Bad beat/Moaning/Venting thread - Mammy told me not to come.

[DeadParrot]

It's snowing

[balfejohn]

I wouldn't be of FF political persuasion but I've always been impressed with Malcolm Byrne, he won the by-election, was a sitting TD for 8 days, and now loses out in this election. At least he will have the pension. Strikes me as a good egg.

Not sure about pension , has he not to be in situ for more than a few months

[Solksjaer!]

Not sure about pension , has he not to be in situ for more than a few months

Why are people worried about his fecking pension. Get another job.

[mcnugget]

They've one in Waterford as well.

And Carlow/Kilkenny

[Lao Lao]

3 days & 2 nights of a Hag (stag and hen combined) in Barcelona has me a broken man.

It was a very, very good idea to take today off to recover.

Mondays can be such a chore...

SPOILER

[Guest]

The Greens in with a shout of 2 more in Wicklow and Dublin South-West, 12 would be a great haul for them.

[DeadParrot]

3 days & 2 nights of a Hag (stag and hen combined) in Barcelona has me a broken man.

It was a very, very good idea to take today off to recover.

Mondays can be such a chore...

SPOILER

Where is this.
Looks like heaven

[gorrrr72]

So you are saying there is a 0% chance they will ever go into government without an overall majority.
Because despite your crowing and hubris they have captured 1/4 of the popular vote and less than 25% of the seats and even FF are not going to let them implement a manifesto to bankrupt the country inside three years.

Ah sure we've been bankrupt before, I wouldn't worry about it.

[mcnugget]

The Greens in with a shout of 2 more in Wicklow and Dublin South-West, 12 would be a great haul for them.

It's a poor performance imo that they couldn't capture a lot more, in the context of a huge voter appetite for change and an unprecedented ecological crisis. If they couldn't strike it big this time it's hard to see how they can ever be relevant.

[Solksjaer!]

Story

https://www.facebook.com/390174511192698/posts/1232113033665504/

[Guest]

It's a poor performance imo that they couldn't capture a lot more, in the context of a huge voter appetite for change and an unprecedented ecological crisis. If they couldn't strike it big this time it's hard to see how they can ever be relevant.

I'm not sure I agree with that. How many seats would you deem as successful then?

I think any party that goes from 2 representatives to possibly 12 representatives has clearly made significant inroads.

Look how long it has taken SF to make an impact, I think the Greens have done quite well.

[The Situation]

Can't imagine the more reasonable among the new SF supporters feel too enamored by David Cullinane's antics. Doesn't take long for the mask to slip.

[Lazare]

Can't imagine the more reasonable among the new SF supporters feel too enamored by David Cullinane's antics. Doesn't take long for the mask to slip.

Were you listening to Matt Cooper when it was sprung on him?

Great radio.

[Arazi]

Were you listening to Matt Cooper when it was sprung on him?

Great radio.

Not as good as watching Marylou get setup live in the studio on Six One

[The Aul Switcharoo]

Cullinane just pissed away his Ministerial job tbh. I just seen the video on WhatsApp. Proper genius

[Arazi]

Cullinane just pissed away his Ministerial job tbh. I just seen the video on WhatsApp. Proper genius

Yeah there you go Lucky Lloyd ya big dope, that’s what ye elected.

[The Situation]

Were you listening to Matt Cooper when it was sprung on him?

Great radio.

Yeah he wasnt backing away from comments, given the party a huge headache now you'd imagine.

In other news looking like Sinn Fein are actually gonna tie for most seats now which is fairly incredible considering how little candidates they ran relatively, was still over 50/1 on betfair a few days ago.

[Lazare]

Not as good as watching Marylou get setup live in the studio on Six One

What was that?

[Strewelpeter]

Anyone got a link to the court case where Dessie Ellis got convicted of all those murders?
I’m bad at google and can only find something about him getting acquitted of explosives charges by an English jury
Thanks guys

Like so many of these hero's there was no court date.

This is one of the more cowardly adventures he has been widely alleged to have been involved in


Hyde park bombing
11 young Bandsmen armed with nothing more than their musical instruments were slaughtered from a safe distance by a hero with a remote control and a smirk on his face.


I wouldn't have brought this up but no matter how much the apologists and fellow travellers want to sweep it under the carpet, this is who Sinn Fein IRA are. In truth by the time of this cowardly attack it was all a complete and utter lie that was nothing more than a self perpetuating criminal racket funnelling money to a mob. But as Cullinane made it clear today 'They haven't gone away you know'

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[Arazi]

What was that?

she was in the studio being asked about formation of the next Gov etc, the presenter asked her to comment on Martin Cullinane being recorded signing "Up the Ra" in a Waterford pub the previous night, Marylou obviously had no knowledge of it and you could see that she was livid with the Presenter - she refused to comment but she guessed out loud that he must have only been signing Celtic Symphony.

[Guest]

Cullinane just pissed away his Ministerial job tbh. I just seen the video on WhatsApp. Proper genius

Dont be so sure, perhaps himself and Ellis were simply putting forward audition tapes for roles.

I can't wait to see if Pearse Doherty or others come forward with a rousing Republican speech or a nice rebel song that they might serenade us with.

[Dice75]

she was in the studio being asked about formation of the next Gov etc, the presenter asked her to comment on Martin Cullinane being recorded signing "Up the Ra" in a Waterford pub the previous night, Marylou obviously had no knowledge of it and you could see that she was livid with the Presenter - she refused to comment but she guessed out loud that he must have only been signing Celtic Symphony.

Clearly making an early play for Flanagans Post

[balfejohn]

Like so many of these hero's there was no court date.

This is one of the more cowardly adventures he has been widely alleged to have been involved in


Hyde park bombing
11 young Bandsmen armed with nothing more than their musical instruments were slaughtered from a safe distance by a hero with a remote control and a smirk on his face.


I wouldn't have brought this up but no matter how much the apologists and fellow travellers want to sweep it under the carpet, this is who Sinn Fein IRA are. In truth by the time of this cowardly attack it was all a complete and utter lie that was nothing more than a self perpetuating criminal racket funnelling money to a mob. But as Cullinane made it clear today 'They haven't gone away you know'

Unfortunately most 18-35 years that voted in the shinners don’t give a fuck about old atrocities must the same as we don’t give a fuck about past world wars and senseless killing in the good old us of a.
They listened to the same shite we have been living off for the last 20 years and said fuck it nobody is telling us what to do anymore
A big left move has left us in the middle of a pile of shite which will take a lot of work to bring it back to the centre field

[Lazare]

Seriously tho

Ask stupid questions, get stupid answers.

[paul8200]

https://twitter.com/olivercallan/status/1226639106979106817?s=21

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[LuckyLloyd]

Yeah there you go Lucky Lloyd ya big dope, that’s what ye elected.

Well given FF will have to accept an equal partnership and a rotating Taoiseach now to do a deal ye might all get another craic at it soon enough.

If Donnelly makes it: FF38 / SF37. If he doesn't it's a tie.

[Guest]

Well given FF will have to accept an equal partnership and a rotating Taoiseach now to do a deal ye might all get another craic at it soon enough.

If Donnelly makes it: FF38 / SF37. If he doesn't it's a tie.

38 for certain and 1 more possible for FF, it won't be a tie.

[LuckyLloyd]

38 for certain and 1 more possible for FF, it won't be a tie.

They have 34 (including the CC)

1 in Sligo / Leitrim (35)
2 in Cavan / Monaghan (37)
1 in Wicklow, donnelly (38)

What am I missing?

[Guest]

They have 34 (including the CC)

1 in Sligo / Leitrim (35)
2 in Cavan / Monaghan (37)
1 in Wicklow, donnelly (38)

What am I missing?

I suspect it must be 2 in Sligo/Leitrim.

With 2 seats remaining, last count was

9891 FF
8409 FF
7231 FG

That was per Gavan Reilly an hour ago.

[LuckyLloyd]

I suspect it must be 2 in Sligo/Leitrim.

With 2 seats remaining, last count was

9891 FF
8409 FF
7231 FG

That was per Gavan Reilly an hour ago.

Gotcha. Yeah Walsh was just eliminated (the second FG candidate) and his 6k votes are being distributed so I expect Feighan will make up the 1200 deficit and nab that last seat...

[ArmaniJeans]

I suspect it must be 2 in Sligo/Leitrim.

With 2 seats remaining, last count was

9891 FF
8409 FF
7231 FG

That was per Gavan Reilly an hour ago.

The next/final distribution is 6K votes from just-eliminated FG2 which will push the remaining FG a good way ahead of one of the FFers.
Unless there's some geographical angle I'm missing, as the constituency has bits of 4 counties,

[Guest]

The next/final distribution is 6K votes from just-eliminated FG2 which will push the remaining FG a good way ahead of one of the FFers.
Unless there's some geographical angle I'm missing seeing as the constituency has bits of 4 counties,

Yeah certainly looks that way. I looked at a couple of his replies now and he just said FF 38 so 39 looks out of sight.

[Kayroo]

Well given FF will have to accept an equal partnership and a rotating Taoiseach now to do a deal ye might all get another craic at it soon enough.

If Donnelly makes it: FF38 / SF37. If he doesn't it's a tie.

Can’t rotate the office of Taoiseach

[premierstone]

Can’t rotate the office of Taoiseach

Really? It was discussed extensively in the 2016 negotiations. I'm not for a minute doubting you but it certainly wouldn't reflect well on Leo and Mehole if true!

[LuckyLloyd]

Can’t rotate the office of Taoiseach

Was discussed at length in 2016.

[Kayroo]

Really? It was discussed extensively in the 2016 negotiations. I'm not for a minute doubting you but it certainly wouldn't reflect well on Leo and Mehole if true!

If the Taoiseach resigns the entire government automatically resigns. Then the Dail would need to have a fresh vote to appoint a new Taoiseach like when Enda stepped down, Bertie stepped down etc.

That works when there’s a strong coalition. But where it’s changing the reins of power from one party to the other then it’s infinitely more dangerous to do because the party who takes the office of the Taoiseach first can go to the electorate whenever they like and the Taoiseach cannot be forced to resign save by vote of no confidence.

I suppose it’s technically possible to move the office back and forth but I don’t think any 2 parties out of SF, FF and FG trust each other enough to be able to make it work and particularly so where the power dynamic is so asymmetrical in favour of the party who takes it first.

[Kayroo]

Was discussed at length in 2016.

There’s a reason they didn’t do it in the end

[LuckyLloyd]

Fair enough, buckle up for another election so.

[premierstone]

Ah but surely anyone backing out of a publically agreed pact would be committing political suicide, would never happen.

[LuckyLloyd]

I mean, that's the only way this thing will work. SF and FF are equals and whatever deal they do will need to reflect that, while they both cede concessions to the Greens for their support. We haven't seen a coalition like this before and if FF can't stomach it that's fine - let's dance.

[Theresa]

Ah but surely anyone backing out of a publically agreed pact would be committing political suicide, would never happen.

Suppose it depends on the public sentiment at the time.

[Kayroo]

Ah but surely anyone backing out of a publically agreed pact would be committing political suicide, would never happen.

Hold the office for two and a half years each is the agreement. FF hold it first for example and then when a convenient crisis wanders along they use it as a point of principle to pull the plug and have a general election. Wouldn’t be committing political suicide at all, particularly if they play it right in the build up.

Likewise if SF take the reins first. The law as it stands just doesn’t really make a rotating Taoiseach possible in the way county councils can manage it. It is certainly technically possible, but I think it’s practically unworkable

[Raoul Duke III]

Cheered myself up by avoiding the news all day and then defeating some colleagues at darts. Dedicated the victory to the EU.

What's happening back on the isle?

[elbows]

Cheered myself up by avoiding the news all day and then defeating some colleagues at darts. Dedicated the victory to the EU.

What's happening back on the isle?

All the prods are being rounded up and sent to the North.

[Strewelpeter]

Cheered myself up by avoiding the news all day and then defeating some colleagues at darts. Dedicated the victory to the EU.

What's happening back on the isle?

The mask has slipped already.
Deeply unpleasant mood abroad as the true believers confuse a less than 25% share of the seats in the Dail with an overall majority with a level of hubris and gloating is making the brexitards look modest. .


Hello Mary Lou, goodbye Google, Apple, facebook ...

[Raoul Duke III]

All the prods are being rounded up and sent to the North.

Good idea. The RA have all the best songs anyway.

[Guest]

This was 20 mins ago but some returns since and I'm not sure now that 38 is a lock.

With transfers to FG2 and two seats remaining with 2 FF in the lead it may end up 37/37/36

[premierstone]

Hold the office for two and a half years each is the agreement. FF hold it first for example and then when a convenient crisis wanders along they use it as a point of principle to pull the plug and have a general election. Wouldn’t be committing political suicide at all, particularly if they play it right in the build up.



Likewise if SF take the reins first. The law as it stands just doesn’t really make a rotating Taoiseach possible in the way county councils can manage it. It is certainly technically possible, but I think it’s practically unworkable

Agree with your logic, I thought originally you were suggesting it was unconstitutional in some way.

Lot of shadow boxing to go here yet, but in reality its either SF/FF/Green or a second election imo

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[Lao Lao]

Where is this.

Looks like heaven

Loose Cannon on Drury St. Nice little spot, a bit on the pricey side but you have to treat yourself every so often!

[ComradeCollie]

Jordan Peterson getting help in Russia for his Benzo problem. Suspected there was more to his weight loss than just eating piles of beef. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/...-russia-a69219

[ComradeCollie]

Snowing now.

[Lazare]

Snowing now.

Have an appointment in Enniskerry at 10am. Guess I won't be taking the mountain route.

[ArmaniJeans]

Snowing now.

Not much bloody use if you don't tell us exactly where you are, how many metres above sea level that is, how much snow it is, what the dew point is.

[ArmaniJeans]

Sorry, though I was on boards weather forum.

[DeadParrot]

Me father in law is coming up to 48 hours on a trolley in A&E with a lung infection post triple bypass.
The anger is real.

[Keane]

Realistically has to be a rotating taoiseach, or something of equals, given SF is at least the same as FF. One seat less and nearly 3% ahead in public support.

tbh I think the taoiseach role is a dodgy one, as whichever party gets it will have to give up so many actually influential positions for its dubious status.

And its definitely not going to be FF/FG/Greens? Strikes me that that would make way more sense given the two parties are largely the same. Why do centre-extremeleft when you can do centre-centre?

They're thinking all about party now rather than what makes sense for the country I think. In fairness they're due some credit for doing the opposite the last time we were in this position.

I suspect they know coalition with FG would be the end of everything as FG have the better policies and smarter people. What would the likes of Michael McGrath expect when there's a Paschal on the other side? And he might be the best of them.

[Strewelpeter]

Me father in law is coming up to 48 hours on a trolley in A&E with a lung infection post triple bypass.
The anger is real.

GL, that's a horrible place to be

[DeadParrot]

GL, that's a horrible place to be

James' too.
Fucking hellhole.
It's poxy that a trap of geography where are when you call the ambulance locks you into a place.

After nearly 3 weeks in the beacon for the op, it's night and day. He'll lying in a cubicle with two junkies screaming for their fye