Not crazy about pre tbh. As played raise call flop. I'd prb check turn too and it looks like you've to fold now.
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@line us: How do you get away with playing so laggy at higher stakes. Are you not 3b to death? You also seem to cold call a lot.
Cheers for being so compassionate when I move up poker gods. Ye'er a sound bunch of lads.
IPoker Network $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 1054852
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BTN: $19.75
Hero (SB): $59.33
BB: $63.56
CO: $60.37
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with A A
1 fold, BTN raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $4.50, BB raises to $12.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $59.33, BB calls $46.83
Flop: ($119.91) 9 9 K (2 players)
Turn: ($119.91) Q (2 players)
River: ($119.91) 7 (2 players)
Final Pot: $119.91
BB shows J A
BB wins $117.91
(Rake: $2.00)Last edited by Guest; 02-12-10, 17:12.
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OK, it's Rush poker so that can mean everything or nothing. I have no notes on these players and nothing concrete to go on:
CO is an assumed fish. I have 1 hand on him. Open limped and bought in for random amount, so he's a fish.
SB is playing 13/9/5.0 after 47 hands.
BB is playing 22/13/5.0 after 24 hands.
I did think about raising the flop, but i kinda felt like I was bluffing with the best hand often enough if I did. I suppose I'm a favourite vs bigger flush draws, straight draws, overpairs etc and lose a lot of equity when I miss the turn, so getting them in on the flop is the best play."I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. Thompson
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@Zuutroy: Raising pre is totally standard. I'm building a pot and isolating a fish in position. The blinds fold, he calls, and then folds to my flop cbet so often here. I'd say this was a profitable move with ATC."I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. Thompson
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Making fish fold ain't how I like to go about business! I'd rather know a bit more about him before I got involved with a hand this weak.
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nah you want to isolate with hands that can have decent equity when they miss, good hands are ones like QTo, cos they can at least have 2 overs a bunch, J6s is a garbage hand for doing it, but it still could be profitable depending on the fish, but its definitely not a move that is profitable with ATC, at least I doubt it
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Just a Standard hand. What hands do you put the villian on here? Hes 28/8 over 12 hands and by the way hes playing, Im presuming hes a fish.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($41.18)
Hero (Button) ($25.35)
SB ($27.94)
BB ($25.35)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, K
1 fold, Hero bets $0.60, SB calls $0.50, 1 fold
Flop: ($1.45) K, 3, J (2 players)
SB bets $1.45, Hero calls $1.45
Turn: ($4.35) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $4.35
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Originally posted by zuutroy View Post@line us: How do you get away with playing so laggy at higher stakes. Are you not 3b to death? You also seem to cold call a lot.
Ya I get 3bet a fair bit but I wouldnt say much more than most and I try to adjust if I am so its not a problem really."Don't overcomplicate a straight forward game with mathematical bullshit and dicussing different lines with your geeky friends" Chris Olaafson
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Quick stats check from 5k hands played today and yesterday, anything dramatically wrong? Cheers..
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IPC Hand - fold or call?
Blinds 150-300 ante 50
Average stack c26k
Dice 13k UTG
Roy Brindley c23k CO
BB c24k
Brindley only at the table 6 hands
BB had previously called for 1/3 his stack against me with J10 on a 10 7 4 4 2 board when i had called his 1k flop & 1.2k turn bet and re-raised his 1.5k river bet to 4.8k (i was button with A7 - no raise preflop)
I raise UTG with As10s to 900
Call, Call.
Flop 6s7x9s
I lead for 2,800
Call
BB ships
Me?Last edited by Dice75; 03-12-10, 20:00.
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Originally posted by Dice75 View PostIPC Hand - fold or call?
Blinds 150-300 ante 50
Average stack c26k
Dice 13k UTG
Roy Brindley c23k CO
BB c24k
Brindley only at the table 6 hands
BB had previously called for 1/3 his stack against me with J10 on a 10 7 4 4 2 board when i had called his 1k flop & 1.2k turn bet and re-raised his 1.5k river bet to 4.8k (i was sb with A7 - no raise preflop)
I raise UTG with As10s to 900
Call, Call.
Flop 6s7x9s
I lead for 2,800
Call
BB ships
Me?
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Originally posted by Dice75 View PostIPC Hand - fold or call?
Blinds 150-300 ante 50
Average stack c26k
Dice 13k UTG
Roy Brindley c23k CO
BB c24k
Brindley only at the table 6 hands
BB had previously called for 1/3 his stack against me with J10 on a 10 7 4 4 2 board when i had called his 1k flop & 1.2k turn bet and re-raised his 1.5k river bet to 4.8k (i was sb with A7 - no raise preflop)
I raise UTG with As10s to 900
Call, Call.
Flop 6s7x9s
I lead for 2,800
Call
BB ships
Me?
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Button is new to the table, Lots of calling going on PF. So I called to set mine.
I had a hand I put him on. But tell me how I played this and where I shoulda changed
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds + t10 - 9 players - View hand 1057415
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UTG+2: t4875 M = 20.31
MP1: t8620 M = 35.92
MP2: t8899 M = 37.08
CO: t7073 M = 29.47
BTN: t3540 M = 14.75
SB: t5720 M = 23.83
BB: t6140 M = 25.58
UTG: t2815 M = 11.73
Hero (UTG+1): t6030 M = 25.12
Pre Flop: (t240) Hero is UTG+1 with 9 :club: 9 :diamond:
1 fold, Hero calls t100, 2 folds, MP2 calls t100, CO calls t100, BTN calls t100, SB calls t50, BB checks
Flop: (t690) 9 :heart: K :heart: T :club: (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t500, MP2 folds, CO folds, BTN calls t500, SB folds, BB folds
Turn: (t1690) A :club: (2 players)
Hero bets t700, BTN calls t700
River: (t3090) 3 :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets t2230 all in, Hero calls t2230
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Originally posted by MegaSin View PostSo do we never limp to set mine?
I probably wouldn't open 99 utg+1 but from MP2 (or so) I wouldn't mind limping behind one or two other limpers or opening an unopened pot.May you live in interesting times!
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Originally posted by Sledgejammer View PostYeah raise pre and bet more on the flop and a hell of alot more on the turn as played! I like the check call in the end.
Turn same thing really.
When I got to the river I figured I was under repping my hand alot and the rest played itself.
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Originally posted by MegaSin View PostI raised that amount making it look super weak hoping for a reraise so I can push and put him on a though position.
Turn same thing really.
When I got to the river I figured I was under repping my hand alot and the rest played itself.
You have the best hand here almost always, and still have pairing outs if he has QJ.
You don't want to put him into a tough position, you want him to call, never ever want him to fold here.
If you raise pre to 325/385, and get 1/2 callers or maybe even 3/4 the hand plays very easily postflop.
If you miss the flop, and there are face cards, c/f is fine. When you hit the flop, or the flop is low, you can cbet and bet and bet.
Set mining with 99 isn't the best play, its far too strong to not take the initiative with imo.
And you shouldn't be raising anywhere here once you bet the flop. If he raises the flop, its a call. And another bet on the turn, you don't want to give him opportunities to fold TPgK, two pairs, or combo draws.
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QQ about HEM HUD, I've not tried to change it in ages and have been tinkering with it today, does anyone know if there's a cold 4 bet stat you can include in the pop ups? All I've seen is 4 bet in general and then open - 4 bet which seems to be how often you four bet a three bet when you were the opener. Backraising a squeezer would be another cool stat for the pop up, anyone know if that's in there?"In the world, there are many kings but there is only one God. I am God, I am El Tren" :{)
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Originally posted by Sledgejammer View PostQQ about HEM HUD, I've not tried to change it in ages and have been tinkering with it today, does anyone know if there's a cold 4 bet stat you can include in the pop ups? All I've seen is 4 bet in general and then open - 4 bet which seems to be how often you four bet a three bet when you were the opener. Backraising a squeezer would be another cool stat for the pop up, anyone know if that's in there?
In other words, pretty inconsequential, and not worth space on your HUD. You'll never have a big enough sample size to estimate beyond gameflowiness.Foldaramus et foldarabimus
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Originally posted by TommyGunne View PostThis would probably be about as interesting as a stat telling you how often a shop has won the lotto.
In other words, pretty inconsequential, and not worth space on your HUD. You'll never have a big enough sample size to estimate beyond gameflowiness."In the world, there are many kings but there is only one God. I am God, I am El Tren" :{)
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Just moved up to playing 6 tables at 25nl instead of moving up to 50nl 4tabling. I found it very hard to concentrate and timed out a couple of times. It was my first time playing 6 tables though so it probably is to be expected.
So to keep playing 6 tables of 25nl or move up to 50nl and play 4 tables?
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Originally posted by Emmet View Postdrop a level and play 6 tables at smaller stakes for 2/3 sessions to get used to it. It will come..
You'll have to play shorter sessions, and will have to keep the focus for the duration, but it will come!
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Yeah play a couple more sessions of it then try a couple on 25nl then move up playing 6 if it gets comfortable, if it does by then it should be second nature to you, and you'll have a couple more BI for your shot all going well."In the world, there are many kings but there is only one God. I am God, I am El Tren" :{)
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Anyone have any script for ipoker that would make your standard open 2.5x if its folded to u, been opening to 2x for a while but wanna try 2.5x, too much hassle to type it every time when multitabling."Don't overcomplicate a straight forward game with mathematical bullshit and dicussing different lines with your geeky friends" Chris Olaafson
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Are we calling river here? Guy does all his 3b from the blinds and 3b all pocket pairs. With pos and small 3b I'll call here with this type of hand. I think I have to call turn as its ultimo barrel card. Should we call river?
IPoker Network $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 1068313
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BB: $63.50
CO: $50.75
Hero (BTN): $59.85
SB: $46.64
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with K 9
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, BB raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3
Flop: ($9.25) 9 4 8 (2 players)
BB bets $6.00, Hero calls $6
Turn: ($21.25) A (2 players)
BB bets $12.50, Hero calls $12.50
River: ($46.25) K (2 players)
BB bets $40.50
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Guy is agg enough over 40 hands...25/18/4
Do you bet turn? Also I think we have to call river?
IPoker Network $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 1068315
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BB: $50.00
CO: $63.00
BTN: $50.00
Hero (SB): $53.40
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with J :spade: J :heart:
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1
Flop: ($3.00) 4 :spade: T :spade: K :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $2.25, BB calls $2.25
Turn: ($7.50) 4 :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $5.62, Hero calls $5.62
River: ($18.74) 7 :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $9.37
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not so sure about that...all I know is he's 3b 9% in that spot and I've seen him do it with PP as low as 55.
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Yeah I hear what you're saying alright. I just find that people play so straightforward and are one-and-done with their bluffs (50% of the time here at least) that calling a heap of 3bets on the button is extremely profitable. If he makes it 5.50-6 and we're $50 deep I fold more often. And aswell as that, I have some equity!
My fold to 3b is only about 55%, and I'm 4b about 15% so I do call pretty wide, but I'm winning well enough when I do over a few hundred samples.
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Also why do you never run good when trying to go from barely rolled to comfortably rolled at a new level!
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20r mini FTOPS, hero? Thoughts on river sizing? CO quiet so far, other guy spewy and stationy
Full Tilt Poker MiniFTOPS Event #5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 6 players - View hand 1068353
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Hero (BB): t4430 147.67 BBs
UTG: t2078 69.27 BBs
MP: t5162 172.07 BBs
CO: t2220 74 BBs
BTN: t1820 60.67 BBs
SB: t2300 76.67 BBs
Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with 3 :diamond: 3 :heart:
1 fold, MP raises to t90, CO calls t90, 2 folds, Hero calls t60
Flop: (t285) J :spade: J :diamond: 7 :heart: (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks
Turn: (t285) 3 :club: (3 players)
Hero bets t180, MP calls t180, CO calls t180
River: (t825) K :club: (3 players)
Hero bets t390, MP calls t390, CO requests TIME, CO raises to t1950 all in
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