Bad beat/Moan/Venting Thread - BBV Archive 2

[KevIRL]

What are the French at? LOL.

Fair play to convert. Sick.

WTF were Tongas at though. Granted the win was all for them, but had they took the right options they could have got that bonus point win and knocked the French out

[KevIRL]

Matt Williams not holding back on Setanta.

[shrapnel]

WTF were Tongas at though. Granted the win was all for them, but had they took the right options they could have got that bonus point win and knocked the French out

this. they did all the hard stuff right but when10-15 metres from the line with 2 against 1 or 4 against 2, they forgot how to do a simple passl!!

[Strewelpeter]

stream for england scotland please

[CHDad]

We're going to the final.

/statement

[shrapnel]

We're going to the final.

/statement

Lol we might lose to tonga, we might lose to England, but we won't lose to Ireland

[LuckyLloyd]

The French will be literally unbeatable their next game. Seriously, fucking New Zealand could give them their best game and France would win.

[KevIRL]

Bit sick to think that if we lose our next game we'll go out despite losing less games and getting more points than the French.

lolJohnny also

[shrapnel]

The French will be literally unbeatable their next game. Seriously, fucking New Zealand could give them their best game and France would win.

I really hope you re right. I am so sick of this shit, and I hate losing to
England

[LuckyLloyd]

The Scotland / England / Argentina group has been magnificent. Rugby played the way the game should be played.

[Guest]

The Scotland / England / Argentina group has been magnificent. Rugby played the way the game should be played.

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missed kicks very few trys cynical ya a great spectacle allright

[KevIRL]

At this rate Wilkinson will be doing the next Pizza Hut ad with Stuart Pearce and Gareth Southgate

[LuckyLloyd]

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missed kicks very few trys cynical ya a great spectacle allright

I am genuinely enjoying it. The Argentina / England match was easily the most enjoyable game I've watched this WC.

[The Situation]

Do Scotland need to win this denying England a bonus point and hope Argies win with a bonus point win to qualify?? Not sure if I've got that right but it's a huge ask if so.

[KevIRL]

Do Scotland need to win this denying England a bonus point and hope Argies win with a bonus point to qualify?? Not sure if I've got that right but it's a huge ask if so.

If Scotland win by more than 7 they are through.

[The Situation]

If Scotland win by more than 7 they are through.

But if Argentina win without a bonus point tomorrow they'd all finish on 14 points. Does it not come down to points difference if it's a 3 way tie and in that case Scotland will go out unless they knock up a big score here?

[KevIRL]

But if Argentina win without a bonus point tomorrow they'd all finish on 14 points. Does it not come down to points difference if it's a 3 way tie and in that case Scotland will go out unless they knock up a big score here?

According to BBC

A win by more than seven points = qualification as group winners and likely quarter-final against France if Argentina fail to win against Georgia. Qualifications as runners-up if Argentina beat Georgia with four of more tries.

[Guest]

I am genuinely enjoying it. The Argentina / England match was easily the most enjoyable game I've watched this WC.

Its not free flowing but very tough hard fought rugby all right
scotland argentina was a clsoe hard fought contest as well.

[cardshark202]

How bad are the French or do they have a lot more to offer?

[Guest]

How bad are the French or do they have a lot more to offer?

They have excellent players but there manager is a lunatic who berates them in public and makes very weird and strange selections.
He seems to have totally lost faith with the players the depth of quality they have and the results they get dont add up
he will surely get sacked after the world cup.

[LuckyLloyd]

Its not free flowing but very tough hard fought rugby all right
scotland argentina was a clsoe hard fought contest as well.

And that's what makes it so good imo!

[LuckyLloyd]

YOU HAVE TO SCORE A TRY THERE!!!!

[Strewelpeter]

Wow Foden!

[KevIRL]

Deliberate knock on by Foden there? Am I missing something?

[The Situation]

According to BBC

A win by more than seven points = qualification as group winners and likely quarter-final against France if Argentina fail to win against Georgia. Qualifications as runners-up if Argentina beat Georgia with four of more tries.

Found all the permutations.

http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyuni...mutations.html


Here Press Association Sport looks at the permutations in Pool B:

:: England qualify first, Argentina second

- England win and Argentina win.

- England lose by less than seven points and Argentina win.

- England win and Argentina lose but gain more bonus points than Scotland.

- England and Scotland draw and Argentina win.

:: England qualify first, Scotland second

- Scotland win by seven points or fewer and Argentina lose.

- Scotland and Argentina lose but Scotland gain more bonus points.

- England and Scotland draw and Argentina lose.

:: Scotland qualify first, England second

- Scotland win by more than eight points and Argentina lose.

- Scotland win with a four-try bonus point and Argentina win without a bonus point.

:: Argentina qualify first, Scotland second

- Argentina win with a four-try bonus point, Scotland win by eight points or more and England pick up no bonus points.

- Argentina win with a four-try bonus point and Scotland win with a four-try bonus point.

:: Qualification to be decided on points difference

- Scotland win by eight points or more and Argentina win.

[LuckyLloyd]

Argentina could never stretch the gap beyond 6 points in the second half despite numerous chances to do so. If Scotland could get a try, we'd really find out what England are made of.

[LuckyLloyd]

Get it in and out here Scotland ffs.

[LuckyLloyd]

People can talk all they fucking want about the ball or kicking in general, but when O'Gara and Paterson are nailing these kicks for fun, Wilko and Sexton have questions to answer.

[Raoul Duke III]

The Scotland / England / Argentina group has been magnificent. Rugby played the way the game should be played.

, it's like watching paint dry

[KevIRL]

Jaysis Fernando Wilkinson finally finds his kicking boots

[Strewelpeter]

so is this not a bit futile then?
Scotland win by 10... even 20 and Argentina and England still go through on points

[LuckyLloyd]

, it's like watching paint dry

Maybe sport ain't your thing? This is another enthralling contest.

[LuckyLloyd]

Scotland will need a try, and I'm not sure they have one in them tbh.

[Strewelpeter]

People can talk all they fucking want about the ball or kicking in general, but when O'Gara and Paterson are nailing these kicks for fun, Wilko and Sexton have questions to answer.

I submitted to you on that one weeks ago. All kickers go through these patches, bad time for it to happen to Johnny again.

[Strewelpeter]

, it's like watching paint dry

Pure Rugby

[The Situation]

so is this not a bit futile then?
Scotland win by 10... even 20 and Argentina and England still go through on points

No not futile, if they do beat England by 8 or more they need Argies to either lose or win with a bonus point to qualify, but I imagine Argentina winning without a bonus point is the most likely result in that game and Scots would be knocked out in that case.

[LuckyLloyd]

I submitted to you on that one weeks ago. All kickers go through these patches, bad time for it to happen to Johnny again.

To be fair to Wilkinson, he's made two huge kicks to keep this close in the second half.

As an aside, Parks is magnificent kicking from hand at times.

[Strewelpeter]

Croft never grounded that, ball was still alive for scots

[Strewelpeter]

No not futile, if they do beat England by 8 or more they need Argies to either lose or win with a bonus point to qualify, but I imagine Argentina winning without a bonus point is the most likely result in that game and Scots would be knocked out in that case.

Oh yea of course!
Plus they would have the win of sending England off to face the AB's

[Raoul Duke III]

Pure Rugby

I'm finding myself rooting against both teams tbf

[KevIRL]

lol Scotland should never run a penalty unless its the last minute of the game

[KevIRL]

I'm finding myself rooting against both teams tbf

Is there any way for both of them to go out?

[Raoul Duke III]

inevitable dream-crushing coming, I can smell it

[Raoul Duke III]

Is there any way for both of them to go out?

next round should sort that out

looking forward to the expression on either coaches face as the ABs run in 50+ against these sorry crews playing negative percentage rugby

[The Situation]

You get the feeling that if they played to midnight, Scotland wouldn't get a try here.

[Raoul Duke III]

You get the feeling that if they played to midnight that Scotland wouldn't get a try here.

in their defence, at least they have a go at getting the ball into their outside backs hands

England...fuck, words fail me.

[LuckyLloyd]

Well, there's no justice in sport.

[Raoul Duke III]

inevitable dream-crushing coming, I can smell it

heh

[Zuroph]

"that is SOOO England". I got a bit sick in my mouth.

[KevIRL]

On the other hand, how great would it be if we could get to play this lot in a semi final

[Bubbleking]

Spastic who understands nothing about the game. We gave up attacking once O'Gara came on and played hard to get with the scoreboard. Nobody wins World Cups like this. Greece got the Euros, but that's it!

[LuckyLloyd]

So, Scotland got as close as a Garryowen landing just infront of the English posts inside the last five minutes, where a successful chase and try would have kept them alive.

Given the state of Scottish rugby the past four years and the depth and talent within their squad - that's probably fair enough.

[Bubbleking]

Id also like to follow this up with Declan Kindney is the best coach in the N Hemisphere - possibly the world

[KK82]

Chances of me leaving the apartment today: 20/1

I don't need much of an excuse to stay in and watch football all day on a Saturday, but if I did, this weather would certainly be it.

[The Situation]

Tomorrow is a class day of sport.

Ireland Italy to kick things off, there's the Prix de L'Arc meeting from Longchamp, then the best footballing derby in Europe- Spurs vs Arsenal and finally Juventus vs Milan

[KevIRL]

Tomorrow is a class day of sport.

Ireland Italy to kick things off, there's the Prix de L'Arc meeting from Longchamp, then the best footballing derby in Europe- Spurs vs Arsenal and finally Juventus vs Milan

And not a womans sport in sight!

[Zuroph]

In the bar for Outbreak Fest last night, zombie jesus came in, went to the bar and asked for a jug of water and 4 wine glasses!

[rounders123]

In the bar for Outbreak Fest last night, zombie jesus came in, went to the bar and asked for a jug of water and 4 wine glasses!

Was he charged corkage after the conversion?

[Iago]

Granted it's stupid o'clock but has anyone got any concrete or even crystal ball ideas on where the dollar is likely to go with regard to the euro over the next 3-5 years

for those that were still in bed at the unreasonable hour I posted the above originally.

Opportunity has come up where I could be taking a job that is based on dollars and I'm trying to get my head around the possible currency fluctuation impacts.

Looks like it's been fairly consistent with the dollar worth 72c -74c for the last three years ('09-'11), is that likely to continue or is anyone expecting a big move in either direction?

[V for Vendetta]

South Africa, NZ and Ireland are the only possible winners of the RWC to my mind. France have a great game in them but not a tournament. SA have started to come together quietly and with that afrikaaner self confidence Handling pressure and injuries are the key for Ireland and NZ.

It's getting tasty. The Irish backrow to deliver a complete game tmrw and the backs to start showing some teeth and I'll be a very happy bunny.