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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Postisn't he a MMA type? Hardly surprising in that case when you look at the other world class gobshites that inhabit that particular universePeople say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Postisn't he a MMA type? Hardly surprising in that case when you look at the other world class gobshites that inhabit that particular universeairport, lol
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Anyone hear that Audio sent to Drogheda Gardai ?, apparently some big stuff gonna go down in relation to the recent body chopping of the poor young thug.
I do hope they keep it amongst themselves . To quote –there is gonna be fucking murder this weekend. Be careful who you buy your Charlie from in the coming days.
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Originally posted by eamonhonda View PostI dont think that would be fair on most MMA types. Gobshites in all walks of life, and good folk in all walks too"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Enjoying the bit of banter bout "oul lads" above! I would, by any standard, fall in to that category by dint of my physical age (60+), although I think there is an attitudinal aspect as well - I know, as I'm sure we all do, people who were oul lads from when they were 13. Unfortunately we can't escape the passage of time, but in other ways (keeping up eg with trends in whatever hobbies etc we like; keeping up with current affairs; trying our best to have a range of friends/acquaintances across various age ranges - without gettin creepy about it!; etc) can try and stay abreast of things. From about my late-30's, I think I regarded an "oul fella" age group as people who were at least 10 years older than me; at this stage in my life though, I think I have to revise that down to 5 years older than me! That's not to even touch on the topic of "oul wans"! Much more controversial maybe. It's largely down to ones own opinion I guess ... it all reminds me, on a different but probably related topic, of the best definition of an alcoholic I've ever come across - "an alcoholic is someone that you don't like, who drinks as much as you do..."!
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Was out having a pint with a mate last night and he cracked me up with this one.
Bar was shut and the manager was pottering about behind the bar. Mate whispers to him 'psst, scuse me, would there be any chance of a late drink'
Manager walks over to us and says 'sure, ok, what would you like?'
'Two Harvey Wallbangers please'I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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How is it racist and homophobic to be of the belief that you need to be fully immersed in our heritage and culture and to be a family man/woman in order to lead our nation? I can slightly buy the latter but not the former. It is his opinion, it may be wrong but it’s not racist. Also, he may actually be racist but he’s not racist for having that opinion.
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Originally posted by Denny Crane View PostWhat's the rounder123 take on the Drawda situation?
(I see Probus is gone btw, looks like the building (probus + the old mazzonis) is being redeveloped.
Regards Drawda it was an accident waiting to happen with the influx in population and the large scale stop on Garda recruitment around 2014. They barely had a garda station the nearest one Balbriggan. What a joke. No wonder the heads started taking over. If theres no visible Garda presence this will happen. And theres no use putting a bunch of young recruits in Drogheda thats next to useless. They need to deal with it like they did with the Dundons in Limerick. Just mither then with constant stop and searches.
And its happening again with Swords, Lusk and Rush. Swords is a rapidly growing and sprawling suburb and they have 2 cars and scant garda cover for the whole of it, a complete joke. No Gards station in Lusk and Rush which are 2 areas also both expanding and the nearest station is Balbriggan.
Probus finally gone yeah, was slated to go a few years ago so surprised it clung on so long.
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Originally posted by Arazi View PostHow is it racist and homophobic to be of the belief that you need to be fully immersed in our heritage and culture and to be a family man/woman in order to lead our nation? I can slightly buy the latter but not the former. It is his opinion, it may be wrong but it’s not racist. Also, he may actually be racist but he’s not racist for having that opinion.
Don't see any room for ambiguity thereTurning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Arazi View PostHow is it racist and homophobic to be of the belief that you need to be fully immersed in our heritage and culture and to be a family man/woman in order to lead our nation? I can slightly buy the latter but not the former. It is his opinion, it may be wrong but it’s not racist. Also, he may actually be racist but he’s not racist for having that opinion.
But if what he's trying to say is 'must be fully immersed in our heritage and culture' to lead the country well, then we're straight away saying there's some inherent quality in 'pure' Irish people that allows them to lead the nation properly that's unavailable to halvsies. What that ineffable quality might be I honestly couldn't imagine.
I'm very ambivalent about Varadkar, if not hostile towards him, but I find it hard to believe any issues I disagree with him on are things he doesn't get because he's half Indian while I being a pure and true Paddy know them but can't explain them.
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Originally posted by Arazi View PostHow is it racist and homophobic to be of the belief that you need to be fully immersed in our heritage and culture and to be a family man/woman in order to lead our nation? I can slightly buy the latter but not the former. It is his opinion, it may be wrong but it’s not racist. Also, he may actually be racist but he’s not racist for having that opinion.This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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Originally posted by Keane View PostWhat would the definition of "fully immersed in our heritage and culture" be, and why would it be needed to lead the nation? Varadkar is currently leading the nation with his mixed heritage, so it's obviously a false premise anyway.
But if what he's trying to say is 'must be fully immersed in our heritage and culture' to lead the country well, then we're straight away saying there's some inherent quality in 'pure' Irish people that allows them to lead the nation properly that's unavailable to halvsies. What that ineffable quality might be I honestly couldn't imagine.
I'm very ambivalent about Varadkar, if not hostile towards him, but I find it hard to believe any issues I disagree with him on are things he doesn't get because he's half Indian while I being a pure and true Paddy know them but can't explain them.This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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Originally posted by Murdrum View PostBorn and bred in the Kingdom obvThis may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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That being said I dont think there is any real want or will to rid drugs in Ireland or any country. If there was you would think you would be able to achieve to stop the supply inside a compound such as a prison!. So if you cant stop drugs getting into a prison then good luck trying to stop the supply around the streets of a country in general.
They know they have to let it happen to keep the peace both inside and outside prisons.
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Originally posted by Keane View PostI mean, I think the whole premise is totally flawed but I guess it's someone who is fully immersed in our identity and culture!Originally posted by Theresa View PostDefine "fully immersed in our culture and heritage".This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostWhat he was saying is that Leo couldn't have the same passion as he has for Ireland because his great grandfather is Indian.
Don't see any room for ambiguity there
Could he not just say 'because he's got brown skin'. That's what he means after all."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Solksjaer! View PostThread title change to reflect ol lad demographic. ?People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Murdrum View PostStill a few young lads around, no change required yet.People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostBit like I dunno.....Eamon de Valera then?
Could he not just say 'because he's got brown skin'. That's what he means after all.People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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*Solks joke*
If the song red red wine reminds you of your childhood
UB40 nowPeople say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostOnly started last night. Its very smart. Was up and running in about a minute.Originally posted by Denny Crane View PostDo you use Grammarly professionally Hitch? I've only ever seen ads for it, never tried it.
Originally posted by oleras View PostYou up to date with Vikings ? ?
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostWho do you find gets the most use out of it - halfway decent writers or poor writers? Same for Pro Writing Aid. Just wondering the level they are pitched at best as thinking about taking out a site licence for the school.
Neither are really suitable for poor writers imo. You still need to have an idea what you are doing. They will obviously help, you they won't make a poor writer into Shakespeare! It will help puncuation big time though. Grammarly would be my pick in general. Far easier to work with, and the feedback is more concise.
ProWritingAid plugs into Word, and i mostly got it for the Plagiarism checker (which costs extra and doesn't even work...) I don't agree with a lot of the other prompts it gives you either. A lot of free tools do somerhing smilar, such as these two that i use quite a lot.
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Originally posted by Theresa View PostI know you think its ridiculous. But there is some nebulous definition out there amongst all Irish people, just interested to hear yours, and Arazi's.
If I was advertising a job I would put in the application the qualities, experience required and abilities that I am looking for in potential applicants. Yer man obviously feels that to lead our nation (be the Taoiseach) these traits in his opinion include someone who is fully aware of and empathises with Irish Nationalist history. Its his belief that Varadkar due to some foreign lineage is his past does not fit this criteria - that's quite a stretch - and to be honest as I read my own explanation does border on being racist.
However, I don't feel that someone who was born and raised in the UK, US, Australia etc has the right qualities to lead our nation regardless of how brilliant they are politically, socio-economically etc as I don't think they would be at one with us as a people. I don't believe we are a melting pot of cultures. I believe that when immigrants come to Ireland with other cultures they should strive to adapt to our laws and our society rather than the other way around. If that makes me racist in someone elses eyes so be it. I hope that explains.
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I see the snowflake brigade are well and truly alive in here. Paddy H is a moron and as far from a politician as you will find. His comments come across as racist but I dont believe that was the intent.
The problem these days is that everything, no matter how small or trivial is classified as racism. It becomes so common that people dont even take note anymore because they just view it as I did, snowflake bullshit. Real racism exists in this country in every section of society and from all sides. Dont confuse those who actually threaten the peace and stability of our society with a moron from Jobstown who just doesnt understand he needs to think before he speakspandapower99.blogspot.com
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Originally posted by Loki View PostI see the snowflake brigade are well and truly alive in here. Paddy H is a moron and as far from a politician as you will find. His comments come across as racist but I dont believe that was the intent.
The problem these days is that everything, no matter how small or trivial is classified as racism. It becomes so common that people dont even take note anymore because they just view it as I did, snowflake bullshit. Real racism exists in this country in every section of society and from all sides. Dont confuse those who actually threaten the peace and stability of our society with a moron from Jobstown who just doesnt understand he needs to think before he speaks
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Originally posted by Solksjaer! View PostGood luck to the child. Can't think of anything more harrowing that your child being so ill
Babies are unreal. They don't feel sorry for themselves or get depressed. They just get on with it. They know nothing other than to try survive. I can only speak for the care in the cardiac side of things and it is as good as it gets anywhere in the world. I'm sure CC's grandneice will be in the best hands possible and crush it like so many of these sick babies. They're the real tough men and women on the planet.
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Originally posted by Arazi View PostHowever, I don't feel that someone who was born and raised in the UK, US, Australia etc has the right qualities to lead our nation regardless of how brilliant they are politically, socio-economically etc as I don't think they would be at one with us as a people. I don't believe we are a melting pot of cultures. I believe that when immigrants come to Ireland with other cultures they should strive to adapt to our laws and our society rather than the other way around. If that makes me racist in someone elses eyes so be it. I hope that explains.
Cause that describes Eamon De Valera.
Your point really doesn't hold a huge amount of water. By the way Leo was born and raised here. Unlike Tom Clarke, James Connolly, Erskine Childers...You are technically correct...the best kind of correct
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Originally posted by Loki View PostI see the snowflake brigade are well and truly alive in here. Paddy H is a moron and as far from a politician as you will find. His comments come across as racist but I dont believe that was the intent.
The problem these days is that everything, no matter how small or trivial is classified as racism. It becomes so common that people dont even take note anymore because they just view it as I did, snowflake bullshit. Real racism exists in this country in every section of society and from all sides. Dont confuse those who actually threaten the peace and stability of our society with a moron from Jobstown who just doesnt understand he needs to think before he speaks
Get out of your bubble and listen to people who are living it. If you do you'll find that there are degrees experienced, from the trivial 'Where are you really from?' to verbal and physical assaults. Ignoring the casual everyday stuff allows the the cynical populist politician to inflame those who are a real threat.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Arazi View PostHere is all I am saying:
If I was advertising a job I would put in the application the qualities, experience required and abilities that I am looking for in potential applicants. Yer man obviously feels that to lead our nation (be the Taoiseach) these traits in his opinion include someone who is fully aware of and empathises with Irish Nationalist history. Its his belief that Varadkar due to some foreign lineage is his past does not fit this criteria - that's quite a stretch - and to be honest as I read my own explanation does border on being racist.
However, I don't feel that someone who was born and raised in the UK, US, Australia etc has the right qualities to lead our nation regardless of how brilliant they are politically, socio-economically etc as I don't think they would be at one with us as a people. I don't believe we are a melting pot of cultures. I believe that when immigrants come to Ireland with other cultures they should strive to adapt to our laws and our society rather than the other way around. If that makes me racist in someone elses eyes so be it. I hope that explains.
You have an Irish passport you are as Irish as me my great great grandfather, Fionn McCool or anyone else you can name.
Probably doesn't make much sense out of context but this bit from the Cyclops episode of Ulysses nails the argument from when the Holohan of his day was allowed be a casual anti semite as well.
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—But do you know what a nation means? says John Wyse.
—Yes, says Bloom.
—What is it? says John Wyse.
—A nation? says Bloom. A nation is the same people living in the same place.
—By God, then, says Ned, laughing, if that’s so I’m a nation for I’m living in the same place for the past five years.
So of course everyone had the laugh at Bloom and says he, trying to muck out of it:
—Or also living in different places.
—That covers my case, says Joe.
—What is your nation if I may ask? says the citizen.
—Ireland, says Bloom. I was born here. Ireland.
The citizen said nothing only cleared the spit out of his gullet and, gob, he spat a Red bank oyster out of him right in the corner.
—After you with the push, Joe, says he, taking out his handkerchief to swab himself dry.
—Here you are, citizen, says Joe. Take that in your right hand and repeat after me the following words.
The muchtreasured and intricately embroidered ancient Irish facecloth attributed to Solomon of Droma and Manus Tomaltach og MacDonogh, authors of the Book of Ballymote, was then carefully produced and called forth prolonged admiration. No need to dwell on the legendary beauty of the cornerpieces, the acme of art, wherein one can distinctly discern each of the four evangelists in turn presenting to each of the four masters his evangelical symbol, a bogoak sceptre, a North American puma (a far nobler king of beasts than the British article, be it said in passing), a Kerry calf and a golden eagle from Carrantuohill. The scenes depicted on the emunctory field, showing our ancient duns and raths and cromlechs and grianauns and seats of learning and maledictive stones, are as wonderfully beautiful and the pigments as delicate as when the Sligo illuminators gave free rein to their artistic fantasy long long ago in the time of the Barmecides. Glendalough, the lovely lakes of Killarney, the ruins of Clonmacnois, Cong Abbey, Glen Inagh and the Twelve Pins, Ireland’s Eye, the Green Hills of Tallaght, Croagh Patrick, the brewery of Messrs Arthur Guinness, Son and Company (Limited), Lough Neagh’s banks, the vale of Ovoca, Isolde’s tower, the Mapas obelisk, Sir Patrick Dun’s hospital, Cape Clear, the glen of Aherlow, Lynch’s castle, the Scotch house, Rathdown Union Workhouse at Loughlinstown, Tullamore jail, Castleconnel rapids, Kilballymacshonakill, the cross at Monasterboice, Jury’s Hotel, S. Patrick’s Purgatory, the Salmon Leap, Maynooth college refectory, Curley’s hole, the three birthplaces of the first duke of Wellington, the rock of Cashel, the bog of Allen, the Henry Street Warehouse, Fingal’s Cave—all these moving scenes are still there for us today rendered more beautiful still by the waters of sorrow which have passed over them and by the rich incrustations of time.
—Show us over the drink, says I. Which is which?
—That’s mine, says Joe, as the devil said to the dead policeman.
—And I belong to a race too, says Bloom, that is hated and persecuted. Also now. This very moment. This very instant.
Gob, he near burnt his fingers with the butt of his old cigar.
—Robbed, says he. Plundered. Insulted. Persecuted. Taking what belongs to us by right. At this very moment, says he, putting up his fist, sold by auction in Morocco like slaves or cattle.
—Are you talking about the new Jerusalem? says the citizen.
—I’m talking about injustice, says Bloom.
—Right, says John Wyse. Stand up to it then with force like men.
That’s an almanac picture for you. Mark for a softnosed bullet. Old lardyface standing up to the business end of a gun. Gob, he’d adorn a sweepingbrush, so he would, if he only had a nurse’s apron on him. And then he collapses all of a sudden, twisting around all the opposite, as limp as a wet rag.
—But it’s no use, says he. Force, hatred, history, all that. That’s not life for men and women, insult and hatred. And everybody knows that it’s the very opposite of that that is really life.
—What? says Alf.
—Love, says Bloom. I mean the opposite of hatred.Last edited by Strewelpeter; 17-01-20, 23:29.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Kayroo View PostSo someone with say... a Spanish father and Irish mother, born in New York and then brought to Ireland as a child would not be "as one with us as a people".
Cause that describes Eamon De Valera.
Your point really doesn't hold a huge amount of water. By the way Leo was born and raised here. Unlike Tom Clarke, James Connolly, Erskine Childers...
That's not Eamon De Valera. That's someone like Donald Trump, Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan etc etc.
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostYou're way off the mark here man!
You have an Irish passport you are as Irish as me my great great grandfather, Fionn McCool or anyone else you can name.
Probably doesn't make much sense out of context but this bit from the Cyclops episode of Ulysses nails the argument from when the Holohan of his day was allowed be a casual anti semite as well.
SPOILER
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