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I wouldn't like to say I told you so but ...
Coma patient who could communicate can't when the 'magic' investigator is out of the room. Is there no bottom to the gullibility and stupidity of media people?Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by pgodkin View PostHe may have posted it already well done to nicnicnic, who cashed in the warm up!
Originally posted by cokedrinker View PostWinner of sunday million takes 1.14m - NO deal made!
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Originally posted by max_power View PostThink I saw Mumford and Sons recommended in here, can't stop listening to the album. One of the best I've heard in a while.
for their gig in the academy next month. Should be amazing.
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Originally posted by nicnicnic View PostStats don't really sit right with recent games played, I'd guess someone taking over someone else's account recently.
It's always been said everyone can be lucky enough to win a tournament.
I've never played the million, is it "possible" to be lucky enough to win one ??
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Originally posted by nicnicnic View PostStats don't really sit right with recent games played, I'd guess someone taking over someone else's account recently.'Mental Toughness is doing the right thing for the team when it's not the best thing for you' - Bill Belichick
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Sunday tribune article about PP and taxation
Did anyone read this, I'd be interested in hearing some enlightened opinions.
We are willing to pay more to Revenue, says Paddy Power
Ian Guider
Paddy Power: open to online taxPADDY Power is open to paying tax on internet betting by its Irish customers if it is levied on all bookmakers taking bets online in Ireland, its chief executive Patrick Kennedy has told the Sunday Tribune.
His comments came following remarks by Horse Racing Ireland (HRI) executives that the sport needed to become self financing. HRI chief executive Brian Ka*v*anagh said earlier this month that racing could generate extra income by taxing online and telephone betting to avoid the state subsidising racing.
Kennedy said raising the rate of tax will not fix the funding gap. He said only 15% of bets in its shops and 11% of online bets were on Irish racing. He estimated that only €6m a year could be raised from taxing bets on Irish racing and said no countries fund racing by taxing other sports.
The company would be prepared to pay tax on all online betting, but any change must be applied to its competitors and not just those based here.
Sports minister Martin Cullen said last week that the Revenue Commissioners and the Department of Finance are studying ways to tax offshore bookmakers.
The government last year abandoned plans to double betting tax to 2% because of fears that while larger bookmakers would absorb the tax, smaller chains would have to pass it on and could go out of business.
"The other side of the matter is how we will find a mechanism of taxing companies which are largely located offshore. That is the problem, namely, that they do not come within the Irish taxation system. It is hard to tax a company in another jurisdiction," Cullen said.
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Originally posted by danutpeddler View PostDid anyone read this, I'd be interested in hearing some enlightened opinions.
We are willing to pay more to Revenue, says Paddy Power
Ian Guider
Paddy Power: open to online taxPADDY Power is open to paying tax on internet betting by its Irish customers if it is levied on all bookmakers taking bets online in Ireland, its chief executive Patrick Kennedy has told the Sunday Tribune.
His comments came following remarks by Horse Racing Ireland (HRI) executives that the sport needed to become self financing. HRI chief executive Brian Ka*v*anagh said earlier this month that racing could generate extra income by taxing online and telephone betting to avoid the state subsidising racing.
Kennedy said raising the rate of tax will not fix the funding gap. He said only 15% of bets in its shops and 11% of online bets were on Irish racing. He estimated that only €6m a year could be raised from taxing bets on Irish racing and said no countries fund racing by taxing other sports.
The company would be prepared to pay tax on all online betting, but any change must be applied to its competitors and not just those based here.
Sports minister Martin Cullen said last week that the Revenue Commissioners and the Department of Finance are studying ways to tax offshore bookmakers.
The government last year abandoned plans to double betting tax to 2% because of fears that while larger bookmakers would absorb the tax, smaller chains would have to pass it on and could go out of business.
"The other side of the matter is how we will find a mechanism of taxing companies which are largely located offshore. That is the problem, namely, that they do not come within the Irish taxation system. It is hard to tax a company in another jurisdiction," Cullen said.
(seeing as they already pay CT here - or is their online business run from some other jurisdiction?)Last edited by Raoul Duke III; 22-02-10, 13:07."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by LuckyLloyd View PostIn certain parts of the world though, I'd plump for a UK one if I had the choice. Only because they have a much wider ranging foreign diplomacy network. If you did do something stupid / get involved in something stupid it would be a good thing if a British embassy was under obligation to provide you with assistance.
I have only seen him 2 times in the last 5 years, once of which was about a month ago. Lots of chat between mates who are going travelling SE Asia, OZ, NZ, USA etc... We were asking him about what happens when bad $hit goes down and all the rest.
To save a long story he said that Irish citizens were extremely privileged due to the fact if they get in trouble anywhere consular assistance is available it is a 24hr service. Not only that but unlike the UK service there is no upfront requirement to provide a credit/debit card to get help. Then it gets charged an "admin" fee before proceeding.
EDIT: seems there is a 24hr UK number you can ring http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-...ings-go-wrong/
His best advice was also to a few lads hitting Thailand at the moment to bring a couple of hundred $US dollars in case something sticky happens with the police as they are uber dodgey :P
So for me IRL>UK passport anyway.
Curious thing for me personally is I am 1/16th English on paper, great claim there I know but that side of the family were all mad sinners back in the day so go figure.Last edited by coillcam; 22-02-10, 13:12.
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Originally posted by coillcam View PostMy best mate's older brother works in the Japanese embassy. He's worked in various circumstances but basically he is on 24hr call to help out Irish citizens in trouble.
I have only seen him 2 times in the last 5 years, once of which was about a month ago. Lots of chat between mates who are going travelling SE Asia, OZ, NZ, USA etc... We were asking him about what happens when bad $hit goes down and all the rest.
To save a long story he said that Irish citizens were extremely privileged due to the fact if they get in trouble anywhere consular assistance is available it is a 24hr service. Not only that but unlike the UK service there is no upfront requirement to provide a credit/debit card to get help. Then it gets charged an "admin" fee before proceeding.
EDIT: seems there is a 24hr UK number you can ring http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-...ings-go-wrong/
His best advice was also to a few lads hitting Thailand at the moment to bring a couple of hundred $US dollars in case something sticky happens with the police as they are uber dodgey :P
So for me IRL>UK passport anyway.
Curious thing for me personally is I am 1/16th English on paper, great claim there I know but that side of the family were all mad sinners back in the day so go figure.
I really don't think it matters unless you happen to be kidnapped by militant Islamists - there was some mention in the paper at the w/e about a journo who was seized by insurgents during the battle of Falluja and, instead of removing his head with a rusty bread knife, they let him go with apologies once they discovered he had an Irish passport.
Actually the Uk Foreign Office undoubtedly has more resources on the ground worldwide than we do so I'd imagine it's preferable to have a UK passport if you're in some remote place. Don't underestimate all the Commonwealth linkages either."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by coillcam View PostMy best mate's older brother works in the Japanese embassy. He's worked in various circumstances but basically he is on 24hr call to help out Irish citizens in trouble.
I have only seen him 2 times in the last 5 years, once of which was about a month ago. Lots of chat between mates who are going travelling SE Asia, OZ, NZ, USA etc... We were asking him about what happens when bad $hit goes down and all the rest.
To save a long story he said that Irish citizens were extremely privileged due to the fact if they get in trouble anywhere consular assistance is available it is a 24hr service. Not only that but unlike the UK service there is no upfront requirement to provide a credit/debit card to get help. Then it gets charged an "admin" fee before proceeding.
EDIT: seems there is a 24hr UK number you can ring http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-...ings-go-wrong/
His best advice was also to a few lads hitting Thailand at the moment to bring a couple of hundred $US dollars in case something sticky happens with the police as they are uber dodgey :P
So for me IRL>UK passport anyway.
Curious thing for me personally is I am 1/16th English on paper, great claim there I know but that side of the family were all mad sinners back in the day so go figure.
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Can't believe that immature idiot was allowed access to this forum.
He has nothing positive to offer us nor never will. We've heard all that bullshit before about turning a corner and 'growing up'. It would be nice if when the moron's banned he fucks off for good this time.
But we all know he won't, he'll set up hundreds of moron accounts to make a further tool out of himself (if possible), so I have a suggestion.
Everyone stick the fuckwit on ignore, that way he'll happily post his nonsense to himself while the rest of us forgets he exists.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Postsurely they're talking about a betting levy rather than 'tax'?
(seeing as they already pay CT here - or is their online business run from some other jurisdiction?)
It's basically my understanding that the horse racing industry are looking for a piece of the pie from profitable betting sites, betfair PP etc.
Do you think that these sites owe the industry?
If so do you not think that they should negotiate a levy, or am I living in lala land?
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Originally posted by Gimmeabreakbasically PK is saying ye we will pay tax if you tax our competitors also. i.e. They are proposing that they tax PP on the online & phone bets but they dont legislate for say Ladbrokes and William Hill who also take bets in this jurisdiction.
the underlying threat from PK to the govt seems to be that if they dont tax Laddies and Will Hill etc, then PP are at a competitive disadvantage and will just pack bags and move jobs to Malta or whereever.
I like the way PK has handled it.
You know much about giving back to the horse racing industry debate Noel?
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Originally posted by Gimmeabreakbasically PK is saying ye we will pay tax if you tax our competitors also. i.e. They are proposing that they tax PP on the online & phone bets but they dont legislate for say Ladbrokes and William Hill who also take bets in this jurisdiction.
the underlying threat from PK to the govt seems to be that if they dont tax Laddies and Will Hill etc, then PP are at a competitive disadvantage and will just pack bags and move jobs to Malta or whereever.
you're basically asking all websites (whether based in Ireland or not) that take bets to disclose all details of bets struck by Irish customers. I'm no IT expert but this sounds like a nightmare and very open to abuse."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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...Last edited by Hitchhiker's Guide To...; 22-02-10, 13:33."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide to... View PostAs a side-point; if those small bookies can't handle absorbing an extra 1% in betting tax then hard to justify them remaining in business in the first place!"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Gimmeabreakwhy? do you know some TD's who are looking for a crash course before a Dail debate
tbh - I think both are pretty much intertwangled with different voices shouting different things.boombubble times but now that the money has disappeared they're fecked"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Postshock, horror; guy working for Dept. of Foreign Affairs pimps their customer service!
I really don't think it matters unless you happen to be kidnapped by militant Islamists - there was some mention in the paper at the w/e about a journo who was seized by insurgents during the battle of Falluja and, instead of removing his head with a rusty bread knife, they let him go with apologies once they discovered he had an Irish passport.
Actually the Uk Foreign Office undoubtedly has more resources on the ground worldwide than we do so I'd imagine it's preferable to have a UK passport if you're in some remote place. Don't underestimate all the Commonwealth linkages either.
He did say that when I was in Colombia that I was screwed for a while, if anything happened as the official consulate was oh just a few kilometres away in Mexico. He is obviously going to pimp himself but he wouldn't go into anything case wise from what he has/has not done. Very generalized diplomatic responses though from him.
As for resources for a country with a population of 15+ times that of Ireland it will undoubtedly have a better spread.
Originally posted by max_power View Postlol. Not in Thailand. Consulate open crazy hours, like 8-11am. Closed Sundays and public holidays, so if you get in trouble on the Saturday of a Bank holiday your fucked till Tuesday. "Emergency Phone Line" goes to Singapore if I remember correctly and is just an answering machine.
Swings and roundabouts so?
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostActually the Uk Foreign Office undoubtedly has more resources on the ground worldwide than we do so I'd imagine it's preferable to have a UK passport if you're in some remote place. Don't underestimate all the Commonwealth linkages either.
Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide to... View PostThought the general rule was that if you are Irish the UK embassy would sort you out if the Irish one couldn't help because of some long-standing tradition, or did i just randomly dream that up?
mehh, it'll all be EU embassies soon so we'll be fine!
As to which Passport I'd prefer, I'm Irish so I want an Irish passport??
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Originally posted by coillcam View PostYeah that is true from what I remember. IIRC not the guy in question Roy Carroll http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4362378.stm but he was released. I was just reading up on Ken Bigley and Margaret Hassan a moment ago, shocking stuff."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by max_power View PostMy trouble was being passportless, visaless, flightless and moneyless (not through my own doing), not the usual caught with a bag of pills stuff.
More the former stuff or something similar to it, not being caught committing a crime.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide to... View PostAs a side-point; if those small bookies can't handle absorbing an extra 1% in betting tax then hard to justify them remaining in business in the first place! A small bookie should just view themselves as a sales outlet for betfair / betdaq and nothing more than that. Fire the odds compilers, automate the whole process, but still give the illusion of being a traditional bookmakers.
There are some some real horror stories out there of what is currently happening with independents who are struggling to survive.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Ste05 View PostI must be either getting old or am just too straight laced but this is not what I was considering as the usual stuff I might need a consulate for.
More the former stuff or something similar to it, not being caught committing a crime.
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Originally posted by Ste05 View PostI must be either getting old or am just too straight laced but this is not what I was considering as the usual stuff I might need a consulate for.
More the former stuff or something similar to it, not being caught committing a crime."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by bubbleking View Postjust tried rush poker there for the 1st time - wow that sh!t is addictive!!!!
Im trying to work out optimal strategy - so far rising any 2 preflop in decent position and 3 betting relentlessly is working out well - any thoughts?
edit - im playing 10nl so just folding to any resistance
Rush is allowing idiots understand position better, and we see BTN's stealing far more than in regular 6max.
TPTK will pay off a lot of hands on the flop, so calling with SC's and small PP's even OOP is working well for me.
I have noticed that I've been getting my entire stack in a lot more often than regular 6max poker, not certain why though.
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Originally posted by danutpeddler View PostDid anyone read this, I'd be interested in hearing some enlightened opinions.
"The other side of the matter is how we will find a mechanism of taxing companies which are largely located offshore. That is the problem, namely, that they do not come within the Irish taxation system. It is hard to tax a company in another jurisdiction," Cullen said.
IMO it's not unreasonable for him/government to be looking at ways to tax/levy the online gambling industry which has a massive turnover. Everything else is taxed so why not gambling.
Obviously some of the companies feel the same & are willing to do so provided they are not at a disadvantage to other similar companies. Therein lies the problem.
The sooner legislation is settled in the EU for online gambling/poker sites the better before our government go & do something like banning say poker sites. This will not happen to the horse industry which is too important to the economy.
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I remember our passports being taken off us in Spain after one hell of an 'upper' fuelled week. We were threatened with having to pay something in the region of €30K to get them back due an incident involving a cabinet ministers son. Said cabinet minister had to fly out to sort.
It was a shite end to what was a brilliant holiday mind
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Originally posted by bubbleking View Postjust tried rush poker there for the 1st time - wow that sh!t is addictive!!!!
Im trying to work out optimal strategy - so far rising any 2 preflop in decent position and 3 betting relentlessly is working out well - any thoughts?
edit - im playing 10nl so just folding to any resistance
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Originally posted by emmet02 View Postyup, works well. Slow playing small PPs in EP is excellent too. Open limping 22-55 in EP will get your set paid off a lot. Seems like almost 70% of hands are played as CO vs BB or BTN vs BB.
Rush is allowing idiots understand position better, and we see BTN's stealing far more than in regular 6max.
TPTK will pay off a lot of hands on the flop, so calling with SC's and small PP's even OOP is working well for me.
I have noticed that I've been getting my entire stack in a lot more often than regular 6max poker, not certain why though.
of course then you have players that are realizing it is easy to steal blinds so im 3 betting their a$$ with ATC - I think 3 bets are getting through maybe 5/6 times crazy stuff.
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Originally posted by bubbleking View Posthave you tried
full ring yet?? i'm finding it very exploitable as you have your nut peddlers in abundance - meaning you can steal blinds relentlessly
of course then you have players that are realizing it is easy to steal blinds so im 3 betting their a$$ with ATC - I think 3 bets are getting through maybe 5/6 times crazy stuff.
Although, have started playing FR tournies a lot recently, and have been doing well, so maybe it wont be too much upheaval to give it a go
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Originally posted by KevIRL View PostI remember our passports being taken off us in Spain after one hell of an 'upper' fuelled week. We were threatened with having to pay something in the region of €30K to get them back due an incident involving a cabinet ministers son. Said cabinet minister had to fly out to sort.
It was a shite end to what was a brilliant holiday mind
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Originally posted by emmet02 View Posthaven't played full ring in years, and if I remember correctly, I had to learn a lot to play 6max, and unlearn a lot of FR to do so too.
Although, have started playing FR tournies a lot recently, and have been doing well, so maybe it wont be too much upheaval to give it a go
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Originally posted by max_power View PostMy trouble was being passportless, visaless, flightless and moneyless (not through my own doing), not the usual caught with a bag of pills stuff.Originally posted by max_power View PostHa true, I gathered that was what coilcam was referring to though when he mentioned getting into trouble in Thailand.
I know of an English chap who got stuck out on an Island after a party, missed the boat home after the party or something and ended up penniless, sleeping under a bridge for 2 days. He was happy to make out some sort of McGuyver-esque tale of it all but I am not so sure how much it was a romantic gonzo like account of what actually went down. He did eventually get assistanceLast edited by coillcam; 22-02-10, 14:15.
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Originally posted by bubbleking View Posthave you tried full ring yet?? i'm finding it very exploitable as you have your nut peddlers in abundance - meaning you can steal blinds relentlessly
of course then you have players that are realizing it is easy to steal blinds so im 3 betting their a$$ with ATC - I think 3 bets are getting through maybe 5/6 times crazy stuff.
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Originally posted by emmet02 View Postyup, works well. Slow playing small PPs in EP is excellent too. Open limping 22-55 in EP will get your set paid off a lot. Seems like almost 70% of hands are played as CO vs BB or BTN vs BB.
Rush is allowing idiots understand position better, and we see BTN's stealing far more than in regular 6max.
TPTK will pay off a lot of hands on the flop, so calling with SC's and small PP's even OOP is working well for me.
I have noticed that I've been getting my entire stack in a lot more often than regular 6max poker, not certain why though.Originally posted by bubbleking View Posthave you tried full ring yet?? i'm finding it very exploitable as you have your nut peddlers in abundance - meaning you can steal blinds relentlessly
of course then you have players that are realizing it is easy to steal blinds so im 3 betting their a$$ with ATC - I think 3 bets are getting through maybe 5/6 times crazy stuff.Originally posted by Howard_Finkel View PostThe light 4 bet is becoming more and more apparent imo. People are realizing there getting 3-bet with garbageTurning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide to... View Post(Guy who ran the Mexican business also ran this event in Dublin which i also worked at. I was the money guy and accountant in both cases. Absolutely chaotic - and involved running around with a fortune of cash in my pocket at any one time; with crumpled receipts in the other pocket. No wonder the Nasdaq guy ended up disputing the bill!)
2006 looks like a different planet in the rear view mirrorTurning millions into thousands
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Don't like FR
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($11.60)
SB ($10.59)
BB ($54.45)
UTG ($10)
UTG+1 ($18.87)
Hero (MP1) ($11.36)
MP2 ($20.86)
MP3 ($9.48)
CO ($8.06)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6, 6
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.30, CO calls $0.30, Button raises to $1, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.70, Hero calls $0.70, 1 fold, CO calls $0.70
Flop: ($4.45) 5, 4, 6 (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets $2.70, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.70, CO calls $2.70
Turn: ($12.55) K (3 players)
Hero bets $4, 1 fold, Button raises to $7.90 (All-In), Hero calls $3.66 (All-In)
River: ($27.87) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: $27.87 | Rake: $1.85
Results:
Button had K, K (full house, Kings over fives).
Hero had 6, 6 (full house, sixes over fives).
Outcome: Button won $26.02
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Originally posted by Flushdraw View PostCan you still buy booze in England after 10pm? I've tried ASDA in Scotland and the North and neither will sell alcohol after 10pm
On the passport thing. For a 10 year. I found out that Irish passport costs cheaper. 80euro for an Irish one while a British one costs around 120pounds so ill more than likely just get the Irish one if i can.
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