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    can he call

    im UTG with A 9 clubs 117k
    sm blind 30 k
    bb 38k
    button 170k

    blinds 3k 6k

    i open shove and button calls me with AK

    two tickets IWF up for grabs, cant understand his call
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    #2
    Why did you shove? Seems bad. Min open and fold to his shove is much better, or call the shove from the blinds.

    I fold in his shoes, his ticket is locked up pretty much but you also have to realise that a lot of players, especially in sats like this since they're usually live players, don't understand satellite strategy and play them as a normal MTT. This makes the shove by you even worse.

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      #3
      Yes he can and should.

      The shove with A9 is bad though.

      Min raise commit to the two shortys if the chipleader isnt that good and wont exploit you when the shortys fold.
      Maybe just open fold if the chipleader is a decent reg or seems to be playing good.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Laois Hammer View Post
        Yes he can and should.
        Is his ticket not gtd at this stage with the stacks?

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          #5
          Your shove is awful. Anything else would of been better.

          There is almost zero chance you here doing this with a hand that AK isn't good against. Mostly likely, that because he is already a big chip leader, that the equity gain is insignificant compared to the loss and a fold is correct.
          But that's a rather minor point along side your open shove.

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            #6
            lol

            your shove is awful
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              #7
              Minr and snap a shove from the blinds.
              Pining for Wa'erford

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                #8
                Originally posted by CarlowPoker View Post
                im UTG with A 9 clubs 117k
                sm blind 30 k
                bb 38k
                button 170k

                blinds 3k 6k

                i open shove and button calls me with AK

                two tickets IWF up for grabs, cant understand his call
                Id have folded ak in his position but he sees ak and says snap.
                Rasie small folding toa raise from him liek everyone has said and call shortys push is way to go.
                In some games you have to realise people dont do rational things
                i think his call is poor but shoving is worse but think given stack sizes yodu expect him too fold everything but kk AA nad maybe QQ

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Caf View Post
                  Why did you shove? Seems bad. Min open and fold to his shove is much better, or call the shove from the blinds.

                  I fold in his shoes, his ticket is locked up pretty much but you also have to realise that a lot of players, especially in sats like this since they're usually live players, don't understand satellite strategy and play them as a normal MTT. This makes the shove by you even worse.
                  This times 10!!!

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                    #10
                    i fully acknowledge that my shove was a horrible play. I had gone short stacked and built up my stack with serious aggression but forgot to change gears lol
                    But i couldnt understand his call
                    http://paullucey.blogspot.com/

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by CarlowPoker View Post
                      i fully acknowledge that my shove was a horrible play. I had gone short stacked and built up my stack with serious aggression but forgot to change gears lol
                      But i couldnt understand his call
                      Unless this is 4-handed with 2 paid I don't see any reason why you a) shove and b) expect a monster to fold. Even 4-handed I wouldn't shove with BTN covering tbh, r/f vs BTN, r/c vs blinds, easy game
                      "c'est en faisant n'importe quoi qu'on devient n'importe qui"

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                        #12
                        Was watching this Paul (went out 7th). I think your shove was very rash.

                        If I'm correct, this is the same guy who called off my 1010 3-bet shove with A8.

                        He has you covered & even if he loses he is still a clear 2nd in chips with 2 tickets.

                        Two many 3x turbos on Stars for you giving you bad habits

                        I know a certain IPBers missus who I'm sure was happy with the outcome to your left.
                        Last edited by Dice75; 25-10-11, 11:07.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Winning! View Post
                          Unless this is 4-handed with 2 paid I don't see any reason why you a) shove and b) expect a monster to fold. Even 4-handed I wouldn't shove with BTN covering tbh, r/f vs BTN, r/c vs blinds, easy game
                          it was 4 handed with 2 tickets
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dice75 View Post
                            Was watching this Paul (went out 7th). I think your shove was very rash.

                            If I'm correct, this is the same guy who called off my 1010 3-bet shove with A8.

                            He has you covered & even if he loses he is still a clear 2nd in chips with 2 tickets.

                            Two many 3x turbos on Stars for you giving you bad habits

                            I know a certain IPBers missus who I'm sure was happy with the outcome to your left.
                            you are correct, it was very rash and im sure all those 3x turbos didnt help. As i said got caught up in the agg action and was playing more tables than i am comfortable with.

                            This was the same guy that called you off, but any reasonable player would have folded with a ticket locked up , i think i would fold JJ in his spot
                            http://paullucey.blogspot.com/

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by CarlowPoker View Post
                              you are correct, it was very rash and im sure all those 3x turbos didnt help. As i said got caught up in the agg action and was playing more tables than i am comfortable with.

                              This was the same guy that called you off, but any reasonable player would have folded with a ticket locked up , i think i would fold JJ in his spot
                              Online he should be folding Aces!
                              Huh, Math my dear boy is nothing more than the lesbian sister of biology.

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