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Originally posted by Lazare View PostA big mouth is handy for puking.
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Candidate in Tipperary dies, and in surely one of the most strange bits of legislation on the books, the election in that constituency won't go ahead until a later date.
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Originally posted by shrapnel View Posteven quicker is to boil the water in the kettle first, then transferLast edited by RichieM; 03-02-20, 19:16.
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostMary Lou: 'I'm going to get a United Ireland and the Brits are going to pay for it'
Decent LOL
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Originally posted by paul8200 View Postand I believe it has way more to go...... in the coming years
Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt
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Originally posted by Wombatman View PostThis may or may not be an original thought of my own.
All efforts were made to make this thought original but with the abundance of thoughts in the world the originality of this thought cannot be guaranteed.
The author is not liable for any issue arising from the platitudinous nature of this post.
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Originally posted by RichieM View PostMy mum had her kitchen done up and put in a tap that runs through an element and is always boiling water. If I didn’t have a baby who would end up scalded I would definitely get one.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Wombatman View Post
SpaceX - technology sharing such as large welds meaning less weak points and stronger and lighter chassis and frames
Tesla insurance - just underwriting his software which he believes in
Solar - will become big
Robotaxis - Uber killer
battery innovation - leading the way
software options - with hardware installed anyway the scale here brings in big money
trucks and haulage - next big venture, AI can now get trucks to just tailgate each other - meaning massive efficiency gains vs driving hours for humans even ignoring the fuel savings
others
Superchargers - massive investment and becoming another 'power' utility
data - how many crimes will be evidenced by a Tesla as their market grows.
- selling consumer behavior data
pace of innovation - has made them what they are today re software updates in days following good customer suggestions
risks - yes there will be fuck ups - accidents that become high profile - however these are limited since we all know what fuck ups around the world get behind a wheel today
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Originally posted by paul8200 View PostAI - will be first to real autonomous - has billions of miles of data, closest competitor has millions
SpaceX - technology sharing such as large welds meaning less weak points and stronger and lighter chassis and frames
Tesla insurance - just underwriting his software which he believes in
Solar - will become big
Robotaxis - Uber killer
battery innovation - leading the way
software options - with hardware installed anyway the scale here brings in big money
trucks and haulage - next big venture, AI can now get trucks to just tailgate each other - meaning massive efficiency gains vs driving hours for humans even ignoring the fuel savings
others
Superchargers - massive investment and becoming another 'power' utility
data - how many crimes will be evidenced by a Tesla as their market grows.
- selling consumer behavior data
pace of innovation - has made them what they are today re software updates in days following good customer suggestions
risks - yes there will be fuck ups - accidents that become high profile - however these are limited since we all know what fuck ups around the world get behind a wheel today
Tesla has billions of miles of what data that their competitors don't have?
Tesla delivered 360,000 units or so in 2019 and own 1.3% of the US automotive market.
Even if they did possess more data than their rivals, how long would it take rivals to catch up if some have 10x the market share?
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Originally posted by Murdrum View Postthe long term irredentist goals of Sinn Fein, along with their original position on abortion is hardly the position of progressives.
irredentist
/ˌɪrɪˈdɛntɪst/
noun
a person advocating the restoration to their country of any territory formerly belonging to it.
HISTORICAL
(in 19th-century Italian politics) an advocate of the return to Italy of all Italian-speaking districts subject to other countriesTurning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostNew word for me, doesn't happen too often these days good one too, cheers.
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Originally posted by Murdrum View PostWe are at least a generation away from autonomous cars to the masses.
Tesla has billions of miles of what data that their competitors don't have?
Tesla delivered 360,000 units or so in 2019 and own 1.3% of the US automotive market.
Even if they did possess more data than their rivals, how long would it take rivals to catch up if some have 10x the market share?
tesla sell everything they can make. scaling will be interesting. could toyota build a factory to production using new lines in 10 months?
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Originally posted by paul8200 View Posteach to their own. those that have 10x market share have not been innovating. let it play out.
tesla sell everything they can make. scaling will be interesting. could toyota build a factory to production using new lines in 10 months?
I suspect their resources could be better directed elsewhere given they're already in place.
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Originally posted by Murdrum View PostDo they need to?
I suspect their resources could be better directed elsewhere given they're already in place.
Tesla is the first non Chinese majority owned company to build a large factory there - in the worlds biggest car market, with all of the advantages that does with locally produced
Are you arguing Toyota will be larger than Tesla in 5 years?
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostDoes the higher share price directly help Tesla get more product on the streets ?
The list of advantages people give to Tesla is impressive until you look into them.
The data they've collected is mostly useless, and their approach for autonomous driving is way behind the likes of Waymo and Ford. FSD has just been a way to con their customers into providing cheap working capital.
Solar City was a fraudulent product.
And Tesla insurance only exists because insurance companies don't want to insure them.
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Originally posted by ArmaniJeans View PostThe 14th button from the left on the row above where you type. Its like a mountain with the sun over it.
here
Last edited by DeadParrot; 03-02-20, 22:38.People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by newbie2 View PostSF - 25%
FF - 23%
FG - 20%
GP - 8%People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by paul8200 View Postif they start building the cars of the future they will -
Tesla is the first non Chinese majority owned company to build a large factory there - in the worlds biggest car market, with all of the advantages that does with locally produced
Are you arguing Toyota will be larger than Tesla in 5 years?
I asked about the data because I don't understand what data you're referring to and how others can't obtain similar.
Also, I question how valuable being a leader in AI is given I suspect we're a generation away from it's widespread application.
That said, Toyota does have a 30% bigger market cap than Tesla so probably a pretty safe bet that they'll be bigger in 5 years as of today.
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostWon't translate into either votes or seats.
Even with some normal fall-off on the day it does suggest they will have near enough to gain a quota in most constituencies. Something like 19% is a lock in 4 and 5 seaters.
Fwiw they opinion-polled 14.9% in the last Irish Times poll in 2016 and got 13.8% on the day, so the fall-off may not be as great as we might think.
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Originally posted by Murdrum View PostWhere did I say that? You brought up Toyota.
I asked about the data because I don't understand what data you're referring to and how others can't obtain similar.
Also, I question how valuable being a leader in AI is given I suspect we're a generation away from it's widespread application.
That said, Toyota does have a 30% bigger market cap than Tesla so probably a pretty safe bet that they'll be bigger in 5 years as of today.
the data is their sensor and camera data re billions of miles driven, which puts everyone else way behind. and they are not locked into location maps like others either. it's real world.
that sounds like a 50 yoyo bet re Tesla vs Toyota if you fancy
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Originally posted by paul8200 View Postfor every bear there is a bull. that's fine.
the data is their sensor and camera data re billions of miles driven, which puts everyone else way behind. and they are not locked into location maps like others either. it's real world.
that sounds like a 50 yoyo bet re Tesla vs Toyota if you fancy
On the point above, the "billions of miles of data" seem irrelevant to me if others can catch up rather quickly given their current market share.
I know Denny is very knowledgable on the subject and if he thinks Ford is way ahead in the domain of autonomous driving, I'm happy enough to accept that given you didn't give me an answer.
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Originally posted by ArmaniJeans View Post25% would be theoretically 40 seats but they are only standing 42 candidates so it's almost impossible for it to turn into seats alright.
Even with some normal fall-off on the day it does suggest they will have near enough to gain a quota in most constituencies. Something like 19% is a lock in 4 and 5 seaters.
Fwiw they opinion-polled 14.9% in the last Irish Times poll in 2016 and got 13.8% on the day, so the fall-off may not be as great as we might think.
You would think the polling companies have been attempting to adjust their results for the SF underperform/FF overperform.
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Originally posted by Murdrum View PostI know Denny is very knowledgable on the subject and if he thinks Ford is way ahead in the domain of autonomous driving, I'm happy enough to accept thatGone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.
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Originally posted by Hectorjelly View PostHe must have made millions shorting them recently
It's Denny's field and he has clearly done the research to support his position irrespective of the outcome.
As Collie rightly said, predicting the madness of crowds is near to impossible.
I have no issue with Musk & Tesla going to the moon both figuratively and literally, there was just nothing in what Paul said/showed that made me think Tesla has an edge not easily diminished.
I think we might not live to see the widespread application of autonomous cars given that even in the event the tech existed, it would require widespread application so that humans wouldn't interfere, government's would need to agree in light of millions being out of work, it's a mammoth political task let alone technological.
Also, on the superior volume of data that Tesla has, I think it can be easy caught up with because other companies cumulatively drive far greater distances than Tesla based on current market share. If the tech exists(is better according to Denny) for someone like Ford, they can catch up with Tesla at an exponential rate.
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There should be an inquest into the manner in which Irish Times conducts their surveys. They had Peter Casey at 2% for a long time in the presidential election with a small margin of error. SF figures seem wildly inflated this time, like all the people were sampled in a dole queue in Ballymun.Profit before people.
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Originally posted by Murdrum View PostSame as any form of gambling where you have an edge I guess, variance is inevitable.
It's Denny's field and he has clearly done the research to support his position irrespective of the outcome.
As Collie rightly said, predicting the madness of crowds is near to impossible.
I have no issue with Musk & Tesla going to the moon both figuratively and literally, there was just nothing in what Paul said/showed that made me think Tesla has an edge not easily diminished.
I think we might not live to see the widespread application of autonomous cars given that even in the event the tech existed, it would require widespread application so that humans wouldn't interfere, government's would need to agree in light of millions being out of work, it's a mammoth political task let alone technological.
Also, on the superior volume of data that Tesla has, I think it can be easy caught up with because other companies cumulatively drive far greater distances than Tesla based on current market share. If the tech exists(is better according to Denny) for someone like Ford, they can catch up with Tesla at an exponential rate.
I don't have any opinion on Tesla as such, I think it's unlikely anyone person could develop an opinion that would be worth much, even if you devoted your entire life to it. What you certainly can do, and I think Denny and Paul are guilty of, is developing an opinion based on a relatively small amount of information and then using confirmation bias to cement that opinion into their psyche. The sad thing is one of them will turn out to be right and will think it validates their reasoning.
Just on the autonomous driving, I think we will see it - you're right about the large impact, but as a species we always introduce new technology and worry about the consequences afterwards, I doubt this time will be any different.
The whole TESLA thing is quite a story, I'm sure it will be an incredible story for future generations, either folly or genius.
Elon recently released a track: Don't doubt your vibe
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Originally posted by The Situation View PostThere should be an inquest into the manner in which Irish Times conducts their surveys. They had Peter Casey at 2% for a long time in the presidential election with a small margin of error. SF figures seem wildly inflated this time, like all the people were sampled in a dole queue in Ballymun.
IPSOS have been around for decades and seem to have a decent reputation (though I know little about the industry and it could be very corrupt)
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Originally posted by ComradeCollie View PostThough I'm still amazed that Apple ever became more than a niche company for ponces.
Ponces are just about the biggest demographic on the planet and Apple own that nicheTurning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Hectorjelly View PostWhat you certainly can do, and I think Denny and Paul are guilty of, is developing an opinion based on a relatively small amount of information and then using confirmation bias to cement that opinion into their psyche.
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Originally posted by Denny Crane View Post
Originally posted by Hectorjelly View PostVietnam certaily know how to deal with the bankers:
https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-04-...CjgcMNAP7ocOcY
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Originally posted by pokerhand View PostSo you don't think there is any situation where capital punishment is deserved?
Thankfully we live in a more enlightened state."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostIt's 2020. Executions are something from the dark ages and countries that allow them are less evolved, not to say barbaric.
Thankfully we live in a more enlightened state.No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity, but I know none, therefore am no beast.
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Originally posted by pokerhand View PostSo you don't think there is any situation where capital punishment is deserved?
Even if it is deserved we still should not countenance doing it.
It’s also Ineffective as a deterrent, more expensive than prison (which is really saying something) and the risk of getting it wrong is not worth ever EVER getting it right.You are technically correct...the best kind of correct
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Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post
Here I'll attach a tweet instead
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