the river

Cool, cheers guys

[AndyFatBastard]

Hey guys, just wonder what stats should I use in my hud for hu sngs?

Been playing alot of them recently and finding the normal stats not much use. Cheers

You should look for things that really obviously bad players do too much or too little. Things like "raise flop". Aggro donks will be raising or check-raising 20%+ and this is exploitable. Passive, weak players will only ever raise with a set on a wet board, and after a few hundred hands this should show in their stats.

Cbet turn is another good stat to use in the same vein.

[shrapnel]

Level?

If jamming is silly, im not sure what min raise/fold is.

yes and no. it's such a horrible spot, and i don't like any of the options. there's enough in the pot to be worth a stab at, but i wouldn't want to put all my chips in in this spot. if we min raise and someone jams on top, i'd be happy to fold as we still have just under 2000 at the 15/30 level. (definitely not great either, but worth a go :-))

[Teddie]

Villian call 3bet 45% he raises flop 3 bet c bets 40%. I would have been seen as extreme aggressive.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($66.25)
Button ($101.57)
Hero (SB) ($50)
BB ($46.43)
UTG ($52.19)
MP ($50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6, 10
2 folds, CO bets $1.75, 1 fold, Hero raises $6.25, 1 fold, CO calls $4.75

Flop: ($13.50) 2, J, 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO raises $15, Hero raises $36.50 (All-In), CO calls $28.50

Turn: ($100.50) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($100.50) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $100.50

Results:
Hero had 6, 10 (two pair, Jacks and tens).
CO had K, Q (straight, Ace high).
Outcome: CO won $97.50

Don't like it. If you are extremely aggressive he will either call or 4bet too often. When he calls being OOP with T6s is going to be pretty horrible and you'll rarely flop good. Once he min-raises it's a snap fold, his range has you crushed pretty much. The best you can hope for is 89 or KQ and your only 55% against that range. Also, I'd definitely move down if I was you even if you have plenty of buy-ins for 50nl. Confidence makes such a difference in your win rate.

[AndyFatBastard]

Somehow I missed these when they were posted. Good hands.

Here is a few hands i got stacked on tonight.Anyone any thoughts?

Villians 3 bet 7.1%

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($105.23)
Hero (UTG) ($65.58)
MP ($111.31)
CO ($54.16)
Button ($50)
SB ($50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, K
Hero bets $1.50, 2 folds, Button raises $4.50, SB calls $4.25, BB calls $4, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($18) 8, 5, 9 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $12, 2 folds, Hero raises $61.08 (All-In), Button calls $33.50 (All-In)

Turn: ($109) 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($109) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $109

Results:
Button had A, A (one pair, Aces).
Hero had Q, K (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Button won $106

Did you consider a 4bet pre? How bad are the guys in the blinds? Yes it's maniacal but there's so much dead money there asking to be stolen...

Villian call 3bet 45% he raises flop 3 bet c bets 40%. I would have been seen as extreme aggressive.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($66.25)
Button ($101.57)
Hero (SB) ($50)
BB ($46.43)
UTG ($52.19)
MP ($50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6, 10
2 folds, CO bets $1.75, 1 fold, Hero raises $6.25, 1 fold, CO calls $4.75

Flop: ($13.50) 2, J, 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO raises $15, Hero raises $36.50 (All-In), CO calls $28.50

Turn: ($100.50) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($100.50) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $100.50

Results:
Hero had 6, 10 (two pair, Jacks and tens).
CO had K, Q (straight, Ace high).
Outcome: CO won $97.50

I wouldn't cbet the flop here. I'd be looking to bluff catch and get to showdown cheaply. A lot of opponents will check back here with better hands and take a stab at the pot with worse. When they bet and you call, your line looks really strong and they'll be reluctant to fire again with a lot of weaker hands. When they check back and you also check the turn, they'll take a stab a huge % of the time. This gives you a lot of options for the river, including turning your hand into a bluff, trying to extract value from smaller pairs and A high, hoping to show down or getting away from it, depending on board texture and villian's actions obv. Sometimes you get outdrawn and that sucks when it happens, but most of the time it's not going to happen. Food for thought, anyway.

[AndyFatBastard]

Oh, and if Carlsberg did sessions - This was my lunch break today:

[NewApproach]

Tourney hand I played earlier. Not sure if they're ever done in here but its not really worthy of its own thread.

14 left form 60 starters in a CPT €100 fo.

Avg stack: 68k

Blinds 3000/6000/500

Folded to Villain (85k) in CO who opens to 15k. I would view him as pretty aggro, opening wide and cbetting lots. Not much other reads, but he would be who I consider to be one of the better players at the table.

Folded to me in BB(110k) and I have A5o. My image would be a solid TAG.

I elect to flat. I considered 3betting as he would open wide in that spot, but I couldn't decide on a 3bet size (shove would have been too big imo, making it 40k is a bit ghey)


Flop A55.

I check call a 20k cbet.

Turn K

I check again, he checks behind.

River K

I check, he shoves for 50k.

Me??

Thought on all streets here please.

[tipp86]

@ Andy

I think 4 betting KQ would be very bad in Hand 1 id like to hear others thoughts.

I like your thinking in Hand 2 it makes a lot of sense.

Here is a new one to digest

Villian is a breakeven reg rarely steps out of line 21/15/2.5

There is 0 bluffs in his range so how many hands do i beat? I guess the maths says call but im just not sure. I cant even see this guy raising AJ and this is surely the only hand i beat.


No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (UTG) ($146.48)
MP ($76.11)
CO ($15)
Button ($50)
SB ($89.24)
BB ($69.37)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, K
Hero bets $1.50, MP calls $1.50, 4 folds

Flop: ($3.75) 3, K, J (2 players)
Hero bets $3, MP raises $8, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($19.75) A (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $14, Hero calls $14

River: ($47.75) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $22, MP raises $52.61 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $91.75

[BuChan]

Tourney hand I played earlier. Not sure if they're ever done in here but its not really worthy of its own thread.

14 left form 60 starters in a CPT €100 fo.

Avg stack: 68k

Blinds 3000/6000/500

Folded to Villain (85k) in CO who opens to 15k. I would view him as pretty aggro, opening wide and cbetting lots. Not much other reads, but he would be who I consider to be one of the better players at the table.

Folded to me in BB(110k) and I have A5o. My image would be a solid TAG.

I elect to flat. I considered 3betting as he would open wide in that spot, but I couldn't decide on a 3bet size (shove would have been too big imo, making it 40k is a bit ghey)


Flop A55.

I check call a 20k cbet.

Turn K

I check again, he checks behind.

River K

I check, he shoves for 50k.

Me??

Thought on all streets here please.

shove or fold pre, if he's v laggy shove for sure. flatting is not really an option. as played, yuck, you've 33k the pot is 100 mirrion the blinds are huge... call.

[BuChan]

River: ($47.75) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $22, MP raises $52.61 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $91.75

wtf?

[Line Us]

Convinced my account is set to never win a flip, thank god for redline.




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[The Aul Switcharoo]

God help you if they ever start to call you ^^^

[tipp86]

wtf?

Ok what hands do i beat if he never bluffs here and the player is fairly competent. I love the analysis great addition to the thread.

90% of the time i sigh and call.

[Bubbleking]

Tourney hand I played earlier. Not sure if they're ever done in here but its not really worthy of its own thread.

14 left form 60 starters in a CPT €100 fo.

Avg stack: 68k

Blinds 3000/6000/500

Folded to Villain (85k) in CO who opens to 15k. I would view him as pretty aggro, opening wide and cbetting lots. Not much other reads, but he would be who I consider to be one of the better players at the table.

Folded to me in BB(110k) and I have A5o. My image would be a solid TAG.

I elect to flat. I considered 3betting as he would open wide in that spot, but I couldn't decide on a 3bet size (shove would have been too big imo, making it 40k is a bit ghey)


Flop A55.

I check call a 20k cbet.

Turn K

I check again, he checks behind.

River K

I check, he shoves for 50k.

Me??

Thought on all streets here please.

Preflop is a fold for me 85% and a 3bet 15% it is never ever a call.

as played I call the flop and donk the turn to set up a river shove yourself. You dont want him checking it back because theres still lots to go in the middle. plus its fun taking different lines. anyway I thinking donking the turn is best.

Fold river you're never ahead

@ Andy

I think 4 betting KQ would be very bad in Hand 1 id like to hear others thoughts.


Here is a new one to digest

Villian is a breakeven reg rarely steps out of line 21/15/2.5

There is 0 bluffs in his range so how many hands do i beat? I guess the maths says call but im just not sure. I cant even see this guy raising AJ and this is surely the only hand i beat.


No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (UTG) ($146.48)
MP ($76.11)
CO ($15)
Button ($50)
SB ($89.24)
BB ($69.37)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, K
Hero bets $1.50, MP calls $1.50, 4 folds

Flop: ($3.75) 3, K, J (2 players)
Hero bets $3, MP raises $8, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($19.75) A (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $14, Hero calls $14

River: ($47.75) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $22, MP raises $52.61 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $91.75

KQ soooooted is def a call there

Also your line is fine in the hand above until you get to the river. that just has to be a c/f if villain shoves. I dunno what you hope to achieve by leading out and in the case where you did you have to call it off now

[Teddie]

Ok what hands do i beat if he never bluffs here and the player is fairly competent. I love the analysis great addition to the thread.

90% of the time i sigh and call.

I don't understand why you are donking there.

[tipp86]

Preflop is a fold for me 85% and a 3bet 15% it is never ever a call.

as played I call the flop and donk the turn to set up a river shove yourself. You dont want him checking it back because theres still lots to go in the middle. plus its fun taking different lines. anyway I thinking donking the turn is best.

Fold river you're never ahead



KQ soooooted is def a call there

Also your line is fine in the hand above until you get to the river. that just has to be a c/f if villain shoves. I dunno what you hope to achieve by leading out and in the case where you did you have to call it off now

Not sure about that AJ,KJ can call me easily and JJ,33 are the hands that shove. Il admit maybe you have a point but im not sure.

[Bubbleking]

Ok what hands do i beat if he never bluffs here and the player is fairly competent. I love the analysis great addition to the thread.

90% of the time i sigh and call.

your line should have been

flop - meh I have TPTK getting raised on an ultra dry board but I cant fold because thats super gay weak

Turn - easy fold if you didnt pair your Ace ball. villain has either JJ or 33 now for definite. but meh I have good implied equity so I guess I call and hope to house up. (no harm in folding here obv and I actually think its the best line)

River - just c/f. you arent going for thin value you are pealing off wads of virtual monies and setting them on fire

[tipp86]

I don't understand why you are donking there.

Ya true looking back maybe its bad. I guess im trying to get value from the few hands i beat as this guy will check back the hands i beat here but yet will most likely call $22. In hindsight maybe its bad but do we call a shove?

[AndyFatBastard]

Ya true looking back maybe its bad. I guess im trying to get value from the few hands i beat as this guy will check back the hands i beat here but yet will most likely call $22. In hindsight maybe its bad but do we call a shove?

You're getting a great price and KJ is such a large part of his range. It's probably a fold but I think with the "fuck that guy" factor nobody's actually folding.

[tipp86]

You're getting a great price and KJ is such a large part of his range. It's probably a fold but I think with the "fuck that guy" factor nobody's actually folding.

i think its a large part of his range until he shoves the river.

[Line Us]

Guess I posted the graph above too soon.

Today :

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[Guest]

Just hit -30 buyins since Christmas there today. Have won 5 stacks and after that nothing bigger than 50bb in 11k hands.

[Flushdraw]

Jesus, that's some sick EV you're missing out on there Line Us

What was the hand with the ~$6k pot around the 3100 hand mark? Looks like it was kick a penguin time

[Flushdraw]

Just hit -30 buyins since Christmas there today. Have won 5 stacks and after that nothing bigger than 50bb in 11k hands.

That's pretty disgusting zuutroy. You going to try and fight through it, or drop down to get a bit of confidence and try and claw back a bit?

[Teddie]

Ya true looking back maybe its bad. I guess im trying to get value from the few hands i beat as this guy will check back the hands i beat here but yet will most likely call $22. In hindsight maybe its bad but do we call a shove?

Bubbleking summed it up really. The only worse hand he'll check back is KJ, and even then I'm not sure he'll call with KJ if you donk river. He's just going to shove everything you beat, which is more hands then KJ.

[Guest]

That's pretty disgusting zuutroy. You going to try and fight through it, or drop down to get a bit of confidence and try and claw back a bit?

Already dropped down when I passed 20. Dunno what to do really...getting a bit sick of it now. I'm about 17 below EV over the stretch.

[Line Us]

Jesus, that's some sick EV you're missing out on there Line Us

What was the hand with the ~$6k pot around the 3100 hand mark? Looks like it was kick a penguin time

No-Limit Hold'em, $50.00 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($5000)
Hero (Button) ($5570)
SB ($6095)
BB ($5525)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4, 4
UTG bets $150, Hero calls $150, SB calls $125, 1 fold

Flop: ($500) 2, Q, 4 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $400, Hero calls $400, SB raises $1400, UTG calls $1000, Hero raises $5020 (All-In), SB raises $4545 (All-In), 1 fold

Turn: ($12740) 10 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($12740) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $12740

Results:
Hero had 4, 4 (three of a kind, fours).
SB had A, 7 (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: SB won $13260

BTW, I didnt raise the flop because sb checkraises super light in this spot. Lost another 7k in a flip after the graphs too, qq < ak ,so it looks a bit worse now again!

[AndyFatBastard]

Already dropped down when I passed 20. Dunno what to do really...getting a bit sick of it now. I'm about 17 below EV over the stretch.

Take a week off. Play a computer game or something else when you're bored. Civ5 came out recently, that should have plenty of strategy to keep a grinder's brain busy.

[JamieCarra]

Tourney hand I played earlier. Not sure if they're ever done in here but its not really worthy of its own thread.

14 left form 60 starters in a CPT €100 fo.

Avg stack: 68k

Blinds 3000/6000/500

Folded to Villain (85k) in CO who opens to 15k. I would view him as pretty aggro, opening wide and cbetting lots. Not much other reads, but he would be who I consider to be one of the better players at the table.

Folded to me in BB(110k) and I have A5o. My image would be a solid TAG.

I elect to flat. I considered 3betting as he would open wide in that spot, but I couldn't decide on a 3bet size (shove would have been too big imo, making it 40k is a bit ghey)


Flop A55.

I check call a 20k cbet.

Turn K

I check again, he checks behind.

River K

I check, he shoves for 50k.

Me??

Thought on all streets here please.

Seems a fairly standard shove pre. As played probably just check/shove flop.

[coillcam]

Take a week off. Play a computer game or something else when you're bored. Civ5 came out recently, that should have plenty of strategy to keep a grinder's brain busy.

He'll give up poker if he takes up civ, it's a full time occupation.

[AndyFatBastard]

He'll give up poker if he takes up civ, it's a full time occupation.

That's a fair point. Hello Kitty Island Adventure more his style?

[Guest]

I'm missing a few k hands that are on the laptop, but it actually doesn't look too bad when you look at the bb graph, but the euro graph is horrible. I wish I had've ran hot at 50 rather than 10 and 20!

[bohsman]

Im also running ridic bad, AA only my 4th biggest winning hand over 50k hands.