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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostI dunno... there is definitely some quite nasty bullying going on.
I guess any kid who is hasg cringeworthy behaviour posted widely online is going to be open to some abuse but this case appears acceptable to all the neckbeards and wannabee SJW's because he is middle class.
However, going back to your earlier question, these future captains of industry, benefitters of future open doors are much better placed to deal with a few days of viral slagging of their accents than say a kid from Darndale is.
Your question is a little obscene frankly.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Originally posted by Lazare View PostDidn't know the lad was named, and haven't seen the bullying. Nothing wrong with what they were at, bullying is unwarranted.
However, going back to your earlier question, these future captains of industry, benefitters of future open doors are much better placed to deal with a few days of viral slagging of their accents than say a kid from Darndale is.
Your question is a little obscene frankly.
So because these kids parents are wealthy, and the wealth they've earned will provide their kids with more opportunities in life that they are better placed to deal with bullying (viral slagging = bullying)?
You've basically made Strewels point for him.This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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Originally posted by Theresa View PostDon't think this is fair. Comes across like theres a chip on your shoulder.
So because these kids parents are wealthy, and the wealth they've earned will provide their kids with more opportunities in life that they are better placed to deal with bullying (viral slagging = bullying)?
You've basically made Strewels point for him.
Of course a wealthy kid with all the support that wealth provides is better placed to deal with it.
Bit ridiculous to suggest otherwise.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostVery few young people who have any type of open door imo. Maybe at the very high level - when people have made their way up to exec level it might help a bit.
The problem is not really that some people have open doors, but rather its a bit more difficult, in business anyway, for people with certain accents. I think particularly the North Dublin accent. So yeah, that kid from Darndale will struggle a bit, unfairly. And will probably have loads of dodgy experiences growing up that means they never even get to apply for the jobs that the kid from Blackrock gets to apply for.
Its not a Blackrock thing though, its a Darndale thing. So not sure its fair game to target the kid in Blackrock who probably has the same life problems as everyone else. Gov should obv work more on fixing that problem in Darndale, but tbh those areas send in loopers into the dail who will never get into power and so govs are only half-assed to chase their votes by putting proper effort into their communities.
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Every single kid in Blackrock college has open doors ahead of them.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Originally posted by Denny Crane View PostWhat are the origins of that accent? How long has that been around?
Was bizarre to hear the call. I went to Blackrock college and live nearby but it's been a long time since I've heard the 'pure' goys version of it
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostThey really don't. They have less problems, rather than more advantages. I'm not sure having less problems is something to be abusive to people about. The solution is rather to work on making sure other people also have less problems.
Going there certainly doesn't guarantee you're going to be rich but I've definitely had fewer hurdles to get over than others
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Less problems, more advantages. Basically the same thing.
Lazares post, and maybe he didn't mean it this way, but the tone of the post certainly made it seem like the chap being bullied (or virally slagged, or slagged or whatever semantics we want to argue over) should be well able for it because his parents are rich.
Which is bullshit.This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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Originally posted by Lazare View PostDidn't know the lad was named, and haven't seen the bullying. Nothing wrong with what they were at, bullying is unwarranted.
However, going back to your earlier question, these future captains of industry, benefitters of future open doors are much better placed to deal with a few days of viral slagging of their accents than say a kid from Darndale is.
Your question is a little obscene frankly.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostThey really don't. They have less problems, rather than more advantages. I'm not sure having less problems is something to be abusive to people about. The solution is rather to work on making sure other people also have less problems.
Whoahh there now though, who said it's cool to be abusive to people?I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
Think they're quite distinct. One implies a group of people being given special treatment, the other involves a group of people being given shite treatment. If you assume the first you get angry towards that 'special treatment' group, if you assume the second you get angry towards the system that allows that to exist. People should be getting angry towards the system and not towards kids who happen to have lucked into decent upbringings.
I think Lazares point was more that it was "easier" for kids from Blackrock, which is probably objectively true (whether its due to advantages or less problems).
That said, his tone that because its easier means they should be well able to deal with bullying is horsecrap. To put it in your words, Kids who happen to have lucked into decent upbringings should be well able to handle online bullying.This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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Originally posted by Theresa View PostTook a massive step towards being a hardcore rightwinger there last week, went and did my firearms course and am applying for my gun license.
The goal here is to go deer/elk hunting during next years season.
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Originally posted by Silly Gilly View PostUgh! Is there really nothing better that you could be doing with your spare time than excecuting animals? I've always found those involved in hunting to be rather strange individuals.
Blood is all that drives me now.This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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The faux working class Jackeen howarya accent laid on with a trowel by a whole generation of artsy left leaning kids (epitomised by the likes of the lads in the hugely talented Lankum ) is every bit as comical as the D4 RO'CK accent.
As we can hear from listening to radio archives accents change very fast but whole tribes of kids almost consciously adopting and comically overdoing a caricature of an accent that exists more in popular culture and the media than in the real world is a new development.Last edited by Strewelpeter; 17-11-19, 22:44.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Theresa View PostFair point. I intuitively agree with this.
I think Lazares point was more that it was "easier" for kids from Blackrock, which is probably objectively true (whether its due to advantages or less problems).
That said, his tone that because its easier means they should be well able to deal with bullying is horsecrap. To put it in your words, Kids who happen to have lucked into decent upbringings should be well able to handle online bullying.
I was responding to this question..
Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostAbsolute cringe but...
Whats the difference between bullying people because their families are wealthy and bullying people because their families are poor?
The question is obscene.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Sigh away. The tone of it certainly read that way.This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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FWIW I think if it was the same carry on, but with a bunch of buckos from Darndale or hard rural Kerry (lol Im gonna catch heat for this), or wherever then the point of ridicule would be the same.
Funny accent and funny behaviour.This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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.This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostI dunno... there is definitely some quite nasty bullying going on.
I guess any kid who is hasg cringeworthy behaviour posted widely online is going to be open to some abuse but this case appears acceptable to all the neckbeards and wannabee SJW's because he is middle class.
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Originally posted by Theresa View PostFWIW I think if it was the same carry on, but with a bunch of buckos from Darndale or hard rural Kerry (lol Im gonna catch heat for this), or wherever then the point of ridicule would be the same.
Funny accent and funny behaviour.
Privilege.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Originally posted by Lazare View PostSigh. I never once said these kids should be well able to handle bullying.
I was responding to this question..
Wealthy people, with all the supports that wealth provides are better placed to deal with life's hurdles than poorer people. Can we agree that that's a fact without foaming at the mouth that anybody is promoting class warfare?
The question is obscene.
Tarquin's tend towards useless at keeping there mouths shut in situations where lads from poorer areas know when to shut up and leave the room
ooh and..
Republic... therefore we only have a caste (class) system if we choose to impose it on ourselves
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Originally posted by Elshambles View PostDepends on the hurdle/problem
Tarquin's tend towards useless at keeping there mouths shut in situations where lads from poorer areas know when to shut up and leave the room
ooh and..
Republic... therefore we only have a caste (class) system if we choose to impose it on ourselves
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Originally posted by PSV58 View PostWe have a caste system people just pretend we dont
Easily fixed when compared to England
People need to stop calling themselves working class for a start
& and very few people in Ireland live with enough money/without debt to call themselves middle anything
imo
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Originally posted by Ed View PostAs someone who went there I feel like I definitely had a leg up in a general sense. Not quite 'open doors' but the very fact the school has always had such a high rate of students who went on to third level is always going to give more options.
Going there certainly doesn't guarantee you're going to be rich but I've definitely had fewer hurdles to get over than others
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Originally posted by Theresa View PostLess problems, more advantages. Basically the same thing.
Lazares post, and maybe he didn't mean it this way, but the tone of the post certainly made it seem like the chap being bullied (or virally slagged, or slagged or whatever semantics we want to argue over) should be well able for it because his parents are rich.
Which is bullshit.
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Originally posted by Denny Crane View PostIs it bullying? I thought it was funny just due to the innocence of the poor fella.
The point of my post was to highlights that its ridiculous to think that someones parents wealth makes them more or less able to deal with bullying.This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostI dunno... there is definitely some quite nasty bullying going on.
I guess any kid who is hasg cringeworthy behaviour posted widely online is going to be open to some abuse but this case appears acceptable to all the neckbeards and wannabee SJW's because he is middle class.
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Originally posted by Keane View PostThis from the man who literally invented the epithet 'Rich Boy Barrett'?
That Dobby fella though...This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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The more I think about it. The more the Democracts are fucking themselves with these impeachement hearings... yet there is nothing else to be done.
This goes one of two ways:
1. Public sentiment turns, Republicans get worried and force Trump to resign. Pence takes over. Maybe Dems go after him too because he's obviously compromised. He resigns and then we see who they run in 2020. If they don't I think they run someone else in 2020 anyway.
2. Republicans stick by Trump because they believe the public doesn't care enough. They are safe enough.
In either of these circumstances if Biden is the dem candidate in 2020 he gets eviscerated. Hunter and Burisma will be all over the news. Clearly something sketchy is going on there, or was, and even if not... that wont matter to the Republican spin machine and any even remotely right leaning voter.
So do they run Biden? if they don't is it Sanders or Warren? They need to run someone who is bulletproof from a moral and ethical standpoint and then... that person needs to be acceptable to the middle. Does that person exist?This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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A bunch of young lads acting the clown on holidays. Well that's never happened before. Its pretty tame stuff tbf. Its about the lowest rung of the ladder of things to get upset by. Really can't understand why the cringey voice message and comical accent generate so many eyerolls on twitter in the first place.
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Originally posted by Keane View PostThis from the man who literally invented the epithet 'Rich Boy Barrett'?
Originally posted by Zod View Postcan;'t believe ye are getting reeled in by Strewelpeter defending a bunch of D4 gobshites acting the arseholes in Thailand.
Accents have gone to shite since Niall Tobin died.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostThink they're quite distinct. One implies a group of people being given special treatment, the other involves a group of people being given shite treatment.
Better in the better situation is an advantage - regardless as to whether its due to your own positive treatment, or somebody else's negative treatment.
I seen the clip. I don't see what the fuss was about.
Making fun of somebody's accent for no reason, other than collective jealously, isn't right. But I'm not sure if I'd call it bullying if they "victim" is blissfully unaware. But obviously, different story if they are aware.
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I think lads are at their peak twat at that age anyway. Add into the mixture the D4 inbred self importance without the intelligence to back it up in many cases and in the case of the kid in the voice a hilarious lack of self awareness and you get a very cringey voice note. Life experience and a few set backs generally knocks that out of most of them.Profit before people.
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Having brekkie in a cafe and the 2 lads beside my would deffo pass for those Blacrock guys aul lads. Its all Adare Manor, massages, my new clubs, Mercs guzzling diesel etc etc....only difference is the accent seems to mature into a more Denis O' brien version (no idea where he is from originally).
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Originally posted by Theresa View PostThe more I think about it. The more the Democracts are fucking themselves with these impeachement hearings... yet there is nothing else to be done.
This goes one of two ways:
1. Public sentiment turns, Republicans get worried and force Trump to resign. Pence takes over. Maybe Dems go after him too because he's obviously compromised. He resigns and then we see who they run in 2020. If they don't I think they run someone else in 2020 anyway.
2. Republicans stick by Trump because they believe the public doesn't care enough. They are safe enough.
In either of these circumstances if Biden is the dem candidate in 2020 he gets eviscerated. Hunter and Burisma will be all over the news. Clearly something sketchy is going on there, or was, and even if not... that wont matter to the Republican spin machine and any even remotely right leaning voter.
So do they run Biden? if they don't is it Sanders or Warren? They need to run someone who is bulletproof from a moral and ethical standpoint and then... that person needs to be acceptable to the middle. Does that person exist?
Very much looks as though he'll be prioritising his own ass over Trump.
Which will pretty much prove the case (already fairly rock solid) that Trump made military aid to an ally conditional on digging dirt on Biden.
The question really is will that cause any Senate Republicans to flip? Or indeed Trump voters."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Theresa View PostI hope you don't take my Kerry accent comment to heart. You are one of the good guys!
That Dobby fella though...
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Originally posted by Keane View PostI wouldn't be too worried about people from anywhere in Ireland slagging the accent of people from anywhere else in Ireland tbf. As they go I wouldn't be in a big rush to swap mine for too many of the other varieties floating around!
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Originally posted by Dice75 View PostCan AJ plwase give the short version of what happens if we lose tonight re playoffs etc and how playoffs work (if we are even in them?)
It was always on the cards but the Ireland camp do know for certain that they will get another chance through the play-offs if they fall short tonight.
We're guaranteed a playoff spot if we don't win tonight but who we play will depend on how Wales do.
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Originally posted by Dice75 View PostCant read that as you have to login. Are the playoffs just a 2 leg job or rounds? Prob unlikely to get anyone we can beat bar jamming it to penos anyway.
e.g.:
If wales win, the League B play-off semis would be Bosnia v Northern Ireland and Slovakia v Ireland.
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It's fairly shocking that Ireland have scored less goals than games played in this group, especially considering one of those sides contains a team where players have day jobs aside from football and set a record for most goals conceded last campaign.
Only hope tonight is one of those 1-0's where we surrender like 75% of the ball and frustrate the living daylights out of Denmark. If they score early I could easily see a repeat of the trouncing they gave here before.Profit before people.
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Originally posted by The Situation View PostIt's fairly shocking that Ireland have scored less goals than games played in this group, especially considering one of those sides contains a team where players have day jobs aside from football and set a record for most goals conceded last campaign.
Only hope tonight is one of those 1-0's where we surrender like 75% of the ball and frustrate the living daylights out of Denmark. If they score early I could easily see a repeat of the trouncing they gave here before.
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