Bad beat/Moaning/Venting thread - Mammy told me not to come.

[Denny Crane]

Just voted there and the guy at the box said it was 20% turnout. You'd almost be slightly worried the loonies might carry it. Haven't read a thing about it all day so I'm working off a data point of one.

[newbie2]

Higgins 60%, Casey 20%

[Emmet]

Is there a minimum turnout required for the constitutional amendment to pass?

[Emmet]

Higgins 60%, Casey 20%

Gavin Duffy 1

(vote, not percent)

[newbie2]

Is there a minimum turnout required for the constitutional amendment to pass?

Nope

[Raoul Duke III]

Higgins 60%, Casey 20%

Seems to be stronger turnout in more affluent areas. Bad for the Casey punt?

[Denny Crane]

Well done to the Casey voters anyway

[ArmaniJeans]

21% clear second, well done.

[KevIRL]

Amazing outcome

[The Situation]

Get in! Couple of the top Irish firms really did an appalling job at risk managing this election.

[newbie2]

Irish Times have Higgins 56%, Casey 21%

[Wombatman]

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[Lazare]

Well done to the Casey punters anyway

FYP.

The voters need to see a doctor.

[The Situation]

Next general election build up is gonna be farcical now he's given a blueprint in how to drum up idiotic support.

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[elbows]

On a more important note. You can now legally graphically depict muhammed rogering the corpse of jesus while budda looks on pleasuring himself.

I voted no after hearing a compelling argument to keep it that had nothing to do with what I believed the Blasphemy law was about.

Basically that it was there to stop hate speech being allowed against religion which I thought was reasonable and that the whole Stephen Fry issue was a red herring and that no one would ever be convicted in that manner.

[ComradeCollie]

On a more important note. You can now legally graphically depict muhammed rogering the corpse of jesus while budda looks on pleasuring himself.

Could maybe still be done under 'Incitement to hatred'.

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[dobby]

I voted no after hearing a compelling argument to keep it that had nothing to do with what I believed the Blasphemy law was about.

Basically that it was there to stop hate speech being allowed against religion which I thought was reasonable and that the whole Stephen Fry issue was a red herring and that no one would ever be convicted in that manner.

Also voted no for the same reason.

Ended up voting for MDH even tho it wanted the lads to win the bet. Couldn't bring myself to vote anyone else.

[ComradeCollie]

what if they all look happy in the depiction?

Ah, I'm mostly offended that none of the Hindu deities get a bit part.

[Lazare]

I voted no after hearing a compelling argument to keep it that had nothing to do with what I believed the Blasphemy law was about.

Basically that it was there to stop hate speech being allowed against religion which I thought was reasonable and that the whole Stephen Fry issue was a red herring and that no one would ever be convicted in that manner.

We have laws in place that make hate speech a crime, against the individual.
I don't understand why an organisation should be protected from it though, in our constitution.

What is hate speech anyway? Is it subjective? I'm sure some devout catholics would consider my views hate speech. Should I be banned from expressing them?

What about people who hate RTE? Or, the GAA, or Sinn Fein.

Should our constitution protect those organisations?

[newbie2]

We have laws in place that make hate speech a crime, against the individual.
I don't understand why an organisation should be protected from it though, in our constitution.

What is hate speech anyway? Is it subjective? I'm sure some devout catholics would consider my views hate speech. Should I be banned from expressing them?

What about people who hate RTE? Or, the GAA, or Sinn Fein.

Should our constitution protect those organisations?

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[Guest]

FYP.

The voters need to see a doctor.

Why ? Think the debate when every other candidate said would have no problem living beside travellers showed them to be liars. Not enough politicians or public representatives with any back bone it's all about political correctness don't offend anyone. People comparing him to the Gestapo jesus well done to the punter's

[Lazare]

Why ? Think the debate when every other candidate said would have no problem living beside travellers showed them to be liars. Not enough politicians or public representatives with any back bone it's all about political correctness don't offend anyone. People comparing him to the Gestapo jesus well done to the punter's

Because, if that's all they care about, and can be swooned by such a clown they're dim witted. That and he's a cunt. He'll fuck off home now to America thankfully.

[KevIRL]

Because, if that's all they care about, and can be swooned by such a clown they're dim witted. That and he's a cunt. He'll fuck off home now to America thankfully.

If this is accepted as the narrative and I wouldn't be surprised if it is. Then the next vote when it actually matters will be worse.

[Denny Crane]

FYP.

The voters need to see a doctor.

Dunno how I made that mistake!

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[Trippie]

I thought Monkey 47 after a quick Google especially given I'm in Germany

Where abouts are you? I'm in Stockholm again this weekend but will be back in Heidelberg on Monday

[Kayroo]

On a more important note. You can now legally graphically depict muhammed rogering the corpse of jesus while budda looks on pleasuring himself.

Nope. Still a crime.

I voted no after hearing a compelling argument to keep it that had nothing to do with what I believed the Blasphemy law was about.

Basically that it was there to stop hate speech being allowed against religion which I thought was reasonable and that the whole Stephen Fry issue was a red herring and that no one would ever be convicted in that manner.

This is entirely wrong and someone has told you a big old pack of lies.

[Kayroo]

Why ? Think the debate when every other candidate said would have no problem living beside travellers showed them to be liars. Not enough politicians or public representatives with any back bone it's all about political correctness don't offend anyone. People comparing him to the Gestapo jesus well done to the punter's

What, exactly, is wrong with taking care not to be deliberately offensive?

People who complain about “political correctness” usually do so as a way of implying they should be able to say whatever they please without any social consequence.

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[Kayroo]

I was really just hoping someone might take up the challenge and then watch from afar to see what happens.

Although I'm not sure why drawing historical characters doing anything would be criminal.

Until the appropriate section of the defamation act is repealed it is a crime.

And drawing the character isn’t a crime so long as you don’t do so with the intention of scandalizing the religion.

[ComradeCollie]

Enjoyed Joe Rogans chat with Tyson Fury. Though Fury reminds me too much of Katie Taylor with the Jesus stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNZtibrPo0g

[Guest]

Where abouts are you? I'm in Stockholm again this weekend but will be back in Heidelberg on Monday

I was actually in Tel Aviv and went through Frankfurt on the way home, it was just a longer layover.

I could be going back and forth relatively regularly via that route, I see that Heidelberg is close enough to Frankfurt so if I'm staying for a few days on the way back I'll give you a shout for some recommendations in the area.

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[Strewelpeter]

Did the three of the horses posted yesterday in an ew trixie but couldnt get money on boyles from Lagos so had to use pp
saw the first one won and the script was one I've read too often... the nose 4th Eacharn was exactly as expected

[Strewelpeter]

Nope. Still a crime.




This is entirely wrong and someone has told you a big old pack of lies.

was away working with a brother in law to and very friendly with the leader of the campaign to retain it. We always have great craic sparring off each other on our work trips and he is always a vocifirous defender of Waters, our national contrarian in chief, but this week the best he could manage was an armwave at the costs of running it

[Guest]

Heard it's fairly spectacular there - would have a normal hesitancy of having anything to do with Israel because of what they do, but Tel Aviv seems to be different to rest of country? A bit like Dublin really, a bit ashamed of the country yokels.

I was hesitant when I arrived and that was justified when I saw that people casually walk around shopping centres with AK47s over their shoulder so it was a bit shocking at first.
Tel Aviv beach is fantastic, as is the area it's situated in.
I think the food is the best part, it's just unbelievable.

I planned to visit Jerusalem but I didn't get the time but I took a trip down to the Dead Sea as part of a work fun day.
The area is incredibly commercialised on one side with hotels etc and very industrial on the other side as companies are draining the sea. It's currently 430m below sea level.
They threw a Burning Man themed party in the desert which was very cool. They look after their staff extremely well and the office has a very relaxed atmosphere.

I spoke to a few foreigners who were on Christian pilgrimages which took them into areas of Gaza, the trips can take people into Jericho and the number of visitors is on the rise so I'm not quite sure how dangerous it is. As you said Tel Aviv feels very much like any city, I saw a few mosques in the distance while driving at night but outside of that the presence within Tel Aviv is very much Israeli and cosmopolitan.

[Guest]

I'm finishing up Dawkins The Greatest Show on Earth atm so I was flicking through some YouTube videos and came across the one that was basically the catalyst for me to disregard the value of religion.

Dawkins appeared on The Panel in 2006 to promote The God Delusion with Dara O'Briain and I still recall thinking he was brilliant.

SPOILER

https://youtu.be/aOrHtqvyJZA

It led me to take a look through his appearance on the Late Late that week too and although the cohort that apply for Late Late tickets aren't exactly representative of the secularism that I'm sure was present in Ireland, I thought the response to the first question of "Hands up who believes in God?" must have shifted quite a lot in the past 12 years.

SPOILER

https://youtu.be/eBDUPAgy5zk

It's just funny how some things stick.

[luckforsome]

Did the three of the horses posted yesterday in an ew trixie but couldnt get money on boyles from Lagos so had to use pp
saw the first one won and the script was one I've read too often... the nose 4th Eacharn was exactly as expected

...Same, had them in a treble, still not sure he came 4th...Should have taken GABs advice and did it in Boyles instead of PP...

[Trippie]

Thoroughly enjoyed reading these tweets this morning. Stories from the boom years.

https://twitter.com/shockproofbeats/status/1055810843257065473?s=19

[Trippie]

I was actually in Tel Aviv and went through Frankfurt on the way home, it was just a longer layover.

I could be going back and forth relatively regularly via that route, I see that Heidelberg is close enough to Frankfurt so if I'm staying for a few days on the way back I'll give you a shout for some recommendations in the area.

45 minutes from the airport and loads to do if you have a few days free

[Raoul Duke III]

Well played to all the Casey punters.

[pokerhand]

anybody doing the marathon this weekend?

Lazare is.

[Raoul Duke III]

Next general election build up is gonna be farcical now he's given a blueprint in how to drum up idiotic support.

Eh, I don't know how to tell you this so pics will have to do:

[Raoul Duke III]

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[KevIRL]

John Connors
@johnconnors1990
As I predicted racist Casey would finish 2nd place. 1% to 21% in just over a week achieved with hate. Wait till the next elections. Lets see how many follow the Casey way. I'm finished with Ireland. I'm giving up trying to make it a better place. Fuck it. #RacistIreland


One down, 39K to go

[Lazare]

anybody doing the marathon this weekend?

Yup.

Full blown panic attack about it last night, but raring to go now.

[Ed]

Cheers to whoever was banging on about Stone Junction a while back, fun read

[pokerhand]

Yup.

Full blown panic attack about it last night, but raring to go now.

Good luck to yourself and whoever else doing it.

[balfejohn]

John Connors
@johnconnors1990
As I predicted racist Casey would finish 2nd place. 1% to 21% in just over a week achieved with hate. Wait till the next elections. Lets see how many follow the Casey way. I'm finished with Ireland. I'm giving up trying to make it a better place. Fuck it. #RacistIreland


One down, 39K to go

Connors should have put money on it if he can see that kind of thing in his tea leaves

[Lazare]

Cheers guys. Attacking a time that I think is right on my limit, so blow up is a decent risk. Do or die.

[RichieM]

To all of those disgusted by the quarter of voters who feel strongly enough about travellers that they could vote for a colossal dickhead like Casey perhaps you could examine why.

I personally have had a bad experience with travellers and my wider family have also had bad experiences. We are not huge bigots, imbeciles being lead astray by dog whistles or far right stormfront readers. Middle class, married with kids, educated and basically a huge chunk of the voting population is what we are.

My uncle has had farm equipment stolen numerous times and I was locked with other staff memebers in a pub office while they destroyed the bar because a new member made the mistake of serving a group. Others I know have much worse incidents to discuss.

Like it or not people have real grievances with the behavior of the group. Yes they are disadvantaged i am not blind to that and I know that there is some good eggs in the group but I cannot apologise for not liking travelers overall. I might reconsider if we receive an an apology in return.

Watching candidates say they would be happy to have a halting site next door is the real farce. Either a complete lie or a complete dillusion - either is not great in your president.

If Casey wasn’t as unelectable or say o’cuiv who you can imagine being in the Aras as unpalatable as I find him had said the same those percentages would have been much different.

Disgust and distain at people who feel they have real grievances is how you drive them away from being able to vote with you and we end up at Brexit, Trump, Golden dawn etc.

I am sure people will see this view as disgraceful but it is as a result of actual experiences that have impacted my opinion.

[Lazare]

What has any of that got to do with the office of President of Ireland though?

[dobby]

Eh, I don't know how to tell you this so pics will have to do: