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Originally posted by 5starpool View PostAfter all that you didn't do it? At least I got the small consolation from it of 4 points for a correct score prediction.
Originally posted by CHD View Post2218: Chelsea manager Carlo Ancelotti, meanwhile, has confirmed that new signing Fernando Torres WILL make his debut against Liverpool on Sunday, provided he is fit. "We will test tomorrow and the next day. If he has no problem, he will play against Liverpool." What a match to make your bow in for the Spaniard. What a match
Cannot wait for Sunday
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Originally posted by careca View PostOnly reason I was going to do the bet, was because we have a competition running here where you had to hit 11 goals exactly to win it. One lad had Utd and they were on 8, so I was only trying to give myself and out if he won (which he did of course). Decided to take the sweat instead. Had a small wager on Utd, Che, Ars treble at 5/2 so happy (and lucky) to get that one up.
Not being wise after the event but I was sure he would play (esp seen as its at SB). Also, he will get the first goal (cert imo). PP are giving enhanced odds on it (5s from 4s). Would never back against Pool but I'll have a bet on that.
Then next week in training the tactics will change and he starts from the Fulham game.
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Originally posted by daire View PostM&S had nice cheap suits ~18 months ago but dunno if they've got womens' ones
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Originally posted by SICKPUPPY View PostIonaPaul is from Tuam i think tis a desolate kip but probably has 5 or 6 supermacs with 5 euro snackboxes on offer.
Its 18 19 miles from Tuam to galway city by way of the N 17 also a catchy song about emmigration by the ;saw doctors.
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostI don't see how that analogy stands up at all.
Whether a person in Ireland should vote has nothing to do with the lack of effective democracy elsewhere imo.
The fundamental question I have remains: Why should someone vote?
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Anyone know what the story is with the new jobs in Full Tilt announced this morning? All techy jobs is it?
Never mind: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...288767701.html
cheers anyway TDLast edited by ghostface; 02-02-11, 10:34.
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Originally posted by oleras View PostDude, trust me, with my memory, it doesn't matter !!
Originally posted by Keane View PostLol
Also, on episode 6 of community and it's finally delivered
Gnight everybody
Originally posted by ghostface ste View PostAnyone know what the story is with the new jobs in Full Tilt announced this morning? All techy jobs is it?"you raise, i kill you" El Tren :{)
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meanwhile, back at the ranch
remember that boring stuff about capital flight I was predicting last year?
here's the numbers. €40bn alone in December.
Couple this with the ELA and it leads me to wonder if getting elected to government is really all that desirable...tipping point approaching."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by ghostface ste View PostDanny when you are out at Deepstack today could you let me know what the story is with parking in the hotel? Cheers."you raise, i kill you" El Tren :{)
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People should vote because it is a privilege to be able to and if you don't value it its very easy to lose it.
Other reasons include that IMO you cede your right to whinge about the government or the state of the nation if you do note vote, to balance out against all the droolers who vote. In Ireland your vote actually does count often down to the 10th transfer and beyond.
And I won't even bring up the one about better men than you having died to get you the right to vote.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by ghostface ste View PostAnyone know what the story is with the new jobs in Full Tilt announced this morning? All techy jobs is it?
Never mind: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...288767701.html
cheers anyway TD
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Morning folks.
Originally posted by hotspur View PostI was ready to dump Community after the 1st few episodes as I thought it was quite poor - lazy hack writing and unoriginal and repetitive "guy hitting on girl who doesn't like him" story taking up a large part of each episode.
But because people here like it so much I investigated further and consensus seems to be that it hits its stride and gets good in the 2nd half of the 1st season (which is 25 episodes long). So I'm sticking with it for now.
I will say however that the number of episodes lead written by a female writer is quite high. This is usually a bad thing.
The eps are a good length to throw on first thing in the morning to keep me from falling back to sleep so I'm gonna stay with it for another while.
Originally posted by Gilligan-Black View Postcheck outt that commute on friday evenings. Takes close to two hours
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Originally posted by Keane View Post
You're talking about driving from Tuam to Galway here?
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Talking of election slogans Fine Gaels is really poor.
'Lets Get Ireland Working' is boring and unoriginal, and is also too similar to 'Vote Yes for Jobs' that was used in LisbonII and which is now (probably incorrectly) derided.
Though I'm not sure how influential these things are on the voting public anyway.
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostPeople should vote because it is a privilege to be able to and if you don't value it its very easy to lose it.
Other reasons include that IMO you cede your right to whinge about the government or the state of the nation if you do note vote, to balance out against all the droolers who vote. In Ireland your vote actually does count often down to the 10th transfer and beyond.
And I won't even bring up the one about better men than you having died to get you the right to vote.Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostPeople should vote because it is a privilege to be able to
Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Postand if you don't value it its very easy to lose it.
Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostOther reasons include that IMO you cede your right to whinge about the government or the state of the nation if you do note vote, to balance out against all the droolers who vote.
Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostAnd I won't even bring up the one about better men than you having died to get you the right to vote.
Others please feel free to chime in.
We have grown up with a socially constructed perspective that exercising the right to vote is a good thing. There is a very good reason for the promotion of this view, but it breaks down and doesn't apply at the individual level. It's almost a paradox.
The only way, to my mind, to ethically argue for voting is by invoking Kant's categorical principle. At least if you do that then a genuine ethical debate can occur. But I enjoy discounting that in this instance due to pragmatic realism.
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Originally posted by ArmaniJeans View PostTalking of election slogans Fine Gaels is really poor.
'Lets Get Ireland Working' is boring and unoriginal, and is also too similar to 'Vote Yes for Jobs' that was used in LisbonII and which is now (probably incorrectly) derided.
Though I'm not sure how influential these things are on the voting public anyway.
Originally posted by hotspur View PostAgain, I just don't understand why a privilege being available renders it ethically encumbent upon one to engage in it. I could examples all day long why this position would be ridiculous if broadly applied.
Ireland's citizens will not lose the right to vote if *I* as an individual choose not to vote. It is not very easy to lose it. Ireland will continue as a democracy irrespective of any reasonably possible change in voter turnout.
Why? Your vote as an individual is 100% ineffective in altering the makeup of the Dail. It is analogous to suggesting that if you didn't pray for a sunny day then you have no right to moan if it rains. Both have no effect but merely the illusion of an effect. You as an individual are not balancing out "all the droolers", you are not affecting anything in any way. And I think one has a right to moan about all manner of things which one isn't actively trying to do something about. Such as poverty, war, and world hunger.
Just another variation of "You have the privilege so therefore it is an ethical imperative to exercise it".
Others please feel free to chime in.
We have grown up with a socially constructed perspective that exercising the right to vote is a good thing. There is a very good reason for the promotion of this view, but it breaks down and doesn't apply at the individual level. It's almost a paradox.
The only way, to my mind, to ethically argue for voting is by invoking Kant's categorical principle. At least if you do that then a genuine ethical debate can occur. But I enjoy discounting that in this instance due to pragmatic realism.
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Originally posted by Howard Finkel View PostIt's remiss of you not to award me the title."Worldly wisdom teaches that it is better for reputation to fail conventionally than to succeed unconventionally." - John Maynard Keynes
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Originally posted by Howard Finkel View PostI think its about time and i deserve the BBV thread title. Being the IPB flag bearer and most infamous member it's about time imo
"Remember the time he ate my goldfish? And you lied and said I never had goldfish. Then why did I have the bowl, Bart? Why did I have the bowl?"
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostIn Ireland your vote actually does count often down to the 10th transfer and beyond.
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Postmeanwhile, back at the ranch
remember that boring stuff about capital flight I was predicting last year?
here's the numbers. €40bn alone in December.
Couple this with the ELA and it leads me to wonder if getting elected to government is really all that desirable...tipping point approaching.
"Remember the time he ate my goldfish? And you lied and said I never had goldfish. Then why did I have the bowl, Bart? Why did I have the bowl?"
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Originally posted by LuckyLloyd View PostYou want the fucking title do ya? I'll give you the fucking title.
"Remember the time he ate my goldfish? And you lied and said I never had goldfish. Then why did I have the bowl, Bart? Why did I have the bowl?"
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I look at the voting thing a bit differently to you all. It is easy to get fixated on the way things are and decide that your vote is meaningless because the vast majority of people eligible to vote either sit at home or - worse in my view - go and vote for all sorts of crazy, uninformed reasons.
Leaving aside the reality that your individual vote is much more valuable in this system relative to other democracies, I like to go over and make an informed vote because I know if everyone kept up with a decent objective news resource for a few hours a week; spent a couple of hours researching what their candidates stood for; and then made an informed decision at the polls we would have a much higher standard of elected officials in a matter of decades. As such, I do what I feel any good citizen should. I'm not just toddling over to vote on the fly out of a sense of duty as some do, and I agree that such a move essentially amounts to a waste of your democratic privilege.
Particularly in a forum like this where we have many smart people with interesting backgrounds, it's a shame to think most of you aren't bothered to vote - because I reckon we would get a decent percentage of decently informed votes (or decently spoiled votes! ) if you were. The arguments put forward thus far for not voting are a very eloquent version of 'I can't be arsed'. That's cool, and to each their own. I just wish it was different though.
Also, because they changed the election date, it now appears I'll be out of the country. I need to register for a postal vote. How does one do this?"Worldly wisdom teaches that it is better for reputation to fail conventionally than to succeed unconventionally." - John Maynard Keynes
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Originally posted by hotspur View PostAgain, I just don't understand why a privilege being available renders it ethically encumbent upon one to engage in it.
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Ireland's citizens will not lose the right to vote if *I* as an individual choose not to vote. It is not very easy to lose it. Ireland will continue as a democracy irrespective of any reasonably possible change in voter turnout.
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Originally posted by hotspur View PostWhy? Your vote as an individual is 100% ineffective in altering the makeup of the Dail. It is analogous to suggesting that if you didn't pray for a sunny day then you have no right to moan if it rains. Both have no effect but merely the illusion of an effect. You as an individual are not balancing out "all the droolers", you are not affecting anything in any way. And I think one has a right to moan about all manner of things which one isn't actively trying to do something about. Such as poverty, war, and world hunger.
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Originally posted by hotspur View Post
We have grown up with a socially constructed perspective that exercising the right to vote is a good thing. There is a very good reason for the promotion of this view, but it breaks down and doesn't apply at the individual level. It's almost a paradox.
The only way, to my mind, to ethically argue for voting is by invoking Kant's categorical principle. At least if you do that then a genuine ethical debate can occur. But I enjoy discounting that in this instance due to pragmatic realism.Turning millions into thousands
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Postal & Special Voters
A Postal Voters list is prepared every year as part of the Register of Electors compilation process. Postal voting is provided only in respect of certain categories of persons as specified in electoral law. An elector registered as a postal voter may vote by post only and may not vote at a polling station.
The following categories of persons must be registered as postal voters:
* Whole-time members of the Defence Forces - members who live in military barracks may be registered either at the barracks or at their home address. Form RFC
* Irish diplomats posted abroad and their spouses - they are registered at their home address in Ireland. Form SV5
The following categories of persons may apply for registration as postal voters:
* Members of An Garda Síochána. Form RFB
* Persons living at home who are unable to go to a polling station to vote because of a physical illness or physical disability. Form PV1
* Persons whose occupations are likely to prevent them from voting at their local polling station on election day, including full-time students registered at home who are living elsewhere while attending an educational institution in the State. Form PV2
* Prisoners - any person detained in a prison pursuant to an order of a court may apply to the registration authority covering the address where he/she would have been residing but for the fact of their detention. Form RFG (for those who are already registered as an elector) and RFA4 (for those who are not registered as an elector).
A Special Voters list is also prepared every year as part of the Register of Electors compilation process. Those eligible to apply for special voter status are persons ordinarily resident at a hospital, nursing home or similar institution who are unable to vote at a polling station by reason of a physical illness or physical disability that is likely to continue for the period the Register is in force. Form SV1
Electors on the Special Voters list vote at their hospital, nursing home, etc. by completing a ballot paper brought to them by a special presiding officer who is accompanied by a Garda.
The statutory closing date for receipt of application forms for inclusion on the Postal or Special Voters List is 25th November each year, except in the case of Diplomats the closing date is 30th September.
A supplement to the Postal and Special Voters' list is prepared during the year of an election or referendum.
If you are eligible for the Postal or Special Voters' list but are not included, you can apply for inclusion in the relevant supplement to the PVS1, PVS2, SVS1
The latest date for receipt of applications is two days after the date of dissolution of the Dáil in the case of a general election or two days after the order appointing polling day for other elections or refernda."Worldly wisdom teaches that it is better for reputation to fail conventionally than to succeed unconventionally." - John Maynard Keynes
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Originally posted by LuckyLloyd View Post
Also, because they changed the election date, it now appears I'll be out of the country. I need to register for a postal vote. How does one do this?
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dichotomy: PP
Socialist Party are 4/1 to win 3 seats - basically this assumes Higgins (cert), Daly (1/3 shot) and Barry to be elected
but....in the individual constituency betting for Cork North Central, Barry is a 4\1 shot. I'll be having some of that. No way is Billy Kelleher anything close to a 1/12 cert."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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