Bad beat/Moan/Venting Thread - BBV Archive 1

[Guest]

Eh Danny, I think you would be bright enough to know that I'm far from being a chest thumping Celtic drooler.
lol's
The point of my post is the rarity with which an Old Firm side has been so badly beaten by a non Old Firm side during my time as a football fan.

I am of the firm belief that if yer man the current manager of Celtic turned up at an Irish dole office he would be turned away for not being smart enough to be allowed sign.

He is an awful idiot......which make me...

Strachan out I hear them cry as the kiss all the trophies goodbye

Was on Dundee Utd at 7/2 to beat Satan's Minion's last night.. which also makes me...

G'wan The Saints indeed!

[Angry-Ball]

morning lads

[Raoul Duke III]

The teachers have been told there will be no strike pay

that's some good news!

Just my anectodal take on things; social workers, teachers, medical staff and university workers all seem opposed to strike action (the ones I know anyway) - and they all seem to be very far removed from their union representatives. Most PS workers aren't stupid, they can see the state of the public finances and while they're obviously not happy about the pay cuts, they know that they're not going to get that pay restored. Most of them also recognise that they'll be lucky to escape further pay cuts.

[ghostface]

Need a bit of a vent.

An bord pleannala today refected allready granted by DCC planning permission for M&S at Jervis street to carry out a ten storey extention of their premises. FFS theres 200 250 well paid construction sector jobs for the next three years washed away, 200 that would come straight off the public sector dole bill and start paying into the system. Not to mention the spin off in the PAYE, PRSI, Vat, bulding supplies and development contributions. The mind just fcuking boggles tbh.

Personally Ive had 3 of the most modest planning applications Ive ever made turned down in the last 12 months, what are the planners thinking? every construction worker in the country is on the dole and they wont let an application through. With a bit of common sense 15 men wouldnt have had to be laid off and go from paying tax to claiming sw benefits.

Totally agree with this, I'm actually a town planner but in the private sector and some of the decisons form ABP recently are becoming ridiculous. A lot of local authorities don't seem to care/take into account the current economic situation, altho having said that some are very understanding, more so the Country ones and maybe one of the Dublin authorities

[Guest]

Headphones on
some of the song lyrics possibly NSFW

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WqOOPhxHmE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WqOOPhxHmE[/ame]

[RasTa]

Should the Government invest another €9 billion in Anglo Irish Bank?

[LuckyLloyd]

Should the Government invest another €9 billion in Anglo Irish Bank?

No.

[Raoul Duke III]

going to see this tonight, will either be enthralling or sleep-inducing

[Raoul Duke III]

Should the Government invest another €9 billion in Anglo Irish Bank?

what level are you asking the question on?

moral? (clearly NO)
legal? (they have no choice given the criminal guarantee and nationalisation)
practical (given the legal situation, they are probably right to stretch the wind-down out over as long a period as possible)

**the above should in no way be construed as support for, or justification of, government policy

[Jackyback]

Should the Government invest another €9 billion in Anglo Irish Bank?

Only if they like burning money which they most likely do.

[Guest]

going to see this tonight, will either be enthralling or sleep-inducing

I would get the 1 and 1 on the way there as you may not fancy it on the way home

[RasTa]

No.

what level are you asking the question on?

moral? (clearly NO)
legal? (they have no choice given the criminal guarantee and nationalisation)
practical (given the legal situation, they are probably right to stretch the wind-down out over as long a period as possible)

**the above should in no way be construed as support for, or justification of, government policy

Only if they like burning money which they most likely do.

Oh I forgot to inlcude the link

http://www.irishtimes.com/polls/index.cfm?fuseaction=yesnopoll&pollid=9285&answer=1

The Anglo chief is claiming it will cost 27billion to liquadate them http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...reaking22.html

[Raoul Duke III]

I would get the 1 and 1 on the way there as you may not fancy it on the way home

fish pie for dinner in the Duke household tonight

I'm sure it was all sustainably caught

[Raoul Duke III]

Oh I forgot to inlcude the link

http://www.irishtimes.com/polls/index.cfm?fuseaction=yesnopoll&pollid=9285&answer=1

The Anglo chief is claiming it will cost 27billion to liquadate them http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...reaking22.html

the scariest shit of all is the Anglo derivatives book

[Raoul Duke III]

also, I'd like to applaud myself for my long-standing forecast of Anglo costing the taxpayer somewhere in the region of 30bn

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[Guest]

fish pie for dinner in the Duke household tonight

I'm sure it was all sustainably caught

Bought a bit of smoked cod in the supermarket the other day, first time in years (was half asleep and not thinking)
cost a bloody fortune

A head chef told me years ago that if we didn't sort out the over fishing lark we would end up going to the chipper for salmon and expensive restaurants for cod

back to the fishfingers me thinks

[KevIRL]

Going on the duck from work ftw!

[Raoul Duke III]

Bought a bit of smoked cod in the supermarket the other day, first time in years (was half asleep and not thinking)
cost a bloody fortune

A head chef told me years ago that if we didn't sort out the over fishing lark we would end up going to the chipper for salmon and expensive restaurants for cod

back to the fishfingers me thinks

oh yeah you shouldn't be eating cod at all, my friend that is doing the thing tonight would probably faint away at the thought (delicate type)

read [ame="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cod-Biography-Fish-Changed-World/dp/0099268701/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1269513456&sr=8-4"]this book[/ame]

[kakak1]

how do I post a Windows Media Player file here (its a WMV file)

[AdMMM]

Totally agree with this, I'm actually a town planner but in the private sector and some of the decisons form ABP recently are becoming ridiculous. A lot of local authorities don't seem to care/take into account the current economic situation, altho having said that some are very understanding, more so the Country ones and maybe one of the Dublin authorities

While in no way condoning or criticising any specific An Bord Pleanala decisions, I think that it's important that they're not lenient purely on the basis of the current and likely temporary economic situation. Just because somebody wants to build something somewhere, doesn't mean it should automatically be approved and the applicant given a standing ovation. A lot of developments are unsustainable, an eyesore or not fitting with an areas development plan. We can't expect An Bord to ignore these factors and approve left, right and centre just because we're currently stuck in a rut. It's also worth noting that in 5 years time, when we're out of this mess, An Bord will be the first to come under fire for allowing the eyesore/vacant/monstrosity to be built.

[RasTa]

Dunnes have cheap fresh fish all the time but it goes against buying my meat in the supermarket policy.

[Raoul Duke III]

Dunnes have cheap fresh fish all the time but it goes against buying my meat in the supermarket policy.

that's a good policy (one place that is an exception to your rule is Fresh but it's damn expensive)

fishmongers are usually cheaper than the supermarket too, much fresher and better produce and are usually quite helpful in terms of advice. Same goes for butchers - but they're easier to find than fishmongers.

There's a really good one in the industrial estate in Coolock (of all places), they mainly supply restaurants but have a shop for the general public as well - Kish Fish, would be well worth a trip if you're cooking a big meal or something. Another good one in Fairview whose name I forget but their motto is 'if it swims, we have it' . Also, plenty in Howth obviously.

[tylerdurden94]

Looking some advice.

A few of us are heading down to Dublin at the end of april, we'll be looking to play a game around €100. I've had a look at the main casinos and there seems to be a few games that suit, I was just wondering what the local players think the best value and numbers are in Dublin?

We were looking at the likes of the SE Saturday €70, the Fitz Thursday €95, Bluff €100 weekly game.

The SE Saturday game isnt much of a runner if it does get going gets 1 table so i would avoid and choose somewhere else so, shame thou as its a quality game.

going to see this tonight, will either be enthralling or sleep-inducing

Fantastic cinema, whos idea was it to go and see that?

[RasTa]

that's a good policy (one place that is an exception to your rule is Fresh but it's damn expensive)

fishmongers are usually cheaper than the supermarket too, much fresher and better produce and are usually quite helpful in terms of advice. Same goes for butchers - but they're easier to find than fishmongers.

There's a really good one in the industrial estate in Coolock (of all places), they mainly supply restaurants but have a shop for the general public as well - Kish Fish, would be well worth a trip if you're cooking a big meal or something. Another good one in Fairview whose name I forget but their motto is 'if it swims, we have it' . Also, plenty in Howth obviously.

Yeah Wrights is where I get my Tuna steaks, There is also lovely butchers in Marino to boot. I'd be out there once a week, Howth is to far and I might give that place in Coolock a spin.

http://www.wrightsofmarino.com/

[Raoul Duke III]

Fantastic cinema, whos idea was it to go and see that?

never been to it before, my friend works for a foundation that is dedicated to marine conservation so I'm supporting him

[Moneymaker]

Everton 25/1 to finish 4th. Well worth a punt imo. Spurs are 7 points ahead with a game in hand but Everton are by far the most in-form team of all the teams chasing 4th.

[jackthree]

off to galway for the weekend tomara anyone recomend any good spots to hit? will it be dead on a friday nite?

[Strewelpeter]

While in no way condoning or criticising any specific An Bord Pleanala decisions, I think that it's important that they're not lenient purely on the basis of the current and likely temporary economic situation. Just because somebody wants to build something somewhere, doesn't mean it should automatically be approved and the applicant given a standing ovation. A lot of developments are unsustainable, an eyesore or not fitting with an areas development plan. We can't expect An Bord to ignore these factors and approve left, right and centre just because we're currently stuck in a rut. It's also worth noting that in 5 years time, when we're out of this mess, An Bord will be the first to come under fire for allowing the eyesore/vacant/monstrosity to be built.

If they approved every single thing that anyone wanted to build now they couldn't do much worse than they have in the last 10 years.

I don't think I would be able to frame this in anyway that could be safe to publish even here but during Cheltenham I became involved in a conversation / negotiation between some people famous from the planning tribunal that strikes right at the heart of the matter. It was so surreal and unbelievable that if you do ask me in private to tell the story you'll find it hard to believe me.

[Mike]

off to galway for the weekend tomara anyone recomend any good spots to hit? will it be dead on a friday nite?

what sort of weekend? getaway or on the piss?

[careca]

Everton 25/1 to finish 4th. Well worth a punt imo. Spurs are 7 points ahead with a game in hand but Everton are by far the most in-form team of all the teams chasing 4th.

I was just looking at this market this morning. What do you think of Liverpool at 7/2 with Boyles?

I am a pool supporter and maybe I have my head in the clouds but they seem to have a fairly (on paper) easy run in with the exception of the Chelsea game and thats at Anfield.

I didn't expect them to be as high as 7/2, even allowing for their form this season.

[jackthree]

sorri forgot to state serious piss up

[6starpool]

Everton need to win all 7 remaining games to have a realistic chance of coming 4th I think. Liverpool need to get at least 17 points from their last 7 to have a chance. I think Villa are doing their usual wilting act, although they might turn it around. It is Spurs or Cities to lose now really, but the way City have been hot and cold lately, and with Spurs having Arsenal, Utd and Chelsea in successive games soon who knows.

[Kayroo]

Ugh, I got munched by those pesky Werewolves last night. At least I'll be more productive rather than spending ages considering who might be a wolf.

I had a list made up too

[tylerdurden94]

never been to it before, my friend works for a foundation that is dedicated to marine conservation so I'm supporting him

Ah i see how philanthropic of you (if your parting with cash) really nice cinema should really make an effort to go back more often.

So see you in the SE around 11ish?

off to galway for the weekend tomara anyone recomend any good spots to hit? will it be dead on a friday nite?

Shouldnt be dead lively spot, i asked a mate the same question about where to go and ended up avoiding nearly everyone and going to all these little dive bars still had a quality time, one thing i did find strange you have all these club promoters all over the place trying to drag you to this bar and that bar for me reminded of those uncovered holiday shows on Sky One a few years back.

[RasTa]

Everton 25/1 to finish 4th. Well worth a punt imo. Spurs are 7 points ahead with a game in hand but Everton are by far the most in-form team of all the teams chasing 4th.

What? Spurs are playing pretty well atm....

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[Raoul Duke III]

Cheers for the link. In fairness, all he did really was point out some historical atrocities and then the three big elephants in the living room - no female priests, celibacy, no contraceptives.

surely the biggest elephant of all atm is paedophile priests?

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[Raoul Duke III]

I don't think so really. I can't imagine that pedophilia is actually endemic in the church.

where have you been for the last decade?

[Kayroo]

Cheers for the link. In fairness, all he did really was point out some historical atrocities and then the three big elephants in the living room - no female priests, celibacy, no contraceptives.

He also referred to Galileo being tortured by the Catholic Church which isn't correct. He was even allowed to stay in his friend's palace while the inquisition was ongoing, and the inquisition itself was just questioning and not physical.

I don't think this was the thrust of his argument at all. I think his essential point was that, throughout history, the Catholic Church has been a constant drag on the development of mankind. By clouding us in superstition and fear, by constantly slowing the progress of the sciences and by instigated the largest Jihads ever undertaken the Catholic Church has been divisive, destructive and ultimately a force of incredible evil in the world.

He does overlook that the Church more or less held Europe together after the decline of the Roman Empire (note: way to spot a real historian, they never say "fall" of the Roman Empire) and acted as a coordinating force within Europe for centuries.

It's by no means an excuse, and on an individual level they have inspired many great people to unimaginable feats of bravery and generosity, but as a collective I think his point, that they are a retarding force upon humanity, is true.

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[Raoul Duke III]

PM?! (if you have the inclination)

+2 or else I will buy you a pint next time I see you

[Zuroph]

Friend of mine sent me this. Worth the watch.

Stephen Fry debating on the motion that the Catholic Church is a force for good in the world.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbvr0m_shortfilms

Fantastic watch, many thanks.

[Raoul Duke III]

Kayroo; question for you

in your opinion, is there any legal scope for the CPSU\passport office workers to be sued by members of the public for denying them their constitutional right to free travel?

have heard this mentioned in a few places but by non-legal folk, curious to hear your thoughts

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[Moneymaker]

What? Spurs are playing pretty well atm....

Didn't say they weren't. I said Everton are the form side and Spurs have a very tough run-in.

7/2 is a pretty good price on Liverpool imo.

[ArmaniJeans]

Accept <-> Reject.
Acceptance - ??????

Any word fit the above, is rejectance a word?

[RasTa]

Didn't say they weren't. I said Everton are the form side and Spurs have a very tough run-in.

7/2 is a pretty good price on Liverpool imo.

Yeah but I would disagree, Spurs are in the best form out of the lot including a 2-1 victory over Everton in the last 5 games.

[Raoul Duke III]

Accept <-> Reject.
Acceptance - ??????

Any word fit the above, is rejectance a word?

rejection

[ArmaniJeans]

rejection

Cheers - I had a total mental block there.

[jackthree]

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nearly the weekend

[Hectorjelly]

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[Kayroo]

Kayroo; question for you

in your opinion, is there any legal scope for the CPSU\passport office workers to be sued by members of the public for denying them their constitutional right to free travel?

have heard this mentioned in a few places but by non-legal folk, curious to hear your thoughts

It's an interesting question.

Your passport is technically not your property and the Government are under no obligation to issue you with one. The right to travel is one which would, necessarily, be one that is subject to great limitation. The right to travel outside the jurisdiction even more so.

There may be a better case on a European level that the denial of a passport effectively bars the free movement of workers but EU rights are not horizontally effective normally (not sure about whether free movement is horizontally effective) meaning it gives you no cause of action against another natural person, only against the Government or a higher agency or EU institution (i.e vertically effective) and I cannot see the ECJ intervening in a trade dispute to force the Govt's hand.

Also, trade disputes are given specific statutory protection. That said there are cases, such as a limited teacher's strike in Cork a few years ago, where trade disputes have given rise to causes of action where their effect is to give rise to a denial of a constitutional right.

Having asked around here (I am in the Library) the general consensus seems to be that there would be a cause of action as the strike effectively is an abuse of rights by the Union.

That said this is NOT A LEGAL OPINION and is just my initial thoughts on the matter.

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[dannydiamond]

Eh Danny, I think you would be bright enough to know that I'm far from being a chest thumping Celtic drooler.

The point of my post is the rarity with which an Old Firm side has been so badly beaten by a non Old Firm side during my time as a football fan.

If Real Madrid lost 4 - 0 to Athletico Bilbao I'd post about it here too.

Ah yeah, I know.

[Jackyback]

Anyone on here ever stay in The Killashee House....yay nor nay?

edit: Best option from this or The Glenview Hotel in Wicklow

[jackthree]

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LMAO

[dangerousdavid]

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