Hi,
I need some insight in this hand. I have heard time and time again that you can not declare your hand while there are still betting on a live table...
It is the nonsense rule of, you can lie but never tell the truth about your hand, I am thinking of.
Now this is the second time it happened and the first time I just let it slide and folded my hand when some Muppet declared he had KK and turned them over when we all folded to him.
This time it was a bit of a different scenario.
Cash table 50c/ €1 blinds and €3 straddle , I am second to act after the BB with K9 suited, I just call and so does two more players. The straddle raise to €6, we all call.
Flop comes rainbow 3, 9, 7, if I remember it right. The straddle bets €10, we all call. The turn is a 2 I think.
Straddle go's and pump it up to €50, so I say to him, you must have a over pair 10's, J's or Q's, where he replies and says no he has A's in such a way that I believe him.
I then say it to everybody on the table that I am calling him, because if he has A's his hand is dead as it is the same as exposing your cards.
Everybody after me folds, turn is also a blank, I check and and he turns over AA and beats my K9.
I never liked the rule, but at that stage it was about 4am and I had quite a few pints in me, the only reason for making such a move and thought I was in the right and call for a ruling.
Anyway long story short, they award the pot to the AA's.
Now I am not to mad about the ruling, because thinking of it the next day, it is just crazy, how can you lie about your hand but not say what you really have???
When I had a chat with the Casino manager he said he uses Roberts Rules and the the "You can not declare your hand on a live table" is a Irish rule that he does not use it. He said I tried to win the pot on a technicality and sure I was, other wise I would have folded against the €50 raise on the turn.
I searched the net and could not find anything about this rule, so what is the right way of handling this situation??
Cheers
I need some insight in this hand. I have heard time and time again that you can not declare your hand while there are still betting on a live table...
It is the nonsense rule of, you can lie but never tell the truth about your hand, I am thinking of.
Now this is the second time it happened and the first time I just let it slide and folded my hand when some Muppet declared he had KK and turned them over when we all folded to him.
This time it was a bit of a different scenario.
Cash table 50c/ €1 blinds and €3 straddle , I am second to act after the BB with K9 suited, I just call and so does two more players. The straddle raise to €6, we all call.
Flop comes rainbow 3, 9, 7, if I remember it right. The straddle bets €10, we all call. The turn is a 2 I think.
Straddle go's and pump it up to €50, so I say to him, you must have a over pair 10's, J's or Q's, where he replies and says no he has A's in such a way that I believe him.
I then say it to everybody on the table that I am calling him, because if he has A's his hand is dead as it is the same as exposing your cards.
Everybody after me folds, turn is also a blank, I check and and he turns over AA and beats my K9.
I never liked the rule, but at that stage it was about 4am and I had quite a few pints in me, the only reason for making such a move and thought I was in the right and call for a ruling.
Anyway long story short, they award the pot to the AA's.
Now I am not to mad about the ruling, because thinking of it the next day, it is just crazy, how can you lie about your hand but not say what you really have???
When I had a chat with the Casino manager he said he uses Roberts Rules and the the "You can not declare your hand on a live table" is a Irish rule that he does not use it. He said I tried to win the pot on a technicality and sure I was, other wise I would have folded against the €50 raise on the turn.
I searched the net and could not find anything about this rule, so what is the right way of handling this situation??
Cheers
Comment