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Originally posted by Emmet View PostSince UK is generally 4/5 days behind Ireland, I may have to buy 3/4 weeks worth of wine from Aldi this weekend. Delivered Weds/Thurs. Be grand.Gone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.
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Originally posted by Murdrum View PostMy front door isn't bolted shut from the outside.
Leo laughed it off again tonight when asked that question.
It's not a full lockdown and it will never be a full lockdown.
Sounds like an open goal to bin it off but the downstream impact both financially and politically will be huge.People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Friend of mine coined it well.
If leadership is the ability to let your supporters down, in amounts they can handle...then Leo Varadkar is truly showing leadership. He’s not just minding the shop, not just being a custodian, he is edging us out of our comfort zones in degrees that we can bear with a view to moving us from where we are now to where we need to be. He’s doing well.
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That quiz was inspired by me asking the kids did they want to go on holiday.
Enthusiastic response. So I told them to pull down the big atlas and choose a destination each. Then I told them all about the wonderful history, cuisine, culture and fun stuff of that place. Some of these facts may have been slightly embellished.
I fear if they ever get to Ecuador, they will find it not to be quite the paradise I painted. Still, 30 minutes killed."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by DeadParrot View PostConstruction is gonna be interesting.
Sounds like an open goal to bin it off but the downstream impact both financially and politically will be huge."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Solksjaer! View PostFriend of mine coined it well.
If leadership is the ability to let your supporters down, in amounts they can handle...then Leo Varadkar is truly showing leadership. He’s not just minding the shop, not just being a custodian, he is edging us out of our comfort zones in degrees that we can bear with a view to moving us from where we are now to where we need to be. He’s doing well."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Answers within:
Euro-trivia:
SPOILER- How many countries does the Danube flow through? 10
- How many European Commissioners are there? 27
- Which city did the Popes reside in from 1309-1376? Avignon
- What is the capital of Turkish Cyprus? North Nicosia
- What was the capital of the Hanseatic League? Lubeck
- What year did the EEC become the EU? 1993
- Name the seven current states that previously made up Yugoslavia. Serbia, Croatia, Sloviena, Kosovo, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Bosnia
- Who was named as the first Emperor of the unified Germany in 1871? William I
- Which country has won the most Eurovisions? Ireland!
- What are the official languages of Switzerland? French, German, Italian, Romansh
"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by zuutroy View PostI know you're ploughing a lonely furrow with a lot of your positions and I don't want this to seem confrontational, but as a genuine question....Do you believe that the 15 minutes at < 2m criteria for infection is wrong, and if so is there any evidence? Following on from that, what percentage of such interactions do you think were eradicated from measures taken on March 12th, then taken during Leo's last speech, and what do you thing that number will be from tomorrow on?
As an aside here's my brother talking to Eamonn Dunphy about Sweden's approach: https://soundcloud.com/thestandwithe...troubled-world
So far the only country that has reduced community transmission to 0 new cases is the one country to impose a full lockdown at the point of a gun. It’s an inconvenient truth, that I understand, but it’s the reality of the matter.
Our new case rate on a daily basis is well short of the 30% growth rate modelled without intervention. But it’s still 15% or more on a daily basis, so it makes sense to do more. And if we’re less than the models of growth absent of intervention surely that answers your question?"Worldly wisdom teaches that it is better for reputation to fail conventionally than to succeed unconventionally." - John Maynard Keynes
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Anyone want to start some crystal ball gazing as to what happens on the other side?
My initial ones
The money won’t be there for the little man
The EU powerhouses will say drop dead to the weak countries
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Originally posted by PSV58 View PostAnyone want to start some crystal ball gazing as to what happens on the other side?
My initial ones
The money won’t be there for the little man
The EU powerhouses will say drop dead to the weak countries
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostElection already happened dude.People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by PSV58 View PostAnyone want to start some crystal ball gazing as to what happens on the other side?
My initial ones
The money won’t be there for the little man
The EU powerhouses will say drop dead to the weak countriesPeople say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
Get a shiny metal Revolut card! And a free tenner!
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Originally posted by PSV58 View PostAnyone want to start some crystal ball gazing as to what happens on the other side?
My initial ones
The money won’t be there for the little man
The EU powerhouses will say drop dead to the weak countries
I think China could come out of this best and potentially could take a much greater primacy in currency markets. I think we will see inflation again, though not in a doomsday Germany post world war 1 way - but enough to pinch pockets in the Eurozone. I could see a drastic re-evaluation of work practices and a very fundamental reassessment of role types and value add in large businesses. Finally I think the word will become a little more insular, nationalistic and less globalised for a generation. But this is obviously high level spitballing. We have no idea how bad things might get or how long this crisis may stay with us."Worldly wisdom teaches that it is better for reputation to fail conventionally than to succeed unconventionally." - John Maynard Keynes
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Originally posted by Keane View PostI seriously regret getting the good beer in now. Six bottles in and I'm mouldy again but now I've a taste for the good stuff and I'll be back to feckin peroni or something once I skull the other six.
On the upside I'm very glad I bought a turbo trainer.
You’re gonna have to cut yourself off at one nice beer the next few days. Fill the holes with swill."Worldly wisdom teaches that it is better for reputation to fail conventionally than to succeed unconventionally." - John Maynard Keynes
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If you've missed Ken Burns' documentaries (PBS) on Netflix, this seems as good a time as ever to catch up.
The American Civil War one is moving, even to complete and utter novices.
This is one of the theme songs, and it is hauntingly different and horribly sad in the documentary, but it has burned itself into my mind, and will forever be associated with any and all thoughts of that era.
"Ashokan Farewell"The Civil WarMusic from the film by Ken BurnsMusic composed & performed by Jay Ungar
edit: found the one...
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They’re top notch. He makes history very human and relatable.
The Vietnam one is exceptional, excavates all the complexities around the conflict and makes it easy to understand."Worldly wisdom teaches that it is better for reputation to fail conventionally than to succeed unconventionally." - John Maynard Keynes
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Originally posted by LuckyLloyd View PostWell to the first part, there is evidence that fomites play their part in transmitting the disease. There are only initial studies on this mind, but it tallies with viability of SARs. Additionally, the 15 minute within 2m makes sense, but let’s be honest - if a sick person coughs in your vicinity and you inhale the aerosols you’re getting it.
So far the only country that has reduced community transmission to 0 new cases is the one country to impose a full lockdown at the point of a gun. It’s an inconvenient truth, that I understand, but it’s the reality of the matter.
Our new case rate on a daily basis is well short of the 30% growth rate modelled without intervention. But it’s still 15% or more on a daily basis, so it makes sense to do more. And if we’re less than the models of growth absent of intervention surely that answers your question?
Ireland, seems to me, has been on the better side of this throughout - without taking the all out approach that some of the Asian countries, correctly, did so ... especially in contrast to US and UK policies.
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Does anybody know how many ventilators we have in Ireland?
When we talk about ICU capacity specifically for Covid-19 are we talking (like NY's Cuomo outlines) about recovery beds with ventilators or are we talking about ICU beds as we would have defined them before Covid-19?
Whats different about a Covid-19 ICU is that everybody has the same sickness so I would imagine the criteria for a Covid-19 ICU is lower than a standard ICU. Am I being too simplistic here?
I guess I'm wondering if we get 1000 ventilators does that increase our Covid-19 ICU beds by 1000 if we have a recovery bed for each of them?Last edited by TM2204; 28-03-20, 01:05.
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Originally posted by TM2204 View PostDoes anybody know how many ventilators we have in Ireland?
When we talk about ICU capacity specifically for Covid-19 are we talking (like NY's Cuomo outlines) about recovery beds with ventilators or are we talking about ICU beds as we would have defined them before Covid-19?
Whats different about a Covid-19 ICU is that everybody has the same sickness so I would imagine the criteria for a Covid-19 ICU is lower than a standard ICU. Am I being too simplistic here?
I guess I'm wondering if we get 1000 ventilators does that increase our Covid-19 ICU beds by 1000 if we have a 'bed' for each of them?
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Originally posted by TM2204 View PostDoes anybody know how many ventilators we have in Ireland?
When we talk about ICU capacity specifically for Covid-19 are we talking (like NY's Cuomo outlines) about recovery beds with ventilators or are we talking about ICU beds as we would have defined them before Covid-19?
Whats different about a Covid-19 ICU is that everybody has the same sickness so I would imagine the criteria for a Covid-19 ICU is lower than a standard ICU. Am I being too simplistic here?
I guess I'm wondering if we get 1000 ventilators does that increase our Covid-19 ICU beds by 1000 if we have a recovery bed for each of them?
If you have less staff then it becomes a HDU (High Dependency Unit). It can still be an incredible level of medical care but it's not ICU.
You are probably correct in that if multiple people in ICU have covid19 there'll be a logical case for reducing staff below the normal ratio.
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Originally posted by TM2204 View PostDoes anybody know how many ventilators we have in Ireland?
When we talk about ICU capacity specifically for Covid-19 are we talking (like NY's Cuomo outlines) about recovery beds with ventilators or are we talking about ICU beds as we would have defined them before Covid-19?
Whats different about a Covid-19 ICU is that everybody has the same sickness so I would imagine the criteria for a Covid-19 ICU is lower than a standard ICU. Am I being too simplistic here?
I guess I'm wondering if we get 1000 ventilators does that increase our Covid-19 ICU beds by 1000 if we have a recovery bed for each of them?
Making an ICU ward is the easy bit. Staffing it is the hard bit. At least 1 nurse per bed 24/7 and a team of prob couple of docs and a boss for every prob 10 beds? It's gona be messy.
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Originally posted by ArmaniJeans View PostIt's not 'proper' ICU unless there's a 1 to 1 ratio of staff to patient at all times. Correct equipment is obviously important but the 100% continual presence of a dedicated medic per patient is a key-part of what defines it as ICU.
On the one occassion when someone went into cardiac arrest, and the alarm on, there were more than 3 to 1 there within about 10 seconds, crash cart moved over etc.Last edited by ComradeCollie; 28-03-20, 03:48.Gone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.
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Originally posted by New Restrictions View PostEssential retail outlets
1. Retail and wholesale sale of food, beverages and newspapers in non-specialised and specialised stores
2. Retail sale of household consumer products necessary to maintain the safety and sanitation of residences and businesses
3. Pharmacies/Chemists and retailers providing pharmaceuticals, pharmaceutical or dispensing services
4. Retail sale of selling medical and orthopaedic goods in specialised stores
5. Fuel stations and heating fuel providers
6. Retail sale of essential items for the health and welfare of animals, including animal feed and medicines, animal food, pet food and animal supplies including bedding
7. Laundries and Drycleaners
8. Banks, Post Offices and Credit Unions
9. Retail sale of safety supply stores (work clothes, Personal Protective Equipment, for example)
Offer emergency call-out or delivery services
It is recognised that there may be emergency needs arising in a number of areas, the following retailers who can offer an emergency call-out or delivery service can continue to operate on that basis ONLY:
1.opticians/optometrists
2. retailers involved in the repair of motor vehicles, motorcycles and bicycle repair and related facilities (tyre sales and repairs for example)
3.hardware stores, builder’s merchants and stores that provide hardware products necessary for home and business maintenance, sanitation and farm equipment, supplies and tools essential for gardening/farming/agriculture
4. retail sale of office products and services for individuals working from home and for businesses
retailers providing electrical, IT and phone sales, repair and maintenance services for home.
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Interview with the Head of Chinas Disease Prevention & Control: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...scientist-says
He's an expert on the structure of viruses so touches on seasonality too.
Few key bits:
SPOILERThe big mistake in the U.S. and Europe, in my opinion, is that people aren’t wearing masks. This virus is transmitted by droplets and close contact. Droplets play a very important role—you’ve got to wear a mask, because when you speak, there are always droplets coming out of your mouth. Many people have asymptomatic or presymptomatic infections. If they are wearing face masks, it can prevent droplets that carry the virus from escaping and infecting others.
How stable this virus is in the environment. Because it’s an enveloped virus, people think it’s fragile and particularly sensitive to surface temperature or humidity. But from both U.S. results and Chinese studies, it looks like it’s very resistant to destruction on some surfaces. It may be able to survive in many environments. We need to have science-based answers here.
From the very beginning, everybody thought the origin was the market. Now, I think the market could be the initial place, or it could be a place where the virus was amplified. So that’s a scientific question. There are two possibilities.
Remdivisir data will be available next month
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Originally posted by LuckyLloyd View PostSo full lockdown.
Wish we’d done it earlier, but hopefully better late than never.
Easily have nearly 5k people unnecessary traveling and interacting across the county all for profit.
I really hope they come out this morning with a proper list, companies are taking advantage claiming to be medically essential.
I am sure the American chamber of commerce has a pretty vocal lobby group when it comes to DFI, lets hope Leo has the balls to tell them cop the fuck on.This too shall pass.
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Originally posted by oleras View PostFar from full, our place will be staying open, around 500+ daily coming and going, lots more factories in the Limerick area will be doing the same, using the "essential" line. Essential to their bottom line, certainly not essential to aiding in the covid crisis. We were told last night wont be affecting us, I will head to bed now after working last night to see if anything changes later, doubt it though.
Easily have nearly 5k people unnecessary traveling and interacting across the county all for profit.
I really hope they come out this morning with a proper list, companies are taking advantage claiming to be medically essential.
I am sure the American chamber of commerce has a pretty vocal lobby group when it comes to DFI, lets hope Leo has the balls to tell them cop the fuck on.Redbet at the Dublin Poker Invasion FTW
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Originally posted by The Aul Switcharoo View PostI work in the same industry as you. Contact lens manufacture and we are using the essential medical device loophole too. We are at 100% capacity and no chance of slowing. They sent an email around the other day to say if someone gets it on shift they will lockdown the area for a day, deep clean and back in again Money hungry fuckersThis too shall pass.
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It's funny how countries stereotypes seem to be heavily correlated towards how they're managing the spread. Places like China or Germany which would be noted as being fairly disciplined and a bit subservient are handling it best. Countries where people are famed for being impassioned or vibrant seem to be the worst affected. The warning messages are largely the same in all countries but habits of a lifetime seem to be having a massive baring on how well its received.Profit before people.
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Originally posted by The Situation View PostIt's funny how countries stereotypes seem to be heavily correlated towards how they're managing the spread. Places like China or Germany which would be noted as being fairly disciplined and a bit subservient are handling it best. Countries where people are famed for being impassioned or vibrant seem to be the worst affected. The warning messages are largely the same in all countries but habits of a lifetime seem to be having a massive baring on how well its received.Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt
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Originally posted by rounders123 View PostThe Reuter is very good. Talks in an earthy and easy to understand way.
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Vodafone are sound.
Still no proper broadband in the house so working from sis-in-laws the past few weeks, that's gone now so needed to sort something.
Contacted them and they tripled my mobile tower data limit in a few minutes. They said, even in the event you reach the limit, they'd sort me out.
Also reduced my bill by 5e, can't beat that.
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Only took a countrywide lockdown to finally get the wife gambling after 21 years.
Currently watching Magic TV who are doing 9 hours of all the No 1s of the 90's. The song caption doesnt appear for about 10 seconds so there's a toffiepop for each 1st correct answer
Playing the long game early here and letting her scorch into the lead before upping stakes....
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Originally posted by Solksjaer! View PostPerimeter breach alert. Man spotted beyond the Newcastle 2k boundary line. White cap red Liverpool Jersey . Take him down Boys
May have to head out at 4am. Can't just stop running.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Zoom and Poker with the lads is great Craic. Someone in here said one thing it has done has press the reset button on this thread. Also on so many WhatsApp loops and others. Small positives.Last edited by Silver-Tiger; 28-03-20, 11:36.
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Originally posted by Lazare View PostWent for a 12k run this morn, keeping within the 2km limit. Got a real disapproving tut tut shake of the head from a motorist.
May have to head out at 4am. Can't just stop running.
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Originally posted by KevIRL View PostFuck sake Conor. Thought you would have more cop on. Brief individual exercise.
I'll be doing a similar time run in a while, albeit sadly it won't be 12K.
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Originally posted by Ed View PostPrimavera postponed til the end of August. Seems optimistic given how bad things are in Spain
Have already resigned myself to the fact it won't go ahead but haven't seen anything official on it yet.
Had that lined up followed by a few days drinking wine along the Douro.
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