Bad beat/Moan/Venting Thread - BBV Archive 1

[6starpool]

Chinese whispers in work can be so fucking tilting

Fran said "Cadburys Wispas in work can be so fucking tilting"

[V for Vendetta]

Anyone fancy applying for this job?




Very interesting position especially in light of this article.

[6starpool]

I think the main difference is that the pubs tonight won't be door to door United fans wearing United Jerseys cheering on Benfica. Last night you'd swear Liverpool were playing the CL final.
I did see an FC Cologne shirt, WP that lad. United fans LOL at Liverpool, the Liverpool fans SEETHE at United. That's how I see it but then again I'm biased.


Rovers versus Bohs this week. I'm in the strange position of not knowing who to shout for. Meh give us a draw please.

Roll back 20 years, and there is a great chance it was the complete opposite, although I can't really remember, and the less saturated football coverage probably meant it was a bit less obvious, but I'm sure that was the case generally then.

[Raoul Duke III]

As for Raphael, I wouldn't be too hard on the lad, it was a simple pull back , if you get booked for that in the middle of the pitch the game is fooked. Redic booking but I'm not going to debate that with the ABUs on here.

it was a blatant yellow and a stupid thing to do given his earlier booking.

I actually wanted Man U to win so we could have a rematch of last year's final.

[Solskjaer]

Roll back 20 years, and there is a great chance it was the complete opposite, although I can't really remember, and the less saturated football coverage probably meant it was a bit less obvious, but I'm sure that was the case generally then.

Not really, there was jealousy but there was never a thing called an ABL. That pretty much sums it up imo.
Only team I REALLY hated when I was a kid was Leeds, still do. Filthy feckers.

[Jackyback]

Fran said "Cadburys Wispas in work can be so fucking tilting"

Yeah that is exactly what was said for sure Think i will give up this work malarky and concentrate on sccoping the Lotto.

[ArmaniJeans]

Not really, there was jealousy but there was never a thing called an ABL. That pretty much sums it up imo.
Only team I REALLY hated when I was a kid was Leeds, still do. Filthy feckers.

Nah, as a Liverpool fan from the 80s, I think the vitriol was as bad, and there was definitely an ABL thing going on. I remember the pub going berserk when Wimbledon beat us in the Cup Final, when Michael Thomas scored at Anfield to win Arsenal the League.

The only reason it was less than the ABU-ism of today is because of the lack of the Internet/mobile phones, phone-ins etc.

[RasTa]

I'd recommend anyone interested in Banksy should go and see this, think today is the last day.

Link no working, it's Exit Through the Gift Shop (12A)

http://www.lighthousecinema.ie/index.php

[Solskjaer]

Nah, as a Liverpool fan from the 80s, I think the vitriol was as bad, and there was definitely an ABL thing going on. I remember the pub going berserk when Wimbledon beat us in the Cup Final, when Michael Thomas scored at Anfield to win Arsenal the League.

The only reason it was less than the ABU-ism of today is because of the lack of the Internet/mobile phones, phone-ins etc.

funny that I never heard of an ABL until I decided to be one recently.

I remember clapping Liverpool off the pitch when they beeat Forest 5-0 playing superb football,. I also grew up in a hotbed of Chelsea-Utd_pool fanbase
the slagging was always there but never the crap you see today. Bitter IMO

[ghostface]

I'd recommend anyone interested in Banksy should go and see this, think today is the last day.

Link no working, it's Exit Through the Gift Shop (12A)

http://www.lighthousecinema.ie/index.php

Never heard about this, would really like to see it but a 4.10 start i can't do. Will have to try and get it from other sources.

[careca]

I don't think Utd were unlucky to lose last night. They were the better team, no doubt, but it wasn't luck that cost them. Maybe stupidity (on Raphaels part) or bad tactical decisions on Fergies part (although he did pick a team/formation that went three nil up) but not luck.

[Raoul Duke III]

Greece is going down the tubes today

CDS spreads heading to 500bps

very bad news all round

[Raoul Duke III]

funny that I never heard of an ABL until I decided to be one recently.

I remember for one sweet week when I was six, the playground was full of ABIs and I mocked them all, Lucky Lloyd style

hubris, hubris

[V for Vendetta]

Greece is going down the tubes today

CDS spreads heading to 500bps

very bad news all round

And yet the equity markets rise and rise.....

[Raoul Duke III]

And yet the equity markets rise and rise.....

cash has to go somewhere

[LuckyLloyd]

Greece is going down the tubes today

CDS spreads heading to 500bps

very bad news all round

[Raoul Duke III]

here's FT Aplhaville on the subject of Greeks bearing gilts

[Wombatman]

He was in fine form last night. Prob posted b4 but wtf

[Raoul Duke III]

all sorts of mad rumours flying around:

- Commerzbank are refusing repo financing to Greek banks
- Citi have dumped 50% of their Greek bond holdings

one of those days where working in the markets is both terrifying and fascinating

[Guest]

Not really, there was jealousy but there was never a thing called an ABL. That pretty much sums it up imo.

So it was different because someone didn't think up a hold all catch phrase?
Ya that works! :smolleyes:

Main difference is back then the majority of fans actually played a bit and knew about a bit about it, now the "Sky Sports fan"(tm pending) has taken over and all they are doing is filling the hole that is their empty lives with a cheap polly blend shirt and a misplaced sense of belonging.

A bit too into it because they don't really get it in the first place!


Thing United fans either don't get or don't want to get is most ABU's (not one myself btw) are not "anyone but United", they are "Anyone But United Fans" (I tend towards being one of these, but so do some United fans I know)

as United fans tend towards being a pain in the hole, mainly due to most of them not really getting it (see above)

I have a feeling that last night yer typical 70's Scouse comedian finally forgave the Geermeenns for bombing there chippy during the war

[Solskjaer]

why do I bother trying to coverse with LOLLiverpool fans. I'll never learn

got WOlves to Kill

[Strewelpeter]

This is a fantastic piece of journalism from the Guardian a few weeks ago about this photo

[Guest]

why do I bother trying to coverse with LOLLiverpool fans. I'll never learn

got WOlves to Kill

I know, heaven forbid they don't agree with your right royal manc'ness

btw cheap way of trying to cover the fact yer caught in your own trap, the droolers will no doubt row in behind and defend your besmirched honour

[smurph]

I want rolleyes back....

[Raoul Duke III]

Greek CDS spread has gone to 650bps

the markets are basically saying that Eddie Durkin has more chance of completing his prop bet than Greece does of paying their debts

we're next

[Solskjaer]

I know, heaven forbid they don't agree with your right royal manc'ness

btw cheap way of trying to cover the fact yer caught in your own trap, the droolers will no doubt row in behind and defend your besmirched honour

[Guest]

Greek CDS spread has gone to 650bps

the markets are basically saying that Eddie Durkin has more chance of completing his prop bet than Greece does of paying their debts

we're next

The passport thing must be a government conspiracy to stop us all jumping ship at the same time

Last one down the docks close the door on the ferry to wales

[Strewelpeter]

all sorts of mad rumours flying around:

- Commerzbank are refusing repo financing to Greek banks
- Citi have dumped 50% of their Greek bond holdings

one of those days where working in the markets is both terrifying and fascinating

Where is the best place for plebs to watch it live

[Raoul Duke III]

Where is the best place for plebs to watch it live

MSNBC probably or Bloomberg TV

fucking nuts

[ArmaniJeans]

I have a feeling that last night yer typical 70's Scouse comedian finally forgave the Geermeenns for bombing there chippy during the war

Fokkers.

[Emmet]

MSNBC - http://www.atdhe.net/6268/watch-msnbc

[Strewelpeter]

One of my favourite Xkcd's ahs always been

[EARMUFFS]

these posts make my head hurt.

Berbatov - 37million pound striker. he is BRILLIANT. Any team, ANY TEAM, would be delighted to have him. Currently plays for a team challenging for the premier league and got to a champions league quarter.
Tevez - great player, plays for a decent city team trying to get into champions league, where berbatov has been of late.
Rio - 'on borrowed time' as captain of a united team that has got to two champions league finals and won 1, has like a gazzilion premier league winners medals, and will captain his country at the world cup... borrowed time, i think not.

in other news...
United dropped the ball when they sold pique to barca...

Ok i know its the morning after the night before and BBV has timing issues but your reply is LOL.
When Utd bought Berbatov i thought he would be a great signing as a striker, considering his record at Spurs. Normally you can allow a player a year to settle in(although in fairness a player like Tevez doesn't seem to have issues bedding in to the new team system) and so Berbatov gets a years grace on that gorund. Ferguson makes the decision to sell Tevez (believed he was overpriced) puts Rooney on his own up front for the most important games and Berbatov becomes a side issue to how the team develops this year. In my opinion Berbatov shouldnt have been brought on last night..Marcheda would have been a bigger threat to the Bayern defence with his style of play ie hassling,running at players and busting a gut to get into the box. In other words a tevez type player.
Your defence of Rio is bizarre? So what he has won titles before? His positioning since he hurt his back has been appaling and in the here and now considering Ferguson wants to win more quickly imo he will be on the way out with Ferguson already signing Fulhams Chris Smalling. Only an opinion mind you..
I agree with you on Pique..Evans must have got the nod over him..

[brianmc]

Greek CDS spread has gone to 650bps

the markets are basically saying that Eddie Durkin has more chance of completing his prop bet than Greece does of paying their debts

we're next

It seems very quiet over at the property pin. Should I be looking somewhere other than the Central Bank?

[Hectorjelly]

Never heard about this, would really like to see it but a 4.10 start i can't do. Will have to try and get it from other sources.

Let me know if you do, i'd love to see it but am busy today

[V for Vendetta]

It seems very quiet over at the property pin. Should I be looking somewhere other than the Central Bank?

The pin has been very quiet for the last while. A lot of the quality posters seem to have left the building.

[Raoul Duke III]

The pin has been very quiet for the last while. A lot of the quality posters seem to have left the building.

+1

its raison d'etre is basically fulfilled and accepted

[brianmc]

The pin has been very quiet for the last while. A lot of the quality posters seem to have left the building.

It always had a large number of car crash watchers (like myself) though. I thought they'd be out in force.

[Raoul Duke III]

It always had a large number of car crash watchers (like myself) though. I thought they'd be out in force.

tbh, they're more concerned (in the main) with the price of semi-ds in South Dublin

[RasTa]

On a lighter note did anyone spot Flushdraw?

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddx0Lyi0v5M&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

[ionapaul]

It always had a large number of car crash watchers (like myself) though. I thought they'd be out in force.

Me too - I've read it most days for the last few years, so scary how many of their predictions have come through, particularly when you realise what their predictions for years to come mean for the future in Ireland.

I'm still so worried about the government doing something suddenly like leaving the Euro and devaluing before I can get my savings and investments out - but I've been reasonably assured that they just can't do this overnight. For me, this is a truely nightmare scenario - much higher taxes I can live with!!!

[Lafortezza]

is maps.google.com acting a bit weird for anyone else?
I can't pan around the map, or search for a location, it just doesn't load.

[Iago]

Last night was possibly the worst day/night of football I've sat through in terms of overall disappointment, even more so than Rome last year I think.

United have all sorts of problems starting with needing at least 6 world class players to actually become the team they should be, and continuing through Fergies inability to admit he's wrong and change things mid-match and finishing with Carrick who cost us both goals last night as well as countless others over the course of this season.

If United don't win their 19th title this year, it'll be at least 3-5 years before they're in a position to do so again.

What I find hard to fathom is that this squad could have been the first team to win 4 leagues in a row, the team that brought the 19th title to United & a team that made 3 CL finals in a row...they would have carved legends for themselves from those achievements. Yet, there's been little or no passion or drive all season, and even last night when we needed a goal there was no busting a gut performances to try and deliver it.

but cest la vie, 5 games left, if we win all 5 we have a great chance of winning the league. Typical of my luck that the year I get tickets from UEFA, United don't make the final. I'll probably go to it anyway, a Champions League Final is a Champions Legue Final after all.

[Sledgejammer]

Xavi being awesome etc

The best Xavi stat was over the two legs he made 244 passes, he missed 15 of them. 15!! Considering he doesn't just pass it sideways and managed two assists over the two legs and constantly looks for through passes, that's remarkable, and I believe he also covered the most distance of all the players over the two legs. Messi will get the hype, sure, but as good as Messi is at attacking that's how much better Xavi is than his peers at mid field play, he's equally dominant in his field and equally worthy of being considered one of the all time greats in his role.

[carlop]

Ok i know its the morning after the night before and BBV has timing issues but your reply is LOL.
When Utd bought Berbatov i thought he would be a great signing as a striker, considering his record at Spurs. Normally you can allow a player a year to settle in(although in fairness a player like Tevez doesn't seem to have issues bedding in to the new team system) and so Berbatov gets a years grace on that gorund. Ferguson makes the decision to sell Tevez (believed he was overpriced) puts Rooney on his own up front for the most important games and Berbatov becomes a side issue to how the team develops this year. In my opinion Berbatov shouldnt have been brought on last night..Marcheda would have been a bigger threat to the Bayern defence with his style of play ie hassling,running at players and busting a gut to get into the box. In other words a tevez type player.
Your defence of Rio is bizarre? So what he has won titles before? His positioning since he hurt his back has been appaling and in the here and now considering Ferguson wants to win more quickly imo he will be on the way out with Ferguson already signing Fulhams Chris Smalling. Only an opinion mind you..
I agree with you on Pique..Evans must have got the nod over him..

Last night a Tevez type player was needed because we were playing one up front. That Tevez-type player is Rooney, and unfortunately he is injured. Even if we still had Tevez, we line up as a 4-5-1 in big European matches, and quite simply he wouldn't start ahead of Rooney.

This season when we have played a 4-4-2 Berbatov and Rooney have linked up very well. The berba-Valencia-Rooney axis has come up with a lot of goals. The only times we have really missed Tevez is games where we were playing 1 up front and Rooney was injured, or to have as an option off the bench when chasing the game.

For a club with financial problems, spending 35 million on a substitute who is a very good but slightly inferior version of Rooney would have been madness.

[Ace]

ship the €1275 for 5 numbers in the lotto!!



Beat, lost a 42/1 flip for €13m

ugh fairly sick bein so close and only gettin €1275

I want rolleyes back....

You know what this means???

On a lighter note did anyone spot Flushdraw?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddx0L...layer_embedded

Nope didn't see flushdraw - what time does he appear @.

[Maloney]

The best Xavi stat was over the two legs he made 244 passes, he missed 15 of them. 15!! Considering he doesn't just pass it sideways and managed two assists over the two legs and constantly looks for through passes, that's remarkable, and I believe he also covered the most distance of all the players over the two legs. Messi will get the hype, sure, but as good as Messi is at attacking that's how much better Xavi is than his peers at mid field play, he's equally dominant in his field and equally worthy of being considered one of the all time greats in his role.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sjmEfM1c88[/ame]

[Raoul Duke III]

Me too - I've read it most days for the last few years, so scary how many of their predictions have come through, particularly when you realise what their predictions for years to come mean for the future in Ireland.

I'm still so worried about the government doing something suddenly like leaving the Euro and devaluing before I can get my savings and investments out - but I've been reasonably assured that they just can't do this overnight. For me, this is a truely nightmare scenario - much higher taxes I can live with!!!

if you really are concerned:

fly to Germany or France, open a bank account

wire your cash there

bling blang blaow

[Solskjaer]

The day has come, my nemeses the vending machine is being hauled away , I looked on with interest as they unearthed that
Cash cow from our refreshment area. How many times have I done battle and lost only to come back for more punishment.
I have illegally shook the bastard until my spine nearly jutted out of my back and all for an afternoon bounty bar that was legally paid for but delivery blocked. Today I watched it being hauled off and I felt like one of the baying crowd shouting obscenities at a murderer being taken away to prison as I yelled over to the guys moving it. THAT YOKE OWES ME A FORTUNE. TAKE IT TO THE SCRAP YARD. They Laughed but little did they know the crimes that machine had committed as it sat innocuously in the corner. I'm dying for a bounty atm,, Damn I miss it already.

[Raoul Duke III]

feck, you and me must be the only two left in the country that still eat Bounties

also, had a hankering for a Frys Chocolate Cream the other day - got some land when I couldn't find it in the shop

[Guest]

All this talk of bounties reminds me of the time those terrorists put one on the head of Kofi Annan

SPOILER

[Emmet]

Dark Chocolate Bounties are unreal

[Opr]

All this talk of Xavi makes me miss Alonso so much. My favourite Alonso quote which is just so perfect.

Xabi Alonso makes this team tick.

There was a quote from the Daily Telegraph report after last Sunday’s match against Villa that I absolutely adore. “…The star of the show was Xabi Alonso. The Basque appears to operate in a vortex, time slowed around him so he always seems to have space. It is a rare gift.”

Rare to say the least. Alonso doesn’t move into space, he creates it from thin air with his positioning and close control, and has the vision to play a pass to any part of the pitch from anywhere else. He is an absolute artist – directing traffic seemingly without a care in the world, coolly spreading the ball wherever he sees fit to start the attack.

I’m reminded of a Renaissance book I read as an undergraduate called The Book of the Courtier. One had to have many talents to fit into a Renaissance court, but most important was:

“…To practice in all things a certain sprezzatura, so as to conceal all art and make whatever is done or said appear to be without effort and almost without any thought about it.”

That’s Alonso. That’s Alonso to a tee..

Opr

[carlop]

The best Xavi stat was over the two legs he made 244 passes, he missed 15 of them. 15!! Considering he doesn't just pass it sideways and managed two assists over the two legs and constantly looks for through passes, that's remarkable, and I believe he also covered the most distance of all the players over the two legs. Messi will get the hype, sure, but as good as Messi is at attacking that's how much better Xavi is than his peers at mid field play, he's equally dominant in his field and equally worthy of being considered one of the all time greats in his role.

I think it was Almeria who against Barca this year man-marked Xavi and Barca really struggled. I thought they'd drawn 0-0 but Barca actually won 1-0, I just remember a lot being made of it at the time.

I don't know if there are any markets available for it yet but Xavi for the ballon D'Or might not be a bad bet at the right price. My thinking is that if Barca win the CL, which at this point looks quite likely, and Spain win the WC which admittedly is no certainty, the Ballon D'Or will go to a player involved in both, and the obvious choice is Xavi.

[KevIRL]

ho ho ho

http://twitter.com/MasterchefGREGG

[RasTa]

feck, you and me must be the only two left in the country that still eat Bounties

also, had a hankering for a Frys Chocolate Cream the other day - got some land when I couldn't find it in the shop

+1 on the bounties, lovely things. Also the same on the chocolate cream, but I prefered the orange cream one as a kid.

[redzerdrog]

just playing my first game of rush poker wow its cool

[Wombatman]

is maps.google.com acting a bit weird for anyone else?
I can't pan around the map, or search for a location, it just doesn't load.

Tried different browsers?

[cooker3]

As for Raphael, I wouldn't be too hard on the lad, it was a simple pull back , if you get booked for that in the middle of the pitch the game is fooked. Redic booking but I'm not going to debate that with the ABUs on here. Unlucky is how I see the last two weeks .

It's a blatant yellow. It's not the contact which matters, that was fairly minimal. Ribery was on a very dangerous looking break. Rafael made no attempt to get the ball, all he tried to do was try to pull him back and stop the attack. Professional foul which is an easy yellow

[Raoul Duke III]

Reuters have a decent summary of the escalating Greek crisis

their government manages to make ours look dynamic by comparison (which is some feat)