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Originally posted by winkey66 View PostWhat time does game start
I am not sure whether there is some free live stream, but on the ESPN site the weekly pass to watch the whole final table is just 2.99€
"Poker isn’t about default strategies, it’s about exploiting your opponent's bad tendencies"
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Originally posted by ViperEyeIRL View Post1:30am I believe.
I am not sure whether there is some free live stream, but on the ESPN site the weekly pass to watch the whole final table is just 2.99€
http://www.espnplayer.com/espnplayer/wsop
http://wiziwig.ru/others/watch-9919a...-of-poker-live"Ne jamais perdre sa passsionne...ou s'en, éloigner vite!!!!..EC
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Originally posted by Dimoxinil View Post"Poker isn’t about default strategies, it’s about exploiting your opponent's bad tendencies"
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Originally posted by ViperEyeIRL View Postthanks a lot for this link!!! went to sleep early last night and didn't watch it, but they are showing the replay right now, perfect timing!
Full Screen button wasn't working last night either, but it was fine today.
There was plenty of guys showing it on here last night, so it will be the same again tonight.
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Just in case you werent aware in the sky settings you can set extra time onto the epg planner when recording stuff.
By the way how long do they usually take to put the final table shows on youtube?. Or cousins if they are any quicker?.
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Originally posted by rounders123 View PostJust in case you werent aware in the sky settings you can set extra time onto the epg planner when recording stuff.
By the way how long do they usually take to put the final table shows on youtube?. Or cousins if they are any quicker?.
FinalsTV are pretty good for putting up WSOP. How's your Spanish? There's links up now
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read the blog for some then watched the last few hours Blumenfield seems a far more agressive player than what he was before the FT he even done an impression of swartz, lolThe smarter you play the luckier you'll be
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Originally posted by Flushdraw View PostYeah, have that added but i think they just chose to finish the recording at 6am regardless of the outcome. Just a coincidence it finished shortly after!
FinalsTV are pretty good for putting up WSOP. How's your Spanish? There's links up now
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-P...7zo6Ru0lRE8fiQ
Seen an english one
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Originally posted by Nuttkickker View Postread the blog for some then watched the last few hours Blumenfield seems a far more agressive player than what he was before the FT he even done an impression of swartz, lol
I guess Stern will slow down and look to ICM, and judging by McKeehan's body language & comportment throughout, I don't think he will finish the job.
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Originally posted by colm_leche View PostI think Blumenfield really grasped the power around the 1/2 hour delay on the stream, from the get go.
I guess Stern will slow down and look to ICM, and judging by McKeehan's body language & comportment throughout, I don't think he will finish the job.
I must have been watching a different stream cause I though McKeehan was playing incredibly well. He'll need to get quite unlucky 3 handed to lose this.
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The smarter you play the luckier you'll be
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Originally posted by peterswellman View PostI must have been watching a different stream cause I though McKeehan was playing incredibly well. He'll need to get quite unlucky 3 handed to lose this.
Props to Blumenfield though who is playing very well for a fun player (even if the 82 hand was pretty terrible)My poker blog - Doking around in cyberspace
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Originally posted by peterswellman View PostAnyone got a decent stream?
Working ok for me."Ne jamais perdre sa passsionne...ou s'en, éloigner vite!!!!..EC
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Originally posted by Midnitekowby View PostAnyone but McKeehan for me, can't think of a more dislikeable November 9r.
From the best of the players I like Stienburg
From a TV point of view everyone is too coached at this stage to make it good tv.
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Originally posted by winkey66 View PostAre the videos all live or is there highlight episodes?
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Stern's overexcessive tanking put me to sleep. Would love to see his hole cards because id say most hands should have been instantly mucked. Blessed to get as far as he did though. Was always going to be caught out
Liked Beckley, no hanging about with him. Instant pre flop fold if he wasn't playing the hand. Though was it just me or were his bets/raises very stringy?
McKeehen a good player who got all the cards at the right time. His lead was never in danger.
Neuville disappointed me. Steinberg is an interesting player. Likes a curveball.
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Originally posted by YoungGun View PostStern's overexcessive tanking put me to sleep. Would love to see his hole cards because id say most hands should have been instantly mucked. Blessed to get as far as he did though. Was always going to be caught out
Liked Beckley, no hanging about with him. Instant pre flop fold if he wasn't playing the hand. Though was it just me or were his bets/raises very stringy?
McKeehen a good player who got all the cards at the right time. His lead was never in danger.
Neuville disappointed me. Steinberg is an interesting player. Likes a curveball.
Would liked to see how Beckley would have faired if he wasn't button to McKeehan's BB. He was relentless on the button and it's a shame McKeehan could pick him off at will by putting maximum ICM pressure on him.
McKeehan did get smacked in the face with the deck but he did play very well regardless. I really hoped he would have doubled up one of the other guys to make it more interesting though.
Would love to see the November 9 scrapped. Think this year was a huge disappointment. I just want to see the players that got there play it out without any huge rails of pro players they got coaching from.
It won't happen though, but breaking it over 3 days is a joke. Just play the game straight out. It must be so annoying for the players breaking every 20 mins or so for an ad break and then playing for a couple of hours and then breaking for the night twice.
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Originally posted by Flushdraw View PostThe way he put chips in the pot tilted the bejaysus out of me. There's no string bets in the States the way there is in Europe so his bets were all fine.
Would liked to see how Beckley would have faired if he wasn't button to McKeehan's BB. He was relentless on the button and it's a shame McKeehan could pick him off at will by putting maximum ICM pressure on him.
McKeehan did get smacked in the face with the deck but he did play very well regardless. I really hoped he would have doubled up one of the other guys to make it more interesting though.
Would love to see the November 9 scrapped. Think this year was a huge disappointment. I just want to see the players that got there play it out without any huge rails of pro players they got coaching from.
It won't happen though, but breaking it over 3 days is a joke. Just play the game straight out. It must be so annoying for the players breaking every 20 mins or so for an ad break and then playing for a couple of hours and then breaking for the night twice.
Yeah McKeehen picked his spots pretty well though. Beckley's JJ lay down was impressive too.
I thought the table positions were interesting. Blumenfield made a nice bit of money out of Stern and was probably in the best position when it went 7 handed.
November 9 is all commercial anyway. Players aren't going to complain because its their one chance on a stage like this. But i agree it should go. I mean a 4 month wait is crazy. Chan waited 4 months for 2 hands, though I could possibly have found a fold in his position.
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Originally posted by YoungGun View PostNever knew that about the string bets. Had the same feeling as you every time he did it though.
Yeah McKeehen picked his spots pretty well though. Beckley's JJ lay down was impressive too.
I thought the table positions were interesting. Blumenfield made a nice bit of money out of Stern and was probably in the best position when it went 7 handed.
November 9 is all commercial anyway. Players aren't going to complain because its their one chance on a stage like this. But i agree it should go. I mean a 4 month wait is crazy. Chan waited 4 months for 2 hands, though I could possibly have found a fold in his position.
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Originally posted by chips1234 View Posthe butchered a pretty high % of hands he played including this one but looks like a genius because mckeehan had QQ, in reality he was mashing buttons in his head.
Overall, I think most of the pros will look back with regret. Neuville disappointed, and Steinberg was just woeful.
McKeehan a very worthy winner and Blumenfield did very well (horrible exit notwithstanding), but overall this was the weakest FT in a while.My poker blog - Doking around in cyberspace
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Originally posted by doke View PostYeah. 3 bet folding JJ is pretty horrible, notwithstanding the fact McKeehan happened to have queens. On the Twitch stream with Max Silver, Pads and Stealthmunk someone said Beckley only playing a year or so. He looked very inexperienced and technically clueless in spots.
Overall, I think most of the pros will look back with regret. Neuville disappointed, and Steinberg was just woeful.
McKeehan a very worthy winner and Blumenfield did very well (horrible exit notwithstanding), but overall this was the weakest FT in a while.
on the other hand blumenfields coaches seemed to do a very good job, bar a few hands he played he came out firing using his image that he got in the lead up to the FT to light 3b in some spots and overall stayed aggro and kept opening pots when he got a chance to.
steinberg, i just have no words,
thought stern played ok despite his tanking , defended pretty well although a little wide at times but jacobsen seemed to do a good coaching him. the T9s hand is def 100% +EV and a good spot to take imo.
neuville,butteroni,cannuli pretty much just nitted it up and hoped to ladder, have no idea why neuville folded that A7s to butteronis shove on the first day of the FT.
would like to hear your thoughts on chans KQo bust, im not sure i stick it in there, think id much rather be jamming than calling off, and without running the numbers not sure if it makes us the most $$$ in the long run.
EDIT: mckeehan played really well and small balled the shit out of them into submission and just grinded them out i loved it.
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Originally posted by chips1234 View Postwould like to hear your thoughts on chans KQo bust, im not sure i stick it in there, think id much rather be jamming than calling off, and without running the numbers not sure if it makes us the most $$$ in the long run.
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However, enough players expressed doubt over this for me to run the numbers through HRC. Turns out my intuition was correct. Nash has McKeehan jamming 51.1% of hands (22+ Ax+ K2s+ K6o+ Q2s+ Q8o+ J3s+ J8o+ T5s+ T8o+ 95s+ 98o 85s+ 87o 74s+ 64s+ 53s+), and Chan calling off with (14.6%, 66+ A6s+ A8o+ KTs+ KJo+ ), if McKeehan jams his entire range. It's reasonable to think McKeehan isn't jamming everything though but is splitting his range, like he's probably raise/calling aces etc., which makes it an even clearer call.
EDIT: I think the flat payout structure was a big factor in this. In a steeper payout structure, KQo might be a fold. For example, in a payout structure more like a standard Stars structure, KQo while still a call is very close, and KJo becomes a fold.Last edited by doke; 12-11-15, 07:57.My poker blog - Doking around in cyberspace
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Originally posted by chips1234 View Posthe butchered a pretty high % of hands he played including this one but looks like a genius because mckeehan had QQ, in reality he was mashing buttons in his head.
I'd guess Beckley was thinking along those lines. How many times does McKeehen bluff here? Don't think he does it with 99. Best case scenario in Beckley's head would have been something like AK. I get that obviously laying down in this position isn't going to be profitable long term, but I think given the situation it was understandable.
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Originally posted by doke View PostYeah. 3 bet folding JJ is pretty horrible, notwithstanding the fact McKeehan happened to have queens. On the Twitch stream with Max Silver, Pads and Stealthmunk someone said Beckley only playing a year or so. He looked very inexperienced and technically clueless in spots.
Overall, I think most of the pros will look back with regret. Neuville disappointed, and Steinberg was just woeful.
McKeehan a very worthy winner and Blumenfield did very well (horrible exit notwithstanding), but overall this was the weakest FT in a while.
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Originally posted by YoungGun View PostMcKeehen had been smallballing the whole final table, so he was representing a big hand here despite his stack size.
I'd guess Beckley was thinking along those lines. How many times does McKeehen bluff here? Don't think he does it with 99. Best case scenario in Beckley's head would have been something like AK. I get that obviously laying down in this position isn't going to be profitable long term, but I think given the situation it was understandable.
Originally posted by YoungGun View PostHave you ever been on a table with Steinberg? He's the sort of player who polarizes opinion I think. His bet sizing at times is extremely unorthodox. After he knocked Cannuli out I expected him to kick on but was pretty disappointed with his play after that
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Originally posted by YoungGun View PostMcKeehen had been smallballing the whole final table, so he was representing a big hand here despite his stack size.
I'd guess Beckley was thinking along those lines. How many times does McKeehen bluff here? Don't think he does it with 99. Best case scenario in Beckley's head would have been something like AK. I get that obviously laying down in this position isn't going to be profitable long term, but I think given the situation it was understandable.Last edited by chips1234; 12-11-15, 16:59.
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Originally posted by Flushdraw View PostIf McKeehan did this with AQ, 1010, or 98s, would it still have been a good fold from Beckley? I think he could have done it with all of these hands and put maximum ICM pressure on Beckley. I also think that if Beckley decides to 5 bet ship, he folds out all flips, and *may' get the fold from QQ because i don't think McKeehan would be too happy risking 42m from his stack when he could just chip away.
Never seen ICM hit a player as hard are Steinberg. That 3bet with 32o or whatever he had just knocked him back completely and he just faded after that. Seriously let down, although would like to see some of the hands he folded.
I suppose my choice of wording when saying this laydown was "impressive" is a bit off. The only way it looks a good fold is because we can see the cards as chips1234 said. Its more that I could understand why he made the decision. even if mckeehen had aq it would still have been a flip which Beckley clearly did not want
I also agree with chips1234 that if he was folding a 4bet then he should have just flatted pre.
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Originally posted by YoungGun View PostHave you ever been on a table with Steinberg? He's the sort of player who polarizes opinion I think. His bet sizing at times is extremely unorthodox. After he knocked Cannuli out I expected him to kick on but was pretty disappointed with his play after thatMy poker blog - Doking around in cyberspace
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Mckeehen was a worthy winner, he did get the cards and didn't find himself in many tough spots but didn't seem to put a foot wrong. Blumenfield was a different player and coaching really helped him, interesting his coach was from Israel and seemed to target stern and there was no way the Blumenfield pre coaching would have played some of them hands. His exit hand was poor though.
Players I was most impressed with weren't at the final table, fedor holtz and pesh Da silva. Them2 with negraneau would have been very interesting at the final tableThe smarter you play the luckier you'll be
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