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Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostThanks, it's the study itself I'd be interested in as I can interpret that first hand. Will look it up at some point.
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Originally posted by Kayroo View PostI personally think H.L.A Hart is the best of that bunch but aside from Kant they are all legal philosophers (jurisprudential philosophers). Hart was an amazing man. He worked with MI5 and MI6 during the Second World War and shared an office with one of the Cambridge Spies, Anthony Blunt.
His book, "The Concept of Law" specifically addresses issues of morality and law and how they can diverge and overlap. It is part of a number of works, including Kelsen, Dworkin, and to a lesser extent Williams, that inform the developing theories of law across the twentieth century.
Nevertheless, I think that potentially offers insight to how philosophical arguments that often appear very abstract are perhaps applied in a practical sense. Perhaps that's not what the books are about but it appears more tangible to some degree.
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LOL @ the GAA
They called in the lawyers to make sure they wouldn't have to repay EU grants if they refused access to the Liam Miller memorial game.
The logical inference being that if they were obliged to repay money they would have found a way to allow the people of Cork support the event at their taxpayer funded facility.Turning millions into thousands
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Maybe I'm a cynic but I think an amateur organisation being pilloried for not handing over its facilities to a bunch of rich professional sports people to raise money for the family of another professional sports person who more than likely made more money in ten years than most of us will make in a lifetime is a bit weird somehow.
This guy played for Celtic, Man Utd and Leeds among others - those who like are left behind are hardly going to be on the bread line. If some poor fucker who is scratching out a living making €400 a week playing for Cork City FC kicks the bucket next week would there be the same uproar or is this just a thing because barstoolers remember Miller from TV? Who would be more deserving of the help and who's family would need it more? What will the criteria be for handing over the keys to your stadium? Tragic early death of premier league player from County ground is in? Will Championship level soccer players be entitled to demand it as well, LOI players?
Honestly I'm quite sure all the outraged wealthy athletes, Premier League supporters and assorted belly-achers will have no problem whatsoever finding the patreon page to donate the price of the ticket to Miller's widow if they are so worried.
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Originally posted by Keane View PostBy the way the GAA regularly enrage me but the idea that the soccer fraternity are just entitled to demand the use of their infrastructure is a bit galling.
Also, facilities were built using grant money properly applied for and granted. That doesn’t mean the GAA are obliged to turn the facility over to anyone who wants it. If the Government wanted that option then they can make it a condition of the funding.You are technically correct...the best kind of correct
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Originally posted by eamonhonda View PostIs the argument not that the bigger stadium would allow more actual fans go support the player, as opposed to an extra few quid for his family?
Seems more fitting that it should be held in turners cross anyway. A place he played for a long time and would have more sentimental value than a half full puc
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Originally posted by Kayroo View PostTHIS.
Also, facilities were built using grant money properly applied for and granted. That doesn’t mean the GAA are obliged to turn the facility over to anyone who wants it. If the Government wanted that option then they can make it a condition of the funding.
That there is an issue at all is obviously a much poorer reflection on the fai than on the gaa.Turning millions into thousands
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Couple of us decided to bail to Clonmel for the poker a d stay over. Having a pint in hotel bar and cop the 2 lads beside us are pikeys.Now to be fair you wouldnt know only one has a hearing aid in so is talking a bit loud but all good.
Anyway manager cops the young barmaids mistake(?) in serving them and when they go up for a second she is thrown to the wolves to refuse them...
After a short discussion about loudness he points to his hearing aid...a quick word between young wan and manager and its agreed to give them the Guinness but shuffle them into the snug behind doors...
Thinking the fun is over my buddy goes in to register the tourney while i finish my pint and follow.
4 more just arrived in...think i'll have another pint as thr managers face is priceless here and im heading into the snug with them as the racing is on in there
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Originally posted by KevIRL View PostSome Saturday at the golf"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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GAA is finished since Kerry died. Common sense should allow the fecking game to play. Melodramatic saying handing over the keys. Anyway the cause was also to raise money for other charities. Should all benefit gigs be cancelled and people asked to donate instead. . GAA is supposed to be for more than the actual GAA players it's supposed to stand for the wider community. Isn't that written into their actual constitution somewhere. Liam Millers death was not that of a rich sportsman.
Also I like us getting outraged, it's got us somewhere in recent years. You gay boys can now get an abortion if you wish.
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Originally posted by Mike Bullocks View PostGAA is finished since Kerry died. Common sense should allow the fecking game to play. Melodramatic saying handing over the keys. Anyway the cause was also to raise money for other charities. Should all benefit gigs be cancelled and people asked to donate instead. . GAA is supposed to be for more than the actual GAA players it's supposed to stand for the wider community. Isn't that written into their actual constitution somewhere. Liam Millers death was not that of a rich sportsman.
Also I like us getting outraged, it's got us somewhere in recent years. You gay boys can now get an abortion if you wish.
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostSticking with my policy of 'always back an American with a stupid name', I repeated my Masters bet on Xander Schauffle. See he's in the mix there now after being invisible on Day 1."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Keane View PostDo you have any thoughts on how they should decide who is entitled to demand use of GAA grounds to run fundraisers in future?
Ed the red head ? Why build a state of the art new ground and refuse offers to use it when it's not in use. If any of these grounds received grants from the taxpayer then they should accommodate reasonable requests for it's use . Why not ?
What is the GAA about in your view ? Let's use our facilities for the good of all in the country and not just those who follow the GAA and all it represents (outdated as it is) .
Fundraisers are how the fecking GAA got through the lean years , Croke Park I think hit break even in 2014 (helped by development funded by taxpayers) . Taxpayers are requesting to use it. Say no, fine but the arms folded refusal to budge quoting easily worked around red tape is annoying
I draw the line at cake sales though, they can use Turners Cross.
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Originally posted by eamonhonda View PostYa can't give an organization a grant, and then start claiming use of where the funds went as you please, that taxpayer argument is terrible.
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Originally posted by CourierCollie View PostLooked like two identical photos to me until I googled it and read what other people were seeing.I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that
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Originally posted by Hectorjelly View PostDoes the key ring describe the just the ring, or the ring and the ornament?
i guess it would describe the ring and the ornament, but technically the key goes on the ring so why would it describe both ? i've never heard of the ornament being called anything else though.
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Originally posted by chips1234 View Postis this one of those thoughts people have when super high ?
i guess it would describe the ring and the ornament, but technically the key goes on the ring so why would it describe both ? i've never heard of the ornament being called anything else though.
asked one of the women i know from here, she says she knows that there is a word for the ornament in german and croatian, but in english the closest word she knows would be pendant.
is this what the question was about HJ ? id still call the whole fucking thing the keyring though fuck that saying " oh thats a nice pendant you have there on your keyring" aint nobody got time fo dat
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