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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostYou cannot like the Wolfe Tones at any level without being a brain dead rabble rousing drooler.
Don't know if its as cut and dried as that for Celtic fans.Is that how you crash a wedding? yes it is, Bionic Barry, yes it is.
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Originally posted by bohsman View PostReading that article and this one http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-religion.html really drives home how retarded the celtic supporting wolfe tone listening anti McIlroy yokels are. When the Daily Mail puts you in your place it's time to give up.
Also, I think she hits the nail on the head, and I think I said it at the time after someone called him a hun, Rory is an Ulsterman, he's not a unionist, he's not a republican. I wouldn't at all have been surprised if a Red Hand flag had come out after the round.
Originally posted by Semibluff View Postjust worked out, could be miles off - but the gold card could be worth 2k+ to a first year in college?
(or a Kerry man found of partying beyond his years)
He genuinely mourned when it was discovered, and replaced with one with his name on it.
Originally posted by tylerdurden94 View Post
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Originally posted by eagle eye View PostI'm not trolling here by the way. I'm being very serious.
You can support Celtic and like the Wolfe Tones without being in any way anti anything. I think the Wolfe Tones were a very good band in their field. I like a lot of their songs and I understand what they are about too. I've always kinda liked Celtic as we have had many Irish Internationals playing for them. I don't support violence in any form. I know many Celtic supporters, some of whom would also like the Wolfe Tones who would never be anti-Protestant or support the IRA in any shape or form, new or old.
I find people who tar everybody with the same brush very annoying. I don't like the way you use the Wolfe Tones and Celtic in your post there. Its a hip trend these days on Irish boards to trash people who follow Celtic just because there are some gobshites who do follow them. There are as many idiots following Manchester United and Liverpool as there are following Celtic. I'm sure that plenty of idiots who hold warped views about these things follow the big clubs in England too.
The majority of Irish people who follow those clubs are sensible ordinary folk.
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Originally posted by Emmet View PostThat's actually a surprisingly brilliant piece of writing. Well written, not scandalous, and touching on a subject that many just see as taboo for an honest journalist to write about these days. Fair balls to her.
Also, I think she hits the nail on the head, and I think I said it at the time after someone called him a hun, Rory is an Ulsterman, he's not a unionist, he's not a republican. I wouldn't at all have been surprised if a Red Hand flag had come out after the round.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Emmet View PostJust finished watching this at Glastonbury, he seemed really upset that he couldn't handle some of the notes anymore. Still a class act.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqrKejQTynk"I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. Thompson
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Wartime = boomtime for lots of industries
Among The Costs Of War: $20B In Air Conditioning
The amount the U.S. military spends annually on air conditioning in Iraq and Afghanistan: $20.2 billion.
That's more than NASA's budget. It's more than BP has paid so far for damage during the Gulf oil spill. It's what the G-8 has pledged to help foster new democracies in Egypt and Tunisia.
"When you consider the cost to deliver the fuel to some of the most isolated places in the world — escorting, command and control, medevac support — when you throw all that infrastructure in, we're talking over $20 billion," Steven Anderson tells weekends on All Things Considered guest host Rachel Martin. Anderson is a retired brigadier general who served as Gen. David Patreaus' chief logistician in Iraq.
Why does it cost so much?
To power an air conditioner at a remote outpost in land-locked Afghanistan, a gallon of fuel has to be shipped into Karachi, Pakistan, then driven 800 miles over 18 days to Afghanistan on roads that are sometimes little more than "improved goat trails," Anderson says. "And you've got risks that are associated with moving the fuel almost every mile of the way."
Anderson calculates more than 1,000 troops have died in fuel convoys, which remain prime targets for attack. Free-standing tents equipped with air conditioners in 125 degree heat require a lot of fuel. Anderson says by making those structures more efficient, the military could save lives and dollars.
Still, his $20.2 billion figure raises stark questions about the ongoing war in Afghanistan. In the wake of President Obama's announcement this week that about 30,000 American troops will soon return home, how much money does the U.S. stand to save?
Dollars And Cents
The 30,000 troops who will return home by the end of next year were sent to Afghanistan in 2009, at a cost of about $30 billion. That comes out to about $1 million a soldier.
But the savings of withdrawing those troops won't equal out, experts say.
"What history has told us is that you don't see a proportional decrease in spending based on the number of troops when you draw them down," Chris Hellman, a senior research analyst at the National Priorities Project, tells Martin.
"In Afghanistan that's going to be particularly true because it's a very difficult and austere environment in which to operate," he says.
That means most war expenditures lie not in the troops themselves but in the infrastructure that supports them — infrastructure that in some cases will remain in place long after troops are gone.
"We're building big bases," American University professor Gordon Adams tells Martin. The costs of those bases are, in economic terms, "sunk" costs, he says.
"We're seeing this in Iraq. We're turning over to the Iraqis — mostly either for a small penny or for free — the infrastructure that we built in Iraq. But we won't see back any money from that infrastructure."
Then there's the costly task of training Afghan security forces. The Obama administration has requested almost $13 billion to train and equip Afghan security forces in the next fiscal year.
And more importantly, Hellman says, "[Afghan President Hamid] Karzai indicated a couple years back that [Afghanistan] wasn't going to be a position to support their own military forces 15, 20 years out. I suspect we're going to be called on to pay a substantial part of that bill going forward."
Criticism From The President's Own Party
For critics of the president, the idea that the troop drawdown won't save much money is reason enough to suggest it should be bigger.
One outspoken critic is Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV). He notes the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have cost hundreds of billions of dollars so far, and he argues a larger troop drawdown isn't a national security risk.
"We have the greatest special ops in the world. We have more technology than any other country on earth," Manchin tells Martin. "Do we actually need to have 70,000 troops on the ground?"
"When you have this many people in a country that doesn't want you there — that has no economy, no infrastructure and a corrupt government — and you're trying to stabilize it and build them into a viable nation? I'm not sure we have enough time, and I definitely know we don't have enough money," Manchin says.
But others argue war should be waged independent of cost.
"The realm of war and peace exists separately apart — and justifiably so — from the economic realm," says Lawrence Kaplan, a visiting professor at the U.S. Army War College, who says critics like Manchin are looking for "economic answers to a non-economic question.
"And anyway, it's not the war that's broken Washington's piggy bank," he adds, noting that Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security account for far more spending than the $107 billion the Pentagon says it will spend in Afghanistan next year.
A U.S. military tent after treatment with polyurethane foam. A 2006 test of the foam cut energy use by 92 percent, says retired Brig. Gen. Steven Anderson.
"Remember, we're talking about 30,000 troops," he says "I don't think that hundred-billion-dollar price tag should be the determining one."
Can Greener Mean Safer?
But for Anderson, the retired brigadier general, economics does have a role to play in modern warfare.
Anderson advocates for increased energy efficiency for military structures in order to cut down on the need for long, dangerous fuel-transport missions. A few months ago, Anderson heard from a company commander in Afghanistan.
"He literally has to stop his combat operations for two days every two weeks so he can go back and get his fuel. And when he's gone, the enemy knows he's gone, and they go right back to where they were before. He has to start his counter-insurgency operations right back at square one."
Anderson says experiments with polyurethane foam insulation for tents in Iraq cut energy use by 92 percent and took 11,000 fuel trucks off the road. But he adds there's a lack of enthusiasm for a greener military among top commanders.
"People look at it and say 'It's not my lane. We don't need to tie the operational commanders' hands' — things like this," he says.
"A simple policy signed by the secretary of defense — a one- or two-page memo, saying we will no longer build anything other than energy-efficient structures in Iraq and Afghanistan — would have a profound impact."
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Originally posted by Midnitekowby View Postcant find ur quote but if ur still wondering bout bubble play books, try kill everyone, elky has a great section called "how i learned to stop worrying and love the bubble"
also the winning poker tornaments 1 hand at a time vol 1+2 well worth a buy
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Originally posted by KevIRL View Post
I assume you have one, you seem to care about it a lot...
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Originally posted by Keane View PostWhat's your background in cricket Kev?
I assume you have one, you seem to care about it a lot...
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Anyone got any experience of the Sony Xperia X10? mate is giving his one up for cheap, would certainly be an improvement to the POS i'm using currently, plus gingerbread is around the corner apparently.http://mobro.co/zuroph
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Originally posted by Zuroph View PostAnyone got any experience of the Sony Xperia X10? mate is giving his one up for cheap, would certainly be an improvement to the POS i'm using currently, plus gingerbread is around the corner apparently.
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woot! ship the non bet on Corbetts horse. no money online or on cards to place bet, and too lazy to leave house to bookies, I took the gamble not to gamble.http://mobro.co/zuroph
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