Darts Betting Thread

[shano1888]

4-0 in 24 mins

[Jam-Fly]

MVG, jesus....

[Starvin Marvin]

Lewis is giving him chance after chance.

Van Gerwen is getting outscored, just can't hit a double.

[TheImprover]

He's a machine when he gets going but we all remember he did the same last year, a much easier opponent this time around though

[DAMO72]

Will the MVG Lewis match be on straight after this or will they wait til 9.30. I've got to drive somewhere which will take me 40mins

Hope you didn't miss it

[shano1888]

Anyone know the prize money for winning and reaching final?

[Flushdraw]

Anyone know the prize money for winning and reaching final?

£250k for winner and £100k for Rup

Finkel? Can you go around to Starvin Marvin's house and remove all his shoelaces pls!

[White Knight]

Anyone know the prize money for winning and reaching final?

Winner £250,000
Runner-up £100,000
Semi-finalist £50,000
Quarter-finalist £25,000
Third round losers £15,000
Second round losers £10,000
First round losers £6,000
Preliminary round losers £3,500
Nine-dart finish £30,000 (£15,000 each so far)

[White Knight]

Winner £250,000
Runner-up £100,000
Semi-finalist £50,000
Quarter-finalist £25,000
Third round losers £15,000
Second round losers £10,000
First round losers £6,000
Preliminary round losers £3,500
Nine-dart finish £30,000 (£15,000 each so far)

I think I'll take up darts next year!

[shano1888]

Decent payday for Wright so.

[ArmaniJeans]

I think I'll take up darts next year!

Probably wouldn't be the worst thing to have a shot at as I think the money is way ahead of the actual talent at this moment - there's a lot of really terrible players around the 16-48 ranking but in a decades time there'll probably be a lot of more competent young players coming through.

(Ironically if its like snooker this will co-incide with a recession in the sport).

Binking the tour card would probably be the hardest part at the moment as its a bit of a lottery.

[KevIRL]

Probably wouldn't be the worst thing to have a shot at as I think the money is way ahead of the actual talent at this moment - there's a lot of really terrible players around the 16-48 ranking but in a decades time there'll probably be a lot of more competent young players coming through.

(Ironically if its like snooker this will co-incide with a recession in the sport).

Binking the tour card would probably be the hardest part at the moment as its a bit of a lottery.

Grinding out the floor tournaments would be pretty grim I reckon

Standard payout
1st - £10K
2nd - £5K
Semi Final - £2.5K
Quarter Final - 1.5K
Last 16 - £1K
Last 32 - £500
Last 64 - £250

Entry fee £100, and events have 128 or 256 entries

Vital to be doing this for ranking points and the separate ranking list for UK Open.

Obviously if you can get into the Premier League everything is rosy but I'd imagine life below that level to be pretty tough, especially for those on a downward slope. Losing a top 16 or top 32 ranking would be a disaster

[Flushdraw]

Grinding out the floor tournaments would be pretty grim I reckon

Standard payout
1st - £10K
2nd - £5K
Semi Final - £2.5K
Quarter Final - 1.5K
Last 16 - £1K
Last 32 - £500
Last 64 - £250

Entry fee £100, and events have 128 or 256 entries

Vital to be doing this for ranking points and the separate ranking list for UK Open.

Obviously if you can get into the Premier League everything is rosy but I'd imagine life below that level to be pretty tough, especially for those on a downward slope. Losing a top 16 or top 32 ranking would be a disaster

That's not bad compared to pool. You need to practice for years to get really good, that get all your expenses together to travel and play some of the main events in the UK, and chance Europe or the States, and shipping 2 or 3 of them probably won't even break you even for the season. Whatever people say about poker, most of us are capable of shipping a few grand in a tournament without being anywhere near the best player in it. To do it in pool, you need to beat some of the top ranked players in Europe and the World. Darts seems like a better option, although the likes of both sports and snooker seem like grim existences if you're borderline very good and can't catch a break

http://www.azbilliards.com/tours_and_events/74-great-britain-9-ball-tour/5381-gb9-2013-northern-masters-main-event/results/

[ArmaniJeans]

Grinding out the floor tournaments would be pretty grim I reckon

Standard payout
1st - £10K
2nd - £5K
Semi Final - £2.5K
Quarter Final - 1.5K
Last 16 - £1K
Last 32 - £500
Last 64 - £250

Entry fee £100, and events have 128 or 256 entries

Vital to be doing this for ranking points and the separate ranking list for UK Open.

Obviously if you can get into the Premier League everything is rosy but I'd imagine life below that level to be pretty tough, especially for those on a downward slope. Losing a top 16 or top 32 ranking would be a disaster

Agree it'd be pretty grim lifestyle so I suppose you'd need to be starting from a position where such a lifestyle would be an improvement, not to give up a job or college for it.

But honestly if the likes of The Pieman can presumably carve out enough financial reward from those floor tourneys to remain a Top 32 player then there has to be a gap.

I was thinking earlier that its a bit like online poker 2004 and a decent 200% ROI is probably sustainable (which admittedly would only be £400 profit given two floor tournmants a weekend).
Many of the existing players make mistakes which hammer their EV - they cant do basic counting and go for the wrong combos, and dart selection above 200 is poor. Lots of drinking and bad physical shape etc.

Put it this way, I think theres a lot more edge left in darts than there is in say snooker where even at the lowest rungs everyone can knock in centuries at will.

[KevIRL]

That's not bad compared to pool. You need to practice for years to get really good, that get all your expenses together to travel and play some of the main events in the UK, and chance Europe or the States, and shipping 2 or 3 of them probably won't even break you even for the season. Whatever people say about poker, most of us are capable of shipping a few grand in a tournament without being anywhere near the best player in it. To do it in pool, you need to beat some of the top ranked players in Europe and the World. Darts seems like a better option, although the likes of both sports and snooker seem like grim existences if you're borderline very good and can't catch a break
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I would have taken it as a given that pool wouldnt be comparable with darts tbh

[Starvin Marvin]

Finkel? Can you go around to Starvin Marvin's house and remove all his shoelaces pls!

Still badly want to hurt someone, never myself though.

[kaiser soze]

I would have taken it as a given that pool wouldnt be comparable with darts tbh

I don't think it's a serious option unless you've got some raw talent and real commitment.Theres a guy who plays in Duleek and district darts league kieth Rooney who is a serious talent and went under Phil Taylor's Wing the same time as Adi Lewis and Taylor hailed him as a future world champ. He didn't show full commitment at the time and Taylor sent him home and look at Lewis now.This guy as beaten wade before and several others on the circuit but can't get his foot back in the top flight.

[Flushdraw]

Little weary of backing too much in the final, but think MVG -3.5 @ Evs is the way to go. If MVG hits that scoring bubble, he'll mop up the sets he leads, and then Wright will be under enormous pressure to hold. Can't see Wright getting 4 sets in the match tbh

Not missed an overs bet on Wright averages all tournament, and going to go again on this one. Ladbrokes have the line @ over 97.5 @ 5/6. He's only failed to beat this line once all tournament. He turned in a 105 average against a very quick Player in Michael Smith, so it seems that MVGs pace will suit him. On the other hand, MVG puts in his 103 average against Lewis who plays the same speed as MVG. This included 8 ton + finishes which is going to be difficult to reproduce. He also seems to struggle against slower players.

Another factor is that if MVG is scoring well, then Wright could hit 140,140,140 in legs and not get a shot at a double, so he's not wasting any darts at doubles or setups. He could lose this game 7-0 and still produce over 100 average.

Ladbrokes have Wright to score the higher avergae of the 2 players 9/4. This is just too big. I'd have it 7/4 as Boyles do, but too much value in 9/4 not to back it also.

Was looking at the 180s handicap market but MVG is -5.5 so there still may be some value but not crazy about it. I did have a little bet on MVG +5.5 180s @ 11/10 with SportingBet. It's an error on their part, but just wondering how they'll settle it as 1/100 is a closer price. 11/10 for -5.5 isn't the worse price either.

MVG -3.5 sets @ Evs
Wright average over 97.5 @ 5/6
Wright better average than MVG @ 9/4

[Flushdraw]

Also taking MVG win match/most 180s/highest checkout treble @ 11/10 with WH

Individually priced, they are 1/6, 2/9 and 8/13 so 13/10

The first 2 parts should be a gimme, and i feel in the final that MVG will just come alight with his checkouts and would be surprised to see him fall below his line of 136.5 with WH which i'd have @ 140.5 so taking some of that too. There should be 10 sets in this match, but there could be 13 so MVG will leave himself a ton of chances at beating that checkout and he'll go for the majority of them regardless if Wright is on a finish.

Wright has checkout out well in this tournament so far, bar the semi-final which is where MVG came alive and hit a 146 and 154 checkouts aswel as some other 3 dart finishes.

[KevIRL]

Also taking MVG win match/most 180s/highest checkout treble @ 11/10 with WH

Individually priced, they are 1/6, 2/9 and 8/13 so 13/10

The first 2 parts should be a gimme, and i feel in the final that MVG will just come alight with his checkouts and would be surprised to see him fall below his line of 136.5 with WH which i'd have @ 140.5 so taking some of that too. There should be 10 sets in this match, but there could be 13 so MVG will leave himself a ton of chances at beating that checkout and he'll go for the majority of them regardless if Wright is on a finish.

Wright has checkout out well in this tournament so far, bar the semi-final which is where MVG came alive and hit a 146 and 154 checkouts aswel as some other 3 dart finishes.

This is a 5/4 special on PP Tony

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/powerplay/enhanced-special?ev_oc_grp_ids=239489

[Flushdraw]

This is a 5/4 special on PP Tony

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/powerp...grp_ids=239489

Even better again so

[rounders123]

[Percy007]

Im having a go on the 9 darter tonight 7/1 on 365

[BobSloane]

Arrrgh...link for darts anyone? Firstrow not working for me

edit : 9 darter 9-1 special on PP Percy

[conspicuous]

Arrrgh...link for darts anyone? Firstrow not working for me

http://cricfree.tv/sky-sports-1-live-stream-uk.php

[The Situation]

With Wright first set and on the +3.5 cap. Being huge fav to win your first world title is gigantic pressure that you just don't know how he'll react.

[BobSloane]

http://cricfree.tv/sky-sports-1-live-stream-uk.php

fml thats not working for me either.

[conspicuous]

Does anyone know anything about these guys stats on 9 dart finishes? I haven't a clue but 7/1 or 9/1 "special" on either of them doesn't seem anywhere close

[conspicuous]

fml thats not working for me either.

Security settings perhaps ?

[Flushdraw]

fml thats not working for me either.

I'm watching here

http://firstrownow.eu/watch/230280/1/watch-darts:-pdc-world-darts-championship---day-16-.html

[BobSloane]

Security settings perhaps ?

I'm watching here

http://firstrownow.eu/watch/230280/1...--day-16-.html

Thanks. I'm just getting server not found there..dunno why the conspicuos link wont work either. Got this one working so sorted anyway..http://dazsports.org/index.php/stream-1

[TheImprover]

Firstrow wouldn't work for me either today for Utd game, gave thelinks but nothi ng happening when I pressed on it.
This could be a whitewash

[Jam-Fly]

Jesus, thought Wright had a good chance here, MVG is just sick

[kaiser soze]

With Wright first set and on the +3.5 cap. Being huge fav to win your first world title is gigantic pressure that you just don't know how he'll react.

I think when he bet the joint favourite and back to back champion 6-0 in the semis bottle was never going to be a question. Full snack box for me tonight

[TheJiggaman]

Ah no . . Mardle on commentary now. Readying myself for when Wright wins a set: "maybe. . .just maybe Van Gerwen will be thinking! Wright is now speeding up!"

f off

[kaiser soze]

If I hear mardle say "well I'm not a gambling man" I think I will kill myself

[TheImprover]

If Wright could hit tops he'd be Wright back in it

[Flushdraw]

Need Wright to hold his average but need MVG to take out a big 3 dart finish and ship this set. One time

[TheImprover]

MVG must be the most inconsistent player in this format in each individual game, , one set he's just unbelievable, averaging 106/107, next set 96/97 he's just like a whole knickers, not like a Taylor

[kaiser soze]

MVG must be the most inconsistent player in this format in each individual game, , one set he's just unbelievable, averaging 106/107, next set 96/97 he's just like a whole knickers, not like a Taylor

Nobody is like a Taylor

[Wesley Harms]

Peter Peter wright, peter wright peter wright Peter peter wright

[Flushdraw]

Fk the handicap, more legs for MVG to hit the checkout. That D14 miss was like a dagger lol!

[kaiser soze]

Yeah thought that was it myself tony

[TheImprover]

Mardel: "at the start of this match Peter Wright was 7/2, at 2-0 down he was still 7/2, just goes to show how impressed people are with Peter Wright"
Fkn clown, nothing to do with the bookies not giving away too much

[Flushdraw]

Fucking poxy result for me. FML

[theshortstack]

Great game of darts, well played by Wright in making a game of it but MVG is sick.

[TheImprover]

Great game of darts.

far from it tbh, it got a bit exciting when Snakebite got a few sets on the board but he was never going to beat him after been 4 down
Wright is a class act though

[ArmaniJeans]

Fucking poxy result for me. FML

Ironic really coz you were the one who always kept faith with MVG when he was plumbing the depths of 32-64 in the ranking list with the likes of Dennis Ovens and the PieMan.

[theshortstack]

far from it tbh, it got a bit exciting when Snakebite got a few sets on the board but he was never going to beat him after been 4 down
Wright is a class act though

Maybe not but he gave VG a sweet, which wasn't really expected at 4-0 when it could have been awful but the come bk made it some bit exciting. Should have said exciting rather than good but meh

[BallymoreChris]

Mardel: "at the start of this match Peter Wright was 7/2, at 2-0 down he was still 7/2, just goes to show how impressed people are with Peter Wright"
Fkn clown, nothing to do with the bookies not giving away too much

MVG price didnt shorten when he went 2 up.

[Flushdraw]

Ironic really coz you were the one who always kept faith with MVG when he was plumbing the depths of 32-64 in the ranking list with the likes of Dennis Ovens and the PieMan.

Yeah i've backed him many years ago at 150/1 for the title and always knew he'd get there. I don't mind the result so much, but had a big treble on MVG win/180s/checkout and a single on the checkout and wrights 130 was enough to win. Wright's falter from a 99 average to 95 was my biggest loser of the night. MVG couldn't even win the -3.5 handicap ffs. Still had MVG backed @ 7/2 and Wright highest average of the tournament @ 25/1 but it was a sour end to the tournament for me. arghhhhhhhhhhh

[Flushdraw]

Glad to see no Wade or Hamilton in the Premier League

[Wesley Harms]

Glad to see no Wade or Hamilton in the Premier League

Leaving Wade out is scandalous

[Flushdraw]

Leaving Wade out is scandalous

Should be in ahead of Newton. Thats's the only change i'd make, but still glad not to see the sour faced prick involved. Barney is too big a draw, but Huybrechts will replace him next year.

[Wesley Harms]

Should be in ahead of Newton. Thats's the only change i'd make, but still glad not to see the sour faced prick involved. Barney is too big a draw, but Huybrechts will replace him next year.

Take out Taylor and Barney and Wade has won more majors than the rest combined.

[Flushdraw]

Take out Taylor and Barney and Wade has won more majors than the rest combined.

He's still a nutjob though, and could be damaging for the Premier League if he can't make one of the meetings for whatever reason.

[ArmaniJeans]

Hatchet job on Wade really - getting their revenge for some of his indescretions in 2013, and Barry tried to twist it that they are doing him a favour giving him a year off!

[KevIRL]

Leaving Wade out is scandalous

Rumour was he wanted to take a break. Doubt he was left out, more like he chose to be out

[Wesley Harms]

Rumour was he wanted to take a break. Doubt he was left out, more like he chose to be out

Would make more sense alright but I've a feeling 'they' just cut him.

[NewApproach]

100k for the runner up. Bit on the low side, no?