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Originally posted by KevIRL View PostWell there be decent gambling to be had on the lesser olympic sports this year seeing as its on so close?Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostI'll do some research later on today but Rounders123 is really the man to provide the formlines on the more esoteric disciplines. No doubt he is diligently researching the form of the Bulgarian weightlifting squad as we speak. Or possibly the Brazilian beach volleyball team.:tren
Now there's a sport we can all get behind.
Love so much olympic events im the ultimate olympic drooler . Love the heartbreak too if im honest, great rewinding those tears back!. Someone breaking down in the marathon, another dream dashed its just all give give give, When i was a young lad i remember cursing the fact it was only once every four years and remember actually totting up how many olympics im likely to watch before i die!(still not as bad as Barry Herridge the little creep).
The early rounds of the basketball will be brilliant too even though the American dream theyve been ruining it in recent times though. Only european based american cast offs should be allowed to represent America!. You want the Croatian, Serb, Turkey, Greece games for the fire and bad blood!.
It will be rick city with prices because firms wont know what theyre at as usual.
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Originally posted by The Situation View PostBenfica v Zenit game is perfectly poised after first leg which was one of the most exciting games I've seen in the CL this year."In the world, there are many kings but there is only one God. I am God, I am El Tren" :{)
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Originally posted by Micknail View PostI just got modded.
Originally posted by Caf View Posthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xmlAW_1hgT8
why is this just showing as a link and not the vid?
"you raise, i kill you" El Tren :{)
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Originally posted by rounders123 View PostThe handball is going to be epic. Its such a bottler sport even more than GAA probably because they are both amatuer. But its pure like golf. I dont like to say it but lay France. Back Sweden and Spain.
Love so much olympic events im the ultimate olympic drooler . Love the heartbreak too if im honest, great rewinding those tears back!. Someone breaking down in the marathon, another dream dashed its just all give give give, When i was a young lad i remember cursing the fact it was only once every four years and remember actually totting up how many olympics im likely to watch before i die!(still not as bad as Barry Herridge the little creep).
The early rounds of the basketball will be brilliant too even though the American dream theyve been ruining it in recent times though. Only european based american cast offs should be allowed to represent America!. You want the Croatian, Serb, Turkey, Greece games for the fire and bad blood!.
It will be rick city with prices because firms wont know what theyre at as usual.
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Originally posted by Caf View Posthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xmlAW_1hgT8
why is this just showing as a link and not the vid?Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
when you go to share click on long link
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Originally posted by Sledgejammer View PostYeah, can't believe any non supporter of Arsenal or Milan is watching that game tbh, this one is beautifully set up. I'll switch back when RVP bangs in his first half hat trick though, I wouldn't give many teams a chance at 4-0 down but Arsenal have pretty clearly demonstrated that they have the big heart...
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Originally posted by Sledgejammer View PostYeah, can't believe any non supporter of Arsenal or Milan is watching that game tbh, this one is beautifully set up. I'll switch back when RVP bangs in his first half hat trick though, I wouldn't give many teams a chance at 4-0 down but Arsenal have pretty clearly demonstrated that they have the big heart...
Also LiveOnlineFooty have added an F1 channel to their roster nice, speaking of them I hooked up my Macbook to the tv in the sitting room and streamed the HD match of Utd vs Spurs on Sunday, wow it looked fantastic on the big screen very impressed by it."you raise, i kill you" El Tren :{)
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Originally posted by tylerdurden94 View PostI don't see it on any of the stations/liveonlinefooty?
Also LiveOnlineFooty have added an F1 channel to their roster nice, speaking of them I hooked up my Macbook to the tv in the sitting room and streamed the HD match of Utd vs Spurs on Sunday, wow it looked fantastic on the big screen very impressed by it."In the world, there are many kings but there is only one God. I am God, I am El Tren" :{)
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide to... View PostEveryone has a different value for insurance, it depends on your extent of risk aversion; i.e. how willing you are to take risk.
My mother asked me to book flights and hotels for her to London. Having chosen a suitable hotel for a good price there was then the issue of paying for the 4 nights up front with no comeback, or paying ~ €100 extra for the option of cancelling if something should happen.
That is €100 extras on top of €568. I explained in terms of the probability of something happening within the next month which would prevent travel and the fact that she would be paying between 1/5th and 1/6th extra.
But while she intellectually understood the maths and the rationale, she is psychologically risk aversive. She considered paying €568 up front a "gamble". I tried to reframe it as being a form of gamble either way, and that locking in an unnecessary loss must relate to the odds of something happening which would make that a useful thing.
But she insisted that she just wasn't a gambler, and that the thought of risking the €568 a month in advance bothered her.
So here we have exactly the difference between HH and BCB/Strewelpeter's perspectives. I was trying to inculcate in her a dispassionate, calculating perspective, but she was being a human being and being emotionally true to her level of psychological risk aversion.
But I couldn't do anything with that. It was an amorphous, seemingly unquantifiable, or, at least, inarticulable risk aversion response. Now probably if I had started with it being a €100 possible loss instead of €568 then I might have reached a tipping point and used that as a way of crudely categorising the risk aversion in this situation. But that would only measure the tipping point.
What all of this does is relegate finance and economic theory to the rubbish bin at the microlevel insofar as they are defined in non-behavioural economic or neuroeconomic terms. It becomes more of an issue of psychology and neuroscience, and only economics in the sense of economic psychology, in the same way that there is forensic psychology (i.e. it *is* psychology, but psychology applied to a particular area).
How 20th century economics co-existed in the way it did with the cultural acceptance of psychoanalysis which undermined conscious rationality is a mystery to me. It has taken the work of the likes of Khaneman and Tversky and the growing field of neuroscience to hammer home the reality that at the micro level human economic rationality is lol.
It may be considered to be similar to the effects on ethics of neuroethics over the past couple of years. What people feel comfortable about is due to things a lot less rational and explicable than we have tended to imagine, including things which you would find in a traditional finance or economics book.
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Ibra isn't great.X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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It's a start. Go on you Arsenal.X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by A_CitizenErased View PostBoom Arsenal.
Hope they do it tonight. Have 3 quid on them to qualify 25/1
/ballerX can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by hotspur View PostI was pondering this the night before last.
My mother asked me to book flights and hotels for her to London. Having chosen a suitable hotel for a good price there was then the issue of paying for the 4 nights up front with no comeback, or paying ~ €100 extra for the option of cancelling if something should happen.
That is €100 extras on top of €568. I explained in terms of the probability of something happening within the next month which would prevent travel and the fact that she would be paying between 1/5th and 1/6th extra.
But while she intellectually understood the maths and the rationale, she is psychologically risk aversive. She considered paying €568 up front a "gamble". I tried to reframe it as being a form of gamble either way, and that locking in an unnecessary loss must relate to the odds of something happening which would make that a useful thing.
But she insisted that she just wasn't a gambler, and that the thought of risking the €568 a month in advance bothered her.
So here we have exactly the difference between HH and BCB/Strewelpeter's perspectives. I was trying to inculcate in her a dispassionate, calculating perspective, but she was being a human being and being emotionally true to her level of psychological risk aversion.
But I couldn't do anything with that. It was an amorphous, seemingly unquantifiable, or, at least, inarticulable risk aversion response. Now probably if I had started with it being a €100 possible loss instead of €568 then I might have reached a tipping point and used that as a way of crudely categorising the risk aversion in this situation. But that would only measure the tipping point.
What all of this does is relegate finance and economic theory to the rubbish bin at the microlevel insofar as they are defined in non-behavioural economic or neuroeconomic terms. It becomes more of an issue of psychology and neuroscience, and only economics in the sense of economic psychology, in the same way that there is forensic psychology (i.e. it *is* psychology, but psychology applied to a particular area).
How 20th century economics co-existed in the way it did with the cultural acceptance of psychoanalysis which undermined conscious rationality is a mystery to me. It has taken the work of the likes of Khaneman and Tversky and the growing field of neuroscience to hammer home the reality that at the micro level human economic rationality is lol.
It may be considered to be similar to the effects on ethics of neuroethics over the past couple of years. What people feel comfortable about is due to things a lot less rational and explicable than we have tended to imagine, including things which you would find in a traditional finance or economics book."In the world, there are many kings but there is only one God. I am God, I am El Tren" :{)
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Originally posted by rounders123 View PostThe handball is going to be epic. Its such a bottler sport even more than GAA probably because they are both amatuer. But its pure like golf. I dont like to say it but lay France. Back Sweden and Spain.
Love so much olympic events im the ultimate olympic drooler . Love the heartbreak too if im honest, great rewinding those tears back!. Someone breaking down in the marathon, another dream dashed its just all give give give, When i was a young lad i remember cursing the fact it was only once every four years and remember actually totting up how many olympics im likely to watch before i die!(still not as bad as Barry Herridge the little creep).
The early rounds of the basketball will be brilliant too even though the American dream theyve been ruining it in recent times though. Only european based american cast offs should be allowed to represent America!. You want the Croatian, Serb, Turkey, Greece games for the fire and bad blood!.
It will be rick city with prices because firms wont know what theyre at as usual.
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Originally posted by Sledgejammer View PostShould have offered her the same insurance for ninety euro imo, easy game
Gibbs is gonna ruin an otherwise epic night for Arsenal imo. I have always thought he was utter muck.
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Originally posted by shrapnel View Postsame here tbh, absolutely love and am in awe of the Olympics (always dreamt of participating also). handball, volleyball, judo, diving, swimming, athletics, weightlifting, rowing, etc.... i just can't get enough tbh. i wish sky or bbc or whoever did a 24/7 channel i could record for the duration and then watch every competition at my leisure.
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostWho will offer me odds on AC scoring at least 2 here tonight?X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Arsenal attempting to summon the big heart of Champions League winner:
X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by KevIRL View PostThe idea of an Olympic village always did it for me, I remember as a kid seeing the athletics participants turning up about 2 weeks into the Olympics or the swimmers heading home and thinking WTF! I'd be there for the duration!
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