Been debating whether to write this for a while but I suck so bad at MTT's online. Dont think im too bad live and I'm a definite winner but I don't know what it is with online but I cant manage to do anything online. Welcome to any suggestions as in what to read books wise and what videos to watch. Would love coaching but only have a part time job so hardly have the money too. Any help would be grately appreciated
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Originally posted by tipp86 View PostIm not fantastic but il rail you playing online some night maybe 1 or 2 others may do so aswell and we may find some leaks in your game. If this is of interest to you.
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Originally posted by MBMurf View PostIts up to yourself really thanks for the offer I'll prob get back into the SNG's n study them alot n dabble in the odd mtt and see where im going wrong. Anybody have any thoughts on where I should start reading or videos wise?Pm for rakeback deals
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Originally posted by tipp86 View PostIt depends what your level is really, reading somenthing like Harrington on holdem could be beneficial for some people. I would say post lots of hands on here and read how others play hands you really cant beat it.
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Post some hands you had a problem with and see what other people think
do you find yourself losing big stacks with pocket pairs/AJ+ hands
have u any stats on you play from position?
do you end up with shoving stacks like 3-7 bb when there is still alot of tables in the tourny?
etc posting some hands would help you no end
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Originally posted by pgodkin View PostPost some hands you had a problem with and see what other people think
do you find yourself losing big stacks with pocket pairs/AJ+ hands
have u any stats on you play from position?
do you end up with shoving stacks like 3-7 bb when there is still alot of tables in the tourny?
etc posting some hands would help you no end
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Originally posted by MBMurf View PostReally have to sort out HEM quickly and will report back. I'd say its the usual playing hands OOP that I shouldnt be. Have to stop leaking money bvb but short stack I think I play very well but I lack the ability to chip up throughout a tournament
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Originally posted by pgodkin View PostTry writing out your opening hand range's for each position check this of the standard Preflop rasing charts (google that) do not open limp at all and try to be more aggressive post flop c bet more when you think the board has missed others in the hand, obv this isnt when you short stack less that 15bb this kind of stack u should be just shoving!
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Originally posted by MBMurf View PostYe of course and limping seems to be the worst thing to do. How do you feel about raising near the button when theres a lot of limpers in the pot?
Blinds are 100-200 you have 5500 stack in all the hands 9 handed
button with KK no limpers whats your raise
utg with 88
mp with AJ 1 limper utg
button with A5 no limpersPm for rakeback deals
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Originally posted by tipp86 View PostImpossible to answer. How deep are we? How strong is our hand?
Blinds are 100-200 you have 5500 stack in all the hands 9 handed
button with KK no limpers whats your raise
utg with 88
mp with AJ 1 limper utg
button with A5 no limpers
3. 600
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Entraction - €0.50+0.05|150/300 NL (10 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
UTG+1: 7,105.00
MP: 5,410.00
MP+1: 1,266.00
CO: 11,870.00
BTN: 7,880.00
SB: 12,033.00
Hero (BB): 2,366.00
UTG: 12,070.00
SB posts SB 150.00, Hero posts BB 300.00
Pre Flop: (450.00) Hero has 5:heart: 8:diamond:
fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 150.00, Hero checks
Flop: (600.00, 2 players) 8:heart: 6:club: 4:heart:
SB bets 300.00, Hero raises to 2,066.00 and is all-in, SB calls 1,766.00
Turn: (4732.00, 2 players) 9:spade:
River: (4732.00, 2 players) Q:spade:
what do you think of this hand
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Originally posted by pgodkin View PostEntraction - €0.50+0.05|150/300 NL (10 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
UTG+1: 7,105.00
MP: 5,410.00
MP+1: 1,266.00
CO: 11,870.00
BTN: 7,880.00
SB: 12,033.00
Hero (BB): 2,366.00
UTG: 12,070.00
SB posts SB 150.00, Hero posts BB 300.00
Pre Flop: (450.00) Hero has 5:heart: 8:diamond:
fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 150.00, Hero checks
Flop: (600.00, 2 players) 8:heart: 6:club: 4:heart:
SB bets 300.00, Hero raises to 2,066.00 and is all-in, SB calls 1,766.00
Turn: (4732.00, 2 players) 9:spade:
River: (4732.00, 2 players) Q:spade:
what do you think of this hand
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Originally posted by pgodkin View PostEntraction - €0.50+0.05|150/300 NL (10 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
UTG+1: 7,105.00
MP: 5,410.00
MP+1: 1,266.00
CO: 11,870.00
BTN: 7,880.00
SB: 12,033.00
Hero (BB): 2,366.00
UTG: 12,070.00
SB posts SB 150.00, Hero posts BB 300.00
Pre Flop: (450.00) Hero has 5:heart: 8:diamond:
fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 150.00, Hero checks
Flop: (600.00, 2 players) 8:heart: 6:club: 4:heart:
SB bets 300.00, Hero raises to 2,066.00 and is all-in, SB calls 1,766.00
Turn: (4732.00, 2 players) 9:spade:
River: (4732.00, 2 players) Q:spade:
what do you think of this hand
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Originally posted by MBMurf View PostIts up to yourself really thanks for the offer I'll prob get back into the SNG's n study them alot n dabble in the odd mtt and see where im going wrong. Anybody have any thoughts on where I should start reading or videos wise?
iam like you now and have gone back playing the mttsng's, i play 6-8 of them a night last about 2 hrs and are pretty soft.
just need to sort out my push/fold ranges and i could see myself building a nice roll out of these fairly easy
in short i found mtts heart breaking.
"Remember the time he ate my goldfish? And you lied and said I never had goldfish. Then why did I have the bowl, Bart? Why did I have the bowl?"
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Originally posted by peterswellman View PostHave to think villian is trapping? Surely he jams so, so much if he's anyway competent. If he has been limping in previous to this and not really understanding the dynamic's of BVB I just shove pre.
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Originally posted by MBMurf View PostNever thought of shoving pre actually prob best move again depending on how active he has been bvb and we have enough behind to make him fold
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Originally posted by Angry-Ball View Posti gave up on mtts at the end of last year when i just had it up to my eyeballs with the fucking things, i even got a bit of coaching but just got dissheartened in the end. i practically gave up poker for the first 5-6mths of the year and only played an odd tournie here and there.
iam like you now and have gone back playing the mttsng's, i play 6-8 of them a night last about 2 hrs and are pretty soft.
just need to sort out my push/fold ranges and i could see myself building a nice roll out of these fairly easy
in short i found mtts heart breaking.Attached Files
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Originally posted by The Hurricane View PostSo he should muck his BB after the SB completes.
You need to get away from Bubbleking, he's frying your head
What is he limping with here with our stack?
Hes clearly trapping.
FWIW Tony has improved my game by heaps and bounds since it started.
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Originally posted by A_CitizenErased View PostNo.
What is he limping with here with our stack?
Hes clearly trapping.
FWIW Tony has improved my game by heaps and bounds since it started.
Have you read the HH? Read it again. Is he clearly limping to trap with a flush?
edit, lol it's me who's reading it wrong, carry on but you are wrong all the same. Great spot to get it in.Last edited by Caf; 23-08-11, 22:06.
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Originally posted by A_CitizenErased View PostNo.
What is he limping with here with our stack?
Hes clearly trapping.
FWIW Tony has improved my game by heaps and bounds since it started.
unless we have information that says villian is a competent player we cannot assume that he is trapping. small stakes mtts are full of bad players who will complete the small blind with any two cards just to see if the hit something on the flop.
in the hand in question hero was bb and short stacked he got a free look at a flop and hit top pair,he is a fool if he dosn't get it in here.
"Remember the time he ate my goldfish? And you lied and said I never had goldfish. Then why did I have the bowl, Bart? Why did I have the bowl?"
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Originally posted by peterswellman View PostHave to think villian is trapping? Surely he jams so, so much if he's anyway competent. If he has been limping in previous to this and not really understanding the dynamic's of BVB I just shove pre.
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Originally posted by A_CitizenErased View PostNo.
What is he limping with here with our stack?
Hes clearly trapping.
FWIW Tony has improved my game by heaps and bounds since it started.
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Originally posted by Angry-Ball View Posti would call this seriously flawed
unless we have information that says villian is a competent player we cannot assume that he is trapping. small stakes mtts are full of bad players who will complete the small blind with any two cards just to see if the hit something on the flop.
in the hand in question hero was bb and short stacked he got a free look at a flop and hit top pair,he is a fool if he dosn't get it in here.
Woopsies.
Scrap the lot I said heh heh
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Originally posted by The Hurricane View PostHe's not clearly trapping. People tend to complete a lot when it's folded around and not everyone of them are trapping.
Read wrong.
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Based on your few entries in this thread MB you sound like you have a decent understanding of some of the basics: betsizing, limping & bvb dynamics.
I wouldn't bother reading a book tbh, just check in here once a day give your opinion on whatever hand histories have been posted, read others' opinions and learn from the likes of digiman, line us, roadsweeper, caf, etc.
The skype thing sounds very good too. Something I'll probably get into soon.
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Originally posted by Winning! View PostNo money in MTT's Everyone's solid.
iam going withdrawing my 250k of pokerstars no point in carrying on
"Remember the time he ate my goldfish? And you lied and said I never had goldfish. Then why did I have the bowl, Bart? Why did I have the bowl?"
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Originally posted by A_CitizenErased View PostI actually thought it said 50./1 game, thats where I went wrong.Originally posted by The Hurricane View PostSerious stacks for 100nlOriginally posted by A_CitizenErased View PostMy main mistake here was reading the game as 50c/1euro game.
Woopsies.
Scrap the lot I said heh heh
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Originally posted by FeetMagic View PostRe levels?
I just think that a statement like that (as in winnings post) isn't true. Ok lots of competent players out there, not everyone though, certainly not in my experience....(albeit brief enough)
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Originally posted by Caf View PostI'm pretty sure Winning was taking the piss, nearly 100% positive.
Epic thread for those who didn't get the reference;
"c'est en faisant n'importe quoi qu'on devient n'importe qui"
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Save and get good coaching, also prescribe to cardrunners when you save money. If not even with some advice on here you will still never beat the online game.Huh, Math my dear boy is nothing more than the lesbian sister of biology.
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Originally posted by A_CitizenErased View PostINo.
What is he limping with here with our stack?
Hes clearly trapping.
So how did you think it was 50c/$1.
If you thought that it was, then your above post makes no sense. 23 buy-ins deep, the other poster is trapping us by limping his SB. WTF
TBH, it looks like you realised your original post was bad when Caf and Angry-Ball called you on it and made up the 50c/$1 comment to save face. It doesn't matter if you did or not, your advice was equally bad at 50c/$1
I'm not having a go at you A_CE, want to be clear on that. Mistakes and bad plays happen to everyone. You made a pretty big post the other day about having made mistakes in hands and/or HH threads and that you want to improve. The first step to improving your game is admitting your mistake, not to anyone here but to at least yourself. That's the only reason i'm highlighting this.
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Originally posted by Mellor View PostIn this post, you noticed that he limped for 300, and referenced "our stack", i'm assuming you meant that we were short on 2366.
So how did you think it was 50c/$1.
If you thought that it was, then your above post makes no sense. 23 buy-ins deep, the other poster is trapping us by limping his SB. WTF
TBH, it looks like you realised your original post was bad when Caf and Angry-Ball called you on it and made up the 50c/$1 comment to save face. It doesn't matter if you did or not, your advice was equally bad at 50c/$1
I'm not having a go at you A_CE, want to be clear on that. Mistakes and bad plays happen to everyone. You made a pretty big post the other day about having made mistakes in hands and/or HH threads and that you want to improve. The first step to improving your game is admitting your mistake, not to anyone here but to at least yourself. That's the only reason i'm highlighting this.
In fairness, you're missing the main point...it's an MTT threadPining for Wa'erford
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Originally posted by peterswellman View PostI saw 50c and thought that was just the rake. Simple jam so.
In a .50c mtt, and indeed most small stake mtt's, most players will limp in the sb when folded to them (well on entraction they will anyway). I just shove it there pf for what its worth.
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To the op. You seem to have a decent enough knowledge of the game from the few posts Ive read where you have been answering questions. You reckon you are a winning live player, yet you cant win online.
Where I think decent live player fail at online is attitude. When you play a live mtt, you know each hand has to played optimally if your night is going to be successful. Some players cant transfer that line of thought to online play, because subconsiously, they know that if they make a loose call in x spot and they are wrong, they can just load up another game and start again.
Advice given by posters above about posting hands for advice is the way to go. And try and give the same weight to decisions in online mtt's that you do for live games, even if that means you only load up 1 mtt at a time online for a while.
Connie
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Originally posted by sligboi View PostIn fairness, you're missing the main point...it's an MTT thread
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Originally posted by connie147 View PostAre we talking about music or poker??
In a .50c mtt, and indeed most small stake mtt's, most players will limp in the sb when folded to them (well on entraction they will anyway). I just shove it there pf for what its worth.
I would normally shove ATC there in that spot against villian, as i was only playing one table he was nitty enough i dont know the math behind it but if i shove mt 2 odd k stack there it would have got through, ie he would of raised strong hands and limp folder all his other hands
Another point is i went broke in a limped pot big no no!
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Originally posted by Mellor View Posttourney hands are always posted in the cash forum, merge them back imo
Don't like the idea of merging forums though, surely they were separated for good reason.."c'est en faisant n'importe quoi qu'on devient n'importe qui"
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