your opinion on max buyin for NLH cash game

[Conno]

i recently heard of a casino that is introducing cash games for the first time.
the casino has only been running its poker room for less than a year now.

they want to start at a low level because most of there players are new to the game.
so the game will be a 25-50 cent game. which i think is great for getting new fresh players in to the game.

the problem is that the casino has said they are going to make it a max buyin of 20euro.
i have my own opinions on this and i would love to see what the general consensus is.

for example;
is 40bb max buyin too shallow for a NLH game?

does it change the dynamic of the game early on when everyone has the same stack size?

does it change the dynamic of the game if you buy in late with 40bb's and someone has over 100bb's?

does it make it more of a rebuy sit n go and take away from what a cash game is all about?

is it bad for the game or good for the game?

thanks for reading and i would appreciate as much feed back as i can get on the topic.

cheers
Conno

[Guest]

Casino will bust in 2 weeks 20 euro max buy in joke so they want to kill the players by rake?
i dont know how a game like this would be either profitable or enjoyable

if your oen of teh casino owners find some other venture to open nota good time for new casinos card clubs etc.

[bustamoves]

it reminds me of the ridiculous buyin rules in Casino De Barcelona for 1-2 nhle.

25bb max buyin!! and rake at something ridiculous, iirc 10% capped at 20!!

you could however come to a table where a few people have been around and reloading for so long that there is at least some chance of a deeper game but it means u have to double up once or twice to get deep urself


very frustrating set up.



much better have minimum buy in than max imo

[Conno]

[QUOTE=SICKPUPPY;322629]Casino will bust in 2 weeks 20 euro max buy in joke so they want to kill the players by rake?
i dont know how a game like this would be either profitable or enjoyable

i was thinking the same thing. not sure what the rake will be.but not sure if they will even cover dealer cost either.

[BrianN]

I would imagine a casino would struggle to run a game at these stakes profitably without a high % rake.
On the subject of a min/max buy in I think most live cash games should be min 30bbs max 250bbs.

[AndyFatBastard]

If it's only for a while while they're starting out, trying to get some punters hooked, it's probably not a terrible idea.

[tipp86]

Sneak chips on the table most players are stupid and wont notice obviously play 1 or 2 small pots first. I done this everywhere in the states where buyins were capped at 100bbs.

[Mellor]

Sneak chips on the table most players are stupid and wont notice obviously play 1 or 2 small pots first. I done this everywhere in the states where buyins were capped at 100bbs.

I did this when the cap in Sydney was low, its since been changed

[japeye]

Im all for trying out new things but this sounds too crazy to be true, a 20e max buy in.....just cant get my head around it.

I can understand doing summat on trial to get bums on seats but this to me is a sit n go with 20e re buys, only difference is you can cash out.

I cant see how the club could break even on this one. Of course its a little diff if there is other cash tables on the go in club to compensate this.

If its a case of introducing new ppl and novices to the game then a tourny format would prob serve best e.g £30+5. I think its a more win/win for both sides. It gives players value for money as well as a club experience with tables dealers etc. The club cover costs with reg.

Cash poker is a total different animal to tourny poker and with the format mentioned above it would just be a case of everyone at table sees flop and nothing learned from it.

At the end of the day the club is a business and has to make money so the rake would cripple it.

jus my 2cs

[BuChan]

lordy that game sounds GRIM!

[Conno]

they do offer a good range of tourneys, but they dont offer much in the way of more poker to play if you bust from a tourney.

i have mentioned to them that they are turning the game in to a sit n go that you can cash out of.
but they dont seem to want to listen for some reason.
it almost seems like they are afraid of breaking the players and them not ever comming back again.

but they have said that if players want to play a bigger game like 1-2, that they would be happy to run that game.....but again, there would be a 40bb max buy in.

there is no logic in there thinking at all imo!!!

[bohsman]

Min 100bb no max imo.

[BuChan]

think you'd drive off a lot of fish in 1/2 games if the there was a 100bb min. in that game not such a bad idea though.

[Conno]

my main issue with the game is the max buy in......the fish are welcome to buy in for the smallest amount they want to, as long as i can buy in for over 100bb's.

makes all the difference in a cash game imo.

[Donkathon]

is this the star bray your talking about by any chance?

oh and lol @ 40bb max buy-in

[Conno]

is this the star bray your talking about by any chance?

why do you ask?

[Donkathon]

only casino I know of running tournament & not cash is all.

was I right?

[iSnow]

only casino I know of running tournament & not cash is all.

was I right?

If this is the Star and my night consisted of getting donkey punched in the tourney, not being allowed to go to the pub on the break, or going deep in the tourney and having to join a cash table later on as a shortie...there would only be one possible outcome...