Find it kinda funny that Una Mullaly went on a holiday that cost a multiple of what I spent doing the same thing, never expected to read about her butler catered experience.
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Originally posted by Denny Crane View PostFind it kinda funny that Una Mullaly went on a holiday that cost a multiple of what I spent doing the same thing, never expected to read about her butler catered experience.
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-...66800?mode=amp
I missed it if you did, I'm attempting to convince GF to do something similar soon.
The Galapagos is a trip I've always wanted to do but I have a couple of friends who did a couple of tours of the Amazon & The Galapagos in one trip and they thought the Amazon was better.
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Originally posted by Denny Crane View PostFind it kinda funny that Una Mullaly went on a holiday that cost a multiple of what I spent doing the same thing, never expected to read about her butler catered experience.
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-...66800?mode=ampTurning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by mocata View PostAny opinions on that Blinkist service?
While I like the idea of it, I just feel like I am not getting the learnings out of the synopsis' of the books that I was hoping, going to just go back to audible and listen to books in full...
Now, I am mostly listening to non-fiction business/sales/marketing books, so it could be down to the content.
If i'm not mistaken there is a seven day free trial...Double-decker bus enthusiast
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Originally posted by Denny Crane View PostI'd forgotten about that actually. Dutch are mad really, all smoke like chimneys yet it doesn't seem to affect their appearance like it does to heavy smokers here, actually get the feeling walking around there that we're just generally genetically inferior to them. Feel like you're in a giraffe enclosure when you first land in the airport.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostSetting up metro to need drivers is the madness part. More costs, less opening hours, longer frequency, allows strike carnage All way worse than a driverless system which is old technology at this stage.
Seriously... automation is great.. and Im all for it. But has anyone given serious thought to how we transition from where we are now to a point where basically every automatable job is automated. How would you fund that?
This is some 24th century star trek carry on where humanity just stops using money (like wtf?) and apparently people work because they feel like it.May you live in interesting times!
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostThey are quoting a price of 3200 for 4 days but afaik in Rwanda Gorilla trekking permits are 1500 a go. I suppose that still leaves the lodge at 300 a night. If you go on a trek from Uganda it costs much less but there is a sound basis to the argument that everyone should be paying the same and the money from the Rwandan side does seem to reasonably transparently going into conservation. 0% chance that would happen if they upped the price in Uganda
Originally posted by brady23 View PostDid you do the Gorilla trekking?? Did you do any sort of trip report?
I missed it if you did, I'm attempting to convince GF to do something similar soon.
The Galapagos is a trip I've always wanted to do but I have a couple of friends who did a couple of tours of the Amazon & The Galapagos in one trip and they thought the Amazon was better.
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Originally posted by Denny Crane View PostDutch are mad really, all smoke like chimneys yet it doesn't seem to affect their appearance like it does to heavy smokers here
Our smokers go through 23 cigs a day while theirs use just under 20
Interesting data here showing a disturbing upward trend in Ireland (I'll page Andy to the thread by speculating that this follows the huge marketing spend by big tobacco on vaping and the increased nicotine consumption it brought amongst young people)
Spain are just barely ahead of us and making better progress France still very high at 27% and surprisingly Austria at nearly 30% is the only EU country other than the outlier Greece at 35%Turning millions into thousands
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On a vaguely African segue - Deutschland 86 is out there, the sequel to Deutschland 83 which was popular here.
Our hero is now out in southern Africa, flogging East German weapons to the ANC, the Botha Government and Angolan rebels to try raise some dollars.
Meanwhile back in East Berlin the government is facing financial meltdown and losing support from Moscow.
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post20% of Dutch smoke every day while we are still at over 24%
Our smokers go through 23 cigs a day while theirs use just under 20
Interesting data here showing a disturbing upward trend in Ireland (I'll page Andy to the thread by speculating that this follows the huge marketing spend by big tobacco on vaping and the increased nicotine consumption it brought amongst young people)
Spain are just barely ahead of us and making better progress France still very high at 27% and surprisingly Austria at nearly 30% is the only EU country other than the outlier Greece at 35%"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post20% of Dutch smoke every day while we are still at over 24%
Our smokers go through 23 cigs a day while theirs use just under 20
Interesting data here showing a disturbing upward trend in Ireland (I'll page Andy to the thread by speculating that this follows the huge marketing spend by big tobacco on vaping and the increased nicotine consumption it brought amongst young people)
Spain are just barely ahead of us and making better progress France still very high at 27% and surprisingly Austria at nearly 30% is the only EU country other than the outlier Greece at 35%
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostItaly? Always thought smoking levels seemed high there.
Yeah AJ the last dates on the charts are all from different years.
The consumption per adult in rich countries is interesting, tracked from the 1920's The USA managed to flip from being the highest to the lowest consumers between 1974 and 2010.
They must be doing something better than us... maybe its having to pay for your own healthcare, I heard Avril Whatsherface on the radio yesterday looking for pre emptive lung CT scans for all smokers saying it would be cheaper than the late diagnosis treatment. Add another couple of quid and cut-out coupons on the box and when you have collected enough of them you can go for your CT scanTurning millions into thousands
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Took a nice little dig at Churchill tooPeople say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post22.3 against our 24.3 I'm surprised too
Yeah AJ the last dates on the charts are all from different years.
The consumption per adult in rich countries is interesting, tracked from the 1920's The USA managed to flip from being the highest to the lowest consumers between 1974 and 2010.
They must be doing something better than us... maybe its having to pay for your own healthcare, I heard Avril Whatsherface on the radio yesterday looking for pre emptive lung CT scans for all smokers saying it would be cheaper than the late diagnosis treatment. Add another couple of quid and cut-out coupons on the box and when you have collected enough of them you can go for your CT scan
I'm off them till Christmas (about 6 months at the time) I win €20, I have one - you win €2k.
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Speaking of Cv's.
Im tempted to move sideways within my current employment, they use a HR portal type thing to apply for these gigs. They also require you upload a CV.
I have been doing the same role for the last 19 years, do i just do a front page with Name, address, dob etc and one line saying 2000-present current role, no need to go back to previous jobs as they would have very little significance to this role im interested in.
Or would that be considered lazy ?This too shall pass.
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Originally posted by oleras View PostSpeaking of Cv's.
Im tempted to move sideways within my current employment, they use a HR portal type thing to apply for these gigs. They also require you upload a CV.
I have been doing the same role for the last 19 years, do i just do a front page with Name, address, dob etc and one line saying 2000-present current role, no need to go back to previous jobs as they would have very little significance to this role im interested in.
Or would that be considered lazy ?
Previous jobs may well be irrelevant and you can leave them out (considering the years of service) but quite possible HR monkey wont have a breeze who you are so single line isn't the best idea imoPeople say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Denny Crane View PostWould have been surprising if Eli wasn't busto all things considered. 40k seems like a meaningless amount to stiff someone though?
From a man that originally said he doesn't borrow, always has 100% of himself and doesn't owe any money. He then said he is staked by Israeli businessmen. I'd say he's busto too.
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I like thisPeople say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Yeah I don't think anyone laments that we have JCBs instead of men with shovels. I guess inequality is the big issue, the difference in salaries is going to be even larger with the extra leverage involved, but absolute levels of living will rise enough to hopefully reduce that as an issue.Last edited by Denny Crane; 05-02-19, 18:54.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostIts not that big a deal. Ireland has transitioned from about 70% of people working in agriculture to about 8% in about 80 years. Generally most jobs we do now had vastly different job specs compared to what our parents job specs were in similar jobs.
Take the example of the GP. At the moment a GP is a costly bad search engine. So we're using some of the most intelligent and expensively trained people in society to remember stuff. AI diagnosis will be vastly better at diagnosing people, and it'll be able to constantly surveil people to warn and pre-warn about illnesses and they won't need to make an appointment to do it. The future versions of those bright folks who would have become GPs will instead be able to do something else much more productive in society.
It's hard to imagine any shortage of jobs. What makes jobs is us spending our wages. And those wages will still be spent. We don't know what those jobs will be, but they will be there.
It's hard to imagine any shortage of jobs. What makes jobs is us spending our wages. And those wages will still be spent. We don't know what those jobs will be, but they will be there.
Automation in the past has tended toward replacing repetitive tasks but as you well know the scope now goes well beyond. Automation now is tending towards being able to replace people. This is a new paradigm in which computers are outstripping people in all areas of human endeavour. We are reaching a tipping point in which humans can't compete on any level be that physically, mentally, speed, cost etc. New types of jobs we can't conceive will exist in the future that don't exist today but it is hard to imagine how they won't be done better by new types of technology than human. They will simply be better than us.
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Shoshana Zuboff was on start the week yesterday flogging her overblown moral panic book about how terrible Google are without ever coming close to explaining what the actual issue is but successfully conflated them with the Chinese state apparatus.
Some of it is so far off the mark its almost comic, but PSV and tin foil hat
merchants everywhere will lap it up
TBF even if, like me, you don't buy her hyperbole and are highly sceptical of the agenda and assumption of malice aforethought she makes a lot of interesting points and is worth hearing.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostI'd approach it the other way around to trying to understand what the jobs will be. The simple fact is that money will be there, and people spending their money is what creates jobs through the multiplier effect. Unless people suddenly start saving big surpluses it will be grand. And if they do start saving big surpluses then then a negative interest rate will sort that out. All jobs are a product of people spending money so this money will eventually flow its way back to other people - thus creating jobs for them.
This is at the crux of the argument that BP was questioning. If automation leads to high levels of unemployment then how do we cope with that as a society? Another form of distribution is needed at that point through other methods than work. I think Musk talks about having a Tax on automation and the living wage. From the little I have looked into that, it would be a disaster for society as you would further concentration of wealth in areas while providing a baseline living for the majority of society.
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Originally posted by Opr View PostHow is it a fact that money will be there? If people are increasingly unemployed due to automation then it won't. People spending money has created jobs because people are needed for those services. We are talking about a future in which this is no longer the case so that kind of economics no longer will hold. As money is increasing spent on good and services with high levels of automation it will lead to fewer jobs. You are describing the current system and not the one going forward which has massive levels of automation.
This is at the crux of the argument that BP was questioning. If automation leads to high levels of unemployment then how do we cope with that as a society? Another form of distribution is needed at that point through other methods than work. I think Musk talks about having a Tax on automation and the living wage. From the little I have looked into that, it would be a disaster for society as you would further concentration of wealth in areas while providing a baseline living for the majority of society.
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Originally posted by Opr View PostHow is it a fact that money will be there? If people are increasingly unemployed due to automation then it won't. People spending money has created jobs because people are needed for those services. We are talking about a future in which this is no longer the case so that kind of economics no longer will hold. As money is increasing spent on good and services with high levels of automation it will lead to fewer jobs. You are describing the current system and not the one going forward which has massive levels of automation.
This is at the crux of the argument that BP was questioning. If automation leads to high levels of unemployment then how do we cope with that as a society? Another form of distribution is needed at that point through other methods than work. I think Musk talks about having a Tax on automation and the living wage. From the little I have looked into that, it would be a disaster for society as you would further concentration of wealth in areas while providing a baseline living for the majority of society.
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It's been trialed in Scandinavia though it is coming to an end now https://www.theguardian.com/inequali...ood-to-be-true
I read his book on the topic but I haven't read enough additional stuff to hold a strong opinion but if wealth does concentrate to a degree then perhaps a version of it will exist. I suspect we'll see various thing such as working weeks ubiquitously reducing substantially before it's introduced
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Originally posted by Denny Crane View PostBut if everything is automated it will take very little to supply everyone with a pretty good standard of living in society (it'll be cheaper for the rich to pay off everyone rather than fight an uprising). It'll free up people to do way more. Reducing the amount of work that's needed to be done can only be a good thing.
If that scenario isn’t bleak enough, consider the possibility that mass automation could lead not only to the impoverishment of working people, but to their annihilation. In his book Four Futures, Peter Frase speculates that the economically redundant hordes outside the gates would only be tolerated for so long. After all, they might get restless – and that’s a lot of possible pitchforks. “What happens if the masses are dangerous but are no longer a working class, and hence of no value to the rulers?” Frase writes. “Someone will eventually get the idea that it would be better to get rid of them.” He gives this future an appropriately frightening name: “exterminism”, a world defined by the “genocidal war of the rich against the poor”.Robotics and artificial intelligence will continue to improve – but without political change such as a tax, the outcome will range from bad to apocalyptic
The utopian view of course if that we spread the wealth and everyone lives happily ever after but it doesn't really align with human nature. Maybe it would be cheaper to pay people off to have an OK standard of living but give people an OK standard of living and a shit load of free and they might start to wonder why they don't have an amazing standard of living. You are much more likely to see people take action to level the playing field. On the other side of the fence considering we already have a system in which the top 1% more wealth than the bottom 50% I don't see them playing ball too quickly.
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Originally posted by Opr View PostIt would probably be cheaper for them just to get rid
Robotics and artificial intelligence will continue to improve – but without political change such as a tax, the outcome will range from bad to apocalyptic
The utopian view of course if that we spread the wealth and everyone lives happily ever after but it doesn't really align with human nature. Maybe it would be cheaper to pay people off to have an OK standard of living but give people an OK standard of living and a shit load of free and they might start to wonder why they don't have an amazing standard of living. You are much more likely to see people take action to level the playing field. On the other side of the fence considering we already have a system in which the top 1% more wealth than the bottom 50% I don't see them playing ball too quickly.
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Even someone like Peter Singer who questions a wide array of moral issues (he gives away vast majority of wealth) makes strong arguments for the continued value of capitalist system under the aegis that a rising tide lifts all boats. He notes that the only group who have not had their absolute levels of well-being increase since the 60s are those in extreme poverty. However, although their well-being hasn't increased the proportion of the global population who fall into that category has decreased from >30% to less than 9%.
I don't doubt that a vast increase in wealth inequality could trigger the non-elite to seek more but I simply don't buy that we are even remotely close to that situation.
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Originally posted by brady23 View PostI don't quite get the level playing field argument to be honest that is of course assumimg that absolute human well-being continues to improve proportionally to those more wealthy as it has done for much of the past few centuries.
Even someone like Peter Singer who questions a wide array of moral issues (he gives away vast majority of wealth) makes strong arguments for the continued value of capitalist system under the aegis that a rising tide lifts all boats. He notes that the only group who have not had their absolute levels of well-being increase since the 60s are those in extreme poverty. However, although their well-being hasn't increased the proportion of the global population who fall into that category has decreased from >30% to less than 9%.
I don't doubt that a vast increase in wealth inequality could trigger the non-elite to seek more but I simply don't buy that we are even remotely close to that situation.
I think that article is trying to make the point that in the current system workers at least have some control over value/wages they get relative to skillset and get monetarily compensated at a market fair rate. In a system which doesn't need workers and people just receive a UBI. Yes, it lifts far more people out of the very bottom level of poverty but it also probably erodes other classes. You end up with a two-tier society. Those who can earn money which is a tiny % and then a class of society solely reliant on a welfare state. It is at this point that our friend Marx steps in a says fuck that lets just divide it all equally?
You mentioned one trial going on. There are a huge number of them all around the world at this stage. So I guess the best thing is to see what data comes out of them. A few people on Reddit who are part of them have done AMA's.
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@IT nerds and geekoids.
I'll actually get a room to myself in the new gaff. Clearly the main activities taking place there will be punting, drinking etc but I will probably do the odd bit of work too. Want to get a decent home office setup with dual monitors (I remote into my VDI) - what's the recommended setup these days?
I have a shitty HP laptop that I'd be quite happy to chuck in the bin. Buy a better laptop or a desktop? Is there still such things as docking stations? Help plz - don't need massive computing power as it's VDI.
TY in advance."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Surface Pro 6 for home computer setup. I have something along these lines in work and home to swap between the 2.
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Money is just a measure of scarcity. Most of the things that we spend money on aren't really scarce but are of value because of the shortage of two things that are truly scarce, energy that can be harnessed and common sense. Technology may make the former more abundant in time but common sense appears to becoming less common by to the day.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by mocata View PostPulled the trigger on an Easter trip to the Azores, anyone been?
Goshawk tangerine and Azor Gin The Azor gin is very smooth and can be drank straight, i love it.
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