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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostObjectively true Top 10:
BOD
ROG
Roy Keane
Sonia O'Sullivan
Barry McGuigan
Ken Doherty
Conor McGregor
Padraig Harrington
Ronnie Delany
Packie BonnerThis may or may not be an original thought of my own.
All efforts were made to make this thought original but with the abundance of thoughts in the world the originality of this thought cannot be guaranteed.
The author is not liable for any issue arising from the platitudinous nature of this post.
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Originally posted by luckforsome View Post...My top 10, although I'm sure I'm missing someone at this time...
...BOD, ROG, Roy Keane, Sonia O'Sullivan, Barry McGuigan, Padraig Harrington, Robbie Keane, Rory Mcilroy, Steve Collins, Johnny Giles...
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostObjectively true Top 10:
BOD
ROG
Roy Keane
Sonia O'Sullivan
Barry McGuigan
Ken Doherty
Conor McGregor
Padraig Harrington
Ronnie Delany
Packie Bonner
People may argue the difference between best athlete opposed to best sportsperson but assuming people are viewing them as the same in this instance, it seems a no-brainer to me.
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Originally posted by brady23 View PostI understand his persona isn't to everyone's taste but assuming the measurement of an athletes success is being the best in their field, I'd find it objectively difficult not to have McGregor as one of the first names on a top 10 list of Irish athlete's.
People may argue the difference between best athlete opposed to best sportsperson but assuming people are viewing them as the same in this instance, it seems a no-brainer to me.
While not dismissing Conors achievements, it's far easier at this point to ascend the MMA ranks than a lot of other high profile sports which has to be considered when compiling a list like this.
Multiply that point x 1000 for Katie Taylor.Profit before people.
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Originally posted by The Situation View PostI dunno it's still a sport in its relative infancy compared to most on that list. I don't think the likes of Mcilroy or Roy Keane could decide when they were 16 to be a golfer/soccer player and then make it to the top of their trade, you'd need to be at it from a very young age to make it in those sports as the participation level and standards are so high.
While not dismissing Conors achievements, it's far easier at this point to ascend the MMA ranks than a lot of other high profile sports which has to be considered when compiling a list like this.
Multiply that point x 1000 for Katie Taylor.
Its not an entirely new sport, in that, its been designed from the bottom up, the underlying skills are already at an extremely high level.
A large proportion of athletes competing at the highest level are world class at elements that have been around since the Olympics began.
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Originally posted by brady23 View PostI understand your point and agree that the combination of skills is in its relative infancy but the skills and techniques which make up the overall skillset are not.
Its not an entirely new sport, in that, its been designed from the bottom up, the underlying skills are already at an extremely high level.
A large proportion of athletes competing at the highest level are world class at elements that have been around since the Olympics began.
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Originally posted by brady23 View PostI understand your point and agree that the combination of skills is in its relative infancy but the skills and techniques which make up the overall skillset are not.
Its not an entirely new sport, in that, its been designed from the bottom up, the underlying skills are already at an extremely high level.
A large proportion of athletes competing at the highest level are world class at elements that have been around since the Olympics began.
MMA was barely a thing when we were young, kids around the globe were aspiring to be the next Zidane or Federer or Lomu or Woods, very few wanted to be a champion cage fighter.
The popularity compared to relative participation level is now hugely disproportionate, which is attest to how well marketed it is and intriguing a sport it is but you cant go comparing those who are successful at it on the same level as sports were you have to be the best of millions upon millions of participants to make it to the top.Last edited by The Situation; 18-11-18, 09:34.Profit before people.
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Originally posted by shrapnel View PostMcGregor s professional record really isn't that great tbh, yes he won the belt in 2 divisions (which is an amazing achievement), but never defended either. I'd say its still too early to say if he should be on that list.
I'd disagree that it's too early and that his achievements thus far warrant a place on the list especially if you're holding places for some of the people mentioned thus far (even excluding Stockdale).
McGregor certainly hasn't been perfect and I'm not much of a fan of his persona but he's achieved enough on a global level to warrant a place imo.
Originally posted by The Situation View PostConor didn't come from a high class fighting background prior to taking it up though, his rise from when he got serious to when he made it was fairly short by any top class sport standards.
MMA was barely a thing when we were young, kids around the globe were aspiring to be the next Zidane or Federer or Lomu or Woods, very few wanted to be a champion cage fighter.
The popularity compared to relative participation level is now hugely disproportionate, which is attest to how well marketed it is and intriguing a sport it is but you cant go comparing those who are successful at it on the same level as sports were you have to be the best of millions upon millions of participants to make it to the top.
It's participation levels are minuscule even amongst the most populous countries which compete.
Small pockets of Oz compete at Union and participation in rugby generally in the UK amongst 16+ year olds, it doesn't even make the Top 10: https://www.statista.com/statistics/...pants-england/
Do you honestly think less people globally participate at one or more elements of cage fighting than compete at rugby(union or league)? Rugby has only been professional since 1995
Again I understand your point regarding cage fighting as a sport but imo given the underlying skills are at such a high level for so long, the argument is less valid than if it had been an entirely new sport with no foundation.Last edited by Guest; 18-11-18, 10:02.
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Agree with Sitch in this.
Also you can't dismiss McGregor because he's an arsehole. But there's plenty of other stuff you can argue with him. Not sure he's on my top 5. Close anyway. If ruling out people for being arseholes comes into it, then Roy Keane would be gone. But being one of the best midfielders in the world for the best part of a decade and winning everything he could in that span should give him a strong case for number one.
I agree longevity comes into it.
POD still my number one. His career over a 20 year span is so stellar. May have overachieved winning 3 majors but they can't be taken off him. A real champion.
Good shout on AP but is he in?. Not sure why I don't measure Rory in this. He's not Irish I suppose but represented Golf Ireland same as a rugby player from the north represents the IRFU. Maybe it's his refusal (correctly sadly) to state his feelings of his nationality. He's right though. He can't win.
Also, Laz. What's with the Stockdale thing. Neither funny or in anyway correct. You just gargled posting that last night?
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Originally posted by BennyHiFi View PostGeorge Best, Barry McGuigan, maybe Danny Blanchflower should get a look in too.
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And McGuigan is one of ours ya chancer
Anyhu, any conversation that doesn't at least mention this gowl isn't worth listening to
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Originally posted by dobby View PostBagged 270k in the regency poker thing. Got lucky with KK v Aces all in pre, flopped the King. That was up to 250k just after dinner and nothing happened after. 2nd big poker game this year, 2nd time making day 2.
Lol poker.
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...Very decent Tennis final on BBC at the moment...Djokovic a set and break down to Zverev...
...Edit, Djok breaks back...Edit again, another break this is quality...Last edited by luckforsome; 18-11-18, 19:11.
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Originally posted by dobby View PostNot quite sluglife levels but bust this tourney. Got my chips in good but poker is a cruel mistress, crack aces yesterday and get dogged today. Cashed for €440. Have had worse Sundays.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostFour hours to make slow-roasted ribs and potato gratin, but it's hard to imagine a better winter Sunday evening meal.
It was only alright.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Originally posted by DeadParrot View PostI honestly cannot tell fact from satire at this stage.
SPOILER
The man's a fucking idiotPeople say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostBrisket is just dodgy meat. Awful hard to stop it being bone dry at the end. You had it roasting in closed tinfoil in its own juices?
Should have contacted Ole.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Originally posted by Lazare View PostDid it in a casserole dish, followed a Gordon Ramsay YouTube vid. Wasn't dry, just tasted a bit meh.
Should have contacted Ole.
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Originally posted by 5starpool View PostWhat the hell are you doing cooking dinner at this hour?
On the subject of food, Kinara Kitchen is really good. Sneaked in a rapid-fire meal there yesterday before the match and 'twas mighty. They don't dial down the spices either. Not the finesse of Pickle but hits the same flavours.
Doh! I meant Kerala Kitchen. Although Kinara Kitchen is good too.Last edited by Raoul Duke III; 18-11-18, 21:04."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostBrexit-watching is truly far more dramatic than any tv show. Another huge week coming up. May clinging on by her fingernails and no clear path to getting the deal through the HoC.
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Can’t remember who posted the, but it was incredible.
On the stockdale front, I wouldn’t put him in the Top 10 rugby players Ireland has produced, and I’m a big fan of his.
I’d put BOD, POC, Keith Wood, Darcy, ROG, Murray, Sexton, Horgan, Earls, Furlong, Kearney ahead of him. Even since his debut, James Ryan has been the better player. I actually thought Stockdale had an average enough game against NZ and was poorer against Argies, but he’s young, he’s huge and will eventually be a phenomenal player. Way to early for GOATs though.
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Originally posted by Goodluck2me View Posthttps://deadspin.com/ultrarunner-cou...ost-1830136537
Can’t remember who posted the, but it was incredible.
On the stockdale front, I wouldn’t put him in the Top 10 rugby players Ireland has produced, and I’m a big fan of his.
I’d put BOD, POC, Keith Wood, Darcy, ROG, Murray, Sexton, Horgan, Earls, Furlong, Kearney ahead of him. Even since his debut, James Ryan has been the better player. I actually thought Stockdale had an average enough game against NZ and was poorer against Argies, but he’s young, he’s huge and will eventually be a phenomenal player. Way to early for GOATs though."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostBrexit-watching is truly far more dramatic than any tv show. Another huge week coming up. May clinging on by her fingernails and no clear path to getting the deal through the HoC.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hael-Gove.html no deal no mars bars
Mars Bars could vanish from British shelves in a matter of weeks if the UK crashes out of the EU without a deal.
Food and drink experts have warned the iconic chocolate nougat bar, as well as all confectionery imports to the country, will dramatically increase in price if the UK can't strike a deal with Brussels.
At a roundtable meeting, representatives from the Food and Drink Federation told Enviroment secretary Michael Gove that Mars Bars could go extinct within a fortnight, according to BuzzFeed News.
The experts explained to the minister that two of the ingredients used to make Mars bars are imported and only take a few days to go off.
If food imports were to be barred from entering the UK via the port of Dover in the case of a hard Brexit, Mars would be unable to make their iconic chocolate bar at its factory in Slough, Berkshire.
The experts told Gove the UK’s entire supply of Mars bars would run out within two weeks.
The Mars Bar is made up of 21 ingredients, but most of them are sourced within the UK.People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by DeadParrot View PostIts glorious, British journalism at its finest.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hael-Gove.html no deal no mars bars
Mars bars don't taste like high end product to me
Time to give up mass produced shite is the lesson for the gammons here
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Lovely evening in Bord Gais at Giselle, preceded by a veritable Italian Feast in Osteria Lucio.Low fee Euro/UK money transfer, 1st transfer free through my referral
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostBrexit-watching is truly far more dramatic than any tv show. Another huge week coming up. May clinging on by her fingernails and no clear path to getting the deal through the HoC.Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt
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Originally posted by Lazare View PostDid it in a casserole dish, followed a Gordon Ramsay YouTube vid. Wasn't dry, just tasted a bit meh.
Should have contacted Ole.
My first one was really good, the second and third....not so much.
Get yourself some beef cheeks and braise them in red wine and stock for 3 hours, small bit of the 3 veg, on a bed of mashed spuds, and the gravy you get from the cooking is so good.This too shall pass.
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The Ballad Of Buster Scruggs. New release on Neflix and the usual places.
Within the first 10 mins i knew i was onto something fantastic here...and it only got better.
Well worth a watch.Last edited by oleras; 18-11-18, 23:58.This too shall pass.
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