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Originally posted by Solksjaer! View PostCan you advise where we are going wrong with the ol hurling?
Also without knowing anything whatsoever about it Foptball far more popular than hurling in dublin
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Originally posted by Kayroo View Post1982
Two semi finals
Kerry v Galway - Kerry going for 5-in-a-row. 25,111 people.
Armagh v Offaly - Offaly the previous year's finalists - 17,523 people.
1986
Two semi finals
Kerry v Meath - 45,405 people in attendance
Tyrone v Galway - 26, 644
'82 and '86 is a long reach into a past recession that struggles hard for relevance.
Fact is that up to the bust in 2007 championship had grown to 20K per game average and since then right through the recovery there has been a steady decline to 13K per year.
Originally posted by Kayroo View PostAlarm bells won't go off because there's no need.
Well actually, in the broader context of what the GAA is for you might be right, if their aim is to be an amateur game that is run for the clubs and the players then it is heading in the right direction.
If they want to be a sport that people want to watch, an entertainment product that will finance those clubs and young players then they are heading for very big trouble.
Most pubs in Dublin today had the main focus of their screens and the vast majority of their customers tuned in to soccer.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by PSV58 View PostHurlings a more skillful game. Ye might get there eventually but unlike football you can’t just throw money at it and produce Automatons in the gym and send the out for some zero skill fisting the ball up the pitch
Also without knowing anything whatsoever about it Foptball far more popular than hurling in dublin
Con O'Callaghan, Brian Fenton, Ciaran Kilkenny, Diarmuid Connolly, Stephen Cluxton, Paul Mannion (just to name a few) are among the most skilful player to ever play the game.
Fenton is a SAVAGE midfielder.
The only true thing you said in the above post is that you know absolutely nothing whatsoever about this.You are technically correct...the best kind of correct
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Originally posted by Trippie View PostQuick read regarding streaming and Juventus saying it's killing football
https://thesefootballtimes.co/2019/0...ling-football/
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Originally posted by Kayroo View PostLOL. This is in top 5 stupidest things you've ever written.
Con O'Callaghan, Brian Fenton, Ciaran Kilkenny, Diarmuid Connolly, Stephen Cluxton, Paul Mannion (just to name a few) are among the most skilful player to ever play the game.
Fenton is a SAVAGE midfielder.
The only true thing you said in the above post is that you know absolutely nothing whatsoever about this.
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post'82 and '86 is a long reach into a past recession that struggles hard for relevance.
Fact is that up to the bust in 2007 championship had grown to 20K per game average and since then right through the recovery there has been a steady decline to 13K per year.
Average semi-final attendance between 1980 and 1996 was about 25k.
1996 onwards the semi-final attendances grew, as did all attendances, up to the heights of 2007-ish.
This is going back to type really. It's a slide that should be addressed, but one bad attendance for a semi-final isn't the end of the world it's made out to be.You are technically correct...the best kind of correct
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With all the money in Kerry and them having feck all other competing sports for the football you imagine they'd be just as professional as the Dubs . Maybe they are just bad businessmen. Get the Healy Raes to run it for you . They will have ye rowing boats to the Skelligs for fitness and the few extra bobs.
I'll be devastated when the Dubs fall at the 9 in a row . Up yer game ffs.
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Originally posted by PSV58 View PostSkillful players in one of the least skillful field games going tbf. Handpassed goals and points...yuck.
Mannion scored an outrageous point from under the Cusack Stand yesterday, unbelievable skill. Don't believe me? Go and try it.
Go and try to high field a ball like Fenton over both O'Shea brothers. In fact, just try the high catch without anyone marking you when it travels that distance.
Just because you don't understand the skills involved doesn't mean they can or should be denigrated. Get over yourself.You are technically correct...the best kind of correct
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Originally posted by PSV58 View PostHurlings a more skillful game. Ye might get there eventually but unlike football you can’t just throw money at it and produce Automatons in the gym and send the out for some zero skill fisting the ball up the pitch
Also without knowing anything whatsoever about it Foptball far more popular than hurling in dublin
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Kayroo, are you genuinely suggesting that today's attendance is the only warning sign here, if so you are being either extremely disingenuous or biased, possibly both.
As a Tipp man I really dont have a dog in this fight but anyone with any level of objectivity can see football is in a crisis, the likes of which it has never seen before and labelling it as cyclical is both lazy and dangerous.
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Originally posted by premierstone View PostKayroo, are you genuinely suggesting that today's attendance is the only warning sign here, if so you are being either extremely disingenuous or biased, possibly both.
As a Tipp man I really dont have a dog in this fight but anyone with any level of objectivity can see football is in a crisis, the likes of which it has never seen before and labelling it as cyclical is both lazy and dangerous.
There hasn't been a sellout in the All Ireland Hurling Semi Finals in the last few years at least.
Kilkenny v Tipperary in 2016 had tickets go on general sale to the public. Clubs RETURNED their allocations.
Is hurling in crisis? No. It's getting stronger bit by bit. Attendances are not the real measure here.You are technically correct...the best kind of correct
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You are the one who started quoting attendances though?? Todays attendance is a very very small piece of the evidence, an almost insignificant one in the bigger scheme of things.
I agree completely re the allocation of funding, buts it's going to take a long time to address the imbalance.
As I said previously I don't directly have a dog in this fight but just to be very very clear and in the interest of balance, absolutely none of this is Dublins fault and they are an incredible once in a generation group of footballers, but the discontent among the football fraternity is very loud and clear.
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Originally posted by MrsFlushdraw View PostThe eldest offspring has always wanted to be a Dr, she has been doing subjects to help achieve that goal. We applied to Universities in the UK, one being in Belfast, but god, it is expensive. Unfortunately, she was late in the application and she got turned down.
She got her results for her A Levels, where she aced them, especially the A in advanced chemistry, a subject she only started when she moved to Malta. Did Science for her Junior Cert only.
She applied to the University of Malta to do Medicine & Surgery and was told she has the grades. But because she is not Maltese, she needs to learn Medical Maltese. She basically had 2 months to learn the language, where she will sit a 30 minute role play exam that costs €500 to sit.
The course applications were to be in by March, the course was 6k! but she missed it. Due to brexit, there has been a downturn on UK applicants and the course didn't run. SO the course will be just done with a private tutor and come to about 450 for the lessons!.
BUT, the best part. The Uni course is FREE, once she gets in, that is it. They have no Fees for students who live in Malta. It is like the Scottish Uni system. It is fantastic that you don't need to have loads of €€€ to be able to go to Uni here and everyone gets a chance.
Can I borrow a few folks one times for the 5th of September when she sits the exam! she is petrified of failing of course, but I think she will do it.
I am so proud of her, she has worked hard so far and the final hurdle is now in sight...Her sky-ness
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I'd love to hear kayroos unbiased thoughts on gaa and it's current state. Great lad with his words and top class at using them. Has made a career out of bullshitting and fair play.
Now I did say unbiased so probably best to ignore this and pretend you can take the sky blue tinted glasses off.
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Originally posted by GimmeabreakI went from a time where I loathed Dublin football. That famous picture of the Dublin fan viciously shouting abuse at Tommy Lyons in 2004 I think summed it all up for me. There was talent, but it was undone by lack of discipline. In fact there has always been talent in Dublin football and take the last 7 or so years out of it and they have surely underachieved for their pool of players.
I've moved from my point in the early 2000's to now absolutely enjoying watching them play football. They are so skilled, absolute master practitioners but also tacticians of their sport. The reason they are so good to watch, for me at least is two fold but both sides of that coin have the same source. They are now a very disciplined side who benefit from a genius of a manager. These players would not be going for 5 in a row were Jim Gavin not at the helm during this period. Sure he had the talent at his disposal as many managers have before. He channelled it into the brilliance we have the joy of watching now.
The people who are complaining need to stop and soak it all up. Admire the absolute brilliance for what it is but with a nod to an outstanding manager. This is what makes GAA so great (I could write about the bad also if I wanted). The skill is insane. DJ Carey, Shefflin, Tommy Walsh, Brian Whelehan, John Troy, Seanie McMahon, Brian Lohan and so on and on - joys to watch. It just so happens Dublin have a collection of players of that breath at this time. This wont last, it will change and quicker than people realise.
The fear with Dublin is linked to what you said around their inability to use their talent optimally for many years, something which I think is completely correct.
Gavin is a fine manager and perhaps they may not have had the dominance without him but the legacy he'll leave behind may be that optimisation of talent, a legacy that may be perpetual.
Now that they have the optimisation cracked and their better athletes realise the value in playing GAA opposed to a variety of other sports, something which Kerry, Kilkenny, Mayo always had, it comes down to a sheer numbers game.
Almost every major county searches and finds those players in the 99.9 percentile, the gap lies in the fact that the number of those players that exist in Dublin is simply higher.
I'm in total agreement with you up until the highlighted part above, this is the crux for me, Dublin have the players right now but given this additional optimisation, they may have the players almost ever year.
At what point do those who believe an issue doesn't exist- I agree we haven't reached that yet- look at this and say "Dublin have now won X or Y All Ireland's", something must be changed.
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Originally posted by CHDad View PostI'd love to hear kayroos unbiased thoughts on gaa and it's current state. Great lad with his words and top class at using them. Has made a career out of bullshitting and fair play.
Now I did say unbiased so probably best to ignore this and pretend you can take the sky blue tinted glasses off.
Now, that being said, on the broader topic of the GAA I can be unbiased (mostly). So here goes:
1. The Sky deal should be ended when the contract comes to an end, presuming there’s no penalty free way out of it earlier. It’s not what the GAA is about and having games behind a pay wall is nonsense. I was ambivalent about this before, now I’m dead set against it.
2. There are too many games. As Malachy Clerkin (I think) said on the Second Captains podcast last week - our genetic memory of the championship is as straight knockout. Having an early system to avoid the 9 months training for 70 mins of championship for teams is a good idea, but having a round robin at the quarter final stage is insane. The Super 8s have to go. Less games is actually better in this instance.
3. Provincial championships are dead and vested interests in provincial boards are using money and influence to stop congress from ever even considering scrapping them. The odd competitive one (Roscommon winning Connacht) becomes the rallying point for the “ah sure, how could ye deny them a day like that?” brigade. Either we have a concerted approach to dealing with the championship or we don’t. And as long as the provincial championships are part of the main championship calendar in their current form - the present championship will continue to wither through lack of competition.
4. Provincial venues are better for most games before the semi finals. Better craic, better atmosphere and better spectacle.
5. Dublin should receive little or no central funding for current expenditures (capital projects I see differently) for the next few years to free up a cash injection in places that need it. But those counties should only get it once they put in place proper governance structures. Dublin’s rise to dominance is as much based on good planning as good funding and you need both.
6. A two-tiered championship only works if it’s tied into the league and if it’s grandfathered in over 5 years to give Division 4 teams time.
7. Nothing will work in the GAA until we have a functioning central games calendar. That task may be beyond the wit of men. As long as county boards remain parochial and narrow minded protectors of their own small power base, it will be an uphill struggle to get through proper fixture reform.
So, there’s some thoughts. Enjoy.You are technically correct...the best kind of correct
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostTough to get back into wearing long trousers and not drinking at lunch after 3 weeks off.
Cue 2 weeks of shorts in the office, casual attire is just such a plus in a job.
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In much the same way, as I argue in a forthcoming paper in the journal Erkenntnis, if our universe has been created by an advanced civilization for research purposes, then it is reasonable to assume that it is crucial to the researchers that we don’t find out that we’re in a simulation. If we were to prove that we live inside a simulation, this could cause our creators to terminate the simulation — to destroy our world.
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Originally posted by Denny Crane View PostHadn't really considered this. If it were true, even if the plug wasn't pulled you'd have to imagine it would still lead to a complete breakdown in society, even though everything being a simulation doesn't really change things.
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Originally posted by hotspur View PostEven if the world / universe isn't a simulation our experience of it is via our brains which produces a controlled simulation anyway.
Sorry for the spoiler for anyone who thinks the world they experience is actually out there in the way they experience it.
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Tonights dinner was dedicated to Tara.
Here's what it's made from.
SPOILERWater, Vegetable Protein (25%) (Soy, Wheat, Pea), Vegetable Oil, Stock Powder, Pea Fibre, Thickener (Methyl Cellulose), Natural Colours (Beet, Caramel I, Paprika), Natural Flavours, Salt, Herbs and Spices (Pepper), Vegetable Extract.
Seen a burger place near me adverting these plant based burgers recently. Then seen the same burgers pattys for sale in the supermarket. Said I'd give the ma whirl.
Lacking that juicy beef flavour, obvious. But taste was good and texture was spot on. Side by side it might stand out a bit. But on a toasted bun with fried onions, melted cheese, lettuce, tomato and mayo. It was surprisingly passable as an enjoyable burger.
In fact, so enjoying it so much, that I accidently finished it, with 6 chips lying on the plate. Genuinely.
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Originally posted by Solksjaer! View PostSo if you are stimulated by simulated sex, you are in fact having stimulated simulated, simulated sex . The programming code for this must be very impressive. Explains a lot though, I keep experiencing power surges at End of Day but I can’t find the reset button on the back of the missus neck which is very frustrating indeed. Place another coin in the slot please OdinPeople say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by premierstone View PostOn the second point, couldn't agree more that the game is facing, if not already in the midst of, a massive crisis but I disagree about the alarm bells, they are ringing very loudly and the top brass are extremely worried. What exactly they do about it is another matter!!
Originally posted by Murdrum View PostI agree, no issue with a card being rescinded at all but is it usually investigated in this way?
It seems as though they should be decided upon after the match which it occurred in.
That's kind of why I asked the question because the whole thing seems a tad opaque.
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Originally posted by Mellor View PostI think that can apply to the vast majority of sports.
If people tend to disregard the skills involved in sports they don't like.You are technically correct...the best kind of correct
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Originally posted by Mellor View PostI think that can apply to the vast majority of sports.
If people tend to disregard the skills involved in sports they don't like.
It seems like a standard enough bias to me.
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Phfffff
Aliens from planet 9(possibly nibiru) visited us and spurned the growth in human evolution, the pyramids in Egypt and South America, the heads on Easter island... The signs are all there
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It's been 20 years give or take since I switched from cornetto's to white magnums as my ice cream of choice. Rediscovered the appeal of a just about to melt cornetto in brilliant sun and heat these last 2 weeks in Italy. Perfectly designed for warm weather with the cone and chocolate at the bottom. Magnum's much better in temperate climate though
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Originally posted by Kayroo View PostI’d imagine you see this phenomenon a lot in MMA criticism?
Tae Kwon Do = Takes ones DoughPeople say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by AndyFatBastard View PostMagnaPeople say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Trippie View PostIt's been 20 years give or take since I switched from cornetto's to white magnums as my ice cream of choice. Rediscovered the appeal of a just about to melt cornetto in brilliant sun and heat these last 2 weeks in Italy. Perfectly designed for warm weather with the cone and chocolate at the bottom. Magnum's much better in temperate climate though
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gout update:
Recently flared up again and decided enough was enough and went to podiatrist.
Have now been told it's not gout but socket injury brought on by hyper mobility.
Says it also explains hip knee and ankle problems.
Apparently my bones have extended movement as my ligaments don't restrict movement.
Which explains my wonderful snake hips on the dancefloor but means I dislocate my joins in and out a hell of a lot.
And after all this was carrying my daughter out of the bath and kicked the door frame. Spun around to catch here on my chest and put my right arm out behind me to break my fall. instead strain my intercostal / pectoral muscles as my arm goes straight behind me and strain my left Achilles
If I was a fucking horse, I'd been shot years ago.
Podiatrist recommended I get MBT shoes/trainers .
So at least I have that going for mePeople say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Mellor View PostTonights dinner was dedicated to Tara.
Here's what it's made from.
SPOILERWater, Vegetable Protein (25%) (Soy, Wheat, Pea), Vegetable Oil, Stock Powder, Pea Fibre, Thickener (Methyl Cellulose), Natural Colours (Beet, Caramel I, Paprika), Natural Flavours, Salt, Herbs and Spices (Pepper), Vegetable Extract.
Seen a burger place near me adverting these plant based burgers recently. Then seen the same burgers pattys for sale in the supermarket. Said I'd give the ma whirl.
Lacking that juicy beef flavour, obvious. But taste was good and texture was spot on. Side by side it might stand out a bit. But on a toasted bun with fried onions, melted cheese, lettuce, tomato and mayo. It was surprisingly passable as an enjoyable burger.
In fact, so enjoying it so much, that I accidently finished it, with 6 chips lying on the plate. Genuinely.
Ate chips, panko pickles and burger in a kind of circle, mixing it up now and then.
Big news in centra for me today, the juxtaposition of Afternoon Tea with a jambon is delightful.
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Originally posted by Trippie View PostIt's been 20 years give or take since I switched from cornetto's to white magnums as my ice cream of choice. Rediscovered the appeal of a just about to melt cornetto in brilliant sun and heat these last 2 weeks in Italy. Perfectly designed for warm weather with the cone and chocolate at the bottom. Magnum's much better in temperate climate though
Pistachio Gelato.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Keane View PostOut of interest, what gives you this impression? Everything I hear from GAA brass seems to suggest a Comical Ali attitude. Having said that I try to hear as little as I can from these types.
At the very top I don't really have any evidence only I know there has been a number of quotes/articles from the ptesident about dropping attendances. I would certainly say they are aware, what if anything they do about it is another matter altogether.
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Originally posted by Kayroo View PostI’d imagine you see this phenomenon a lot in MMA criticism?
Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostNever heard of that one! There seems to be a million and one of these coming out at the moment. Can't complain! Was eating a double beyond burger the other day at Bujo here in Dublin, easy 40g of protein. Looking forward to v2 of it to hit Ireland or the impossible.
Ate chips, panko pickles and burger in a kind of circle, mixing it up now and then.
But the one above was on special so I went for that one. Will try the above next week
#MeatFreeMonday
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Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostOh yeah that's the beyond I was eating, you likely have the v1 version there like us, v2 is just released in the US after 3 years more R&D, be good to try both and see the difference.
Gone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.
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