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@luckforsome - It's 15 years ago but I pretty much did your trip in reverse and took a month to do it. Vietnam is savage and Hoi An was my favourite place in all of South East Asia.
In other news, got back from the festival last night to our hotel and neither room key would work so I went back down to reception to sort it out. On the way back up, I just got back into the lift when several people from a hen party jumped in. They then held the lift for the rest of the party to jump in for a total of about 12 young American chicks (the rooftop bar on our hotel is pretty popular at the weekends). Just me and the dozen of them.
It was like they had a prepared script for every bloke they met on the night out.
Them : Are you a patriots fan?
Me : No
Them : Are you from Boston?
Me : No
Them : Are you from Massachusetts?
Me : No
Them: Are you from the lower east side?
Me : No
Them : Are you from New York?
Me : No
Them: Can you do an Irish jig?
Me : Yes
Them: Did you just say yes as you were tired of saying no?
Me : No
Them : OMG, how can you do an Irish jig?
Me : Beacause I'm Irish
At this point, this was shrieks and squeals and screams as they had to alert the Bride to be that I was Irish.
Bride to be : Do you know Gaelic?
Me : Yes
BTB : I mean Gaelic sport?
Me : Yes
BTB : Where are you from in Ireland?
Me : Dublin
BTB : I'm sorry, I can't like you. I'm Mayo, my dad is Mayo, we are Mayo so I can't like you.
Lots of hens chiming in : Brittany, that's not nice. He seems so nice. He answered all our questions. He's Irish.
BTB : No, he gets it, he knows Gaelic, he knows I can't like him, you know I'm right, right?
Me : Yes, I know
BTB: You see, he knows, he's Irish and he knows Gaelic, he knows Mayo.
Longest lift journey of my life, ever.
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Originally posted by Mike Bullocks View PostWell Lazare, I hope you haven’t climbed the flagpole in the local garage in Newcastle to remove the Papal flag flying proudly. They are not very Christian in there anyway, a pack of biscuits and a roll of bin bags eating up over a tenner. Should be the PayPal flag.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Anyone had experience of travelling in late pregnancy ? The rules for travelling in seem to be a bit inconsistent.
Journey would be London to Dublin at Christmas flying one way on the cusp of week 36 and back at latest during week 38.
Ryanair allow boarding up until the end of week 36 with a cert but AerLingus are no fly from start of week 34
Ferry would be an option but in the depths of winter a long drive or train and even a fast sailing might be very uncomfortable. In any case Irish Ferries are saying no travel after 32 weeks and Stena say no restriction but check with your insurance company before travelling.
So in theory we could arrange an Ryanair over and a Stena back.
What are the practicalities like, at the moment she would really like to travel but by the time it comes around maybe it will be just too much ?
Is it all a bit OTT restrictive or are the rules sensible?Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostAnyone had experience of travelling in late pregnancy ? The rules for travelling in seem to be a bit inconsistent.
Journey would be London to Dublin at Christmas flying one way on the cusp of week 36 and back at latest during week 38.
Ryanair allow boarding up until the end of week 36 with a cert but AerLingus are no fly from start of week 34
Ferry would be an option but in the depths of winter a long drive or train and even a fast sailing might be very uncomfortable. In any case Irish Ferries are saying no travel after 32 weeks and Stena say no restriction but check with your insurance company before travelling.
So in theory we could arrange an Ryanair over and a Stena back.
What are the practicalities like, at the moment she would really like to travel but by the time it comes around maybe it will be just too much ?
Is it all a bit OTT restrictive or are the rules sensible?
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostAnyone had experience of travelling in late pregnancy ? The rules for travelling in seem to be a bit inconsistent.
Journey would be London to Dublin at Christmas flying one way on the cusp of week 36 and back at latest during week 38.
Ryanair allow boarding up until the end of week 36 with a cert but AerLingus are no fly from start of week 34
Ferry would be an option but in the depths of winter a long drive or train and even a fast sailing might be very uncomfortable. In any case Irish Ferries are saying no travel after 32 weeks and Stena say no restriction but check with your insurance company before travelling.
So in theory we could arrange an Ryanair over and a Stena back.
What are the practicalities like, at the moment she would really like to travel but by the time it comes around maybe it will be just too much ?
Is it all a bit OTT restrictive or are the rules sensible?
That 'I really would like to travel' notion will turn into 'I really don't want to travel anywhere' as the day draws nearer. Don't bother and just go over to visit in Jan."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostCongratulations.
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostCongratulations.
That 'I really would like to travel' notion will turn into 'I really don't want to travel anywhere' as the day draws nearer. Don't bother and just go over to visit in Jan.
There will be plenty of time afterwards, the timing is just that little bit off with Christmas but it is what it is.
Originally posted by MukeBullockshttps://youtu.be/6KJGJRd8pGETurning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostThanks, its a very different vibe from having our own, much more exciting and much more nervousness.
That's what I'm expecting to happen but for the moment we'll try to keep the options open. So far most of the women I've asked prefer the ferry as long as there is someone else along to do all the carrying etc.
There will be plenty of time afterwards, the timing is just that little bit off with Christmas but it is what it is.
The difference between you and me is that when I'm out and about with the baby and all the yummies are trying to figure out if I'm the daddy or the grandad I won't be mostly disappointed
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostSlightly surprised Jennies Jewel not revealed as the expectant mother.
Its a long story best kept for another occasion and when the whole thing plays out, I suppose its a version of the story that has often been told about the farmer with one cowTurning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by DeadParrot View PostRussians
Never met any Russians
Never spoke to any Russians
Never had any formal meetings with Russians
Never spoke about the election
Never discussed help in the election
Never actually asked for help in the election
They asked for help but it was a waste of time
NO COLLUSION!!! <<<<< We are here
Ok they colluded, but it didnt really matter
Ok they colluded, it helped swing it, but what are you going to do about it?
Is collusion even a crime?
Looks like we might be moving the needle againPresident Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani said in a pair of interviews on Monday morning that he was at a loss for how colluding with Russians would be categorized as a crime and that the president did not "pay them for hacking," which he said was the real offense.
President Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani said in a pair of Monday morning interviews that he was at a loss for how colluding with the Russians would be categorized as a crime. Instead, he shifted the conversation by noting that the president did not "pay them for hacking," which he said was the real offense.
Speaking with the "Fox and Friends" morning show, Giuliani said he has "been sitting here looking in the federal code trying to find collusion as a crime."
"Collusion is not a crime," he said, adding the the president is "absolutely innocent."People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by rounders123 View PostKitt blamed Fine Gael who he said are “failing this city and its people massively. And Dublin’s heart and soul is being ripped out and sold to the highest bidder.”
I heard him on the radio recently and thought he sounded better than he used to and was showing signs of maturing into an interesting performer.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by luckforsome View Post...This is 100% being avoided so, based on you, New Approach and other people ho are not as important...What would you recommend in place of it, and will it fit into my current itinerary?...Like if you want to just plan my trip, by all means ...
...Edit to add-- Fro day 4, I had seen a place called Mekong Delta, so I could do another day in Ho Chi Minh City if this is a good place and within distance...Should also add, i'm traveling alone for the couple of weeks and will be doing hotels instead of hostels...
I spent a year in North Vietnam but travelled up and down a few times. The crew I used to work for run a very good hostel to be fair to them and they've set up a few places throughout the country now.
They have hostels in all the bigger places. Ninh Binh is their new one and its meant to be very good. You can get private rooms in the hostel which is basically a hotel with all the banter. The hostel in Downtown Hanoi, 9 Ma May is quality. Sickpuppy stayed there he can give you an objective view.
Re tours:
Halong bay is brilliant. The tour you choose will have a big effect on the enjoyment though. Try do one with a youngerish crowd and some activities. There are some really cool caves and places to kayak around, some awesome little fishing villages to visit and drink beer on a raft. If you get on an older one its all wine and wow from the boat. Pictures and peace signs. No banter that.
Cat Ba, which is an island off the north coast, near Hai Phong has some sick places to do rock climbing, there is a company there called Slo Pony that runs tours in Ha Long and Lan Ha bay. You can do deep water soloing there too. They drop you off on a ledge, you climb as high as you jump out into the water when you can get any higher. Good lol.
Try get to Sa Pa and Mai Chau both pretty cool. Both are a lot quieter than a lot of places you'd visit and you can do pretty cool homestays there. Its good craic getting ratarsed wth a pair of oul vietnamese who have no idea what you are saying.
Id highly recommend biking up the country. You'd get a honda win for 2-300 dollars in Ho Chi and sell it in Hanoi. Mosey on up then. You'll never be stuck if it breaks down, people be falling over themselves to help you for a few dong. I've never bussed or cabbed so I cant comment but most hotels or hostels organize that pretty easy for you.This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
All efforts were made to make this thought original but with the abundance of thoughts in the world the originality of this thought cannot be guaranteed.
The author is not liable for any issue arising from the platitudinous nature of this post.
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Originally posted by GimmeabreakDid it ever occur to you that maybe he just grew up doing his own thing. Arty, followed his musical desires, knew fuck all about politics and cared less. Perhaps hoping to grow up as David Kitt, musician. Not David Kitt, son of. Recognised as one, not "tarred" as another. His own man. Perhaps?
Did it ever occur to you that maybe he's fed up of of his career and fancying a job change into the family business, after all he does have that all important political family name recognition... odd isn't it that he's one of the very few artists of his generation chose to use his family name and not a band brand monikerTurning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostIndeed, thats what I used to think until I hear him whinging that because of Fine Geal he can't afford to live in a city whose property market was in reality destroyed by the party his family represent.
Did it ever occur to you that maybe he's fed up of of his career and fancying a job change into the family business, after all he does have that all important political family name recognition... odd isn't it that he's one of the very few artists of his generation chose to use his family name and not a band brand moniker
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Originally posted by GimmeabreakDid it ever occur to you that maybe he just grew up doing his own thing. Arty, followed his musical desires, knew fuck all about politics and cared less. Perhaps hoping to grow up as David Kitt, musician. Not David Kitt, son of. Recognised as one, not "tarred" as another. His own man. Perhaps?
Then he refers to his father as being 'someone who often sang from a different hymn-sheet within Fianna Fail'. I know nothing much about Tom Kitt but 5 junior ministries over 20 years indicates either a loyalist/conformist or potentially a maverick if he hails from a key regional constituency (but Dublin South doesn't really fit that bill).
So not really a lot in that one article to build a case for him.
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Originally posted by Theresa View PostWhy are you choosing hotels over hostels?
I spent a year in North Vietnam but travelled up and down a few times. The crew I used to work for run a very good hostel to be fair to them and they've set up a few places throughout the country now.
They have hostels in all the bigger places. Ninh Binh is their new one and its meant to be very good. You can get private rooms in the hostel which is basically a hotel with all the banter. The hostel in Downtown Hanoi, 9 Ma May is quality. Sickpuppy stayed there he can give you an objective view.
Re tours:
Halong bay is brilliant. The tour you choose will have a big effect on the enjoyment though. Try do one with a youngerish crowd and some activities. There are some really cool caves and places to kayak around, some awesome little fishing villages to visit and drink beer on a raft. If you get on an older one its all wine and wow from the boat. Pictures and peace signs. No banter that.
Cat Ba, which is an island off the north coast, near Hai Phong has some sick places to do rock climbing, there is a company there called Slo Pony that runs tours in Ha Long and Lan Ha bay. You can do deep water soloing there too. They drop you off on a ledge, you climb as high as you jump out into the water when you can get any higher. Good lol.
Try get to Sa Pa and Mai Chau both pretty cool. Both are a lot quieter than a lot of places you'd visit and you can do pretty cool homestays there. Its good craic getting ratarsed wth a pair of oul vietnamese who have no idea what you are saying.
Id highly recommend biking up the country. You'd get a honda win for 2-300 dollars in Ho Chi and sell it in Hanoi. Mosey on up then. You'll never be stuck if it breaks down, people be falling over themselves to help you for a few dong. I've never bussed or cabbed so I cant comment but most hotels or hostels organize that pretty easy for you.
...Edit to add- Reason I'm planning hotels over hostels is purely comfortable/awkwardness purposes...I don't always do good in company I'm not sure of, and extremely conscious I'd struggle in a hostel...I'm aware I'm sacrificing the banter and craic, and hoping to still find away of having the best of both worlds kinda thing...Your suggestion of a private hostel thing is absolutely quality, and will defintely look into it...Last edited by luckforsome; 30-07-18, 23:52.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostBear in mind also that there's a huge number of homes coming on stream over next two/three years, directly as a result of Eoghan Murphy changing the planning system to bypass local authorities for major developments (has knocked about 12 months off planning wait). And blaming FG for the collapse of the building sector during the crisis is a bit mad. Takes a while to rebuild an entire sector.
The underlying economics would have rebuilt the sector anyway, but FG seem to have speeded it up.
The vast majority of the money being invested in residential in Dublin is international finance pulling out of retail and whatever the Fintard groupthink dictated was going to tick upwards forever a few years ago. The moment the stock markets take their inevitable dive and they have to pay the piper then Allsops will be back flogging them for ten a penny.
If we don't get the scheduled projects built and occupied before the crash then it will look similar to 2009 with half built projects and no money to finish them.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostToo much money and not enough builders could lead to another disaster.
The vast majority of the money being invested in residential in Dublin is international finance pulling out of retail and whatever the Fintard groupthink dictated was going to tick upwards forever a few years ago. The moment the stock markets take their inevitable dive and they have to pay the piper then Allsops will be back flogging them for ten a penny.
If we don't get the scheduled projects built and occupied before the crash then it will look similar to 2009 with half built projects and no money to finish them."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by GimmeabreakDid it ever occur to you that maybe he just grew up doing his own thing. Arty, followed his musical desires, knew fuck all about politics and cared less. Perhaps hoping to grow up as David Kitt, musician. Not David Kitt, son of. Recognised as one, not "tarred" as another. His own man. Perhaps?
So now I think he is either has zero self awareness or is a spoilt idiot child playing around till he gets daddies money (which is fine until he starts writing back door FF hatchet jobs)
** TBH by tomorrow I will probably think about him as much as usual, which will be about once every two years when I see his name somewhere
Btw I'm somewhat in the same boat, as any thought of moving back to Dublin was quickly pushed out of my head by the realities of the market
Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostBear in mind also that there's a huge number of homes coming on stream over next two/three years, directly as a result of Eoghan Murphy changing the planning system to bypass local authorities for major developments (has knocked about 12 months off planning wait). And blaming FG for the collapse of the building sector during the crisis is a bit mad. Takes a while to rebuild an entire sector.
The underlying economics would have rebuilt the sector anyway, but FG seem to have speeded it up.
Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostToo much money and not enough builders could lead to another disaster.
The vast majority of the money being invested in residential in Dublin is international finance pulling out of retail and whatever the Fintard groupthink dictated was going to tick upwards forever a few years ago. The moment the stock markets take their inevitable dive and they have to pay the piper then Allsops will be back flogging them for ten a penny.
If we don't get the scheduled projects built and occupied before the crash then it will look similar to 2009 with half built projects and no money to finish them.
Not sure how many young fellas took up the trades to fill the gap
With the fear of Brexit in the air, maybe we should try and get some home along with some English/Polish lads?
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Originally posted by shrapnel View Postwith all this talk of houses, urgh, it's official. we are house hunting. prices are jumping around quite a bit so low ball offers are de rigueur!!
Would you not wait to see how Brexipocalypse plays out?"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostWe have a completely different debt dynamic this time.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostIn London? Ballsy move if so.
Would you not wait to see how Brexipocalypse plays out?
As there's a lot of confusion and uncertainty, there are starting to be some good deals already, and people are lowering prices incredibly quickly, an looking for a quick sale. If we can get a good deal, get a bigger and nicer place than what we have now and pay the same amount we are currently paying on rent, then it starts to make sense for us.
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Originally posted by shrapnel View Postwe're just in the initial stages, so doubtful anything will go through before brexit.
As there's a lot of confusion and uncertainty, there are starting to be some good deals already, and people are lowering prices incredibly quickly, an looking for a quick sale. If we can get a good deal, get a bigger and nicer place than what we have now and pay the same amount we are currently paying on rent, then it starts to make sense for us.
Good luck though. I'll buy your gaff with my spare change when the Brexit zombies are roaming the streets and eating your brains."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostI wouldn't be locking myself into a commitment for the rest of my working life at this point!
Good luck though. I'll buy your gaff with my spare change when the Brexit zombies are roaming the streets and eating your brains.
There was an interesting article in finance news the other day referring to a grandee committee of the city and they seemed to think it is a lock that Teresa May doesn’t survive until March 2019. Not only do they think it but CEOs of large financial institutions were saying it on the record. Wargaming what that means for the sort of fall over the line Brexit that ends up happening is sobering.
Very hard Brexit or no deal Brexit or else a Labour govt and a short extension to the negotiating period. All of which have to mean a severe UK recession and throw in one for us as well.
I presume you are sitting on a cash pile waiting to pounce on the inevitable value that’s going to arise in Clontarf and not worrying about Shrap in London.Last edited by V for Vendetta; 31-07-18, 11:13.‘IF YOU had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.” Genghis Khan
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostWTF are we going to do if Brexit turns out through a series of unintended consequences to be a tremendous success for the thickos promoting it and its only us who end up in the shitter over it ?
Time to start applying to Trump for a visa Tony.‘IF YOU had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.” Genghis Khan
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostWTF are we going to do if Brexit turns out through a series of unintended consequences to be a tremendous success for the thickos promoting it and its only us who end up in the shitter over it ?
The fact that leavers are invoking Big Sandwich as potential fear mongers shows how far down the rabbit hole they are
SPOILER
British medical association have released their findings on Brexit impact on healthcare
spoiler: it's bad
British Medical Association says failing to give patients an informed decision on their care would see doctors being struck off as study reveals widespread concern about harm to NHS from bad deal
Add in the fact that Dover continues to be a nightmare
They are fuuuuuuuccckkked
What I had thought possible was a 2nd referendum.
But if so, who leads it?
May obviously cannot, she's tied herself to the leave mast and would have serious trouble explaining the sudden about dace. It's obvious she doesnt like the leave option but she's tied her political life to it.
Corbyn I can't see doing it as he's pretty anti EU himself. Considering his latest issues with semitism he has no problem hurting the party for his causes.
Given the heads of both parties can't head it up, the option left are GE for leadership where tories scrap over the line then another one in 18 months to leave the mess in labours hands
or, and I'm pretty sure they are ALL funking for this, big incorrigible evidence that the leave campaign cheated and/or had Russia leading a hand. That way everyone including the EU gets to save face by declaring the result null and void.People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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As big a recession as the UK may experience for 5 or 10 years, London weathers it much better than the rest of the UK generally. IMO, once the uncertainty and the ugliness of brexit is over, then London will start looking attractive again for a lot of people. market is heading south but it'll look more like a correction than a crash. Impossible to tell, so it's all just guesswork at this stage.
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Originally posted by shrapnel View PostAs big a recession as the UK may experience for 5 or 10 years, London weathers it much better than the rest of the UK generally. IMO, once the uncertainty and the ugliness of brexit is over, then London will start looking attractive again for a lot of people. market is heading south but it'll look more like a correction than a crash. Impossible to tell, so it's all just guesswork at this stage.
When the law firms can’t sell services and the money managers need to be based elsewhere it all gets a bit tricky...At this stage the only certainty is that the frictionless trade in services and the ability to attract european talent is severely curtailed so what does that mean for London? Singapore on Thames will take quite some structural and huge changes as well and several years to bear fruit.
And that’s without a socialist govt running the shop. I’m hoping it’ll be a relatively minor derailment but given the series of poor decisions and in fighting that has happened since 23rd of June 2016 assuming it’ll all be fine in a year or two looks decidedly optimistic when previously it was more a middle of the road reasonable view.
At least you’ll have your passport and sterling debt Shrap!Last edited by V for Vendetta; 31-07-18, 11:51.‘IF YOU had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.” Genghis Khan
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People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostYeah the type of jobs we'll get are very different to the ones that will be lost. There's so little effort to really market Irish agri on the continent. Like you'd go through a giant hypermarket here and not see a single Irish agri product.
The Irish gov running a budget deficit due to paying ridic wage increases to public sector is madness. Also they seem to have stopped all attempts at reform - property tax stalled, cutting USC which was a decent attempt at making sure everyone paid at least something, and no institutional reform (like the obvious ideas of merging revenue + social welfare, getting rid of semi states).
Remember water charges?"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostThat's what The Great Irish Voting Public demand!
Remember water charges?
Most people seem to agree that the marginal rate is the place to make adjustments if anywhere. A lot of people also seem happy enough with the idea of paying chunky amounts of tax if we could get value for the money in terms of services.
I'm pretty sure Fine Gael's polling strengthened considerably in the 12 months since they said they were no longer planning to abolish USC. Honestly I see very little commentary anywhere clamouring for it to be cut.
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Just catching up on the BBV. Can't help but feel that between discussing David Kitt and his Dad, his main point was totally overlooked. Taking out the blame bit, he has a point. Large chunks of creativity are being lost in the city and if prices and policy keep going in the direction that they are, it will get even worse.
Off the top of my head, we've lost the following creative spaces in the last few years which is a shame. I'm sure there are more.
Exchange
Mabo's (now Air BnB HQ)
Joinery
Moxie
Monster Truck
The Factory
I've no clue of David Kitt's personal life or political beliefs (and don't really care) but one thing that always bugged me was that he wasn't more successful than he was. He's a fantastic musician IMO and he still has one of my all time favourite lines in a song.
The song is 'Say No More' and it's from his 2006 album Not Fade Away. It's 7 simple words that creates such a vivid tapestry of images which for me is what every good song writer should be able to do
'Got whiskey drunk, got into a fight'
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Originally posted by Lao Lao View PostJust catching up on the BBV. Can't help but feel that between discussing David Kitt and his Dad, his main point was totally overlooked. Taking out the blame bit, he has a point. Large chunks of creativity are being lost in the city and if prices and policy keep going in the direction that they are, it will get even worse.
Off the top of my head, we've lost the following creative spaces in the last few years which is a shame. I'm sure there are more.
Exchange
Mabo's (now Air BnB HQ)
Joinery
Moxie
Monster Truck
The Factory
I've no clue of David Kitt's personal life or political beliefs (and don't really care) but one thing that always bugged me was that he wasn't more successful than he was. He's a fantastic musician IMO and he still has one of my all time favourite lines in a song.
The song is 'Say No More' and it's from his 2006 album Not Fade Away. It's 7 simple words that creates such a vivid tapestry of images which for me is what every good song writer should be able to do
'Got whiskey drunk, got into a fight'
Surprised such standard country lyrics evoked such a reaction tbh. The rest of your post is fair enough
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostYeah the type of jobs we'll get are very different to the ones that will be lost. There's so little effort to really market Irish agri on the continent. Like you'd go through a giant hypermarket here and not see a single Irish agri product.
The Irish gov running a budget deficit due to paying ridic wage increases to public sector is madness. Also they seem to have stopped all attempts at reform - property tax stalled, cutting USC which was a decent attempt at making sure everyone paid at least something, and no institutional reform (like the obvious ideas of merging revenue + social welfare, getting rid of semi states).
In terms of optics they will want to see the uk crumble and the eu countries continue as if nothing happened in the short term. In the medium term the uk will have signed to return everything to the way it currently is but having paid a lot for it.
Brexit is national politics where you just have to make promises but it’s a big jump to the international political stage where they are finding out nobody wants to help fulfill them.
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