Bad beat/Moan/Venting Thread - BBV Archive 1

[RasTa]

Chelsea ain't got no history...

[careca]

All I'm saying is if he were to go to Utd or even Real (know he won't to either) in 3 years time, he will say "I'm at the best club in the world, etc, etc".

[Lord Sir Banter]

Liverpool to finish ahead of Chelsea.

[ArmaniJeans]

Eh,United are not a level ahead of us. The Barca team that will go down in history got ridic lucky to even make the CL final, robbing us.

Chelsea are one of the elite clubs. Literally a top, top club.

[RasTa]

is this some place in israel?

Probably according to Kenny Powers

[Emmet]

CHD how can you be drunk posting this early?

[Solskjaer]

People should just sit back and enjoy the footballing porn Barca produce week-in, week-out.

Love them or hate them, their current team is the best footballing side of all time, and in the future those who were too bitter or concerned with 'justice' to appreciate it will regret it.

Dja know, you are 100% spot on there, when I look forward to the weekend footie I think of Barca. I really hope to get to see them play as it's the greatest soccer I've ever seen on a consistant basis . The speed, skill, tenacity, of the team are astounding at times. With Messi in the team it's like the Harlem Globerotters , pure entertainment, often making top class opponents look foolish. Perfect Sunday for me, hangover, Golf punting, Barca and a few pints o plain. I'm a United fan but this season quite often they've been abysmal to watch. A team that plays Gibson, a floundering Fletcher , Evans, O'Shea etc. really aren't in the entertainment business. Midfield will need sorting this summer. The 5 point lead is good to have though, awarded by the ineptitude of the rest. Chelski had to move, Ab either had to spend or jump ship, looks like he settled on the former. Torres is a scary signing I'm afraid. Only him and Fabregas would get into that Barca team when playing well. Rooney and Berba be more suited to Madrid.

God help Arsenal in the CL next week. Should be good to watch anyway.

*IMO of course*

[CHDad]

Everyone loves Sid Lowe and thinks he is a genius, he agrees.

Liverpool to finish ahead of Chelsea.

Bet?

All I'm saying is if he were to go to Utd or even Real (know he won't to either) in 3 years time, he will say "I'm at the best club in the world, etc, etc".

Cool, they aren't above Chelsea though at the moment. All 3 sides are capable of winning every trophy they compete for.

Chelsea ain't got no history...

Honours

Domestic
First Division/Premier League[70]
Winners: 1954–55, 2004–05, 2005–06, 2009–10
Runners-up: 2003–04, 2006–07, 2007–08
Second Division[70]
Winners: 1983–84, 1988–89
Runners-up: 1906–07, 1911–12, 1929–30, 1962–63, 1976–77
FA Cup
Winners: 1969–70, 1996–97, 1999–00, 2006–07, 2008–09, 2009–10
Runners-up: 1914–15, 1966–67, 1993–94, 2001–02
Football League Cup
Winners: 1964–65, 1997–98, 2004–05, 2006–07
Runners-up: 1971–72, 2007–08
FA Charity Shield/FA Community Shield[71]
Winners: 1955, 2000, 2005, 2009
Runners-up: 1970, 1997, 2006, 2007, 2010
Full Members Cup
Winners: 1985–86, 1989–90
European
UEFA Champions League
Runners-up: 2007–08
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup
Winners: 1970–71, 1997–98
UEFA Super Cup
Winners: 1998

CHD how can you be drunk posting this early?

If I was drunk I would be calling you cunts and posting vids instead of proving them wrong. I haven't drank in ages, might tonight, you can try wind me up then.

[Raoul Duke III]

Debatable tbh.

This season it is shaping up that way but you can't think like that. If that is still the case in 3 years then Barca are a level above.

um, that's because Barca are a level above

by any metric you wish to choose

Are you saying that Chelsea are the equals of Barca?
results and trophies suggest otherwise

[Loopz]

Don't get me wrong, Chelsea are a very decent side but lol at the bolded bit. You telling me if he moved to Barca in 3 years time or god forbid Utd he wouldn't change his tune.

don't spoil my fun
growing up in a house full of loliverpool fans its great to see someone who they all idolized this time last week vindicate my choice of football club all those years ago

[Keane]

Dja know, you are 100% spot on there, when I look forward to the weekend footie I think of Barca. I really hope to get to see them play as it's the greatest soccer I've ever seen on a consistant basis . The speed, skill, tenacity, of the team are astounding at times. With Messi in the team it's like the Harlem Globerotters , pure entertainment, often making top class opponents look foolish. Perfect Sunday for me, hangover, Golf punting, Barca and a few pints o plain. I'm a United fan but this season quite often they've been abysmal to watch. A team that plays Gibson, a floundering Fletcher , Evans, O'Shea etc. really aren't in the entertainment business. Midfield will need sorting this summer. The 5 point lead is good to have though, awarded by the ineptitude of the rest. Chelski had to move, Ab either had to spend or jump ship, looks like he settled on the former. Torres is a scary signing I'm afraid. Only him and Fabregas would get into that Barca team when playing well. Rooney and Berba be more suited to Madrid.

God help Arsenal in the CL next week. Should be good to watch anyway.

*IMO of course*

Spot on, top top post imo.

[CHDad]

um, that's because Barca are a level above

by any metric you wish to choose

Are you saying that Chelsea are the equals of Barca?
results and trophies suggest otherwise

At the moment you can go to Barca and be in for every trophy you compete for.

If you go to Chelsea you will go deep in every competition aswell.

They are a better side at the moment but not a level above, both sides can compete for everything.

IF Madrid get it right net year and win La Liga and Barca win nothing, Chelsea win the league... does that make Chelsea a level above? No but by your logic it would.

Barca are a better side in nearly every way but Chelsea and United could beat them and win their domestic titles and the CL, so imo they are on the same level.

[RichieM]

Enjoy your one season in the sun - it might have lasted longer had such a well run club bothered to properly address the weaknesses in the squad when given the opportunity.

Nice to see that Spurs achievments last year are not counted. I cant see them droping down to much in the season. It will be tight as to if they can get a top 4 place but I think still in with a good shout as City are likley to implode at any stage as the egos get going. Tevez will be super pissed off that Chelsea wouldn't look at him and now Carrol is worth 35million and he cant move. 100-1 to win the league is probably as good odds as we deserve but I can see us going a bit further in the champions league (not winning it as im not mental) Liverpool have more serious problems than strickers left to fix

[RasTa]

Honours

Domestic
First Division/Premier League[70]
Winners: 1954–55, 2004–05, 2005–06, 2009–10

lol why are you posting runner up stats? Just real ones please.

[Raoul Duke III]

Barca are a better side in nearly every way but Chelsea and United could beat them and win their domestic titles and the CL, so imo they are on the same level.

Barca could win the CL and have done so twice in the last decade

United could win the CL and have done so once in the last decade

Chelsea have never won the CL (and are miles behind domestically this year)

you're right

I should have put Chelsea down a level

[CHDad]

lol why are you posting runner up stats? Just real ones please.

Lazy copy and paste job,but as you can see Chelsea have history. Not as good a history of buying things like United but we can catch up.

[Lord Sir Banter]

The history talk does nothing for me.
So what if some clubs have won more competitions than others, most of us weren't alive and supporting our chosen clubs since 1896 anyhow.

Bet?

odds?
You have a 9 point lead and one game in hand.

[tylerdurden94]

I'd say you've seen loads, just don't know its him. He was the writer (and often director too) of the likes of National Lampoon's European Vacation, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Weird Science, The Breakfast Club, Planes, Trains and Automobiles; Uncle Buck, Home Alone and the breakfast club



meh, still would in a heartbeat tbh

Been awhile since ive seen a few of them thou.

Flights to Jew-York booked

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt1ZNcmSeTo[/ame]

[CHDad]

Barca could win the CL and have done so twice in the last decade

United could win the CL and have done so once in the last decade

Chelsea have never won the CL (and are miles behind domestically this year)

you're right

I should have put Chelsea down a level

We will agree to disagree. You're entitled to your opinion as am I.

[tylerdurden94]

Anybody know were I can pick up some double sided sticky tape in town?

[CHDad]

The history talk does nothing for me.
So what if some clubs have won more competitions than others, most of us weren't alive and supporting our chosen clubs since 1896 anyhow.



odds?
You have a 9 point lead and one game in hand.

100/1

[Raoul Duke III]

We will agree to disagree. You're entitled to your opinion as am I.

jesus

who hacked your account?

[CHDad]

jesus

who hacked your account?

I don't drink anymore.

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[Lord Sir Banter]

100/1

?

[Emmet]

I don't drink anymore.

Its the 1st of Feb, so I'm allowed again..

How long you been dry?

[RasTa]

Lazy copy and paste job,but as you can see Chelsea have history. Not as good a history of buying things like United but we can catch up.

Giggs, Scholes, Beckham, Neville's and Butt would disagree but you never win anything with Kids Mr Abramovic eh?

League
1907–08, 1910–11, 1951–52, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1964–65, 1966–67

FA Cup:
1908–09, 1947–48, 1962–63, 1976–77, 1982–83, 1984–85, 1989–90

That's history baby.

[Angry-Ball]

I don't drink anymore.

or any less by the sounds of things

[CHDad]

You planning to stay off it for good?

God no, didn't plan to stop just haven't bothered. I am only a weekend alco.

?

*extends arm to shake hands*

Its the 1st of Feb, so I'm allowed again..

How long you been dry?

Think last time I went out was United -v- Lpool so less than 3 weeks. Will not be 4 weeks

[CHDad]

Giggs, Scholes, Beckham, Neville's and Butt would disagree but you never win anything with Kids Mr Abramovic eh?

We will see in the near future if we can copy.

League
1907–08, 1910–11, 1951–52, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1964–65, 1966–67

FA Cup:
1908–09, 1947–48, 1962–63, 1976–77, 1982–83, 1984–85, 1989–90

That's history baby

That is better history, yes.

[carlop]

At the moment you can go to Barca and be in for every trophy you compete for.

If you go to Chelsea you will go deep in every competition aswell.

They are a better side at the moment but not a level above, both sides can compete for everything.

IF Madrid get it right net year and win La Liga and Barca win nothing, Chelsea win the league... does that make Chelsea a level above? No but by your logic it would.

Barca are a better side in nearly every way but Chelsea and United could beat them and win their domestic titles and the CL, so imo they are on the same level.

As a United fan it depresses me to say we would be massive dogs over two legs to Barca, our central midfield is far too weak. Chelsea would have a chance because they have Essien who is an absolute beast, but I still think the far more likely scenario is JT landing on his ass as Messi and co. waltz around him.

Over a season there is no chance either team would compete at the moment. I don't actually think Barca's front 6 could be improved. Ronaldo is obviously better than Pedro but he wouldn't have the same understanding with his teammates.

Cesc would be a sub until Xavi retires/goes into decline.

Their only weakness is a lack of squad depth. If two of Xavi, Iniesta and Messi were injured they'd have a problem. Depressingly though, they have yet another generation of freakishly talented youngsters coming through the ranks.

[Lord Sir Banter]

God no, didn't plan to stop just haven't bothered. I am only a weekend alco.

*extends arm to shake hands*


Think last time I went out was United -v- Lpool so less than 3 weeks. Will not be 4 weeks

/shakes hands.

I see Flushdraw is famous now...

[ArmaniJeans]

Bit of a feud between the old and new wings of FF maybe?

Councillor Mary Fitzpatrick, arch enemy of Bertie and the Drumcondra Mafia elected to the front bench by Michael Martin as Housing spokesperson despite not being a TD (standing in this election though).

Meanwhile Bertie acolyte Cyprian Brady had his crew out first thing this morning sticking up his posters in Fitzpatricks heartland of Cabra.

(I'm probably reading too much into it.)

[max_power]

As a United fan it depresses me to say we would be massive dogs over two legs to Barca, our central midfield is far too weak. Chelsea would have a chance because they have Essien who is an absolute beast, but I still think the far more likely scenario is JT landing on his ass as Messi and co. waltz around him.

Over a season there is no chance either team would compete at the moment. I don't actually think Barca's front 6 could be improved. Ronaldo is obviously better than Pedro but he wouldn't have the same understanding with his teammates.

Cesc would be a sub until Xavi retires/goes into decline.

Their only weakness is a lack of squad depth. If two of Xavi, Iniesta and Messi were injured they'd have a problem. Depressingly though, they have yet another generation of freakishly talented youngsters coming through the ranks.

Way to blank me earlier.

[Raoul Duke III]

Bit of a feud between the old and new wings of FF maybe?

Councillor Mary Fitzpatrick, arch enemy of Bertie and the Drumcondra Mafia elected to the front bench by Michael Martin as Housing spokesperson despite not being a TD.

Meanwhile Bertie acolyte Cyprian Brady had his crew out first thing this morning sticking up his posters in Fitzpatricks heartland of Cabra.

(I'm probably reading too much into it.)

no, no they HATE each other

neither will get in anyway. Nice kick in the nuts for Bertie

[CHDad]

As a United fan it depresses me to say we would be massive dogs over two legs to Barca, our central midfield is far too weak. Chelsea would have a chance because they have Essien who is an absolute beast, but I still think the far more likely scenario is JT landing on his ass as Messi and co. waltz around him.

Over a season there is no chance either team would compete at the moment. I don't actually think Barca's front 6 could be improved. Ronaldo is obviously better than Pedro but he wouldn't have the same understanding with his teammates.

Cesc would be a sub until Xavi retires/goes into decline.

Their only weakness is a lack of squad depth. If two of Xavi, Iniesta and Messi were injured they'd have a problem. Depressingly though, they have yet another generation of freakishly talented youngsters coming through the ranks.

I can't see Barca keeping this level though and Chelsea will improve, United should too.

Don't mind Messi, we are well equipped to deal with him. He has been in A.Cole's pocket twice and Bosingwa's (playing out of position) once. People won't agree with me but Chelsea on form are the best side around to take on Barca, we have let them off the hook so many times over the years too. They have only owned us once in last ten years.

They would beat us this season but things will be different next year.

[Emmet]

Chelsea are on terrible form CHD?
They've gotten one result from their last how many games?

[ArmaniJeans]

no, no they HATE each other

neither will get in anyway. Nice kick in the nuts for Bertie

She's actually very electable in the fourth seat if you look at the figures.
3 shoe-ins in that constituency and an almighty battle for the 4th seat.
It would need FF to abandon Cyprian and put their weight behind her though.

[Raoul Duke III]

AJ, you might be interested in this
he does have a Labour bias but he's predicting both Lenihans to lose their seats and FF to get, eh, zero seats in Dublin

'let it be, let it be'....

[DeadParrot]

take anything I say with a fistful of salt, I also included a Harry Potter reference

no anti Potterism too

[Raoul Duke III]

She's actually very electable in the fourth seat if you look at the figures.
3 shoe-ins in that constituency and an almighty battle for the 4th seat.
It would need FF to abandon Cyprian and put their weight behind her though.

here's yer man's take on it, he gives FF no chance

Dublin C (4 seats)
2007 result
FF 44.5% 2 seats – Bertie Ahern, Cyprian Brady
FG 9.5%
LP 12.6% 1 seat – Joe Costello
GP 5.8%
SF 9.2%
OTH 18.5% 1 seat Tony Gregory

Local developments:
Bertie Ahern is no longer Taoiseach and not expected to run. Tony Gregory died, and Maureen O’Sullivan won the by-election by a comfortable margin. FF at war.

Likely candidates:
FF Brady, Mary FitzPatrick
FG Paschal Donoghue
LP Costello, Aine Clancy
SF Mary-Lou McDonald
OTH Maureen O’Sullivan, Cieran Perry, Christy Burke

Projection based on poll
FF 5.7%
FG 15.1% 1 seat
LP 33.5% 1 seats
GP 1.3%
SF 13.2%
OTH 31.2% 2 seats

FF collapse, and while it’s possible that they could out-perform this if FitzPatrick plays the maverick card, it’s hard to see them do so to the extent that they hold a seat. On these figures, Donoghue’s dream finally comes true. The other FF seat is taken by and Indo (possibly Perry who haas a very strong base in Cabra and comes from the same republican/left gene poll that MLMcD is hoping will vote SF. Clancy misses out by a very small margin, largely as a result of poor vote management (I’m anticipating she gets no more than 33% of LP vote, but needs closer to 38% or so).

[CHDad]

Chelsea are on terrible form CHD?
They've gotten one result from their last how many games?

Last 5 in league is L W D L W W

Drew against Everton away in cup, not worst result ever. Tonight will show if we are getting back to winning ways.

Just made 2 cracking signings, possible switch to 4-4-2 now which will finally create rotation and competition which is exactly what we need.

[DeadParrot]

Its all become so real....

I'm pathetic, but I insta sold him this morning.
and bought RvP

[max_power]

Kinda funny that half the posters are talking about football/transfers and the other half are going on about the old politics, I'm still hoping for more support for the abuse of Kesha.

[CHDad]

Kinda funny that half the posters are talking about football/transfers and the other half are going on about the old politics, I'm still hoping for more support for the abuse of Kesha.

She is a manufactured piece of crap.

[ArmaniJeans]

here's yer man's take on it, he gives FF no chance

Interestingly PaddyPower don't even have the Perry guy quoted, and have the 4th seat as a straight battle between Fitzpatrick and MaryLou with the 2nd Labour candidate a competive outsider.

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/other-politics/irish-government?ev_oc_grp_ids=398451

[ghostface]

Can Torres play tonight/expected to play tonight? May have to rejig the FF team

[DeadParrot]

CHD how can you be drunk posting this early?

[CHDad]

Can Torres play tonight/expected to play tonight? May have to rejig the FF team

Not playing. Very unlikely we play him against Liverpool next weekend aswell. To much to lose.

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[ArmaniJeans]

AJ, you might be interested in this
he does have a Labour bias but he's predicting both Lenihans to lose their seats and FF to get, eh, zero seats in Dublin

'let it be, let it be'....

He's way off in Dublin West, he's predicting near enough 70% for Labour, Comrade Joe and Sinn Fein between them. Thats just not going to happen imo.
He must only have done his polling in Corduff and Huntstown or something, and left out the leafy areas.

[Raoul Duke III]

Not really politically healthy to want FF to be fully wiped out in Dublin. You'd end up FG and Lab in power and no serious opposition representation of Dublin apart from the looney left. Give FF a battering all right, but you need some form of centrist opposition to ensure a bit of debate.

it's entirely healthy

they've forfeited their right to be taken seriously. The Monster Raving Loonies have more credibility.

[RasTa]

He's way off in Dublin West, he's predicting near enough 70% for Labour, Comrade Joe and Sinn Fein between them. Thats just not going to happen imo.
He must only have done his polling in Corduff and Huntstown or something, and left out the leafy areas.

I'm still unsure if I should give Uncle Joe number 1. I'm only putting two names down and looks like Leo will have to get the other. Suppose it makes no difference anyway

[Raoul Duke III]

He's way off in Dublin West, he's predicting near enough 70% for Labour, Comrade Joe and Sinn Fein between them. Thats just not going to happen imo.
He must only have done his polling in Corduff and Huntstown or something, and left out the leafy areas.

I see he also forecasts:

• FF to lose out entirely in DLR and Boyd-Barrett to make it
• SP to have 3 seats
• Greens to have 0 seats
• Labour to have 50 - this is good news for our bet, I'll let you out for 40!
• Coughlan to lose her seat

[Zod]

She's actually very electable in the fourth seat if you look at the figures.
3 shoe-ins in that constituency and an almighty battle for the 4th seat.
It would need FF to abandon Cyprian and put their weight behind her though.

votail Ceiran Perry.

[Raoul Duke III]

I'm still unsure if I should give Uncle Joe number 1. I'm only putting two names down and looks like Leo will have to get the other. Suspose it makes no difference anyway

you're really spanning the political spectrum there RasTa

your classic 'left-right floating voter'

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[Emmet]

Obertan wants out?

Gabriel Obertan has stunned Manchester United by handing in a transfer request.
Obertan, a £3million signing from Bordeaux 18 months ago, is said to doubt whether he can make the grade at Old Trafford.
The France Under 21 winger wants to return home in the summer halfway through his four-year contract.

Obertan, 21, has made 14 appearances for Sir Alex Ferguson's side this season, scoring his first competitive goal in the Champions League tie away to Bursaspor in November.
But after playing in the 4-0 Carling Cup defeat at West Ham later that month, he was substituted at West Bromwich on New Year's Day and again struggled to impress in Saturday's FA Cup win at Southampton.
United have allowed midfielder Cameron Stewart to turn his loan to Hull into a permanent deal, but blocked a similar move for Corry Evans who is also on loan at the KC Stadium.
United's FA Cup opponents Crawley Town made a deadline-day signing of their own. They captured 26-year-old goalscoring midfielder Willie Gibson from Dunfermline for an undisclosed fee.

[ArmaniJeans]

I'm still unsure if I should give Uncle Joe number 1. I'm only putting two names down and looks like Leo will have to get the other. Suspose it makes no difference anyway

You should really vote all the way down as far as you can until you get to the ones you just can't stomach - in theory your vote could be used to elect 4 candidates and failure to vote down could mean that the candidate you were m'eh about is overtaken by other peoples votes for the one you hated.

Its not unusual for there to be less than 50 multiple transferred votes in it for the final seat.