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Originally posted by Silver-Tiger View PostSure, Why not?
Defending champ obv, 9 straight cuts in Majors (tied most with Phil). Contended in the WGC a few weeks ago and has been playing nicely all year and obv has the minerals. Missed cut in his last outing in Transitions but i'd imagine Tiredness was a factor.
44s is not bad in my opinion.
It's easy to attribute his victory last year to McIlroy's implosion but he won it by finishing with four straight birdies - that's astonishing.
Last year he only had one Top 20 in Four stroke play events prior to Augusta, this year he has already had 2 Top 5s.
I'm no expert but he seems too big a price to me.
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Originally posted by Hurricane Fly View PostBecause if someone is talking bollocks I prefer to help them see the light than to continue talking said bollocks.
It's the only way imoLast edited by premierstone; 26-03-12, 23:43.
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Originally posted by premierstone View PostHe's not talking bollox and what he has said is 100% correct
Its impossible to argue that mcilroys swing isnt technically much better than tigers at the same stage of their careers and the potential is there for him to be one of the best.
Saying mcilroy is technically better than woods at this very early stage of his career is VERY different to saying mcilroy is simply a better player than woods at the respective stage of their careers as there are a miriad of factors to be considered and woods all round game was immense.
Its hard to make accurate comparisons as they will never be in their primes at the same time though so only time will tell if mcilroy continues improving and starts closing out tournaments like only woods was capable of but to make a definitive statement like its bollox is simply untrue.
Hopefully the masters gives us some excitement next week and its defo set up for something special.Last edited by Jaysoose; 27-03-12, 10:01.
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Originally posted by nicnicnic View PostWouldn't it be something if we got both in the final group on day 4, I could see it happening although wouldn't have either at current prices.
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Originally posted by NewApproach View PostAnyone give Schwartzel a chance, 44 on betfair atm.
Has been steadily coming into form this year, gonna take the 44 on him before the Houston... Don't expect him to be that big next week!!
He's Probly gonna be my main e/w bet along with Rose @ 34's
My selection fwiw...
All prices betfair:
Donald win 17.5
Stricker ew 65
And a few of the longer shots...
Harrington 140
Wilson 290
Bae 250"the impossible is often untried"
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Originally posted by nijinsky View PostIf you want a gamble on the US masters ask for 1000s on Betfair on Kevin Chappell (put up your bet at 1000 and wait, don't take the 720 on offer.)
In 2011 he had a 2nd and two 3rds on the US PGA Tour incl. a 3rd in the US Open. Check his last three rounds there and compare them to the winner, Rory McIlroy. In 2012 he is struggling a bit but is shooting quite a few rounds in the 60s and seems to be improving. He might get a top 25 this week at the Arnold Palmer.
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Augusta is a real horses for courses tournament.
My bets this week are
KJ Choi ew @ 66/1
Hard to look past the top 3 in the betting imo. Will prob wait to see how their prices are after RD 1.
@nicnicnic
When are you gonna learn that laying Westwood in majors = $$$$$ and backing Westwood in majors =
the gulf in class between McIlroy and Westwood is a constant sore point with Westwood and as his frustrations build up even further I cant see Westwood winning one.
Edit: Think I will take Rory at 5's. Hard to describe how much better he is at golf than the rest
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Originally posted by Downtown View Post
Edit: Think I will take Rory at 5's. Hard to describe how much better he is at golf than the rest
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Originally posted by Jaysoose View PostI never said mcilroy has won more than tiger at the same stage of his career though did i? I said in my opinion mcilroys swing is technically better at the same stage of their careers and he can go on to be one of the greats. Whats so contraversial about saying this its just an opinion?
why do some posters feel the need to be so arsey about things they dont agree with? its a fuckin joke on here at times.'Mental Toughness is doing the right thing for the team when it's not the best thing for you' - Bill Belichick
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Originally posted by tallamuner View Postdo you see them drifting nicky,will the bookies want more cash on them as i want to have a nice bet on rory but he is so skinny.
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Originally posted by Downtown View PostAugusta is a real horses for courses tournament.
My bets this week are
KJ Choi ew @ 66/1
Hard to look past the top 3 in the betting imo. Will prob wait to see how their prices are after RD 1.
@nicnicnic
When are you gonna learn that laying Westwood in majors = $$$$$ and backing Westwood in majors =
the gulf in class between McIlroy and Westwood is a constant sore point with Westwood and as his frustrations build up even further I cant see Westwood winning one.
Edit: Think I will take Rory at 5's. Hard to describe how much better he is at golf than the rest
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Originally posted by eagle eye View PostNobody would dispute that McIlroy has a better swing than Tiger had at that time. Thats only one part of the game though, Tiger was a better scrambler and a waaay better putter than Rory currently is and the biggest difference at the very top of the game is how many shots you gain and lose on and around the greens.
Saying mcilroy is technically better than woods at this very early stage of his career is VERY different to saying mcilroy is simply a better player than woods at the respective stage of their careers as there are a miriad of factors to be considered and woods all round game was immense
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Originally posted by Dice75 View PostWut?
You mean I'm gonna be stuck on a farm in the arsehole of Galway for Easter with the outlaws with no Masters Thur/Fri night
Powers doing a good offer in that they will refund if Tiger wins.
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Originally posted by nicnicnic View PostTaking 5/1 Rory is every bit as retarded as betting Westwood, actually its worse, nice piece of psychoanalysis though, I had no idea you were an expert in that field also.
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Originally posted by premierstone View PostSurely not, afterall Westwood is 0 from 64 in majors?? Mcillroy is 1 from 13 and top 3 in 3 of the last 6 majors, I know who Id prefer my money on!
o for 64 you say ? he's due obviously - I fight a weekly battle with myself to not back westwood, I lost that battle this week in texas, next week who knows, i did say shoot me for contemplating it
its 55 majors btw 64 WGC's he hasn't won in
I'm just think Rory is under priced as he has been in every tournament he's played the last three years, he may piss up but backing him at 5/1 is very -ev in the long runLast edited by nicnicnic; 30-03-12, 00:18.
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Originally posted by nicnicnic View Postbest golfer tee to green in the world, top three in 5 of last 12 majors yadayadayada
o for 64 you say ? he's due obviously
its 55 majors btw 64 WGC's he hasn't won in
I'm just think Rory is under priced as he has been in every tournament he's played the last three years, he piss up but backing him at 5/1 is very -ev in the long run
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Originally posted by nicnicnic View Postbest golfer tee to green in the world, top three in 5 of last 12 majors yadayadayada
o for 64 you say ? he's due obviously
its 55 majors btw 64 WGC's he hasn't won in
I'm just think Rory is under priced as he has been in every tournament he's played the last three years, he may piss up but backing him at 5/1 is very -ev in the long run
He's due alright, due some bottle!
All joking aside though obv 5/1 is skinny, but you have to understand it, if I was a layer I wouldnt want to take any e/w money on him and thats the only way to avoid it really.
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Originally posted by premierstone View PostBest golfer tee to fairway yes, dont resort to hyperbole, he's iron play is good, definitely not the best in the world, plus as you sadi earlier yourself its what happens on and around the greens is the most important, stop contradicting yourself
He's due alright, due some bottle!
All joking aside though obv 5/1 is skinny, but you have to understand it, if I was a layer I wouldnt want to take any e/w money on him and thats the only way to avoid it really.
and yes he's without doubt he's the best golfer in the world tee to green
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Originally posted by nicnicnic View Postyour mixing me up with someone else on whats bolded
and yes he's without doubt he's the best golfer in the world tee to green
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Originally posted by premierstone View PostSorry it was actually eagle eye, my bad , still dont think Lee has anywhere near a good enough short game to win a masters, or the mental fortitude for that matter.
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After much deliberation with myself, my bets before the start of the tournament will be on Jason Day & Sean O'Haire, both e/w obv. Don't see Lee Westwood doing any damage . . Looking into backing Donald too.
Betting in running more fun though :|
Might be stubborn though and do something on Henrik Stenson aswel. Guy has been playing horribly up to a few weeks ago. Always had a soft spot for him. :|
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I like Hunter Mahan and Luke Donald both e/w.
Mahan is in form and has gone close before.
Donald has a pretty good record at the Masters.
If Tiger Is'nt in the mix I'll be very surprised, even when he's spraying all over the place he still seems go close to winning at augusta.
As for who has the best swing i think its between Kenny Perry and Jim Furyk.
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been following westwood closely last few tournaments havnt seen the stats
but have to say his short game looks a lot better this year particulary his chipping around the greens but would be worried enough about his putting around augusta to probably put me off backing him
cant have rory at the price but wouldnt be laying him either, dont think theres value in any of the favourites so will be looking at the other markets for some value bets
was watching the sicilian open earlier what a great looking course
lumped on colsaerts really think he s capable of fulfilling the potential he showed a few years
ago, really think he s going to be a moneyspinner for me for the rest of season
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What about cabrera..playing like god yesterday in the states and has a decent record at augusta...seems to be his modus operandi to play next to nothing for a season or two then pop up and win a major. Plus i always liked the fact that he looks like he just has walked out of the pub for a few holes of golf.
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To be no1 31 Dec 2012, betting VC
The 50/1 Hunter for the Masters is tempting and will probably be into around 33s by kick off. He is in better form this year then last but is double the price. The big negative is he chips the ball like a 20 handicapper.
The more I look at it, the more I'm getting drawn to Tiger.
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Originally posted by Jaysoose View PostWhat about cabrera..playing like god yesterday in the states and has a decent record at augusta...seems to be his modus operandi to play next to nothing for a season or two then pop up and win a major. Plus i always liked the fact that he looks like he just has walked out of the pub for a few holes of golf.
had small interests in Fran Moli and Garrigus at around 400s
also backed Kaymer at 90/1
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Originally posted by nicnicnic View PostTo be no1 31 Dec 2012, betting VC
The 50/1 Hunter for the Masters is tempting and will probably be into around 33s by kick off. He is in better form this year then last but is double the price. The big negative is he chips the ball like a 20 handicapper.
The more I look at it, the more I'm getting drawn to Tiger.
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Originally posted by zuutroy View PostWas only talking to my old man at the weekend about that one. It's a tough one to price up given how erratic he is. I'd guess 10/1 maybe...
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Originally posted by Hurricane Fly View PostI wonder how Tigers career would have turned out if his name was Eldrick Woods from the off. No TW caps and trademarks and nobody would have given a toss about him. It's all in the name
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Originally posted by nicnicnic View PostIDK is the honest answer, but I think he'll do it.
Only betting I've seen on it is from ladbrokes and that's 3/1 to get to 19 or more majors.
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Originally posted by zuutroy View Post3/1 seems very tight imo.'Mental Toughness is doing the right thing for the team when it's not the best thing for you' - Bill Belichick
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Originally posted by Hurricane Fly View PostSure there might not be anything to bet on when this season is over'Mental Toughness is doing the right thing for the team when it's not the best thing for you' - Bill Belichick
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Originally posted by eagle eye View PostAgreed, he has two majors in the last 4 years, at that rate he would be 44 by the time he ties Jack Nicklaus. Its unlikely he makes it unless he gets his skates on over the next 6 years. I would wait and watch how his season unfolds before I'd be interested in having a pop at that.
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I think it'll be a feast or a famine. If he can get over the mental hurdle and win another one, the flood gates should open. He's as likely to win 26 as 16!
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If tiger can recover from his career slump like westwood and stricker recovered from theirs then i think he will easily get past 20 majors.
I had him backed last week and he easily beat a good field while coasting through the final round. His stats were really good and with the confidence from winning back, hes a danger to all.
Personally i hope he puts rory in his place. I was a rory fan until the irish open last year in killareney where he acted like a spoilt arrogant kid in comparison to mcdowell who acted like a classy and genuine guy.
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Originally posted by pocket9s View PostIf tiger can recover from his career slump like westwood and stricker recovered from theirs then i think he will easily get past 20 majors.
I had him backed last week and he easily beat a good field while coasting through the final round. His stats were really good and with the confidence from winning back, hes a danger to all.
Personally i hope he puts rory in his place. I was a rory fan until the irish open last year in killareney where he acted like a spoilt arrogant kid in comparison to mcdowell who acted like a classy and genuine guy.
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I followed him and mcdowell for a few holes and both were playing bad, +3 for 4 holes or something like that.
It was just his attitude, walking from greens to the next tee, there would loads of kids screaming and he would sulk along with his head down. Then on the tee box banging his driver on the ground because there was a little noise when he was preparing for his tee shot.
Mcdowell was the complete opposite, smiling at the kids, thanking people who were cheering him and just carried himself in such a polite manner.
It just irked me, maybe im wrong, he might have just been having a rough day.
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