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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostThought about playing the IO this year for the first time in ages I could just about manage the time to play a few days in a row, but couldn't muster up enough enthusiasm. Will probably call by and play a bit of cash and maybe one of the sides.
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Sky bet did a special, 16/1 for Sterling and Son to have 2+ shots on target each
Don't imagine they thought they would be paying out after 23 minutes and 2 goals each
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Ah a var related technical term
great game veryULlucky spursLast edited by Strewelpeter; 17-04-19, 20:54.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostSeems like I picked a good night to kick off the painting of El Gaffo Nuevo.
WTF happened at Maine Rd, madness?
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Originally posted by Lao Lao View PostNothing much, just a 7 goal thriller plus an injury time goal that would have won it for city disallowed after VAR reviewed it.
VAR actually seems to be working although the administration of it is tortuous."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by The Situation View PostLooked more like Laportes hand than anything. Don't think it hit Llorente's
I liked Glenn Hoddles question, if the goal is disallowed, do you give a penalty for the push with both hands by Laporte?
That push would have caused the handball, so you would have to, but can they look at that with VAR as it is not what it was sent to VAR for
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Originally posted by Solksjaer! View PostThat was the most entertaining match in years.
City won drew and lost in the same match.
Last year in this exact round we had Roma winning the second (home) leg 3-0 v Barca after being down and out losing the first leg 4-1. Then Juventus lost 3-0 at home to Real (Ronnie overhead kick) before levelling it up in the Bernebau. Then the late penalty, Bouffon red.
Champions league tends to deliver.
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Originally posted by ArmaniJeans View PostSlight bit of recency bias there.
Last year in this exact round we had Roma winning the second (home) leg 3-0 v Barca after being down and out losing the first leg 4-1. Then Juventus lost 3-0 at home to Real (Ronnie overhead kick) before levelling it up in the Bernebau. Then the late penalty, Bouffon red.
Champions league tends to deliver.
Champions League really does spoil us.
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Originally posted by ArmaniJeans View PostSlight bit of recency bias there.
Last year in this exact round we had Roma winning the second (home) leg 3-0 v Barca after being down and out losing the first leg 4-1. Then Juventus lost 3-0 at home to Real (Ronnie overhead kick) before levelling it up in the Bernebau. Then the late penalty, Bouffon red.
Champions league tends to deliver.
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Those posts are always great when I'm trying to figure out wtf you guys are excited about.
Also macbooks are fine Hitch if you're not actually doing computative work on them, they are a great piece of long lasting kit for an average user, and they look nice. It's a real case of what the end user is like as a person. But if you actually just care about "proper" work or are good with computers they are a laughable waste of money. Still, beautiful designs. If my mother wanted a laptop I'd give her one of those. Less likely things go wrong that you need to fix yourself, a well defined path to repair, standardization, etc. So much of it is hype though, it's funny that graphic designers still hold onto them, a vestige of times gone by when they were actually better for their work. Now it's a case of "well everybody else uses them and those people are the best in their field so I should use one too".
Your wife shouldn't have got one anyway! Probably the same as regular laptop that is a third of the price or less.Last edited by Tar.Aldarion; 18-04-19, 08:50.
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Are extinction rebellion funded by the oil industry? From the little I’ve seen they are coming across as absolute twats.
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Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostThose posts are always great when I'm trying to figure out wtf you guys are excited about.
Also macbooks are fine Hitch if you're not actually doing computative work on them, they are a great piece of long lasting kit for an average user, and they look nice. It's a real case of what the end user is like as a person. But if you actually just care about "proper" work or are good with computers they are a laughable waste of money. Still, beautiful designs. If my mother wanted a laptop I'd give her one of those. Less likely things go wrong that you need to fix yourself, a well defined path to repair, standardization, etc. So much of it is hype though, it's funny that graphic designers still hold onto them, a vestige of times gone by when they were actually better for their work. Now it's a case of "well everybody else uses them and those people are the best in their field so I should use one too".
Your wife shouldn't have got one anyway! Probably the same as regular laptop that is a third of the price or less.
There's only one people manager in my segment that doesn't use a MacBook and he's doing that Data Analytics MSc in UCD.
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Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostI'm going to go along to the march in town tomorrow, piss you off and march for the environment, sounds wodnerful
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Originally posted by PSV58 View PostSeems like a lot of genuine types at it but media pushing the upper class twats who have latched onto it and some of the stupider stunts which is just going to make it easier for people to dismiss.
My favourite protest story
Kyoto protest beaten back by inflamed petrol traders
WHEN 35 Greenpeace protesters stormed the International Petroleum Exchange (IPE) yesterday they had planned the operation in great detail.
What they were not prepared for was the post-prandial aggression of oil traders who kicked and punched them back on to the pavement.
“We bit off more than we could chew. They were just Cockney barrow boy spivs. Total thugs,” one protester said, rubbing his bruised skull. “I’ve never seen anyone less amenable to listening to our point of view.”
Another said: “I took on a Texan Swat team at Esso last year and they were angels compared with this lot.” Behind him, on the balcony of the pub opposite the IPE, a bleary-eyed trader, pint in hand, yelled: “Sod off, Swampy.”
Greenpeace had hoped to paralyse oil trading at the exchange in the City near Tower Bridge on the day that the Kyoto Protocol came into force. “The Kyoto Protocol has modest aims to improve the climate and we need huge aims,” a spokesman said.
Protesters conceded that mounting the operation after lunch may not have been the best plan. “The violence was instant,” Jon Beresford, 39, an electrical engineer from Nottingham, said.
“They grabbed us and started kicking and punching. Then when we were on the floor they tried to push huge filing cabinets on top of us to crush us.” When a trader left the building shortly before 2pm, using a security swipe card, a protester dropped some coins on the floor and, as he bent down to pick them up, put his boot in the door to keep it open.
Two minutes later, three Greenpeace vans pulled up and another 30 protesters leapt out and were let in by the others.
They made their way to the trading floor, blowing whistles and sounding fog horns, encountering little resistance from security guards. Rape alarms were tied to helium balloons to float to the ceiling and create noise out of reach. The IPE conducts “open outcry” trading where deals are shouted across the pit. By making so much noise, the protesters hoped to paralyse trading.
But they were set upon by traders, most of whom were under the age of 25. “They were kicking and punching men and women indiscriminately,” a photographer said. “It was really ugly, but Greenpeace did not fight back.”
Mr Beresford said: “They followed the guys into the lobby and kept kicking and punching them there. They literally kicked them on to the pavement.”
Last night Greenpeace said two protesters were in hospital, one with a suspected broken jaw, the other with concussion.
A spokeswoman from IPE said the trading floor reopened at 3.10pm. “The floor was invaded by a small group of protesters,” she said. “Open outcry trading was suspended but electronic trading carried on.”
Eighteen police vans and six police cars surrounded the exchange and at least 27 protesters were arrested. A small band blocked the entrance to the building for the rest of the evening.
Richard Ward, IPE’s chief executive, said that the exchange would review security but denied that protesters had reached the trading floor. However, traders, protesters and press photographers confirmed to The Times that the trading floor had been breached.
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Originally posted by Elshambles View PostWhat's best for an Android phone?People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
Get a shiny metal Revolut card! And a free tenner!
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Is there any websites that you can offer Staking on?
Looked to do it on 2+2 but you have to pay a fair chunk to advertise staking.
If not, will prob throw a thread up here... Want to put someone into MTTs or something..Would love to be playing but don't have the time to.
--- The boom is truly back says you. .
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Going on holiday soon, and am looking for recommendtions for a place in Dublin central where I can pick up a half decent tablet with good battery and storage for not crazy money. My old one battery is shit and keeps over heating..No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity, but I know none, therefore am no beast.
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Originally posted by TheJiggaman View PostIs there any websites that you can offer Staking on?
Looked to do it on 2+2 but you have to pay a fair chunk to advertise staking.
If not, will prob throw a thread up here... Want to put someone into MTTs or something..Would love to be playing but don't have the time to.
--- The boom is truly back says you. .
TLDR - buy a plane like Zuutroy
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Originally posted by Denny Crane View PostMy favourite protest storyPeople say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
Get a shiny metal Revolut card! And a free tenner!
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Originally posted by Dice75 View PostOut of curiosity are you talking live or online. The Irish scene is pretty bad for larger buyin MTTs bar a window of Mar/Apr (finito) and then Sept and even at that you are only looking at a few events that step outside the now saturated €120 market which need a top 3 (from 500-1000) runners to make it worthwhile.
TLDR - buy a plane like Zuutroy
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Hard to imagine there is much value in staking generally let alone online.
The standard is incredibly high, variance is obviously high too.
Most stables will have a full time coach who has a piece too whether that is a favourable deal for themselves or a guaranteed wage.
I suspect staking people outside of anything but a punt is pretty difficult to do.
That said, if you got lucky with a really dedicated player there could be something. I suspect they'd need to be very high volume and you get a piece of rakeback.
Alternatively or combined with someone who could attract an audience via streaming that might generate some revenue.
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Cause it's been awhile...and in preparation for the Mueller Report
People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
Get a shiny metal Revolut card! And a free tenner!
https://revolut.com/referral/jamesb8!G10D21
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Originally posted by Flushdraw View PostFrom watching a couple of hours of the live stream, i forgot how much value is in that game. Wish i was playing
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##On Mueller's opinion on Impeachment for Obstruction of Justice
There is a wealth of obstructive behavior described in this report, much of it previously unknown ([including ordering McGahn to direct Rosenstein to fire Mueller](https://twitter.com/neal_katyal/stat...07347726950405)), and too much to summarize here. So on the final reasoning for not making a determination on obstruction, Mueller's language comes [very close to a formal impeachment referral](https://twitter.com/emptywheel/statu...726420717568):
>"We concluded that **Congress has authority to prohibit a President's corrupt use of his authority** in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice."
[And later, he is even more emphatic](https://twitter.com/emptywheel/statu...998345789442):
>The conclusion that Congress may apply the obstruction laws to the President's corrupt exercise of the powers of office **accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law.**
And [to drive the point home](https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/s...978797240321):
>“If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of Justice **we would so state.**”
Barr concealed all of this in his Summary and press conference this morning. In direct contradiction to the reasoning in Barr's summary, [Mueller notes that](https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1118905745288957952) "The **injury to the integrity of the justice system is the same** regardless of whether a person committed an underlying wrong." [and that](https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1118906071156973569) "The President's efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the **persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders** or accede to his requests."
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##On GRU beginning its hacking operation at the apparent public direction of Donald J. Trump
Mueller directly states that [Trump himself appears to be catalyst](https://twitter.com/davidenrich/stat...544799023104):
>Candidate Trump made public statements that included the following: "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing"...**Within approximately five hours of Trump's statement**, GRU officers targeted **for the first time** Clinton's personal office. After candidate Trump's remarks, Unit 26165 created and sent malicious links targeting 15 email accounts....The investigation did not find evidence of earlier GRU attempts to compromise accounts hosted on this domain. **It is unclear how the GRU was able to identify these email accounts**, which were not public.,
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##On Manafort Sharing Internal Polling Data with Russia
Beginning page 136, in a section with significant redactions marked "Grand Jury" (the flavor most open to abuse by Barr), Manafort/Gates knew they were sharing internal campaign polling data with one of the most infamous Russian oligarchs (Oleg Deripaska) via former GRU Intelligence Officer (Kilimnik):
>Gates also reported that Manafort instructed him in April 2016 or early May 2016 to send Kilimnik Campaign internal polling data and other updates so that Kilimnik, in turn, could share it with Ukrainian oligarchs. **Gates understood that the information would also be shared with Deripaska, <redacted redacted redacted redacted>**.
And it was an ongoing, continual flow of campaign data to Russia:
>Gates stated that, in accordance with Manafort's instruction, **he periodically sent Kilimnik polling data via WhatsApp; Gates then deleted the communications on a daily basis.**
This is the most egregious redaction in this section, in a briefing about the internal polling data from Manafort to Gates:
>According to Gates, **it also included a discussion of "battleground" states**, which Manafort identified as Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Minnesota. Manafort did not refer explicitly to "battleground" states in his telling of the August 2 discussion. **<redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted redacted>**
On concealing interactions with Kilimnik at the time:
>After the meeting, Gates and Manafort both stated that they left separately from Kilimnik because they knew the media was tracking Manafort and wanted to avoid media reporting on his connections to Kilimnik.
All of the redactions are marked "Grand Jury", despite no indication from the context that they involve witnesses other than those already being discussed.
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##In the context of Barr's Summary from March and Press Conference Today
Barr used the "no collusion" phrase in his presser today, having personally read and redacted this document describing extensive collusive behavior, and despite the fact that Mueller [explicitly states](https://twitter.com/sbg1/status/1118895869041041408) that "we applied the framework of conspiracy law not the concept of ‘collusion.’".
In perhaps the best illustration of Barr's bad faith in preparing his summary, [we can now see the full paragraph](https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1118917787605454848) from which Barr chose to quote *only* the final clause (in *italics*):
>The investigation also **identified numerous links** between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign. Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that **the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts**, *the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities*.
Not a word is, or could be defensibly redacted. There was no reason to only excerpt 25% of a sentence that was explicitly written by the Special Counsel to summarize his own conclusions.
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##On Ongoing Investigations
Mueller interpreted his mandate very narrowly. He investigated only conspiracy to interfere with the election. While Trump Tower Moscow is discussed, there is virtually no other reference to investigation of possible Trump Org financial entanglements that could influence or explain his behavior, with Russia or anyone else.
Everything else was spun off to other parts DoJ, but the report does describe those investigations: **14 Criminal Referrals**, [all but two of them secret](https://twitter.com/BySteveReilly/st...17924822159360), and every single one of those redacted with the explanation that their revelation would represent "Harm to an Ongoing Matter".
Absolutely no collusionPeople say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Flushdraw View Post
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Just heading off from IO now....played yesterday and was only one at table to lose not once or twice but thrice to table retard while they all made hay....came up tonight on rip and busted sat so decided to have a druken cash spin...150 to 1300 in 45 mins was impressive considering the garbage i got but calling the drunker Nordie down with jack high for the lot was fun...jumped back into main with 20 mins left but some mad Scandi called me down with K7 for his life v my 66. Meh.
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