Bad beat/Moan/Venting Thread - BBV Archive 1

[Bubbleking]

I have been to a load of penn state games this little clip just gives you an idea of the atmosphere (the stadium literally shakes when they score) 110 000 people

this was the white out for Notre Dame game

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Iv also been to a couple of Steelers games including the one below - In real time I thought it was the greatest thing iv ever seen.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGlFqdjYqu4&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGlFqdjYqu4&feature=related[/ame]

[Jackyback]

CKID - no he didnt pay me back

165$

Did he do anyone else on here?

[DAMO72]

I missed the programme on 9/11 tonite , is there anywhere else i can watch it or is it on again sometime??

[Bubbleking]

NFL is shite. Discuss.

Edit: I'm not really trolling here lads, my bad.

I've randomly attempted to watch highlights/ the superbowl and other random NFL stuff but I never got into it.

I realise that millions of people can't be wrong and I could probably get sucked in if I knew where I was coming from.

What makes it so enjoyable to watch?

Any good 'beginners guide' type stuff out there regarding rules etc?

Tyty.

ok its hard to find a starting point - do you know the rules?

[ghostface]

college >>>>>>>>> NFL IMO

and with the gay 1st week out of the way things are back in business from this thursday

Never watched any college ball really, point out a few matches for me to watch over the weekend BK. I suppose it has to be streamed

[dannydiamond]

ok its hard to find a starting point - do you know the rules?

Not really.

[8611]

You don't transfer/import music to squeezebox, it just scans where your music is and then works from there. doesn't move/change it or anything.

eh, does this mean I have to have my laptop in the house and on to play the music?? if so then maybe I'm coming at this arseways and what I really want is a large MP3 storage device and a remote control with a screen on it. FFS....

and more worryingly will this eat into my internet bandwidth? I presume not, it'll just take up space on my own network?? excuse lack of technical understanding, I grew up with C64 and haven't really moved on...

[DAMO72]

When i watch any of the clips that is posted the picture seems to freeze every few secs and there is a litttle white thing moving clockwise on the screen . Is this normal , how can i get rid of it . Its so fkn annoying.

[8611]

incidentally, is what I want this thing to do really obscure or something? I would have thought there's a huge market for this kind of stuff but apparently not, in fact, the whole home audio thing seems to have gone out the window. there are are no longer any dedicated hi-fi stores in Dublin (so far as I can see), I can't seem to buy speaker stands. does no-one listen to music out loud anymore?

[JackBurton]

I missed the programme on 9/11 tonite , is there anywhere else i can watch it or is it on again sometime??

What channel was it on?

[DAMO72]

What channel was it on?

TV3

[Caf]

When i watch any of the clips that is posted the picture seems to freeze every few secs and there is a litttle white thing moving clockwise on the screen . Is this normal , how can i get rid of it . Its so fkn annoying.

I think it's that your computer is on a go slow. Used to happen to me. the little round thing in the screen means that it is buffering(loading) so if you see the faint red line across the bottom, you can allow that to fill the bar and it should play normally. Prob an idea to get someone to wipe/clean your computer, but I know v little about this stuff...

[Angry-Ball]

sexual thoughts

[JackBurton]

TV3

go to their website, you'll probably have to wait till tomorrow click on videos and they have almost everything they've shown before, you'd be unlucky if it's not included. I'd be surprised. Recently was on it looking at that CAB thing that was lasyt year. Pretty easy to navigate.

[Icarus152]

sexual thoughts

Name change time maybe? Porn ball?

[Lurker23]

Any good 'beginners guide' type stuff out there regarding rules etc?

Tyty.

Here's a small bit on the rules. Might be a bit too wordy but breaks it down quite well.

http://dcusaints.com/main/football-basics/

/shameless plug of my team

Also, I'm pretty sure Sky dedicate one of the early weeks of their coverage each year to explain the game to new viewers.

[Megatron]

Name change time maybe? Porn ball?

Horn ball might be a bit more apt.

The avatar might be a bit offensive though.

[Denny Crane]

eh, does this mean I have to have my laptop in the house and on to play the music?? if so then maybe I'm coming at this arseways and what I really want is a large MP3 storage device and a remote control with a screen on it. FFS....

and more worryingly will this eat into my internet bandwidth? I presume not, it'll just take up space on my own network?? excuse lack of technical understanding, I grew up with C64 and haven't really moved on...

Yeah, you have to store the music somewhere else, either on your computer or on a network attached server (NAS) which I think it basically an external hardive that works wirelessly.

might want someone else to confirm but basically something like this i think:

http://www.komplett.ie/Komplett/product/ZKB_01COM/11_HDD/08_NAS/productdetails/10022073/LaCie_Network_Space_V2_1TB/301515EK/default.aspx

[Icarus152]

Blue balls?

[Bubbleking]

Never watched any college ball really, point out a few matches for me to watch over the weekend BK. I suppose it has to be streamed

yeah it can usually be got from veetle or if your lucky some colleges have their own streaming channel

As for me Penn State @ Alabama on sat is a must watch

[DAMO72]

Horn ball might be a bit more apt.

The avatar might be a bit offensive though.

Head the Ball IMO

[JackBurton]

Blue balls?

Dick ball. Fits on more than one level

[Sledgejammer]

It's so very frustrating to see how good Argentina could have been at the world cup with a legally sane manager in charge. I know tonight was only a friendly, but just looking at the sheer quality of the line up even with a couple of players out compared to the dross that was playing at the WC, good god...

[Icarus152]

Got it, Hand Ball.

[JackBurton]

Got it, Hand Ball.

Think we've got a winner, do i hear hear anything else, going once, going twice....

[Angry-Ball]

imatureaments

[Caf]

sexual thoughts

imatureaments

Which post do you be talking about?

lolaments!

[Fiend]

16 year old Fernandez Suso had his debut tonight for Liverpool reserves v Newcastle reserves.

Brief highlights here

http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/fernandez-suso-v-newcastle-reserves-video_32bcd06b4.html

I like

[Bubbleking]

Not really.

it really is very simple - iv copied the stuff below from the NFL website. its just such an exciting sport to watch. Every play matters and its usually really exciting if close at the end here are some good ones

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieYWPSptJEc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieYWPSptJEc[/ame]

Beginner's Guide to Football

One 11-man team has possession of the football. It is called the offense and it tries to advance the ball down the field-by running with the ball or throwing it - and score points by crossing the goal line and getting into an area called the end zone.

The other team (also with 11 players) is called the defense. It tries to stop the offensive team and make it give up possession of the ball. If the team with the ball does score or is forced to give up possession, the offensive and defensive teams switch roles (the offensive team goes on defense and the defensive team goes on offense). And so on, back and forth, until all four quarters of the game have been played.

In order to make it easier to coordinate the information in this digest, the topics discussed generally follow the order of the rule book.
THE FIELD
The field measures 100 yards long and 53 yards wide. Little white markings on the field called yard markers help the players, officials, and the fans keep track of the ball. Probably the most important part of the field is the end zone. It's an additional 10 yards on each end of the field. This is where the points add up! When the offense - the team with possession of the ball-gets the ball into the opponent's end zone, they score points.
TIMING

Games are divided into four 15-minute quarters, separated by a 12-minute break at halftime. There are also 2-minute breaks at the end of the first and third quarters as teams change ends of the field after every 15 minutes of play. At the end of the first and third quarters, the team with the ball retains possession heading into the following quarter. That is not the case before halftime. The second half starts with a kickoff in the same way as the game began in the first quarter.

Each offensive team has 40 seconds from the end of a given play until they must snap of the ball for the start of the next play, otherwise they will be penalized.

The clock stops at the end of incomplete passing plays, when a player goes out of bounds, or when a penalty is called. The clock starts again when the ball is re-spotted by an official.

If a game is tied at the end of regulation, a 15-minute overtime period will be played. In the NFL, this is sudden death and the first team to score wins. Possession is determined before the period begins by a coin toss.
THE PLAYERS

Each team has 3 separate units: the offense (see section below), those players who are on the field when the team has possession of the ball; the defense (see section below), players who line up to stop the other team's offense; and special teams that only come in on kicking situations (punts, field goals, and kickoffs). Only 11 players are on the field from one team at any one time.

To see how the players line up click here
THE KICKOFF

A game starts with the kickoff. The ball is placed on a kicking tee at the defense's 30-yard line, and a special kicker (a "placekicker") kicks the ball to the offense A kick return man from the offense will try to catch the ball and advance it by running. Where he is stopped is the point from which the offense will begin its drive, or series of offensive plays. When a kickoff is caught in the offense's own end zone, the kick returner can either run the ball out of the end zone, or kneel in the end zone to signal a touchback - a sign to stop the play. The ball is then placed on the 20-yard line, where the offense begins play.
FIRST DOWN

All progress in a football game is measured in yards. The offensive team tries to get as much "yardage" as it can to try and move closer to the opponent's end zone. Each time the offense gets the ball, it has four downs, or chances, in which to gain 10 yards. If the offensive team successfully moves the ball 10 or more yards, it earns a first down, and another set of four downs. If the offense fails to gain 10 yards, it loses possession of the ball. The defense tries to prevent the offense not only from scoring, but also from gaining the 10 yards needed for a first down. If the offense reaches fourth down, it usually punts the ball (kicks it away). This forces the other team to begin its drive further down the field.
MOVING THE BALL - The Run and the Pass

A play begins with the snap. At the line of scrimmage (the position on the field where the play begins), the quarterback loudly calls out a play in code and the player in front of him, the center, passes, or snaps the ball under his legs to the quarterback. From there, the quarterback can either throw the ball, hand it off, or run with it.
THE RUN

There are two main ways for the offense to advance the ball. The first is called a run. This occurs when the quarterback hands the ball off to a running back, who then tries to gain as many yards as possible by eluding defensive players. The quarterback is also allowed to run with the ball.
THE PASS

The other alternative to running the ball is to throw it. Or as they say in football, pass it! Usually, the quarterback does the passing, though there are times when another player may pass the ball to confuse the defense. Actually, anyone on the offensive team is allowed to pass the ball as long as the pass is thrown from behind the line of scrimmage. A pass is complete if the ball is caught by another offensive player, usually the "wide receiver" or "tight end." If the ball hits the ground before someone catches it, it is called an incomplete pass.
THE TACKLE

The defense prevents the offense from advancing the ball by bringing the ball carrier to the ground. A player is tackled when one or both of his knees touch the ground. The play is then over. A play also ends when a player runs out of bounds.
SCORING

The object of the game is to score the most points. There are four ways to score points in football.
TOUCHDOWN = 6 POINTS

A touchdown is the biggest single score in a football game. It is worth six points, and it allows the scoring team an opportunity to attempt to get an extra point. To score a touchdown, the ball must be carried across the goal line into the end zone, caught in the end zone, or a fumble recovered in the end zone, or an untouched kickoff recovered in the end zone by the kicking team.
EXTRA POINT and the TWO-POINT CONVERSION = 1 or 2 POINTS

Immediately following a touchdown, the ball is placed at the opponent's two-yard line, where the offense has two options. Usually the offense will kick an extra point, also called the point after touchdown, conversion, or PAT. If the offense successfully kicks the ball through the goal posts, it earns one point. The offense can also score two points by running or throwing the ball into the end zone in the same manner as you would score a touchdown. Since going for two points is more difficult than kicking an extra point, the offense generally chooses to kick the extra point.
FIELD GOAL = 3 POINTS

If the offense cannot score a touchdown, it may try to kick a field goal. Field goals are worth three points and often are the deciding plays in the last seconds of close games. They can be attempted from anywhere on the field on any down, but generally are kicked from inside the defense's 45-yard line on fourth down. For a field goal to be "good", the placekicker (or field goal kicker) must kick the ball through the goal-post uprights and over the crossbar. The defense tries to block the kick and stop the ball from reaching the goal post.
SAFETY = 2 POINTS

The safety is worth two points. A safety occurs when the offensive ball carrier is tackled behind his own goal line.
TURNOVERS

While trying to advance the football to the end zone, the offense may accidentally turn the ball over to the defense in one of two ways:
THE FUMBLE

When the ball carrier or passer drops the ball, that's a fumble. Any player on the field can recover the ball by diving on it or he can run with it. The team that recovers a fumble either gets-or retains-possession of the ball.
THE INTERCEPTION

An aggressive defense can regain possession of the ball by catching (intercepting) passes meant for players on the other team. Both fumble recoveries and interceptions can be run back into the end zone for touchdowns.
THE TWO SIDES OF THE BALL
THE OFFENSE

Whichever team has possession of the ball is the offense. While only the quarterback, the wide receivers and tight ends, and the running backs can legally handle the ball, it is the quarterback who is the leader of the team and the playmaker. In fact, he's a man of many talents - he not only throws the ball, he outlines each play to his team.
THE OFFENSIVE PLAYERS

* The quarterback ("QB") passes or hands off the ball.
* The center snaps the ball to the QB and blocks the defense.
* 2 guards and 2 tackles keep the defense at bay.
* 2/4 wide receivers catch the ball thrown by the QB.
* 1 or 2 running backs take the ball and run with it.
* 1 or 2 tight ends block the defense and can also catches passes.

THE DEFENSE

The job of the defense is to stop the offense. The 11 men on the defensive team all work together to keep the offense from advancing toward the defense's end zone.
THE DEFENSIVE PLAYERS

* Linebackers defend against the pass, and push forward to stop the run or tackle the QB.
* The defensive line (ends and tackles) battles head-to-head against the offensive line.
* Cornerbacks and safeties defend against the pass from the QB to the wide receiver and help to stop the run.

[dannydiamond]

Here's a small bit on the rules. Might be a bit too wordy but breaks it down quite well.

http://dcusaints.com/main/football-basics/

/shameless plug of my team

Also, I'm pretty sure Sky dedicate one of the early weeks of their coverage each year to explain the game to new viewers.

Cheers, have it bookmarked and will have a read tomorrow, along with the Razz stategy guide for the leage game game tomorrow night, I'll try and not get the two confused!

[ArmaniJeans]

I missed the programme on 9/11 tonite , is there anywhere else i can watch it or is it on again sometime??

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/102-minutes-changed-america/

[Lurker23]

Odd-Ball obv.

[Megatron]

Odd-Ball obv.

Winner

[dannydiamond]

Tx bubbleking. Appreciate that.

[Bubbleking]

Here's a small bit on the rules. Might be a bit too wordy but breaks it down quite well.

http://dcusaints.com/main/football-basics/

/shameless plug of my team

Also, I'm pretty sure Sky dedicate one of the early weeks of their coverage each year to explain the game to new viewers.

I didnt know you play for the saints? any chance i could play this year? I always wanted to get into it

[6starpool]

16 year old Fernandez Suso had his debut tonight for Liverpool reserves v Newcastle reserves.

Brief highlights here

http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/fernandez-suso-v-newcastle-reserves-video_32bcd06b4.html

I like

He played a few times for the effective reserves in pre season (the Liverpool XI teams) and he has looked absolute gold. I have everything corssed that is possible to cross for him to progress and be as good as his immense potential. There are a few other decent young prospects in the offing too, not least a giant Portuguese 16 year old winger called Silva. He hasn't played for the reserves proper so far, but did feature in a few of the pre season games and looks good.

Apparantly Andre Wisdom at CB tonight was excellent as well.

[JackBurton]

Also Danny with regards the NFL they try and make it as competitive as possible.

There is a salary cap and there is also a draft every April during the off season. Here is where the best of the college stars are picked but the beauty of it is that the team with the worst record of the previous season gets first pick in the draft which all helps in trying to even it all up.

They all have super stadiums that are almost always full every week. The smallest would hold say 55000 off the top of my head and u can really get a feel for the atmosphere of a live game, even on the box.

Just a small couple of reasons other than the actual game itself on why i like it anyway

[Angry-Ball]

Also Danny with regards the NFL they try and make it as competitive as possible.

There is a salary cap and there is also a draft every April during the off season. Here is where the best of the college stars are picked but the beauty of it is that the team with the worst record of the previous season gets first pick in the draft which all helps in trying to even it all up.

They all have super stadiums that are almost always full every week. The smallest would hold say 55000 off the top of my head and u can really get a feel for the atmosphere of a live game, even on the box.

Just a small couple of reasons other than the actual game itself on why i like it anyway

and they use a rugby ball aswell
and you can buy hotdogs at the game
i picked all this up from the simpsons

[Lurker23]

Of course you can BK. I'll let you know when training starts back. Probably in Oct.

Any positions you'd prefer? I love defense. Started out as a corner but six years and 40lbs later I'm an olb/mlb. If you think it's fun to watch just wait til you play it...

The offer is open to anyone else too btw. We're always on the lookout for new players.

[sligoboi]

Of course you can BK. I'll let you know when training starts back. Probably in Oct.

Any positions you'd prefer? I love defense. Started out as a corner but six years and 40lbs later I'm an olb/mlb. If you think it's fun to watch just wait til you play it...

The offer is open to anyone else too btw. We're always on the lookout for new players.

Think I seen one of yer games a while back..around May? I was working out there with the Special Olympics and there was a game out there on the top pitch. Didn't get to see much of it actually as was working but would have loved to seen more of it..Never seen a live game. Love watching it on the box though.

[6starpool]

Of course you can BK. I'll let you know when training starts back. Probably in Oct.

Any positions you'd prefer? I love defense. Started out as a corner but six years and 40lbs later I'm an olb/mlb. If you think it's fun to watch just wait til you play it...

The offer is open to anyone else too btw. We're always on the lookout for new players.

Out of curiousity, would you spell 'defense' normally if you were writing it in any other context except for American Football?

[AKQJ10]

Does anyone remember where to get that programme that lets you watch tv stations on your laptop? It was posted in the BBV maybe 4/5 months ago

[Bubbleking]

Of course you can BK. I'll let you know when training starts back. Probably in Oct.

Any positions you'd prefer? I love defense. Started out as a corner but six years and 40lbs later I'm an olb/mlb. If you think it's fun to watch just wait til you play it...

The offer is open to anyone else too btw. We're always on the lookout for new players.

where do you think Id be most suited for?

Im 5'10 200lb and can run the 40 in about 5.4. Iv always played Gaelic football so wherever the easiest transition would be?

[Trippie]

Of course you can BK. I'll let you know when training starts back. Probably in Oct.

Any positions you'd prefer? I love defense. Started out as a corner but six years and 40lbs later I'm an olb/mlb. If you think it's fun to watch just wait til you play it...

The offer is open to anyone else too btw. We're always on the lookout for new players.

id be interested in joining up too if i come back

[Flushdraw]

DodgyBall
GoofBall
ScrewBall ftw

[Caf]

head-da-ball

[DAMO72]

where do you think Id be most suited for?

Im 5'10 200lb and can run the 40 in about 5.4. Iv always played Gaelic football so wherever the easiest transition would be?

Fat cnut

[6starpool]

Entertaining womens tennis match on (for a change). Venus Williams vs Schiavone.

[Lurker23]

Think I seen one of yer games a while back..around May? I was working out there with the Special Olympics and there was a game out there on the top pitch. Didn't get to see much of it actually as was working but would have loved to seen more of it..Never seen a live game. Love watching it on the box though.

Yeah that's right. It was the last game of the regular season. You should definitely go to a few games next year and see what you think. The Irish league standard isn't bad at all.

Out of curiousity, would you spell 'defense' normally if you were writing it in any other context except for American Football?

It's crazy how the mind works. I never realised that before but yeah I'd spell it normally for everything else.

[Lurker23]

where do you think Id be most suited for?

Im 5'10 200lb and can run the 40 in about 5.4. Iv always played Gaelic football so wherever the easiest transition would be?

I've noticed GAA players are usually good WRs. Excellent hands. You're a similar size to me so maybe LB would suit too. Although, if you're really good, you can play ironman

Also, I think it all depends on your mindset. I have absolutely no interest in scoring points / carrying the ball but love the aggressive and physical nature of defensive football. Dont get me wrong, if I have to do a job on offense I'll do it but I just naturally prefer defense. Special teams is a barrel of fun too.

[kakak1]

Dave what was the world like before they invented colour ?

a lot darker but still full of big cnuts like you...............

[sligoboi]

Yeah that's right. It was the last game of the regular season. You should definitely go to a few games next year and see what you think. The Irish league standard isn't bad at all.

Nah I was up there for Work Placement for college for 4 months. Best 4 months of my short working life but am back home now. Cheers anyway

[kakak1]

Fat cnut

[Kayroo]

I've noticed GAA players are usually good WRs. Excellent hands. You're a similar size to me so maybe LB would suit too. Although, if you're really good, you can play ironman

Also, I think it all depends on your mindset. I have absolutely no interest in scoring points / carrying the ball but love the aggressive and physical nature of defensive football. Dont get me wrong, if I have to do a job on offense I'll do it but I just naturally prefer defense. Special teams is a barrel of fun too.

God that sounds like fun. The physicality always appealed to me but I never realised you could play here. Let us know when there are games on, I'd love to watch. Don't go to DCU so I'll leave the playing to you studenty types but I'd dare say a few heads might like to see a live game.

[6starpool]

Messi eat your heart out!!!!

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh_bwQgWHnc&[/ame]

[Trippie]

where do you think Id be most suited for?

Im 5'10 200lb and can run the 40 in about 5.4. Iv always played Gaelic football so wherever the easiest transition would be?

I had a fitness evaluation over here and weighed in at 198 and am 5'9, dropped 25 lbs in a few weeks but still look the same in my eyes, no idea where the weight was. About 180 now coming into new season. never run a 40 so no idea how quick I am but next to the black guy on the rugby team im the fastest so thats pretty good imo

also no idea what position i could play, dont have gaa player hands as theirs are always immense

Fat cnut

lol damo.

[Lurker23]

God that sounds like fun. The physicality always appealed to me but I never realised you could play here. Let us know when there are games on, I'd love to watch. Don't go to DCU so I'll leave the playing to you studenty types but I'd dare say a few heads might like to see a live game.

The season is a good six or seven months away. I'll let you know when the time comes. Oh and might I add that you don't have to be a student/alumni of the college to play. No excuses Kayroo

Ok so another 25ish players and we can set up an IPB team to make an assault on the Shamrock Bowl (our version of the Super Bowl).

[Lurker23]

I had a fitness evaluation over here and weighed in at 198 and am 5'9, dropped 25 lbs in a few weeks but still look the same in my eyes, no idea where the weight was. About 180 now coming into new season. never run a 40 so no idea how quick I am but next to the black guy on the rugby team im the fastest so thats pretty good imo

Lol. That should be the standard way to measure speed imo.

[Trippie]

Lol. That should be the standard way to measure speed imo.

by how much he beats ya is a standard unit of measure over here. Got to within 5 feet over 100m the other week nd was bragging as if it was a victory

[Ste05]

Messi eat your heart out!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh_bwQgWHnc&

Jaysus, he looks as good as Messi did in that YT clip of him playing as a kid too!!

2.16 is pretty impressive.