Bad beat/Moan/Venting Thread - BBV Archive 3

[KevIRL]

Updates for Android 4.4.4 landing for Nexus devices. Just seems to be some patches to fix security bugs

http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/android-4-4-4-rolls-out-to-several-nexus-devices/

[hotspur]

@Elshambles

Watched it there. Unfortunately Prof Gaffney doesn't seem to be quite up to date with the research in the positive psychology field, and also puts some things across which are misinterpretations of the research.

Firsly the flourishing ratio of 5:1, called the Losada ratio, is nonsense. It was always nonsense as an idea that such a specific ratio would exist, but it turns out that the maths of the original paper were also utter nonsense and it has now been acknowledged to be nonsense:

http://retractionwatch.com/2013/09/19/fredrickson-losada-positivity-ratio-paper-partially-withdrawn/

Whether this was filmed by RTE before this or not I don't know.

The gratitude letter does not produce significant long term benefits.

The happiness pie chart drawn from Sonja Lyubomirsky is often misinterpreted in the way in which Prof Gaffney does. It is *not* that 50% of YOUR happiness is genetic etc. One of the founders of positive psychology Chris Peterson described the error here:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-good-life/201101/heritability-and-happiness

As far as a TV show goes it's okay I guess. It is pretty based on the show Making Australia Happy.

I do agree that meditation is of huge benefit, kindness and generosity to others is key, and cultivating gratitude is beneficial. We are going to see compassion training become a very big thing over the coming years, something to which Dacher Keltner briefly alluded to.

Also watched Jam Fly's Sunny episode at breakfast. Thought it was decent, but structurally very standard farce (in the real sense of that term). Train wreck trying to impress "betters" is a very well worn comedic device. I didn't think it actually used its 22 minutes well in doing that as the climax was rushed, especially the boudoir bit.

I think it was an error having the scene in the office of the award judge, that should just have been done in "laying pipe" at the beginning with one of them saying "I have entered us into...". Also (I had only just watched the 1st 2 episodes) does it rely on low grade racial and sexual taboo humour all the way through the show? It was what turned me off at the start - "Ha ha outrageous racism, ha ha outrageous homophobia. Taboos, eh? TABOOS. Giggle".

[TheJiggaman]

Friend of a friend starting a construction/engineering company soon and needs a good name for it. It is based in Ireland but in the future if it expands it would be nice to have a name NOT as Gaeilge. Won't give his name since he doesn't wanted it included in the business name.

Will send €5 to best suggestion.

I was thinking along the lines of ---works but prob could be a lot better.

Thanks

[Guest]

Friend of a friend starting a construction/engineering company soon and needs a good name for it. It is based in Ireland but in the future if it expands it would be nice to have a name NOT as Gaeilge. Won't give his name since he doesn't wanted it included in the business name.

Will send €5 to best suggestion.

I was thinking along the lines of ---works but prob could be a lot better.

Thanks

Come back to me when he is paying €5000

[SatNav]

Friend of a friend starting a construction/engineering company soon and needs a good name for it. It is based in Ireland but in the future if it expands it would be nice to have a name NOT as Gaeilge. Won't give his name since he doesn't wanted it included in the business name.

Will send €5 to best suggestion.

I was thinking along the lines of ---works but prob could be a lot better.

Thanks

Does he have his security system sorted yet?
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[mdoug]

Is there any sites/apps other than -> https://www.google.com/android/devicemanager that'll track your phone.

[6starpool]

Brazil are really no better than Cameroon defending. This game could really still go any way the way these clowns are defending.

[rounders123]

Reports coming in all the way from Brazil. Cameroon 1 - Brazil 2.

[mdoug]

The parents can easily eat the babies in the first week or so. I don't recommend keeping two hamsters together as they tend to try kill each other or procreate. The pet shop may take them or else advertise online to get rid of them.



No idea why you have the urge to drag up old message in regards to me. Why not post a screenshot of these 350+ matches or even while your at it you could throw up a picture of that foreign girl you met on tinder........

Get over yourself, I was talking to tipp87 about his previous post.

[6starpool]

Get over yourself, I was talking to tipp87 about his previous post.

Whatever about anything else, I'd like to see pictures of your 350 women.

[6starpool]

If Hulk wasn't Brazilian with a cool name he'd be a nobody in football.

This is just inept from both teams.

[Jam-Fly]

Also watched Jam Fly's Sunny episode at breakfast. Thought it was decent, but structurally very standard farce (in the real sense of that term). Train wreck trying to impress "betters" is a very well worn comedic device. I didn't think it actually used its 22 minutes well in doing that as the climax was rushed, especially the boudoir bit.

I think it was an error having the scene in the office of the award judge, that should just have been done in "laying pipe" at the beginning with one of them saying "I have entered us into...". Also (I had only just watched the 1st 2 episodes) does it rely on low grade racial and sexual taboo humour all the way through the show? It was what turned me off at the start - "Ha ha outrageous racism, ha ha outrageous homophobia. Taboos, eh? TABOOS. Giggle".

I suppose as far as original structure and other comedic devices go, it's not up there with the likes of Seinfeld etc (the series btw, not this specific episode). Rob McElhinney said that at its core, sitcoms should be like a group of people in a room talking. I think that kinda shows the direction the show goes. I found that because there's basically no external story influences (they own a bar which basically is just the platform for whatever story they want to roll with) it's very open to just go whichever direction it wants.

As far as relying on taboo humour, I wouldn't really say that. The main element is obviously the selfishness and delusion of all the characters. From season 2, Danny de Vito adds another element - maybe you can argue a lot of his involvement is lazy humour, but it's quite funny imo, so I've no problem with it.

Obviously I think it's a great show, so I'd say give it a chance. If there's another episode I'd recommend to show what the series does best, it's The Great Recession, season 5 episode 3.

[mdoug]

Whatever about anything else, I'd like to see pictures of your 350 women.

Finally bought a new phone yesterday so it should arrive tomorrow or Wednesday so will take a screen shot or something wherever they have the total amount.. no hope in hell I'll screenshot all of them though

[Strewelpeter]

Also (I had only just watched the 1st 2 episodes) does it rely on low grade racial and sexual taboo humour all the way through the show? It was what turned me off at the start - "Ha ha outrageous racism, ha ha outrageous homophobia. Taboos, eh? TABOOS. Giggle".

Yea there aren't enough taboo's to sustain all the episodes so they get recycled over and over along with unending contests to see whicj character is going to behave the worst in this episode.
I find that if I ration it to the occasional episode till it makes me laugh more than most shows do.

[Tar.Aldarion]

Get over yourself, I was talking to tipp87 about his previous post.

tipp87 clearly a winner when tipp86 thinks it's his own post

[6starpool]

Finally bought a new phone yesterday so it should arrive tomorrow or Wednesday so will take a screen shot or something wherever they have the total amount.. no hope in hell I'll screenshot all of them though

Much as I'd like to see it all for the craic, it wouldn't be right to post pictures here sadly, and I don't need to know if you actually have that amount on it. I have never used it, and will never use it, so have no idea if that amount is abnormal or not. I don't care if you are embellishing either, but I doubt you are personally.

Just having #bants (or some equally annoying word) which I've ruined with the unnecessary wordiness of this post.

[TheJiggaman]

Friend of a friend starting a construction/engineering company soon and needs a good name for it. It is based in Ireland but in the future if it expands it would be nice to have a name NOT as Gaeilge. Won't give his name since he doesn't wanted it included in the business name.

Will send €5 to best suggestion.

I was thinking along the lines of ---works but prob could be a lot better.

Thanks

Market closed - My own brain thought of one or three.

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[Tar.Aldarion]

Sure my brother has a thousand the man whore, tbf we are a very sexy family. Im sticking with the 4 i have thanks



There's something classy about a bottle of whiskey with a cork in it, loving my birthday drink with my cats

[Guest]

How is Neymar so bad for Barca when he's decent for Brazil?

[6starpool]

Don't be minding the turfcutter, we'll take ALL the girls

I'm a turfbringerhomer, not a turfcutter. Almost no one cuts their own turf (unless that is their profession of course). I am still in agony today, walking like a 90 year old.

[Emmet]

Sure my brother has a thousand the man whore, tbf we are a very sexy family. Im sticking with the 4 i have thanks



There's something classy about a bottle of whiskey with a cork in it, loving my birthday drink with my cats

Describe the 4 matches as Counties.

tyty

[ComradeCollie]

There's something classy about a bottle of whiskey with a cork in it, loving my birthday drink with my cats

Connemara peated?

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[KevIRL]

Brazil and Mexico now level on GD i believe

[Opr]

Brazil top at the moment on goals scored.

Opr

[hotspur]

Having seen those ads on posters and buses "Say what you see" from PML group, and not knowing who they are, I checked them out. Outdoor advertising "communications specialists". So I was expecting their website to be pretty sleek and elegant stuff:

http://pml.ie/about-us/

[KevIRL]

Brazil and Mexico now level on GD i believe

BBV ever powerful

[eamonhonda]

BBV ever powerful

Cheers man, I was on over 4.5, could ya take a peek at my bets for tomorrow and post accordingly

[Tar.Aldarion]

Connemara peated?

Having greenore 8 but have connemara peated here

Describe the 4 matches as Counties.

tyty

County Cavan, she's very tight.
County Wicklow, I'm not really sure if I want to go there.
County Sligo, I'd be at home in that.
County Russia, would crush me with her love thighs and I'd go on playdates with Hitch an the missus.

[Strewelpeter]

I'm a turfbringerhomer, not a turfcutter. Almost no one cuts their own turf (unless that is their profession of course). I am still in agony today, walking like a 90 year old.

There is a guy in work (city lad now living there at the weekends) who cuts his own down in Mayo all the locals come out to point and laugh at him. He also has an old VW Golf that he converted into a sort of trailer that runs on caterpillar tracks that he uses for saving it. And he also does the footing some weird way that I don't quite understand involving footing it into large ricks on pallets.

[Guest]

Having greenore 8 but have connemara peated here




County Cavan, she's very tight.
County Wicklow, I'm not really sure if I want to go there.
County Sligo, I'd be at home in that.
County Russia, would crush me with her love thighs and I'd go on playdates with Hitch an the missus.

Give the cats a few shots of whiskey and see If turns out like this.

http://youtu.be/EJEw3A_QO9o

[6starpool]

There is a guy in work (city lad now living there at the weekends) who cuts his own down in Mayo all the locals come out to point and laugh at him. He also has an old VW Golf that he converted into a sort of trailer that runs on caterpillar tracks that he uses for saving it. And he also does the footing some weird way that I don't quite understand involving footing it into large ricks on pallets.

In some exceptionally wet years we had to use pallets to get any sort of air around the turf to dry them, Those were horrible childhood summers when we had to do that.

[Wesley Harms]

How is Neymar so bad for Barca when he's decent for Brazil?

Messi. Brazil team is built around Neymar, not gonna happen at Barca

[ArmaniJeans]

Plausible L16 bracket. All SthAm top quarter could be fun.

Brazil v Chile
Columbia v Uruguay/Italy

France v Nigeria.
Germany v Algeria/Russia.
*******
Holla Netherlands v Mexico.
Costa Rica v Ivory Coast/Greece.

Argentina v Switzerland/Ecuador/Honduras.
Belgium v USA.

[mdoug]

Plausible L16 bracket. All SthAm top quarter could be fun.

Brazil v Chile
Colombia v Uruguay/Italy

France v Nigeria.
Germany v Algeria/Russia.
*******
Holla Netherlands v Mexico.
Costa Rica v Ivory Coast/Greece.

Argentina v Switzerland/Ecuador/Honduras.
Belgium v USA.

[Keane]

There is a guy in work (city lad now living there at the weekends) who cuts his own down in Mayo all the locals come out to point and laugh at him. He also has an old VW Golf that he converted into a sort of trailer that runs on caterpillar tracks that he uses for saving it. And he also does the footing some weird way that I don't quite understand involving footing it into large ricks on pallets.

Has bizarrely become good mates with John Waters as well apparently!

[hotspur]

And he also does the footing some weird way that I don't quite understand involving footing it into large ricks on pallets.

Uh huh, uh huh.

SPOILER

[Fiery Wasabi]

Is there any sites/apps other than -> https://www.google.com/android/devicemanager that'll track your phone.

Cerberus and Where's my Droid will track it too.

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[Tar.Aldarion]

Give the cats a few shots of whiskey and see If turns out like this.

http://youtu.be/EJEw3A_QO9o

fucking hell :|

[Jam-Fly]

Jaysus, fairly stone wall penalty there in the Mexico game (watching highlights obv). Good thing they won, would've massive talking point if they were knocked out after that.

[Strewelpeter]

Has bizarrely become good mates with John Waters as well apparently!

He's his Bro in Law... as you know we have great bit of banter between the two of us with a decent bit of edge to it but after the one time it came up the subject of Waters is completely off limits. There were a couple of times during the RTE debacle that I had to just stop and walk away

[6starpool]

Plausible L16 bracket. All SthAm top quarter could be fun.

Brazil v Chile
Columbia v Uruguay/Italy

France v Nigeria.
Germany v Algeria/Russia.
*******
Holla Netherlands v Mexico.
Costa Rica v Ivory Coast/Greece.

Argentina v Switzerland/Ecuador/Honduras.
Belgium v USA.

If 9 teams from the Americas get through that would be a record surely?

[mdoug]

Cerberus and Where's my Droid will track it too.

I can't seem to get it working on laptop here.. I will be willing to pay someone to track this down for me if it is at all possible . I have it connected via my gmail account and have imei number and sim card number but have no idea what to do or how to do it and google support are fucking woeful

Anyone want money and have some fun tracking down my phone. I swear to God I will honestly fly over to Germany next week and go to the exact house if anyone can find the location

[Strewelpeter]

I've been building up to doing the Great North Run 20K in Newcastle inSeptember I signed up in Feb but then started having some problems with knees and achilles tendons and didn't think I'd get to do it but on physio's advice in March I dropped to 6 weeks of keeping the runs to about 8k with slow progression afterwards and I've been building it back up bit by bit since then

I hope I haven't shot my load a bit early and the legs hold up but I was still feeling fairly good at the end of this tonight.

At one point I was running alongside this guy who was carrying an awful lot of weight , he made some comment as I was alongside him and it was pretty cool to be able to say to him that 18 months I was as big as he is now

[ArmaniJeans]

If 9 teams from the Americas get through that would be a record surely?

Fairly bleak for UEFA at the moment - the quadrennial African calls to grab one of our 13 places would for once be justified if they can get 3 of their 5 into the knockouts whilst we could theoretically be reduced to just Holland, Belgium and France qualifying (Germany, Italy, Switzerland, Russia, Greece and Portugal all still have some sort of chance from probable to mathematical)

[oleras]

That there is one of those posts i would like to thank twice, well done SP, serious well done.

I have a sore hole from jumping on and off this fitness thing, im not getting bigger and i love it when i do it, to me 3 mins is good ! and thats the running, the bedroom is shorter...

[hotspur]

Fairly bleak for UEFA at the moment - the quadrennial African calls to grab one of our 13 places would for once be justified if they can get 3 of their 5 into the knockouts whilst we could theoretically be reduced to just Holland, Belgium and France qualifying (Germany, Italy, Switzerland, Russia, Greece and Portugal all still have some sort of chance from probable to mathematical)

Just wait for the away leg in Russia 2018 you cunts.

[Jam-Fly]

Feels like the night is 2hrs longer now that the games finish earlier.

[Flushdraw]

If Hulk wasn't Brazilian with a cool name he'd be a nobody in football.

This is just inept from both teams.

Fred is a shit Brazilian with a shit name!

[Guest]

@Elshambles

Watched it there. Unfortunately Prof Gaffney doesn't seem to be quite up to date with the research in the positive psychology field, and also puts some things across which are misinterpretations of the research.

Firsly the flourishing ratio of 5:1, called the Losada ratio, is nonsense. It was always nonsense as an idea that such a specific ratio would exist, but it turns out that the maths of the original paper were also utter nonsense and it has now been acknowledged to be nonsense:

http://retractionwatch.com/2013/09/19/fredrickson-losada-positivity-ratio-paper-partially-withdrawn/

Ya, while more positive than negative is clearly a good thing, the whole exact ratio had me a bit puzzled watching it

Whether this was filmed by RTE before this or not I don't know.

The gratitude letter does not produce significant long term benefits.
Thank fuck

The happiness pie chart drawn from Sonja Lyubomirsky is often misinterpreted in the way in which Prof Gaffney does. It is *not* that 50% of YOUR happiness is genetic etc. One of the founders of positive psychology Chris Peterson described the error here:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-good-life/201101/heritability-and-happiness

THANK FUCK!!!

As far as a TV show goes it's okay I guess. It is pretty based on the show Making Australia Happy.

I do agree that meditation is of huge benefit, kindness and generosity to others is key, and cultivating gratitude is beneficial. We are going to see compassion training become a very big thing over the coming years, something to which Dacher Keltner briefly alluded to.

Will give second a watch as seemed to be some decent stuff in it. Woke up exhausted this morning with a load of pre-made plans for stuff to do, way too tired and was about to blow off the day (as I had done with last couple of days off), when something one of the fellas on it said popped into my head, gave myself a kick up the hole and did some spring cleaning of paperwork, bedroom drawers etc. Not the original plan but stuff that was massive overdue.

Cheers!

[ArmaniJeans]

Plausible L16 bracket. All SthAm top quarter could be fun.

Brazil v Chile
Columbia v Uruguay/Italy

Colombia

Always causes me hassle that one, fairly sure my first Oxford School Atlas called it Columbia (probably to tie in with the anglo spelling of Columbus).
Romania is another one, Rumania was the first spelling of it we were given in the 80s.

[Jam-Fly]

Always causes me hassle that one, fairly sure my first Oxford School Atlas called it Columbia (probably to tie in with the anglo spelling of Columbus).
Romania is another one, Rumania was the first spelling of it we were given in the 80s.

The Ivy League University is spelled Columbia also to add to the confusion.

[hotspur]

Cheers!

Watch Making Australia Happy instead, Ep.1:

http://vimeo.com/79498362

I'm guessing the thing that gave you a kick in the arse was the comment by the guy about switching from the mentality of waiting until you feel like doing something to do it to one of doing it anyway and the motivation follows.

This shift in philosophy is a key aspect of behavioural activation that I use when someone comes to me who is depressed and not doing stuff. They don't do stuff because they don't feel like doing stuff.

I explain that this philosophy is usually fine and how we tend to live our lives most of the time, but it's not fine when motivation is a problem such as with depression. Then you have to schedule self-rewarding activities are are high in pleasure and / or achievement, and do them even if you don't feel like doing them.

Because with depression you will never feel like doing them, and disengagement from activities that get rewarded is one thing which causes loss of motivation and depression.

At a more meta level of life direction it's a bit like the shift in philosophy in another behavioural therapy called Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, in which the client is encouraged to shift to a more values directed life. Most people do not navigate their lives according to their deeply held values with the idea that they would do so if they had x, or if they didn't have y etc.

And the shift in philosophy there is to encourage them to move in the direction of a values led life even with their problems and the pain they carry. Because they have already been waiting a long time for that thing to go away, or arrive, or change. How much longer are you gonna wait? Another year, decade, whole lifetime? Whatever you do you will have to do it with your personal autobiography, with your pain, fear, and doubts.

If I guessed wrong at which guy's comment helped you get your arse into gear then I'm an idiot

[Guest]

Watch Making Australia Happy instead, Ep.1:

http://vimeo.com/79498362

I'm guessing the thing that gave you a kick in the arse was the comment by the guy about switching from the mentality of waiting until you feel like doing something to do it to one of doing it anyway and the motivation follows.

This shift in philosophy is a key aspect of behavioural activation that I use when someone comes to me who is depressed and not doing stuff. They don't do stuff because they don't feel like doing stuff.



If I guessed wrong at which guy's comment helped you get your arse into gear then I'm an idiot

Ya was him
When a fella in his state can move his hole, I can get off the couch

[CHDad]

Market closed - My own brain thought of one or three.

Damn. Oh golly. No.

Was it one or three? Maybe it was two and you're talking a big game.

So excited to know.

Can you win the fiver?

[Jam-Fly]

anyone that enjoyed the jbravado well, it reminded me a bit of this thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...tl-dr-1085130/

[Lord Sir Banter]

Damn. Oh golly. No.

Was it one or three? Maybe it was two and you're talking a big game.

So excited to know.

Can you win the fiver?

whatdidyouhave4tea

[Lplated]

I'm guessing the thing that gave you a kick in the arse ....

This shift in philosophy is a key aspect of behavioural activation ....

I explain that this philosophy is usually fine and how we tend to live our lives most of the time, but it's not fine when ....

At a more meta level of life direction it's a bit like the shift in philosophy in another behavioural therapy called Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, in which the client is encouraged to shift to a more values directed life. Most people do not navigate their lives according to their deeply held values with the idea that they would do so if they had x, or if they didn't have y etc.

And the shift in philosophy ......

If I guessed wrong at which guy's comment helped you get your arse into gear then I'm an idiot

See, this kinda stuff is what I missed most when you weren't posting. It's like incorporating a few pages from a well researched self help book into my daily BBV read.

Sometimes it strikes a cord with me or my life, some times it doesn't but is interesting nonetheless.

Thanks.