Interesting hand from 2+2

[flushjee]

I seen this hand on 2plus2 and thought Id post it here to see what people think. The only two replies said it was an insta fold, but I thought it was allot closer

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Both are solid regs, 250+ hands on each of them, MP is 12/8, CO is 18/15. Shove, call or fold??


Hand 1/1
[hand_history]Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (150/300 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11931702

CO: 4,963 (16.5 bb)
BTN: 16,325 (54.4 bb)
SB: 7,399 (24.7 bb)
Hero (BB): 17,380 (57.9 bb)
UTG+2: 5,171 (17.2 bb)
MP1: 23,062 (76.9 bb)
MP2: 14,640 (48.8 bb)
MP3: 34,467 (114.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K A
2 folds, MP2 raises to 600, MP3 folds, CO raises to 4,938 and is all-in, 2 folds, hero s/c/f?

[FeetMagic]

I'm confused. I probably shove.

[peterswellman]

It's awkward because of stack sizes. Both are solid regs, right? For you to be jamming over a 12/8's raise for 15bb blinds, you would assume it would need to be a strong hand.

8% of hands is exactly: 88+,ATs+,KTs+,QJs,AJo+.

However, the real problem is, do we shove close to 60BB to iso? Do we CIB and then fold despite us having an absolute monster? Do we real do that well even isolating against a guy who is expecting to be called by the 12/8? Do you just call and call the 57BB shove effective with AKo versus a nit. It's purely awkward because of the stack behind us is nitty and we're awful deep and even time he overcalls we're fucked for 60BB in a relatively soft tournament when we can actually put our stack to much better use in better spots.

Nice spot for discussion tbh.

[Mellor]

Defo not an auto fold.

We beat both their ranges, the only question is how wide MP calls if we shove.